2009 Sydney Forum

[Hausfrau28]

I want to know why you would decline the opportunity to educate yourself on something which is ever-evolving.

You are opposed to what you've been told, not what is fact, and therefore you've just proven my original point.

[Hausfrau28]

@Andy Fleming:

I'm glad you can grasp semantics.

Sure, there's heaps of literature out there which I'm familiar with, however telling me to go and read it is the equivalent of someone asking a rightie about their stance on something and the rightie telling them to 'just go read Mein Kampf'. Sure, it's down on paper (and one of the most boring books ever written) but I'm not looking for a verbatim answer to why you oppose 'fascism', ...

[AndyFleming]

@Hausfrau28 That's a rather disturbing analogy, one which presumably illuminates your political perspective. It is also, moreover, an inappropriate one. Be that as it may, there are other flaws in your argument, none of which have much to do with fascism as such. Thus, just as it's not necessary for me to attend the Labor or Liberal Party conferences in order to arrive at a reasonable understanding of either party's programs, policies or histories, neither is it necessary for me to attend the...

[AndyFleming]

Sydney Forum in order to understand Australia First, B&H or Volksfront (or a number of other fascist groupuscules and their ideologies). Secondly, if you have difficulty understanding why a person might oppose something, it would seem rather pointless then asking why they don't support a gathering in its cause. Finally, you've failed to point out how my understanding might be flawed, or how it may be distinguished from that great lump known as 'Teh Left'.

[Hausfrau28]

@AndyFleming

Whinging? I'm not the one with videos of innocent people using their right to free speech being insulted and barricaded out of a public venue by you and your friends.

I'm purely trying to ascertain why these protests continue, and why no left-wing group or individual can give a good reason (other than claiming to already know enough to make an informed decision) why they choose to protest instead of using the opportunity to listen and learn.

All your leaflets, websites and prote

[AndyFleming]

@Hausfrau28 First, there's only one video, and it largely consists of still photos of those addressing the Forum (detailing their organisational allegiances to various fascist groupuscules) and others of those attending the Petersham RSL. Secondly, I'm not sure what you mean by "these protests". Thirdly, leftist groups have published many statements on why they protest fascism and fascist assemblies. Finally, you should try to edit your commentary so that it ain't cut off mid-sentence as otherwi

[Hausfrau28]

@AndyFleming

'that' go to these things, not 'what' go to these things. Another shining example of University education.

It shocks and saddens me that you can claim to be an open-minded individual but refuse to learn about something that you don't like or agree with, but that you're more than happy to screech long-winded recycled propaganda about.

How can you form an educated opinion of something when you have absolutely no concept of what it is other than the biased information you've subjec

[AndyFleming]

@Hausfrau28 My use of the term 'what' in preference to 'that' is a stylistic tic I sometimes employ and I'm well aware of it being incorrect. Beyond this: you assume that in order to learn about the views of Australia First and allied groups I need to attend the Sydney Forum. This is simply untrue. Nor do I screech(?); rather, I ridicule. If you wish to debate some particular political position you're free to do so. You haven't and I can only assume that you enjoy having a whinge. *shrugs*

[Hausfrau28]

The left are openly invited every year. I don't understand why they refuse to attend and have a reasonable debate rather than just forming a smelly human barricade out the front.

2011 - take a seat, zip your trap and open your ears. You will come out at the end a more informed being. Whether you agree with the politics or not, you will at least then know more about your opposition.

[AndyFleming]

@Hausfrau28 I got my invite late. But I wouldn't go anyway: fascists are not my scene. Plus, I reckon I already know a bit about the wingnuts what go to these things.

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

Is antifa still being funded by the bnai brith?

[AndyFleming]

@ExposeZionistCrimes Yes. We are paid in yummy bagels. And cheesecake. Mmmmmm... cheesecake...

[lyfcky69]

i think people all know who the fascists really are.. Antifa are the real fascists..

Hail..

[AndyFleming]

@lyfcky69 Hail to you too.

[shockadelicaustralia]

Australia's second-largest annual gathering of right-wing crackpots? Which is the largest, I want a ticket!

Why do you blur out the faces of the antifa protesters? If you want anonymity, don't show up.

[AndyFleming]

The Inverell Forum silly!

As for blurring out faces, it's called etiquette. And I think if the folx in q were that concerned, yr right -- they wouldnae shown up.

Thanx for playing!

[shockadelicaustralia]

Etiquette lessons from the people blocking the doorway.

[AndyFleming]

Etiquette lessons from me. I can school you in lots of things -- if you behave yourself.

[shockadelicaustralia]

I would hope your school would have a serious truancy problem.

How about giving your antifa friends a few etiquette lessons. Telling people to kill themselves, calling them names, blocking the entrance. Your kind is in no position to lecture others on social niceties.

[AndyFleming]

Excellent suggestions. I shall give those who assembled outside the Petersham RSL a stern talking to; there is simply no excuse for calling fascists nasty names. As we both know, the Australian Army never stooped to such measures when it fought the Nazis and Fascists in WWII, preferring instead to simply kill their opposition, thus alleviating them of the necessity of killing themselves (as the howwible protesters supposedly suggested to the Sydney Forum attendees).

[shockadelicaustralia]

There are no doubt fascists among those in the nationalist scene, but not ALL people attending this particular event would be. Your people call everyone a "fascist", whether they are one or not.

A woman yelled, quote "Follow your leader and kill yourself, you Nazi", unquote.

Nothing "supposedly" about that.