Isai (Falcon) vs. Ken (Marth) Match 4

[mrgoodfight14]

can someone tell me how they do an aerial attack from the edge?

[metroid1117]

@mrgoodfight14 The common term is "edgehopping." To do it, you must let go of the edge (most people press "away" or "down" on the control stick), then jump and do any aerial attack you want.

[mrgoodfight14]

@metroid1117 thats not what i mean... i mean when your on the edge and you HOP ONTO THE STAGE straight into an aerial. do you know?

?

[metroid1117]

@mrgoodfight14 Yes, that's what you do. (1) Let go of the edge by pressing "back" or "down", (2) jump, (3) input what attack you want to do, and (4) drift towards the stage. 3 and 4 are interchangeable depending on when you want to do the attack (right as you get up, or when you're landing). The steps I gave above just didn't include the "drift towards the stage" part.

[mrgoodfight14]

@metroid1117 ok

[mrgoodfight14]

@metroid1117 thanks man i got it

[FreaqqShow]

watching this on my mobile phone, there are only two pixels... isay and ken

[DraMuhhh]

Cap Falcons: Isai, Silent Spectre, Darkrain, Hax, Scar, Tapion...best falcons i know if i missed any sorry other than that i miss isai fuck you for leaving seeing u do shit like this (to ken just makes it so much more thrilling lol) makes me jizz my pants O_O

[FishamanP]

OH MY GAWD!

KEN LOST AT SSBM!?!

I mean, Isai is awesome and all, and his picture is on the SSB box, but still... KEN LOST!?!

[mrgoodfight14]

when isai asked ken to show him his moves, he got what he asked for

[MaggotF0rLife]

@mrgoodfight14 But it wasn't enough.

[Chrisgoing]

or Captain Falcon just has awesome combos that are really hard to break if well done

[akaRavenwolf]

Guess Ken wasn't that good after all. I guess he cracks under pressure.

[joeyspeziale]

@akaRavenwolf i think you forget that isai is an elite player as well.

[akaRavenwolf]

@joeyspeziale Oh no! Isai is one of my favorite players! I am a HUGE falcon main. After SS Isai is right there on my list, haha

[ankarionxxy]

0:29 made me jizz in my pants :D

[mrdead53]

That was one hell of a comeback, ESPECIALLY since it was against Ken on Marth of all bloody opponents. Props Isai, props

[sivret20]

Ken lost?????!!!!!!!!

[sivret20]

0:30 WOW

[twinesper]

This set was when I got into melee. It was amazing beyond words when I saw it in 2005 and here in 2011 it's still some of the best shit to EVER!

Was this the last tourney Isai didn't sandbag in singles?

[AlquimistEd]

omg, for one second i tought ken was gonna win '-'

[snyperfan4live]

do they allways fight on the final destination?

[Tavaman3]

isai is a as good at melee as he is at 64 <3.

[Ediblemittens]

nothing is cheekier than a captain falcon taunt thrown in after a successful kill.

[cbern95]

EPIC CF WIN

[TheRandomSloth]

Why is Lady Gaga - Bad Romance a related video for this? O_o

[Spectruslol]

@TheRandomSloth because it isnt

[TheRandomSloth]

@Spectruslol It was the at the time i posted that comment. Lol

[DoGmAnGuY1758]

im more of a fan of SS, but i was happy to see both ken get beat and for isai to win

[revanskywalker]

my favorite match of all time - actually this made me want to play smash on a higher level lol.

[jihadsoup]

The guy playing Marth was a cast member on survivor awhile back.

[N00Bie92]

1:16 moves shown.

[CrossZiggy]

I need to buy melee again... after 3 years I forgot how cool it was, this is really fast gameplay! brawl is fun and all but melee looks like a huge game of skill o_o

last time I played melee I was 9, I am 14 now, so yeah >.>

[zevex747]

are these guys like world champions or something?

[metroid1117]

@zevex747 They're retired now, but they were widely recognized as some of the best players in the nation.

Isai is THE best player in the world at SSB64 though.

[gilamunja]

@metroid1117 was the brawl the end of them? I can imagine it being so. Melee was on another level, Brawl, although fun, was no where near as sharp

[metroid1117]

@gilamunja They retired even before Brawl came out, I believe. Ken briefly came out of retirement to play Brawl at Evo 2009 (?) and I heard Isai popped up at some Melee tournament in California, but I don't think they've really been active.

[ultimatehaxor123]

@metroid1117 ken was at evo 2k8 and took 2nd. isai showed up at some norcal tourney (i think it was combo food) but he is def not out of retirement

[metroid1117]

@ultimatehaxor123 Thanks for the clarification.

[matzoball101]

@gilamunja

yeah in some ways brawl kind of destroyed the series...

they should re release melee on wii or somethin or a newer console

[bigfootmaster1]

@zevex747 Ken was the best SSBM player until he retired to play Survivor. Isai left and became the best SSB player.

[zevex747]

@bigfootmaster1 - and I've gone on to be obsessed with watching SSB and SSBM videos. I know a lot about all the pros now, thanks for the info though!

[LaRiviera]

1:04 - 1:14 Moves were shown.

[zevex747]

@LaRiviera - yep moves were shown! that was an epic combo by ken

[MIguemex95]

I've seen PS3 vs Xbox360, Halo vs Gow, etc..

Ken vs Isai is still the best.. :)

[CMaGn3t]

How do you attack immediately after hanging on the ledge? like something at 0:30

[metroid1117]

@CMaGn3t What Ken did was edgehop DAir; he grabbed the edge, let go of it (either by pressing down or back on the control stick), and then jumped and did a down aerial. You can do other things besides a down aerial such as any other aerial, airdodging onto the stage, or just regrabbing the edge.

[CMaGn3t]

@metroid1117 Oh is that what he did? wow.. i cant even see the edgehop or the jump. All it looked like was him climbing up the ledge and then suddenly pulled out the DAir, lol. Thanks btw.

[metroid1117]

@CMaGn3t It's hard to see, but if you look really closely you can see a little blue ring appearing under Marth when he rises into the air; that blue ring appears whenever any character uses their double jump (except for Jiggs and Kirby, I think).

[SonicAdvDX]

FUCK YEAH ISAI!!!!!!

[kandayo123]

Matches between Ken and Isai > Anyone else

[Doomed100]

@kandayo123 What about Aniki and Ken?

[Decklann]

LOL he taunted then died seconds later.

[Maexoherus]

@Decklann at 1:08, Ken shows Isai his moves.

[Decklann]

@Maexoherus HYES!

[iChocolateAddict]

1:15 moves shown by ken xD

[shogundapker]

What a comeback...isai@!

[bigfatnewbpwner]

"show me your moves!"

then he really showed him lol

1:03

[passiveMenis]

Muhammad Ali level sandbagging god damn

[KingCaboose]

Isai wasn't just sandbagging. He was cementbagging.

[linkoninja]

Since Isai's time what new tech's have come out?

[Shock0055]

Even though these videos are from 2006, they are still good today to watch!

[fryafish]

goddamn he tapped that ass hard.

[Yoububehahaha]

in the end isai definetly earned that taunt

[plasticbudgie]

isai gone back to the daddy of smash SSB 64

:D and mango is no way the best in the world

[BucketoverHead]

if ken would have gotten the reverse up at 1:57 it would have won him the match... he almost did too bc you can hear the sound it makes

[MercuryClock]

Crazy fucking kill at 0:30.

[akc12]

Isai is too good. Then and now

[LSWLover10]

Probably Ken's greatest performance, too bad Isai won.

[TheGosu]

If you think is his greatest performance then you've only watched ONE of ken's many amazing bouts.

Watch ken vs chillindude (beasting)

[MasqueradeNL]

Nice match

i really thought that Marth would win

Marth has 2 lives left and cpt Falcon 1 and he still won

[djtiii]

@MasqueradeNL Personally i thought isai was always better than ken. isai just sandbagged to no end since he never really cared about melee.

[Diontjuhz]

Sick match

[TampaSmash]

the thing that made isai different from other falcons is he dont show boat and jus goes for the kill..yea he could have "scared combo" him but the risk is greater...jus cuz u see it in a combo video dont mean he lands it all the time..he misses more than he lands the actual combo...jus sayin

[RadicallyDreaming]

The funny thing is that Isai lost his second stock by doing exactly what you said he doesn't do.

[KH0N]

would have been fuckin epic if he sacred comboed ken at the end.....he had it set up to!

[Patwic]

good match isai wooped his ass last stock though

[bloteshame]

four years later, this video is still one of the best matches i've ever seen.

[SuperSmasherJJE]

Wow, All of Ken's kills were epic. And then Isai just had another epic comeback. Amazing duel.

[SasukeItachixX]

can you say epic comeback by isai?

[kiragumanyara]

isai....fuckin nasty

[Kujafalsegod]

arround 0:30... ken fucking unbelievable

[x4xTheFourthx4x]

0:29 O.O

[IDIEININIIS]

Very nice match.

[SwordSaint892]

The beautiful recovery at 0:29 ~ is on so many combo videos and stuff, cool to see the actual full game.

[IHatePeopleDontTalk]

i still think bombsoldier is a better player than isai

[WojIsWin]

i wouldnt say better, just different

[Critica1Acclaim]

1:09-1:17 RAPE by ken

[mahoose6]

ISAIIIIIIIII

[arkalauz]

hey man do you know how can I contact them?

[metroid1117]

Sorry, but I think they've pretty much retired from Smash by now. Right now, the most dominant players are Mew2King (East Coast, but I heard he's moving to Midwest) and Mango (California, recognized by most people to be THE best in the world right now). You can try contacting them through Smashboards; they both have accounts there.

[abcd1990abcd1990]

Isai and Ken will be the best forever :p

[TheLuisander94]

@metroid1117 jo forget armada the best peach player of the world

[icyrvnd]

telepathy, i hear it works

[arkalauz]

where are they from?

[metroid1117]

They're both from California, but I forgot where specifically (Socal or Norcal).

[nyahnyah12]

isai is norcal, ken is socal

[Darksama77]

ken is socal

[ruhtraeel]

@metroid1117

Isai is from Norcal. No idea where Ken is from.

[secretagentarkane]

my 2 favorite smashers ken and isai i like ken marth and absolutely LOVE isai falcon

[KingCaboose]

Ken couldn't break Isai's stride.

[NirvanaClockwork]

isai seems to do better whenever he's playing catchup. <3 isai

[commanderkool]

clutch finish

[smashsylar11]

one of the most entertaining matches of all time

[zacarlson]

this match has so many NOUs lol

[Oleozen]

great match

[vBJazzPFC]

I am still waiting for one where Isai loses :P

[crewsader]

one of the best matches ever

[shibbyness]

brawl sucks.

[Auddy7]

1:05 Ken dies with 69%, automatic win

[gali32731]

0:31 is so awesome...

[Nyoronoru]

0:31, that was nuts.

[smashbrosmaniac]

the thing that amazes me the most about this video is taht it's 3 years old. imagine if these players didn't quit melee...

[Andrax807]

ken and isai play sooo godly like

and i agree with azkadaz

[kratorions]

damn...never i will be good enoug to beat this i am not quick with my hand and finger...

[ACher91]

0:24 - 0:31 crazy shit O_o

[Azkadaz]

Isai is God

[icewaterdragon01]

Great job Isaiah.

[l46kok]

keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen combo~

[metroid1117]

Please do not post comments like this on my videos.

[pbnj2323]

the only difference beyween new metagame and old is better edge guarding now thats it

[Zipperz]

I miss the old metagame for smash :[

[BandofLegend]

Ken is such a menace.

[MartyPotatoes]

Man Isai/Ken matches are always great to watch

[supahsmashbro]

never count Isai out, he has the greatest comeback skills eva.

[MoogledKupo]

ISAIUHHHHHHHHH

[bochojr21]

according to M2K, Falcon has a 60-40 Advantage over Marth

[smashbrosmaniac]

if isai wasnt a bitch in real life then he would be my favorite smasher

[Zanmato688]

really he's a bich? how so?

[YaLoonSmells]

go to his channel

[Zanmato688]

i dont know his channel though

[ConveX91]

Yeah.. What is Isai's channel? =/

[blackfox51]

mevsec

look it up, his channel is full of original super smash bros rapeage haha

[Bateroxcore]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FALCON!!!!! x3

[sinsareneverforgiven]

Geez, I expected Ken to win. Fucking Isai is too damn good for this world.

[BlueViolin58]

Isai's too good! =]

[Yoububehahaha]

ken made isai second stock pay for that taunt

[danielreece2]

i love capt falcon...

but that matchup is unbelievably in marths favor simply due to the super easy gimps...

"not saying Ken is bad at all" just saying i like to see captain falcon pwn it up. :P

[Meneks]

LOL marth is NOT unbelievably in marths favor...

If anything this is an even match up..

Just because ken is the better player and beat isai does NOT mean marth is better in this match up...see Pc(falcon) vs m2k(marth) on pokemon stadium? PLUS these matches are incredibly old so the meta game has increased indefinately

[ccool2ax]

Ken didn't beat Isai in this match?

Falcon v Marth is interesting, mostly because Marth outranges Falcon, which gives him difficulty. However, Marth only has average recovery and isn't terribly difficult to gimp. It's a slight advantage to Marth IMO>

[Meneks]

Average recovery?

Marth is pretty significant when it comes to recover simply because of the fact that the recovery mindgames alone are pretty insane...

Yes mrth does outrange so i guess you can say that marth has a slight upperhand..

but slightly...

So its pretty much still an even matchup

[YaLoonSmells]

Ken could literally Short Hop Double Fair forever and leave basically no opening. Marth has more range, and Falcon lacks projectiles.

Falcon can ONLY wait for Marth to mess up.

The reason the Pokemon stadium match is different is because of Platform's / Non-Flat stage.

[Meneks]

LOL...man short hop double fair is SOOOO easy to get through...I could easy CC it shield it or anything else... double fairing sucks as an approach and it is easy to get through...

Falcon does NOT need to wait for marth to mess up..grabs are a great priority and can rape marths...

The match up falcon vs marth is in fact a pretty even match up

[YaLoonSmells]

Im not saying SHDF as an approach, I mean he can camp back and do it.

Yeah, CC a Double Fair, and then just get hit by another Fair over and over and either have your dmaage rack up, your sheild break, or your already set up into a combo.

[linksoer]

Damm!! Marth got Falcon Owned on that last stock!

[mariskaids]

ken was amazingly fast , but when isai gots u , u r fucked up !great battle

[xxHolyxxWolfsbanexx]

If you look at their combos, Ken and Isai BOTH should be arrested for manslaughter.

[Lazymewe]

wow ken is a fucking beast

[TastedDuckling]

jesus props to both of them, ken did some pretty good raping himself...but isai wow lol

[nikc101]

awesome at :20- :35

[AOROKKIN]

seriously.

[KingOfKatamari]

Isai is just TOO GOOD.

[hxceer2]

isai's 2nd stock was just. wow...

[ballsdeep662]

EPIC

[Zerokaiser00]

Captain Falcon=best CQC fighter in smash!

[tarzaniac9]

Actually, the exact opposite is true.

[Hamsterlord106]

Ouch, that second stock was pretty nice.

[qwertyasdghpp]

Ken should really sweetspot the ledge that Up-B Lag screwed him over.

[metroid1117]

He got scared that he would get edgehogged, so he went for the stage :(.

[Maj0ra]

Is sweetspot when you do your UP-B perfectly to grab the edge?

[DoctaMalik]

yes. That way you avoid getting hit from the most common ledge guarding techniques.

[Atma01]

That was the most epic fight I have witnessed yet! Not only did Ken hold the lead but Isai made such a terrific comeback.

[ValtteriVIP]

if u want to see comeback check ek vs nihonjin last match in winners final

[Atma01]

DUDE!! Best comeback in smash history!

[SKStylez]

i just watched it yea amazing! But isai has done mannny comebacks, and its always vs people that seem to gimp him and his falcon

[Zer0player]

the fact is ssb suck and the grab shit on so on. brawl isnt so skilled a bad player can beat good player easier. and melee that was the only smash titel for skilled players. But ´my fave game is brawl cause you have some good techniques with several charackters like melee.

[SKStylez]

gg comeback. looked like a really old match in their playstyle tho

[metroid1117]

Yup; this was from 2005.

[lovingmonkay]

god damn isai could quit for 12 years and i could nonstop play and learn against the best of the best and i still could not manage a cf half as good as his.

[clayvision]

wow what a comeback

[blackjo007]

1:20-1:24 fking nie mindgame

[ganonspike]

wow all the kills were really nice on this match

[flexdex4ever]

long live melee!

[mclace]

Great match all kills were epic i know that during isais first kill when marth got daired ken was like no no no! then the knee hit LMFAO

[12ohan]

2 kills in 30 seconds, wow.