Well, to the people saying that I'm wrong and HIV is not the cause of AIDS, I have science and medicine on my side, so...sorry, but I call science logic before I'd call that theory logic!
'conspiracey theory assholes sitting in your house with a tin foil hat on thinking the gov. is watching ya through their sattelites' , 'no lodgic that supports your claim' <-- no umerican's viewpoint is supposed to be lodical or coherent, whut state u livin' in ? and yes, these people of representative for 99% of the intelect in umerica... :)
I dunno who in their right mind would say HIV doesn't exist.....and it's already been proven to be the cause of AIDS.....but have you ever heard of something called the silver treatment? What do you know about that?
You're right in calling out LogicJunkie for making a poor video. For somebody with the word "logic" in his name, one would think he would actually cite an argument.
Regardless, he is right. The HIV/AIDS hypothesis is a hoax, and you should read up on it if they have you on the meds.
Did you even watch the video in the description ? there is alot of evidence , you just got hurt by what he said and now swearing and carrying on. try watching my docamentry i calmly exspoze alot , With ALot of facts and proof. In all of history there has bin conspiracy so why cant there be now?
@ThomasDeanNordlum And I screen my comments because some of the biggest losers in the world troll youtube looking to post nonsense that has nothing to do with the video's they're posting about. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would ya? Lol.
@Martyr2theCause because i haven't posted any videos? I've tried a few times, but I am not the best speaker, I am a better writer. Most topics I have been inspired to speak about have been done over already and I have had nothing new to add besides my personal reaction, which is all your video here seems to be. I know it's a rather shocking thing to suggest that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, but have you checked out the other side of the mainstream argument?
saying HIV does not cause AIDS doesn't mean that one is going to allow someone else to share needles with them, be extremely promiscuous, nor not take those who are séropositif seriously. My tendancy is to believe that HIV does not cause AIDS, but I still would not go out and not wear a condom. I don't like your comments about him not having a viral degree. Do you have one? Why should anyone believe your opposite argument?.
@ThomasDeanNordlum Ummmm, idk what a viral degree is? I never said anything about him not having a viral degree. But if you're asking me if I have a college degree, yes I do, I have several of them actually. I have an associates degree in psychology, I have a second associates degree in Paralegal studies, I have a bachelors degree in legal studies with a focus on Criminal law & Civil rights, and I am now in graduate school getting my legal degree.
@Martyr2theCause I actually think degrees are generally worthless, I was merely showing you that when you say he has no viral research degree (this is what you said) then he may have some credibility. One can say the same thing the other way around. You ought to read The Medical Mafia by Ghislaine Lanctôt (québec author/former physician). She has some interesting things to say about vaccines, HIV and Cancer. And she's not the only one.
@ThomasDeanNordlum Well we're all entitled to our opinions. I'd definitely say that degree's are not worthless. Before I got my degree I was making 30k a year and now that I'm in grad school, and plan on going to post-grad, my income is 6 figures a year. But even w/o the income increase, knowlege is never useless. Im assuming you never went to college, and that's why you downplay education, because you don't have any.
google 'WHOSE ANTIBODIES ARE THEY ANYWAY? Factors Known to Cause False Positive HIV Antibody Test Results By Christine Johnson Continuum Sept./Oct. 1996' Also you may want to know that in the US most people who are HIV positive die of organ failure not any immune diseases because the drugs are so toxic, also consider some time to research on the CDC website a condotion known as IRIS or IRS. The experiment you have designed has already been conducted many times. watch HOUSE OF NUMBERS 2010
Agree! i am willing to listen to those that think it is a hoax, so I am anopen person, but i still believe in HIV, i think I would be stupid not too. Maybe the tests for hIV are silly but the virus exists. See this...... The Real Heroes of AIDS (Part 1) it might help you. Plus Olive leaf extract book
There is no conclusive emperical evidence to support the theory that hiv gives you aids. The whole reasoning about this is that HIV is just a THEORY, until it is proven beyond any doubt. In science you are normally allowed to debate, publish papers etc. no one is allowed to do this without losing funding . It is not aids denialism or conspiracy theories, it is scientific protocol. , it is just opening the doors to allow unbaised debate in a problem that is affecting millions of people.
great video response , such a fucking retard message here ... whats him gonna say next , lets all bareback .... such a dangerous ignorant in fact , hiv is not a hoax ....
Well I'm HIV positive. I have NOT been on meds and I have control of my health. I have done my home work and I have put my body to the test. Boy you look like shit! Keep taking your meds and you're not going to be around for too long. And for the record I have a degree and I have worked in clinical research. The FDA and Pharmaceutical companies are NOT interested in cures. They're interested in STABILIZING the condition so you can pay 1000 dollars a month for meds. u should smart up too!
@amorhombre I agree about STABILIZING conditions. The medical industry knows they will make more money prescribing drugs for different things for people than they will curing things. Its like the difference between purchasing a vehicle outright and getting a 5 year car loan. Check my vids on the medical industry
lol i loved your rant, you are sooo right, and this guy is just ignorant. he needed to be burned, thanks for doing so! ps he probably is living in his mamma's basement in spiderman jammies on his computer spewing garbage, how can HIV be a hoax? its real, he needs to ask anyone who's going through the pain of it and struggling to survive.
I can tell you that my lab results have been constant for almost two years now: CD4 at around 500, and vl of between 14k and 25k. My weight is now back to pre 2006 with a bit of a gut at 158. This, with zero pharma meds. My doctor, case mgr., parents, friends all disagreed with me because it wasn’t what the ‘specialists’ recommend. I’ll end with this. The guy who gave me HIV is one of the four people I knew in the last year who died, all on meds.
@maxwell71 Everybodies different. All I know is my numbers were not so miraculous w/o meds, and off of them, I was dying a slow and incredibly painful death. So as I've said countless times, maybe the meds will kill me, maybe the disease will, or maybe I'll step off a curb tomorrow & get hit by a bus. We all do what we've gotta do to stay alive, and the meds are what's keeping me alive now.
I like many of LogicJunkie's videos, but this one threw my off-guard. HIV does exist. However, I do believe that treatment costs are gouged to make extreme profits.
@kramnrublaw Oh yeah, they definitely are. My 2 medications total over 78 thousand dollars a year, and that is just for the drugs. That doesn't include my doctors appointments, hospitalization, lab costs, etc. HIV/AIDS is big business, thats 4 sure!!
Mike I don't think Psychology or Psycho analyzing anyone is the correct response either. Your response is a fear based response out of anger. People who bring up conspiracy theories are doing so because they recognize them.(reverse psychology) Graves and Horowitz have come forth with a "flow chart" for the conspiracy that "HIV" was created in the lab however they also fail to recognize that no one has ever privided defintiive proof that anyone is "infected" hence the dubious "HIV" antibody test.
@c64c64c64 Yeah, his bullshit really rubbed me the wrong way, especially considering all of the time and work that I put into volunteering and trying to help people recover psychologically from a major blow. For somebody to post some nonsense on youtube saying that the disease doesn't exist and just ramble on with a bunch of rederick pisses me off!
i believe i understand your anxiety over someone saying hiv is a hoax but you must admit there are more questions than answers. for example, how is an hiv virus different from hundreds and even thousands of other viruses some of them very active and some of them just float around doing nothing consequential? of course this subject matter is fraught with emotion so i say it's better to be humble and ask or keep an open mind. perhaps you can have a dialog with logicjunkie if you're patient.
@carehappens Oh Ill b the 1st 2 admit theres more ?s than answers. However just denying the existance of the virus altogether doesn't make sense. I believe more that HIV was manufactured by the government, and thats the reason for all of the secrecy regarding the subject. But like i said, the theory that the virus is a hoax altogether is offensive to people who have gone through hell & suffered so others dont. It mocks all the hard work Ive accomplished in my life.
@Martyr2theCause i think logicjunkie means when he says hiv is a hoax is that it's not the "hiv" itself that is in question but the context in which "hiv" exists, but sadly the orthodox view of what hiv/aids "is" there is no debate in and of itself makes one question the authority by which this special disease is managed. Interestingly last year I posed to logicjunkie would he every knowingly have sex with an hiv poz person and he said he hadn't thought about it. i should bring it up again.
@carehappens Well most of my criticism comes from the fact that he didn't make 1 logical argument supporting his position, or even make his position clear to his followers. He just spouted off a string of common conspiracy theory jargon that really doesn't mean anything. Obviously theres something shady about the whole HIV/AIDS pandemic.
@carehappens By saying this without proof or even logical reasoning, its like he's spitting in my face. I've volunteered thousands of hours of my time and busted my ass the last few years to make sure that kids don't end up like me. What he's doing is justifying to them the thought "well I love this person & I trust them, & if HIV doesn't really exist, then I dont have anything to worry about" It makes me sick...
@carehappens Ok, and that means what? I'm a published author and I have 4 COMPLETED degrees, I actually graduated. So what does him being "former" pre-med have to do with anything. Nursing students are considered pre-med. If he's so convinced and has all of this evidence, cite it, don't just spout off a bunch of rederick and propaganda to make your point, because it makes you look like a jackass. I have proof that I have HIV running through my veins, and I can provide it, he cant...
the documented evidence of gallo's research fraud is at fearoftheinvisible dwt kom - the Freedom of Information Act required their release after 25 years - the politicians made them classified and that is why nobody saw them or disclosed them without being put in prison during that time - donald rumsfeld was chairman of top selling hiv drug company gilead sciences - the 2 protein hiv test is cross-reactive with many other conditions - people test hiv positive for many reasons - you will be okay
Well, to the people saying that I'm wrong and HIV is not the cause of AIDS, I have science and medicine on my side, so...sorry, but I call science logic before I'd call that theory logic!
Martyr2theCause 1 week ago
'conspiracey theory assholes sitting in your house with a tin foil hat on thinking the gov. is watching ya through their sattelites' , 'no lodgic that supports your claim' <-- no umerican's viewpoint is supposed to be lodical or coherent, whut state u livin' in ? and yes, these people of representative for 99% of the intelect in umerica... :)
coolstuff2004ad 1 week ago
I dunno who in their right mind would say HIV doesn't exist.....and it's already been proven to be the cause of AIDS.....but have you ever heard of something called the silver treatment? What do you know about that?
vexion15 4 months ago
people think hiv is a scam this is news to me
thull21 5 months ago
You're right in calling out LogicJunkie for making a poor video. For somebody with the word "logic" in his name, one would think he would actually cite an argument.
Regardless, he is right. The HIV/AIDS hypothesis is a hoax, and you should read up on it if they have you on the meds.
Read:
HIV, AIDS, and Gallo's Egg
and the works of Dr. Peter Duesburg
Emvaz22 8 months ago
Did you even watch the video in the description ? there is alot of evidence , you just got hurt by what he said and now swearing and carrying on. try watching my docamentry i calmly exspoze alot , With ALot of facts and proof. In all of history there has bin conspiracy so why cant there be now?
specialchannel 1 year ago
you screen your comments???? i take you even less seriously.
ThomasDeanNordlum 1 year ago
@ThomasDeanNordlum I'll loose sleep over that.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@ThomasDeanNordlum And I screen my comments because some of the biggest losers in the world troll youtube looking to post nonsense that has nothing to do with the video's they're posting about. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would ya? Lol.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@Martyr2theCause because i haven't posted any videos? I've tried a few times, but I am not the best speaker, I am a better writer. Most topics I have been inspired to speak about have been done over already and I have had nothing new to add besides my personal reaction, which is all your video here seems to be. I know it's a rather shocking thing to suggest that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, but have you checked out the other side of the mainstream argument?
ThomasDeanNordlum 1 year ago
saying HIV does not cause AIDS doesn't mean that one is going to allow someone else to share needles with them, be extremely promiscuous, nor not take those who are séropositif seriously. My tendancy is to believe that HIV does not cause AIDS, but I still would not go out and not wear a condom. I don't like your comments about him not having a viral degree. Do you have one? Why should anyone believe your opposite argument?.
ThomasDeanNordlum 1 year ago
@ThomasDeanNordlum Ummmm, idk what a viral degree is? I never said anything about him not having a viral degree. But if you're asking me if I have a college degree, yes I do, I have several of them actually. I have an associates degree in psychology, I have a second associates degree in Paralegal studies, I have a bachelors degree in legal studies with a focus on Criminal law & Civil rights, and I am now in graduate school getting my legal degree.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@Martyr2theCause I actually think degrees are generally worthless, I was merely showing you that when you say he has no viral research degree (this is what you said) then he may have some credibility. One can say the same thing the other way around. You ought to read The Medical Mafia by Ghislaine Lanctôt (québec author/former physician). She has some interesting things to say about vaccines, HIV and Cancer. And she's not the only one.
ThomasDeanNordlum 1 year ago
@ThomasDeanNordlum Well we're all entitled to our opinions. I'd definitely say that degree's are not worthless. Before I got my degree I was making 30k a year and now that I'm in grad school, and plan on going to post-grad, my income is 6 figures a year. But even w/o the income increase, knowlege is never useless. Im assuming you never went to college, and that's why you downplay education, because you don't have any.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
google 'WHOSE ANTIBODIES ARE THEY ANYWAY? Factors Known to Cause False Positive HIV Antibody Test Results By Christine Johnson Continuum Sept./Oct. 1996' Also you may want to know that in the US most people who are HIV positive die of organ failure not any immune diseases because the drugs are so toxic, also consider some time to research on the CDC website a condotion known as IRIS or IRS. The experiment you have designed has already been conducted many times. watch HOUSE OF NUMBERS 2010
exclamation3mark 1 year ago
Agree! i am willing to listen to those that think it is a hoax, so I am anopen person, but i still believe in HIV, i think I would be stupid not too. Maybe the tests for hIV are silly but the virus exists. See this...... The Real Heroes of AIDS (Part 1) it might help you. Plus Olive leaf extract book
Catherine8raw 1 year ago
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akki2kats 1 year ago
There is no conclusive emperical evidence to support the theory that hiv gives you aids. The whole reasoning about this is that HIV is just a THEORY, until it is proven beyond any doubt. In science you are normally allowed to debate, publish papers etc. no one is allowed to do this without losing funding . It is not aids denialism or conspiracy theories, it is scientific protocol. , it is just opening the doors to allow unbaised debate in a problem that is affecting millions of people.
simwatts 1 year ago
great video response , such a fucking retard message here ... whats him gonna say next , lets all bareback .... such a dangerous ignorant in fact , hiv is not a hoax ....
mameloche 1 year ago
Well I'm HIV positive. I have NOT been on meds and I have control of my health. I have done my home work and I have put my body to the test. Boy you look like shit! Keep taking your meds and you're not going to be around for too long. And for the record I have a degree and I have worked in clinical research. The FDA and Pharmaceutical companies are NOT interested in cures. They're interested in STABILIZING the condition so you can pay 1000 dollars a month for meds. u should smart up too!
amorhombre 1 year ago
@amorhombre Lol I don't look like shit in this video because of meds, I look like shit in this video because I had just woke up and rolled outta bed.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@amorhombre I agree about STABILIZING conditions. The medical industry knows they will make more money prescribing drugs for different things for people than they will curing things. Its like the difference between purchasing a vehicle outright and getting a 5 year car loan. Check my vids on the medical industry
milkskitmaker 8 months ago
lol i loved your rant, you are sooo right, and this guy is just ignorant. he needed to be burned, thanks for doing so! ps he probably is living in his mamma's basement in spiderman jammies on his computer spewing garbage, how can HIV be a hoax? its real, he needs to ask anyone who's going through the pain of it and struggling to survive.
DivaLatinaANNI 1 year ago
@DivaLatinaANNI Lol yeah I know. I never hear any logical argument from these nut jobs, I just hear a bunch of nonsense and bullshit from them.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
I can tell you that my lab results have been constant for almost two years now: CD4 at around 500, and vl of between 14k and 25k. My weight is now back to pre 2006 with a bit of a gut at 158. This, with zero pharma meds. My doctor, case mgr., parents, friends all disagreed with me because it wasn’t what the ‘specialists’ recommend. I’ll end with this. The guy who gave me HIV is one of the four people I knew in the last year who died, all on meds.
maxwell71 1 year ago
@maxwell71 Everybodies different. All I know is my numbers were not so miraculous w/o meds, and off of them, I was dying a slow and incredibly painful death. So as I've said countless times, maybe the meds will kill me, maybe the disease will, or maybe I'll step off a curb tomorrow & get hit by a bus. We all do what we've gotta do to stay alive, and the meds are what's keeping me alive now.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
tick tock, tick tock, martyred!
penumbrosity 1 year ago
I like many of LogicJunkie's videos, but this one threw my off-guard. HIV does exist. However, I do believe that treatment costs are gouged to make extreme profits.
kramnrublaw 1 year ago
@kramnrublaw Oh yeah, they definitely are. My 2 medications total over 78 thousand dollars a year, and that is just for the drugs. That doesn't include my doctors appointments, hospitalization, lab costs, etc. HIV/AIDS is big business, thats 4 sure!!
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
Mike I don't think Psychology or Psycho analyzing anyone is the correct response either. Your response is a fear based response out of anger. People who bring up conspiracy theories are doing so because they recognize them.(reverse psychology) Graves and Horowitz have come forth with a "flow chart" for the conspiracy that "HIV" was created in the lab however they also fail to recognize that no one has ever privided defintiive proof that anyone is "infected" hence the dubious "HIV" antibody test.
HIVVideos 1 year ago
wow you really don't like that guy lol
c64c64c64 1 year ago
@c64c64c64 Yeah, his bullshit really rubbed me the wrong way, especially considering all of the time and work that I put into volunteering and trying to help people recover psychologically from a major blow. For somebody to post some nonsense on youtube saying that the disease doesn't exist and just ramble on with a bunch of rederick pisses me off!
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
i believe i understand your anxiety over someone saying hiv is a hoax but you must admit there are more questions than answers. for example, how is an hiv virus different from hundreds and even thousands of other viruses some of them very active and some of them just float around doing nothing consequential? of course this subject matter is fraught with emotion so i say it's better to be humble and ask or keep an open mind. perhaps you can have a dialog with logicjunkie if you're patient.
carehappens 1 year ago
@carehappens Oh Ill b the 1st 2 admit theres more ?s than answers. However just denying the existance of the virus altogether doesn't make sense. I believe more that HIV was manufactured by the government, and thats the reason for all of the secrecy regarding the subject. But like i said, the theory that the virus is a hoax altogether is offensive to people who have gone through hell & suffered so others dont. It mocks all the hard work Ive accomplished in my life.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@Martyr2theCause i think logicjunkie means when he says hiv is a hoax is that it's not the "hiv" itself that is in question but the context in which "hiv" exists, but sadly the orthodox view of what hiv/aids "is" there is no debate in and of itself makes one question the authority by which this special disease is managed. Interestingly last year I posed to logicjunkie would he every knowingly have sex with an hiv poz person and he said he hadn't thought about it. i should bring it up again.
carehappens 1 year ago
@carehappens Well most of my criticism comes from the fact that he didn't make 1 logical argument supporting his position, or even make his position clear to his followers. He just spouted off a string of common conspiracy theory jargon that really doesn't mean anything. Obviously theres something shady about the whole HIV/AIDS pandemic.
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@carehappens By saying this without proof or even logical reasoning, its like he's spitting in my face. I've volunteered thousands of hours of my time and busted my ass the last few years to make sure that kids don't end up like me. What he's doing is justifying to them the thought "well I love this person & I trust them, & if HIV doesn't really exist, then I dont have anything to worry about" It makes me sick...
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
they guy you are speaking of is a published author and I believe a former pre-med student.
carehappens 1 year ago
@carehappens Ok, and that means what? I'm a published author and I have 4 COMPLETED degrees, I actually graduated. So what does him being "former" pre-med have to do with anything. Nursing students are considered pre-med. If he's so convinced and has all of this evidence, cite it, don't just spout off a bunch of rederick and propaganda to make your point, because it makes you look like a jackass. I have proof that I have HIV running through my veins, and I can provide it, he cant...
Martyr2theCause 1 year ago
@Martyr2theCause I was just responding to the question asked in the video if logicjunkie did anything.
carehappens 1 year ago
the documented evidence of gallo's research fraud is at fearoftheinvisible dwt kom - the Freedom of Information Act required their release after 25 years - the politicians made them classified and that is why nobody saw them or disclosed them without being put in prison during that time - donald rumsfeld was chairman of top selling hiv drug company gilead sciences - the 2 protein hiv test is cross-reactive with many other conditions - people test hiv positive for many reasons - you will be okay
hivquestions 1 year ago