@freddodoppio Search for "faroe islands whaling". Hundreds of pilot whales are brutally killed and mutilated FOR SPORT each summer. Don't be surprised that whaling doesn't only happens in Japan. Inhumane treatment of animals happens worldwide. To confine your hate to only Japan is plain ignorance.
eating whale may be it's your culture but it's so wrong you have to be understand and walk with environment so please Japanese stop your stupid mentality which has no end, but time will come when you feel guilty,
Research whaling is important. Growing population, abnormal weather and diastrophism may cause food shortage in the future. It is not wise to depend only on livestock industry or farming. Whale meat may be important food. Further, if there is no whaling, whales may grow too large and they may eat too much fish which is also important food.
I am a Japanese. Americans and Europeans used to kill thousands of whales every year to produce oil for industry. Remenber "Moby Dick". The fact that some species of whales have gone exctinct and some are endangered now is due to their mass killing in the 19th century. Japan has been hunting a limited number of them, and has not influenced their population. Do not accuse somebody for what you have done.
@pass516 Nobody is denying the terrible deeds of the past and this is the reason I oppose ALL whaling.Its childish to say "oh you use to do it,so its ok for us to do it now". Grow up FFS!!! Japan is as much to blame as anyone else for the damage done since they have been commercially whaling since 1900 so dont play the holier than thou role.Oh and the real damage to whale numbers was during the 1900's not the 19th century lol
@OzisGodscountry I do not agree with you at all. Anti whalers are distorting the fact and making false accusatiions. Most of the species extinct now have been so since the 19th century. See IWC website. And Japan is hunting limited numbers, and no specie has gone extinct by Japanese whaling. And if you know you have exterminsted all the species that are extinct now, you have no right to accuse somebody by far much less greedy than you.
@pass516 More whales were killed during the 1900's than in the 19th century and Japan was involved in commercial whaling so how can you say "no specie has gone extinct by Japanese whaling".Did Japan not have to move whaling operations out of Japanese waters due to excessive harvesting of Sei Whales?
"By far the greatest number of whales have been killed this century, following the development of "factory" ships, which allowed fleets to hunt whales for months at a time, killing and processing them at sea."
Japan doesnt want to stay at the quota it has now.They want to kill many many more each year.They have to increase the quota to make it profitable to the whaling companies.As well as hunt the larger species like Fin and Humpbacks
@OzisGodscountry The website you introduced tells us it is a stupid website , or a biased. Industrial whaing was started in the 16th century by the Western countries and later USA joined. They hunted whales in the Arctic ocean, the Atantic ocean,the Pacific ocean and exterminated some of them. The number of whaing fleets amounted to over 700 ,and hunted more than 10000 whales every year , to get oil for industry. Japan has been haunting much less. Thier extinction is due to Westerners.
@OzisGodscountry It's just that your argument is based on something they're not doing, not facts. Then you reference that to say it should be banned "completely" which doesn't make any sense.
@misterhed The facts are that,for one thing, Japan is as much to blame for the damage done to whale numbers as any other nation.Japans waters were once abundant with various species of whales untill these numbers were devastated to the point whaling ships began travelling further south.
Another fact is that commercial whaling will NEVER be kept any sort of "acceptable quota".To hunt only Minkes as some idiots suggest Japan wants,the numbers would have to be in the tens of thousands
@misterhed Please show proof that they hunt 1000 a year Minkes a year.But thank you for bringing up this point because it proves whaling nations want to hunt the larger species not Minkes as Iceland hunt Fin now and now the Fin Whales are back on the Endangered list.
@OzisGodscountry The current situation is not bad enough for you and would be useless to your argument, so you have to continuously reference your projection of what they "want". An activist that "creates" something to complain about.
@misterhed Does Japan want to continue to kill only the current quotas?Do they want and have expressed the desire to increase the quota and to resume commercial whaling? By the way the current situation IS bad enough for me.I would prefer to see all whaling stopped.But the first step is to stop any further expansion of the quotas or the whaling industry,which is Japan and other whaling nations ultimate goal is it not?
@OzisGodscountry Your argument should be "any future expansion of whaling to ridiculous levels should be banned" not "all whaling should be banned, as there will never be an acceptable quota" while ignoring the current quotas lol.
@misterhed Oh so you want to tell me what to say now? I live in Australia where free speech exists I believe.
If you actually read what I said properly you will see I was refering to commercial whaling (which remember Japan isnt doing its "scientific research" lol) and if its made legal in reference to an acceptable quota.Iceland has already helped put a species back on the endangered list in the last 10 years and further proof of my original statement
@OzisGodscountry I wasn't telling you what to say, I was just saying that your statements didn't logically lead to "all whaling should be banned" only that they shouldn't expand it to unsustainable levels..
I meant Norway's quota was 1000 minke whales sorry, i'm not sure about iceland.
@misterhed Quote "Your argument should be "any future expansion of whaling to ridiculous levels should be banned"" is this not telling what to say?So to make sure you understand my position 100% here it is.My ideal outcome would be the banning of ALL whaling,whether for profit,cultural reasons, or scientific reasearch (chuckle under my breath). I have also said the reasons I believe commercial whaling should never be allowed.Whats so hard to understand?
@OzisGodscountry Search Whaling in Norway on wikipedia and it'll show the quotas. Some years they only caught 300-500 minke. Proves that whalers don't need to hunt 10,000 to be profitable like you said. Besides don't you think whalers know in this day and age that if they make the whales go extinct that it would be BAD for their industry?
@misterhed How does that prove anything except you proving you are fabricating stories that they are CATCHING 1000 Minkes a year. As I have asked repeatedly -Do you think whaling nations want to keep the quota where it is?At the moment trade of whale meat between nations is banned but Japan Norway are fighting to allow trade which would encourage and even assist the sale of "black market" meat which in turn would lead to huge numbers or unreported whales being killed and sold.
@OzisGodscountry Their quota since 2006 has been 1052 minke, I'm not fabricating anything.. Personally, I don't give a shit if they keep it as it is or increase it as long as it's sustainable. But anyway, if no one wants to buy the meat, why would it be MORE profitable if they increased the quota? It would just waste more fuel and resources..
@misterhed You said "they hunt 1000 minke per year" which is a lie. The QUOTA is 1000 (or so). Whale meat is more popular in Japan (and Korea) than Norway (where I said its hard to sell the meat they catch hence why they want the ban on trade to Japan lifted.You really should read a bit slower to understand what people say.
@misterhed Whaling in Norway is far from profitable with boats having to travel further as stocks diminish locally (hmmmm wonder why??). All whalers have to also catch fish outside of the season.So as you can see its far from profitable even if they caught the full quota (which of course they couldnt because the numbers are diminishing).Norway cant even give the meat away in Norway,very few people eat it and many oppose whaling as I do.
@OzisGodscountry Your position is "all whaling should be banned" even if it is at a sustainable level. So that's just your opinion and no one should take it seriously. You might as well say "all meat eating should be banned."
@misterhed BIIIIGGG difference when the cattle is bred for that exact purpose and not just hunted from the ocean.
Yes that would be my ideal outcome but that is a while off from now that I see that happening. A small victory would be halting Japan and Norways attempts to legalise trade and stop any more increases in whale quotas.
Yes it is my opinion and I have stated why I believe what I believe.If anyone reads what I say and takes it seriously thats fine.If they dont thats fine too
There are communities in Japan that eat whale. Whale meat sells for $100 pound and makes an estimated $36,000,000. YOU should be able to prevent them because?
1. They probably want to expand it. <--- irrelevant / doesn't prove it should be banned only regulated.
2. They're not being farmed. <---- as long as they're hunted sustainably it doesn't make a bit of difference. An animal wouldn't choose being farmed over being hunted...
@misterhed Makes $36,000,000 hey?The Fisheries Agency of Japan released a report last year saying "Aside from the lack of international support, the report points to the financial issues tied to Antarctic whaling, stating that whaling is costing the country about $35 million per year (though the figure may be upwards of $60 million)". Once again you have been caught out fabricating information.
@OzisGodscountry "The Cetacean Research Institute, a government group which markets whale meat in Japan, says raw whale meat sells for up to $100 per pound in Tokyo supermarkets and whale meat sales are estimated at $36 million a year."
@misterhed As Ive said repeatedly whaling nations want the quota lifted and ban of trade lifted. This would make the regulation impossible and therefore I do not believe you can commercially hunt whales without threatening any species of whale.
@OzisGodscountry Even if the IWC lifts the moratorium it could still set limits as long as Japan remains in the IWC. The number of minke whales is healthy, and CAN be commercially hunted sustainably. You're wrong that it's either you ban it completely or they all go extinct.
@misterhed Once again you miss the point that the IWC cannot monitor illegal whaling and by lifting the moratorium and allowing trade of whale meat you are giving illegal whalers an avenue to offload their meat easily.
@OzisGodscountry By illegal whalers you mean countries like Iceland that withdrew from the IWC but export their meat to Japan? The fact that Japan buys this meat means that the demand is greater than the scientific research quota. If the moratorium is lifted and reasonable quotas were set for Japan, Iceland and Norway's whaling industry would collapse because Japan would be hunting enough to meet their own demand and there would not be enough demand in their own countries.
@OzisGodscountry You're assuming it would be cheaper to illegally import from iceland? bull. If the moratorium were lifted, Japanese whalers regulated by the IWC would have the upperhand in selling in Japan. And even if the japanese market continued to buy what they needed from iceland, that would just force the Japanese whalers to either lower their prices or go broke.
@misterhed Japanese waters couldnt sustain commercial whaling on the levels the pro-whalers want as the numbers struggle to get beack to a pre-whaling levels.Especially if you take into consideration the fact Japan and Norway both are investing huge amounts of money into researching and patenting (which Japan has a lot of) uses for whale oil,the need would outsupply demand not the other way around.Need for food is limited,need for an industrial resource,endless.
Where's your proof that demand for whale oil is "unlimited"? This isn't the 18th century. Nothing you ever said proved that whaling should be banned. You only prooved that it's not that profitable. And if it's not that profitable it just means it'll downsize or shutdown. If you think that means they'll expand it to hunting 10,000 whales you're crazy.
@misterhed You have no understanding about business do you? The proof is in the investments being made into whaling and whale oil industries and the patents being registered for uses of whale oil.You think people invest huge amounts of money for the hell of it?No they want a return (ie they want the whale oil reliant industry to prosper and grow) and due to the nature of business they will grow.So yes the demand will be endless if the laws are relaxed.
@OzisGodscountry All I'm asking for is a piece of text from another source that I could google search that proves that they are whaling for the purpose of whale oil.
@misterhed Although its impossible to gain written evidence to confirm that whale oil industries are pro-whalers ultimate intentions,this report was never debunked only swept under the carpet. Cannot post links but just google "Reinventing the Whale" What you are saying its its NOT for the whale oil but for consumption,is that right?
@OzisGodscountry And @ what you said about whalers having to increase their quotas to tens and thousands to be profitable, I highly doubt that. The Japanese market could not even absorb half that in a year. They would just go out of business. And even if they did set the quota that high, since Japanese whalers are in the IWC, they have the power to lower the quota.
@misterhed Hunting whales would not just be for consumption.In fact I believe if allowed to resume hunting and trading the market would be driven more for the oil of which demand would be huge. Answer this,why would Japan stockpile over 6000 tons (thats neally twice the amount killed in 2010) of whale meat when the market cant absorb the annual intake for consumption now?
this is the reason why japanese people suffer a lot, eat chicken, goat but for god sake don't eat whales ,,,, otherwise, i guerentee u that god will erase the japan from the globe seriously.... thumbs up if any one agree
THE QUESTION NOT LIES EAT OR NOT TO EAT OR ITS NON SENSE TO URGE ANOTHER COUNTRY FOR PROHIBITION OF FOODS ,BUT RAISED TO SAVE THE ENDANGERED SPECIES OF WHALES,BASICALLY FAR EAST COUNTRIES THEY EAT EVERY LIVING THING AT THIS PLANET,NOW THEY HAVE EYES ON WHALES MAKING SUSHIS.
I would prefer if whales could hunt and kill the Japanese.. not the other way around. Stop killing whales you sick twisted people, or God will punish you once again!!
Have you ever thought about people who make their living from whaling ? I'm not opposed to whaling ban, but I will never protest to Japanese whaling people to stop whaling. It is the same as to say to them to die.
Whaling is a complex issue than you think you are.
@huadujuan, When you eat other fish, do you breed them in a pool ? Nature belongs to all of us so how can you order some one on what to eat and what not to eat. I dont give a shit about the Japanese...but they too have a culture. So if you have a need to protect something, then start breeding it, cos if the so called white folks think that some thing is not right, other races should stop it?!?! why dont you guys talk about the people killed in war, is it because humans are not indangered?
@misterhed You didn't have too, you tried to keep your attitude nice, mature and reasonable, compare that to mine, of course you were calling me immature by pointing out the lack off intellect in my sentences, not to mention the racism..
But then you added my "father" being a child rapist towards me... so... you butt hurt still? Just wondering..
@iluvAUSandScooters Well now that the whaling part of the discussion was over with, me being the clear, concise, and reasonable winner. I am now just trying to console your childhood traumas that made you turn out this way.
@misterhed Yes, but you have no PROOF(even though nothing even happend). So, your usage of presumption and words, make you immature.. Now that i made you look like a hypocrite/ weak shit, i win this "reasonablly". NEXT CASE!
@iluvAUSandScooters Oh. You may not actually know yet what a hypocrite is. This may be the cause of the confusion. Just because I myself, acted one way, does not mean I was calling you the opposite. kk? Hypocrisy requires accusation.
You, on the other hand, are accusing me of immaturity while you yourself admitted you were being immature that makes you a... ?
Any whoo, I'm sorry you can't accept what your father did to your blowhole.
@iluvAUSandScooters You hold me to a standard higher than yourself, which is why you're a hypocrite. :D
Speaking of hypocrisy, practice what you preach buddy. Kangaroos = high population. Minke whales = high population. You hunt kangaroos, we hunt minke whales.
@misterhed Hmm you didn't respond about how they slaughter the dolphins in "the cove".
I hate how poachers and hunters kill kangaroo's, my friend tried to get me to shoot a kangaroo but i walked away from it, the only creatures i would ever agree to kill are pigs, rabbits and indian minors which are destorying Australia's natural enviroment. And japan is hunting more than ONE species you ignorant, hypocritical fool..
Also,"Minke" whales AREN'T doing anything to the enviroment
@iluvAUSandScooters Again, the MAIN whale we hunt is the minke whale. Do you understand this? about 800-1000. (In recent years only about 400) Fin whales and humpbacks are limited to about fifty a year. They're not gonna go extinct. This is the same with iceland and norway. Also do you realize that since minke whales are growing in population so much that they're endangering OTHER whales. They're in competition for food.
@misterhed Actually there is NO evidence minke numbers are anything more than normal.It isnt a plague of Minke's swimming around eating everything in sight whilst Humpbacks are starving lol.
Japan desperately wants to expand its whaling industry drastically. The numbers of which would put even Minke's numbers under threat.Im talking many times the numbers of whales we are seeing now.This isnt about culture,its about money,plain and simple
@OzisGodscountry Japan is currently sticking to it's quota of 1000 minke whales but you guys want that stopped. Why? What right do you have to stop that? It's sustainable and doesn't endanger anything. And OF COURSE it's about money, it's an industry. Every industry is about money. That's no criticism. And I notice how you aussies don't really pay attention to Norway or Iceland's whaling even though they're whaling about the same amount. But you single out Japan for it.
@misterhed Its not sustainable on the numbers Japan would need to make it economically viable let alone profitable which is,lets face it,the end goal from the whalers.The main reason Australians speak out about the Japanese predominantly is because they are hunting in Australian waters (convieniently not recognised by Japan).Surprising? Hardly.So if its about money,why does Japan try to stick to the lie that its for cultural reasons?
@OzisGodscountry They were hunting in the antarctic ocean. Look up "australian antarctic territory" and see the vast amount of the ice cap and water Australia is claiming. Only 4 countries recognize this huge claim of territory, Norway, UK, NZ, and France.
@misterhed Of course most nations dont recognise it.How dare Australia do what the "Big" nations have done for centuries and consider land as ours.Even though the UK claimed it way back in 1841 and we became a sort of protectorate. So you still havent answered my question,why does Japan try to stick to the lie that whaling is for cultural reasons? And you also seem to avoid comments about the quota the whalers would have to kill to satisfy the whaling companies bottom line
@OzisGodscountry Just because it's an industry doesn't mean it doesn't have cultural any cultural significance. If they've been doing it for a while it's part of their culture whether its good or bad and makes money or not. Many people would say Mcdonalds is part of American culture but does that mean "the only reason" that mcdonalds is open is because hamburgers and fries are part of american culture? No, it's to make money.
@misterhed Where is the cultural significance in hunting whales with state of the art equipment in waters they only began hunting in the 1930's?If they were using traditional practices THEN it may have cultural significance but not multi-million dollar ships and equipment.The culture angle is just another attempt by Japan to justify whaling. But thank you for admitting that its not about "scientific research",its about money.As you said "Its an industry".
@OzisGodscountry Yeah. And? As long as their sticking with sustainable quotas you have nothing to complain about. Their sticking to a sustainable quota right now so there's nothing for you to protest at this moment.
@misterhed Im complaining that the hunting of whales happens at all not whether Japan is complying to the quotas.But while you are on the subject,did you know about half the whales caught in one season were pregnant? Thats 50% more killed then on the quota sheet and that wont be swimming around next year isnt it?
@iluvAUSandScooters As for the cove, I'm not gonna speak on it because I haven't looked into it. Like I said, I'm not just blindly defending everything Japanese like you insinuated. But I HAVE looked into the facts about whaling and came to the conclusion that anti whaling australians are ignorant, hypocritical, racist, fools.
@misterhed I have seen a DVD on it, and it's bloody disgusting, if it's "traditional" then why use non traditional tools? It's 2011 and they're still doing it, that island is fucking full of disgusting people.
I'm anti whaling, and i'm not actually racist, i just use it to see the person who i'm arguing against will do the same so it gives me a reason not to bother with that person. We're not hypocritical, most Anti Whaling people are vegitarians, i'm not because red meat is important to humans
@misterhed How much "research" do you need to do regarding The Cove to come to the realisation its sickening to kill any animal in this manner?Its amazing what the mind ignores what the eyes dont want to see.
But you HAVE looked into the practice of whaling and even though Japan wants to dramatically expand their industry thus putting whale conservation back 50 years when some species of whale were in danger of extinction, you call anti-whalers are racist? How is it racist????
@OzisGodscountry You obviously haven't read the guy's old comments that I was arguing with. Every other comment was "Nuke the savage japs".
I oppose the complete ban of whaling you guys are pushing for. That's not what the IWC is for. It's to REGULATE whaling not to ban it completely. When did I say that all regulations should be lifted and people should be able to hunt to extinction? I'm just saying there's no need for the IWC to ban it.
@misterhed The IWC is a corrupt and biased organisation.Thats all I will say about the IWC,they are a joke. Although I would like to see no whaling whatsoever I do realise this is not going to happen in the near future. My main concern is the fact Japan and other whaling nations dont want to stay at the present quota,they want to increase it drastically to make it economically viable.That and hunt larger species like Humpbacks etc
Eh? My father left me?! Oh no, somebody help! Ehehehe Nah, i just pissed him off cos of court xP Now, will your butt hurt self come have oral sex with me for my victory? <3
@iluvAUSandScooters Look, I can never be a substitute for your real dad. I know you're reaching out but... Maybe you can find your real dad and that empty hole in your butt can be filled once again.
@misterhed Yeah, out of everyone who;s pathetic, you'd be king of that, anyway, since i won 15(me)-0(you) i think you should shut up by now, otherwise i'm gonna get to a score of 20.
@iluvAUSandScooters Well I've been only saying facts and numbers this whole time. You've been only saying your opinion as if it were fact. So quite obviously, I win.
Oh, I'm sorry I don't have 16, I only had 11. Silly me. But you still got that half a point. Make a good argument and I might give you a whole point. Don't give up!
@iluvAUSandScooters Nope, it's still my victory until you can make a sound argument on why Japanese should stop whaling instead of made up facts like that they're killing all the humpbacks.
Until then you can jerk to pictures of slim shady and cry about how your dad didn't give a shit about you.
@iluvAUSandScooters You already get enough dick on your own on a daily basis. No need to over exert yourself. Maybe you can get some blowhole action with your favorite animal.
@misterhed I want your dick bro, please come over here, we have fish that hasn't got diseases in it, you make make fresh sushi here bro, bu come here 1st, i want your small jap dick <3
@iluvAUSandScooters It's interesting how you switched to talking about sodomy after I commented on the post where you talked about your father leaving you. Must be related.
@iluvAUSandScooters No, don't worry you don't have 0, I gave you .5 because they tried to hunt 50 humpbacks in 2007. But not a whole point because they decided not to. And 50 also wouldn't have done shit to a population of 80,000. They've pretty much recovered since the soviets raped their stocks.
@misterhed Bullshit, your race are savages, you'd agree with it alot! Ahaha why do you keep going on about "minke" whales? They hunted Humpbacks aswell! Who were protected since the 60's and still are! Why do you think Australia was outraged? Dumbshit jap. Yes, i am winning this, but i believed i scored 10*, you're still on 0..sad...you're loosing xD
There was a TV show where American scientists wanted to do research on Whales... so they used a dart gun that took a skin sample the size of a pencil eraser, and from that they knew everything about the Whale's health, age, weight, sex, growth rate, diet, and most importantly, mercury levels! So if the japanese need to kill 1000 every year just to learn of ONE item (diet), then how skillful are their scientists? They don't understand what technology can do when one chooses to forego brutality!
@misterhed Uhhh what part of multicutrual don't you understand? Australia is known to be Multicultrual, especially after the white Australian policy, my ancestors are scotish and German, and genes run out through multicultrualism but my German side is strong, unlike japs, youse are all the same race so therefore, YOU'RE A SAVAGE! Proves your ignorance on my countries history.
FYI, my german ancestors was here BEFORE WW1 and WW2.
@iluvAUSandScooters So if there was an instance of a cruel or barbaric act that your ancestors committed does that automatically make YOU a savage and any children you might have? According to the logic that you're applying to me, you would be. Besides, neither my grand parents or great grand parents even fought in WW2 so I wouldn't even be descended from the people responsible for any WW2 war crimes.
@misterhed You japs are a cruel race, only ONE of the reasons why i hate you cunts, if you were against whaling more than i was, i might of thought different about all japs, but no you just wanted to debate xD Filthy japs..
@iluvAUSandScooters Well if the primary whales they were hunting were endangered, I would be against it, but they're not endangered and they're hunting sustainably so I'm not against it. Pretty simple.
@iluvAUSandScooters Do you think the whole whaling industry does not realize that if they hunt the whales to extinction that their industry would collapse? Of course they know, even a simpleton like you knew that. You think this is news for them or something lol. Obviously they don't want to hunt whales to extinction. That's why they're hunting primarily over populated Minke whales. durrrr
@misterhed Yes, well my "technique" obviously fucked you in the ass hard enough to make you butt hurt xD Go watch anime you jap savage! xD Lost at debating you? I don't know what you were doing, but i was trolling the whole time :P Who uses racism and debates at the same time? DEFFINATELY not me xD FAILOLOL
@misterhed xD Why would i agree with something that i don't agree with? I guess you don't understand anything that i was trolling with? Dumb savage butt hurt nip xD
@misterhed You're wrong in every way! Japs will always stick up for their own! If they were endangered worse than they are, you'd be having that soup all day long xD! Ugly jap! Nips are disgusting....just look at your faces xP
I don't agree with Japanese WW2 war crimes. But I don't see anything wrong with hunting overpopulated minke whales on a quota. You have been proved wrong once again, sir. The score is now probably 9 - 0.
@iluvAUSandScooters Everytime I talk about how they're whaling minke whales your retarded face goes "durr what about them?" which proves that you don't know what kind of whaling Japan does. 10 on me. - .5 on you bud. I'd give you one if the Japanese actually hunted humpback whales but I'll give you half a point because they tried to take 50 of them in 2007.
These creeps are treating the Whales like cows, BUT they're not replenishing the ranks after hunting and killing them! Therefore, they have no right to kill even ONE! Moreover, they don't own the oceans of Antarctica!
@info145 That's why they call it whale hunting instead of whale farming. As long as they make sure it's sustainable I don't see what the problem is. And it IS sustainable, not with all species but some.
@misterhed Man you ARE so but hurt, why not just admitt it? Should be easy, but i suppose you japs won't admit that youse are hunting whales for food, not "research".
THE WAR must be fought undyingly. The whalers are "over-harvesting" on an industrial scale! They say Minke Whales (the primary Whales hunted by the japanese) are not endangered. But Whales are Whales. They're inoffensive to man and don't deserve this. Besides, the japanese are killing Minke and Fin Whales and Beaked Whales Sei Whales and Byrdes Whales... and most importantly, HUMPBACK Whales! Animals can too easily be pushed toward extinction. Remember the dodo
Since they're not endangered why do you select them as "Less deserving of being eaten" than other animals. Either be against the killing of all animals or shut your trap if they're not endangered.
@iluvAUSandScooters ... how exactly am I supposed to be butt hurt? I don't understand. If I said all australians are vile savages for massacring the aboriginals would you be personally offended? Maybe you would, because you think blanket statements even for acts you weren't involved in should be taken personally. And if I point out a good thing Japan did you conveniently say "who cares?" lol strange logic.
@iluvAUSandScooters You can find research results from the IWC research comittee.
"the results from the research program have the potential to improve management of minke whales in the Southern Hemisphere"
And what do you think they should do with the whale meat? Let it rot? At least their using it. Even if they did hunt solely for food you have no right to complain. They're doing research so that they can responsibly have data on how to sustainably hunt.
@misterhed Really, that's how much of a low life you are? Do note i aint reading all of your LIES! Dumb japs! Ahahahaha pretty butt hurt one to reply with 3 paragraphs i onl read a sentence from xD i hope you japs just, drop dead with the chinks and the koreans...
@misterhed If whales are "over populated" then why would you want to increase the chance of them going extinct?! If they do, do you know how bad the ecosystem would be damaged? Let me put it this way...ONE STEP CLOSER TO HUMAN EXTINCTION! The only reason why they're re-populating good is because whaling is banned in 89% of the world! Also, learn your geography, if Antartica was ours, i think the whole world would be fucking pissed you dumbfuck! And it's the activist who do the "keep out"!
You learn the territorial claims of your own country you clueless cunt, then come back. Look up Australian antarctic territory, Australian antarctic territorial waters, and antarctic treaty and you will be EMBARRASSED about not knowing your own shit.
I'm not racist..well...heaps racist...but the japanese are FUCKS! They enter Australian waters and expect to be allowed to kill our whales! Even in their waters, it's fucking wrong! Whales aren't breed for killing like cows or chickens, they are wild and aren't force to mate! If these fucks still go at it, they will become extinct! They even got their Navy to protect their whaling ships! Soon a conflict is going to happend between them and Australia, i can see it! The Tsumami was a warning pigs!
You guys pretty much think the whole Antarctic ocean is "your" waters. lol
Did you know only FOUR countries recognize that whole ocean surrounding the antarctic as your waters? Also the whales they hunt are no where near extinct or endangered they're actually over populated.
you are truely the most disturbing nation ive ever seen. why hurt these beautiful animals? do you have pride killing? murdering? hurting our oceans? its organizations like this that tear our world apart. BAN WHALE HUNTING.
The Japanese do have every right to eat whales......if they weren't endangered. What happens if the day comes that they destroy every whale? It is a global concern and it just shows the arrogance of SOME Japanese.
I know from TV that those japanese ships had on board arms of mass whale destruction ... so let's invade japan , kill the emperor on a live tv show, get all the technology back to our country, teach them respect and and democracy redneck style, and then go back to US and slaughter 10 billion sheep, chicken, cattle, pigs so we can feed our 5 chiwawa I HATE IGNORANT PEOPLE
apparently, "culture" is more important to the japanese than nature... if only they could see how insignificant culture is in relation to nature. culture is dependent upon nature... not the other way around
Next time I go to Japan I will try some.
Shainingusutaru 1 week ago
The ocean got their revenge in March 2011, but more is to come. Leave the whales alone Japan, you are sickening.
freddodoppio 2 weeks ago
@freddodoppio Search for "faroe islands whaling". Hundreds of pilot whales are brutally killed and mutilated FOR SPORT each summer. Don't be surprised that whaling doesn't only happens in Japan. Inhumane treatment of animals happens worldwide. To confine your hate to only Japan is plain ignorance.
lalala38 4 days ago
eating whale may be it's your culture but it's so wrong you have to be understand and walk with environment so please Japanese stop your stupid mentality which has no end, but time will come when you feel guilty,
raj8598 2 weeks ago
HI JAPAN!!! ARE U READY 4 TSUNAMI AGAIN????????
TheChakart 2 weeks ago
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Research whaling is important. Growing population, abnormal weather and diastrophism may cause food shortage in the future. It is not wise to depend only on livestock industry or farming. Whale meat may be important food. Further, if there is no whaling, whales may grow too large and they may eat too much fish which is also important food.
調査捕鯨は大切です。人口増加や異常気象や地殻変動は将来の食料不足を起こす恐れがあります。そのため、を畜産や養殖のみに頼る訳にはいきません。鯨肉は重要な食料となりえるのです。また、鯨が増えすぎると魚を食べ過ぎて貴重な魚資源が枯渇するという危険もあります。
00019972b 2 weeks ago
you can choose what you eat or hunt for food but please make it sure that they can easily multiply......
samuelzacate 3 weeks ago
@samuelzacate Japanese whalers catch kinds of whales when are not endangered according to the IWC's decision.
00019972b 2 weeks ago
@00019972b Sei Whales arent endangered?Humpbacks arent endangered? Yet Japan wants permission to hunt these as well.
OzisGodscountry 2 weeks ago
Well.. what do fish do in this world? Nothing. Humans pollute the oceans and kill fish. So lets eat all the fish. make them extinct.
123tonysony 3 weeks ago
whaling in the name of science? in your culture to eat dolphin? wow the japs are even more fucked up than i thought.
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○Japanese whaling is allowed by 8th article of International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling.
○As to whaling,this treaty comes before any other treaties.
○In the South Sea,research whaling is allowed.
○IWC recognizes the whales Japan hunts are increasing,and non-endangered.
○The treaty compels whaling nations to reuse whale meats for something as much as possible after research.
○Whale meats sold in Japan are originally for reseach.
Being anti-whaler is a sign of the ignorant!
djmizuna 1 month ago
I am a Japanese. Americans and Europeans used to kill thousands of whales every year to produce oil for industry. Remenber "Moby Dick". The fact that some species of whales have gone exctinct and some are endangered now is due to their mass killing in the 19th century. Japan has been hunting a limited number of them, and has not influenced their population. Do not accuse somebody for what you have done.
pass516 1 month ago
@pass516 Nobody is denying the terrible deeds of the past and this is the reason I oppose ALL whaling.Its childish to say "oh you use to do it,so its ok for us to do it now". Grow up FFS!!! Japan is as much to blame as anyone else for the damage done since they have been commercially whaling since 1900 so dont play the holier than thou role.Oh and the real damage to whale numbers was during the 1900's not the 19th century lol
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry I do not agree with you at all. Anti whalers are distorting the fact and making false accusatiions. Most of the species extinct now have been so since the 19th century. See IWC website. And Japan is hunting limited numbers, and no specie has gone extinct by Japanese whaling. And if you know you have exterminsted all the species that are extinct now, you have no right to accuse somebody by far much less greedy than you.
pass516 1 month ago
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@pass516 More whales were killed during the 1900's than in the 19th century and Japan was involved in commercial whaling so how can you say "no specie has gone extinct by Japanese whaling".Did Japan not have to move whaling operations out of Japanese waters due to excessive harvesting of Sei Whales?
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@pass516 From the Seaweb website
"By far the greatest number of whales have been killed this century, following the development of "factory" ships, which allowed fleets to hunt whales for months at a time, killing and processing them at sea."
Japan doesnt want to stay at the quota it has now.They want to kill many many more each year.They have to increase the quota to make it profitable to the whaling companies.As well as hunt the larger species like Fin and Humpbacks
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pass516 4 weeks ago
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@OzisGodscountry The website you introduced tells us it is a stupid website , or a biased. Industrial whaing was started in the 16th century by the Western countries and later USA joined. They hunted whales in the Arctic ocean, the Atantic ocean,the Pacific ocean and exterminated some of them. The number of whaing fleets amounted to over 700 ,and hunted more than 10000 whales every year , to get oil for industry. Japan has been haunting much less. Thier extinction is due to Westerners.
pass516 4 weeks ago
@pass516 Cant reply to the truth?Seems most pro-whalers cant argue against the facts .
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry It's just that your argument is based on something they're not doing, not facts. Then you reference that to say it should be banned "completely" which doesn't make any sense.
Therefore there's nothing to argue about.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed The facts are that,for one thing, Japan is as much to blame for the damage done to whale numbers as any other nation.Japans waters were once abundant with various species of whales untill these numbers were devastated to the point whaling ships began travelling further south.
Another fact is that commercial whaling will NEVER be kept any sort of "acceptable quota".To hunt only Minkes as some idiots suggest Japan wants,the numbers would have to be in the tens of thousands
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry 'Never'... except right NOW? Lol.
Look at iceland, they hunt 1000 minke per year. If that were not profitable enough why would they do it?
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Please show proof that they hunt 1000 a year Minkes a year.But thank you for bringing up this point because it proves whaling nations want to hunt the larger species not Minkes as Iceland hunt Fin now and now the Fin Whales are back on the Endangered list.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry The current situation is not bad enough for you and would be useless to your argument, so you have to continuously reference your projection of what they "want". An activist that "creates" something to complain about.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Does Japan want to continue to kill only the current quotas?Do they want and have expressed the desire to increase the quota and to resume commercial whaling? By the way the current situation IS bad enough for me.I would prefer to see all whaling stopped.But the first step is to stop any further expansion of the quotas or the whaling industry,which is Japan and other whaling nations ultimate goal is it not?
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Your argument should be "any future expansion of whaling to ridiculous levels should be banned" not "all whaling should be banned, as there will never be an acceptable quota" while ignoring the current quotas lol.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Oh so you want to tell me what to say now? I live in Australia where free speech exists I believe.
If you actually read what I said properly you will see I was refering to commercial whaling (which remember Japan isnt doing its "scientific research" lol) and if its made legal in reference to an acceptable quota.Iceland has already helped put a species back on the endangered list in the last 10 years and further proof of my original statement
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry I wasn't telling you what to say, I was just saying that your statements didn't logically lead to "all whaling should be banned" only that they shouldn't expand it to unsustainable levels..
I meant Norway's quota was 1000 minke whales sorry, i'm not sure about iceland.
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OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
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@misterhed Quote "Your argument should be "any future expansion of whaling to ridiculous levels should be banned"" is this not telling what to say?So to make sure you understand my position 100% here it is.My ideal outcome would be the banning of ALL whaling,whether for profit,cultural reasons, or scientific reasearch (chuckle under my breath). I have also said the reasons I believe commercial whaling should never be allowed.Whats so hard to understand?
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Search Whaling in Norway on wikipedia and it'll show the quotas. Some years they only caught 300-500 minke. Proves that whalers don't need to hunt 10,000 to be profitable like you said. Besides don't you think whalers know in this day and age that if they make the whales go extinct that it would be BAD for their industry?
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed How does that prove anything except you proving you are fabricating stories that they are CATCHING 1000 Minkes a year. As I have asked repeatedly -Do you think whaling nations want to keep the quota where it is?At the moment trade of whale meat between nations is banned but Japan Norway are fighting to allow trade which would encourage and even assist the sale of "black market" meat which in turn would lead to huge numbers or unreported whales being killed and sold.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Their quota since 2006 has been 1052 minke, I'm not fabricating anything.. Personally, I don't give a shit if they keep it as it is or increase it as long as it's sustainable. But anyway, if no one wants to buy the meat, why would it be MORE profitable if they increased the quota? It would just waste more fuel and resources..
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed You said "they hunt 1000 minke per year" which is a lie. The QUOTA is 1000 (or so). Whale meat is more popular in Japan (and Korea) than Norway (where I said its hard to sell the meat they catch hence why they want the ban on trade to Japan lifted.You really should read a bit slower to understand what people say.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Whaling in Norway is far from profitable with boats having to travel further as stocks diminish locally (hmmmm wonder why??). All whalers have to also catch fish outside of the season.So as you can see its far from profitable even if they caught the full quota (which of course they couldnt because the numbers are diminishing).Norway cant even give the meat away in Norway,very few people eat it and many oppose whaling as I do.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Your position is "all whaling should be banned" even if it is at a sustainable level. So that's just your opinion and no one should take it seriously. You might as well say "all meat eating should be banned."
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed BIIIIGGG difference when the cattle is bred for that exact purpose and not just hunted from the ocean.
Yes that would be my ideal outcome but that is a while off from now that I see that happening. A small victory would be halting Japan and Norways attempts to legalise trade and stop any more increases in whale quotas.
Yes it is my opinion and I have stated why I believe what I believe.If anyone reads what I say and takes it seriously thats fine.If they dont thats fine too
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Looking at this video of people eating it in Tokyo restaurants, it looks pretty damn profitable to me...
"BIIIIGGG difference when the cattle is bred for that exact purpose and not just hunted from the ocean."
If the hunting from ocean is done responsibly without overhunting and endangering the species why would the difference be "BIIIIG"?
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed How can you tell by someone eating something its profitable HAHAHA. Honestly you are really struggling here arent you lol
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Answer this.
There are communities in Japan that eat whale. Whale meat sells for $100 pound and makes an estimated $36,000,000. YOU should be able to prevent them because?
1. They probably want to expand it. <--- irrelevant / doesn't prove it should be banned only regulated.
2. They're not being farmed. <---- as long as they're hunted sustainably it doesn't make a bit of difference. An animal wouldn't choose being farmed over being hunted...
Any more reasons?
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Makes $36,000,000 hey?The Fisheries Agency of Japan released a report last year saying "Aside from the lack of international support, the report points to the financial issues tied to Antarctic whaling, stating that whaling is costing the country about $35 million per year (though the figure may be upwards of $60 million)". Once again you have been caught out fabricating information.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry "The Cetacean Research Institute, a government group which markets whale meat in Japan, says raw whale meat sells for up to $100 per pound in Tokyo supermarkets and whale meat sales are estimated at $36 million a year."
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Probably does make $36 million at the counter but at a loss to Japan of $35,000,000 lol.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry <<<<< implying that forcing animals to have sex to eat their babies is more moral than killing what's already swimming about.
(Assuming you're not killing them all of course)
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Yes it is more moral,its called farming.Putting an animal on the endangered list is immoral.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry And if you don't endanger it?
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed As Ive said repeatedly whaling nations want the quota lifted and ban of trade lifted. This would make the regulation impossible and therefore I do not believe you can commercially hunt whales without threatening any species of whale.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Of course they'd want them lifted. Doesn't mean whaling should be banned.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed In your opinion perhaps but the vast majority of people around the world have a different opinion.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Even if the IWC lifts the moratorium it could still set limits as long as Japan remains in the IWC. The number of minke whales is healthy, and CAN be commercially hunted sustainably. You're wrong that it's either you ban it completely or they all go extinct.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Once again you miss the point that the IWC cannot monitor illegal whaling and by lifting the moratorium and allowing trade of whale meat you are giving illegal whalers an avenue to offload their meat easily.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry By illegal whalers you mean countries like Iceland that withdrew from the IWC but export their meat to Japan? The fact that Japan buys this meat means that the demand is greater than the scientific research quota. If the moratorium is lifted and reasonable quotas were set for Japan, Iceland and Norway's whaling industry would collapse because Japan would be hunting enough to meet their own demand and there would not be enough demand in their own countries.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry If the legal whaling increases, the illegal whaling decreases. The demand is limited.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed You obviously dont have a strong understanding about business where money talks,not who's selling it.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry You're assuming it would be cheaper to illegally import from iceland? bull. If the moratorium were lifted, Japanese whalers regulated by the IWC would have the upperhand in selling in Japan. And even if the japanese market continued to buy what they needed from iceland, that would just force the Japanese whalers to either lower their prices or go broke.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Japanese waters couldnt sustain commercial whaling on the levels the pro-whalers want as the numbers struggle to get beack to a pre-whaling levels.Especially if you take into consideration the fact Japan and Norway both are investing huge amounts of money into researching and patenting (which Japan has a lot of) uses for whale oil,the need would outsupply demand not the other way around.Need for food is limited,need for an industrial resource,endless.
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
@misterhed No answer??
OzisGodscountry 2 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry Oh sorry, I forgot about you.
Where's your proof that demand for whale oil is "unlimited"? This isn't the 18th century. Nothing you ever said proved that whaling should be banned. You only prooved that it's not that profitable. And if it's not that profitable it just means it'll downsize or shutdown. If you think that means they'll expand it to hunting 10,000 whales you're crazy.
misterhed 2 weeks ago
@misterhed You have no understanding about business do you? The proof is in the investments being made into whaling and whale oil industries and the patents being registered for uses of whale oil.You think people invest huge amounts of money for the hell of it?No they want a return (ie they want the whale oil reliant industry to prosper and grow) and due to the nature of business they will grow.So yes the demand will be endless if the laws are relaxed.
OzisGodscountry 2 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry All I'm asking for is a piece of text from another source that I could google search that proves that they are whaling for the purpose of whale oil.
misterhed 2 weeks ago
@misterhed Although its impossible to gain written evidence to confirm that whale oil industries are pro-whalers ultimate intentions,this report was never debunked only swept under the carpet. Cannot post links but just google "Reinventing the Whale" What you are saying its its NOT for the whale oil but for consumption,is that right?
OzisGodscountry 2 weeks ago
@OzisGodscountry And @ what you said about whalers having to increase their quotas to tens and thousands to be profitable, I highly doubt that. The Japanese market could not even absorb half that in a year. They would just go out of business. And even if they did set the quota that high, since Japanese whalers are in the IWC, they have the power to lower the quota.
misterhed 3 weeks ago
@misterhed Hunting whales would not just be for consumption.In fact I believe if allowed to resume hunting and trading the market would be driven more for the oil of which demand would be huge. Answer this,why would Japan stockpile over 6000 tons (thats neally twice the amount killed in 2010) of whale meat when the market cant absorb the annual intake for consumption now?
OzisGodscountry 3 weeks ago
i m with ausis, beat the tiny ass of japanese
gsinghbjatt77 1 month ago
this is the reason why japanese people suffer a lot, eat chicken, goat but for god sake don't eat whales ,,,, otherwise, i guerentee u that god will erase the japan from the globe seriously.... thumbs up if any one agree
gsinghbjatt77 1 month ago
THE QUESTION NOT LIES EAT OR NOT TO EAT OR ITS NON SENSE TO URGE ANOTHER COUNTRY FOR PROHIBITION OF FOODS ,BUT RAISED TO SAVE THE ENDANGERED SPECIES OF WHALES,BASICALLY FAR EAST COUNTRIES THEY EAT EVERY LIVING THING AT THIS PLANET,NOW THEY HAVE EYES ON WHALES MAKING SUSHIS.
thepkspirit 1 month ago
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I would prefer if whales could hunt and kill the Japanese.. not the other way around. Stop killing whales you sick twisted people, or God will punish you once again!!
WC2002Truth 1 month ago
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Have you ever thought about people who make their living from whaling ? I'm not opposed to whaling ban, but I will never protest to Japanese whaling people to stop whaling. It is the same as to say to them to die.
Whaling is a complex issue than you think you are.
oneofthejapanese 1 month ago
@huadujuan, When you eat other fish, do you breed them in a pool ? Nature belongs to all of us so how can you order some one on what to eat and what not to eat. I dont give a shit about the Japanese...but they too have a culture. So if you have a need to protect something, then start breeding it, cos if the so called white folks think that some thing is not right, other races should stop it?!?! why dont you guys talk about the people killed in war, is it because humans are not indangered?
didp2003 1 month ago
Looks like the Americans need to bomb hiroshima again
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@misterhed Hehe and you say i'm immature? XP You just made yourseld look like a hypocrite hehehe much love you ugly jap xD <3
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters I never called you immature. Maybe it was so obvious that you were, that you imagined that I did? hmm.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed You didn't have too, you tried to keep your attitude nice, mature and reasonable, compare that to mine, of course you were calling me immature by pointing out the lack off intellect in my sentences, not to mention the racism..
But then you added my "father" being a child rapist towards me... so... you butt hurt still? Just wondering..
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Well now that the whaling part of the discussion was over with, me being the clear, concise, and reasonable winner. I am now just trying to console your childhood traumas that made you turn out this way.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Yes, but you have no PROOF(even though nothing even happend). So, your usage of presumption and words, make you immature.. Now that i made you look like a hypocrite/ weak shit, i win this "reasonablly". NEXT CASE!
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters The first step of grief is denial. Also: never called u immature. therefore not hippo.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Yes you did, and you are in denial of your hypcritical ways..
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Oh. You may not actually know yet what a hypocrite is. This may be the cause of the confusion. Just because I myself, acted one way, does not mean I was calling you the opposite. kk? Hypocrisy requires accusation.
You, on the other hand, are accusing me of immaturity while you yourself admitted you were being immature that makes you a... ?
Any whoo, I'm sorry you can't accept what your father did to your blowhole.
misterhed 1 month ago
btw, my whaling arguments my have made a lot of sense. But now that I have won that. I now can only use you to get a daily 5 seconds of laughter.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Hmm not really, have you seen what the savages do to dolphins? Have ya? Look it up.
By the way, you're becoming the very hypocrite that i hoped you to become....keep at it :)
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters You hold me to a standard higher than yourself, which is why you're a hypocrite. :D
Speaking of hypocrisy, practice what you preach buddy. Kangaroos = high population. Minke whales = high population. You hunt kangaroos, we hunt minke whales.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Hmm you didn't respond about how they slaughter the dolphins in "the cove".
I hate how poachers and hunters kill kangaroo's, my friend tried to get me to shoot a kangaroo but i walked away from it, the only creatures i would ever agree to kill are pigs, rabbits and indian minors which are destorying Australia's natural enviroment. And japan is hunting more than ONE species you ignorant, hypocritical fool..
Also,"Minke" whales AREN'T doing anything to the enviroment
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Again, the MAIN whale we hunt is the minke whale. Do you understand this? about 800-1000. (In recent years only about 400) Fin whales and humpbacks are limited to about fifty a year. They're not gonna go extinct. This is the same with iceland and norway. Also do you realize that since minke whales are growing in population so much that they're endangering OTHER whales. They're in competition for food.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Actually there is NO evidence minke numbers are anything more than normal.It isnt a plague of Minke's swimming around eating everything in sight whilst Humpbacks are starving lol.
Japan desperately wants to expand its whaling industry drastically. The numbers of which would put even Minke's numbers under threat.Im talking many times the numbers of whales we are seeing now.This isnt about culture,its about money,plain and simple
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry Japan is currently sticking to it's quota of 1000 minke whales but you guys want that stopped. Why? What right do you have to stop that? It's sustainable and doesn't endanger anything. And OF COURSE it's about money, it's an industry. Every industry is about money. That's no criticism. And I notice how you aussies don't really pay attention to Norway or Iceland's whaling even though they're whaling about the same amount. But you single out Japan for it.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Its not sustainable on the numbers Japan would need to make it economically viable let alone profitable which is,lets face it,the end goal from the whalers.The main reason Australians speak out about the Japanese predominantly is because they are hunting in Australian waters (convieniently not recognised by Japan).Surprising? Hardly.So if its about money,why does Japan try to stick to the lie that its for cultural reasons?
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry They were hunting in the antarctic ocean. Look up "australian antarctic territory" and see the vast amount of the ice cap and water Australia is claiming. Only 4 countries recognize this huge claim of territory, Norway, UK, NZ, and France.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Of course most nations dont recognise it.How dare Australia do what the "Big" nations have done for centuries and consider land as ours.Even though the UK claimed it way back in 1841 and we became a sort of protectorate. So you still havent answered my question,why does Japan try to stick to the lie that whaling is for cultural reasons? And you also seem to avoid comments about the quota the whalers would have to kill to satisfy the whaling companies bottom line
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry Just because it's an industry doesn't mean it doesn't have cultural any cultural significance. If they've been doing it for a while it's part of their culture whether its good or bad and makes money or not. Many people would say Mcdonalds is part of American culture but does that mean "the only reason" that mcdonalds is open is because hamburgers and fries are part of american culture? No, it's to make money.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Where is the cultural significance in hunting whales with state of the art equipment in waters they only began hunting in the 1930's?If they were using traditional practices THEN it may have cultural significance but not multi-million dollar ships and equipment.The culture angle is just another attempt by Japan to justify whaling. But thank you for admitting that its not about "scientific research",its about money.As you said "Its an industry".
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry Yeah. And? As long as their sticking with sustainable quotas you have nothing to complain about. Their sticking to a sustainable quota right now so there's nothing for you to protest at this moment.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Im complaining that the hunting of whales happens at all not whether Japan is complying to the quotas.But while you are on the subject,did you know about half the whales caught in one season were pregnant? Thats 50% more killed then on the quota sheet and that wont be swimming around next year isnt it?
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry You can't protest something that they're not doing.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters As for the cove, I'm not gonna speak on it because I haven't looked into it. Like I said, I'm not just blindly defending everything Japanese like you insinuated. But I HAVE looked into the facts about whaling and came to the conclusion that anti whaling australians are ignorant, hypocritical, racist, fools.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed I have seen a DVD on it, and it's bloody disgusting, if it's "traditional" then why use non traditional tools? It's 2011 and they're still doing it, that island is fucking full of disgusting people.
I'm anti whaling, and i'm not actually racist, i just use it to see the person who i'm arguing against will do the same so it gives me a reason not to bother with that person. We're not hypocritical, most Anti Whaling people are vegitarians, i'm not because red meat is important to humans
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters What was the name of the movie?
GreenpeaceCleveland 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Stay in character next time.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed How much "research" do you need to do regarding The Cove to come to the realisation its sickening to kill any animal in this manner?Its amazing what the mind ignores what the eyes dont want to see.
But you HAVE looked into the practice of whaling and even though Japan wants to dramatically expand their industry thus putting whale conservation back 50 years when some species of whale were in danger of extinction, you call anti-whalers are racist? How is it racist????
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@OzisGodscountry You obviously haven't read the guy's old comments that I was arguing with. Every other comment was "Nuke the savage japs".
I oppose the complete ban of whaling you guys are pushing for. That's not what the IWC is for. It's to REGULATE whaling not to ban it completely. When did I say that all regulations should be lifted and people should be able to hunt to extinction? I'm just saying there's no need for the IWC to ban it.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed The IWC is a corrupt and biased organisation.Thats all I will say about the IWC,they are a joke. Although I would like to see no whaling whatsoever I do realise this is not going to happen in the near future. My main concern is the fact Japan and other whaling nations dont want to stay at the present quota,they want to increase it drastically to make it economically viable.That and hunt larger species like Humpbacks etc
OzisGodscountry 1 month ago
@misterhed Hehe read my comment below <3
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iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
Eh? My father left me?! Oh no, somebody help! Ehehehe Nah, i just pissed him off cos of court xP Now, will your butt hurt self come have oral sex with me for my victory? <3
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Look, I can never be a substitute for your real dad. I know you're reaching out but... Maybe you can find your real dad and that empty hole in your butt can be filled once again.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Yeah, out of everyone who;s pathetic, you'd be king of that, anyway, since i won 15(me)-0(you) i think you should shut up by now, otherwise i'm gonna get to a score of 20.
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters
So no response to how they didn't hunt humpbacks? Ok. 16 - 0.5
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Well I've been only saying facts and numbers this whole time. You've been only saying your opinion as if it were fact. So quite obviously, I win.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters
Oh, I'm sorry I don't have 16, I only had 11. Silly me. But you still got that half a point. Make a good argument and I might give you a whole point. Don't give up!
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed I love you, will you have sex with me? I'm winning, we should have sex...in celebration..
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Maybe you can ask your father.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed I'm asking you, will you suck my dick for my victory?
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Nope, it's still my victory until you can make a sound argument on why Japanese should stop whaling instead of made up facts like that they're killing all the humpbacks.
Until then you can jerk to pictures of slim shady and cry about how your dad didn't give a shit about you.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Bro, a simple question, will you suck my dick for my victory? Or do you prefer me to butt fuck you? I'll wear a condom
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Bitch please, begging won't help. Begging didn't work with your father and it won't work with me.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Please i want your dick, pleaseeeeeeeeee! Mister jap, i want your small penis, i love you long time..
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters You already get enough dick on your own on a daily basis. No need to over exert yourself. Maybe you can get some blowhole action with your favorite animal.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed I want your dick bro, please come over here, we have fish that hasn't got diseases in it, you make make fresh sushi here bro, bu come here 1st, i want your small jap dick <3
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Oh no, let's have some whale instead.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters It's interesting how you switched to talking about sodomy after I commented on the post where you talked about your father leaving you. Must be related.
misterhed 1 month ago
o wait.... he's eminem?
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Oh i thought this was finally over, fuck off, i won, score 10- 0...
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters No, don't worry you don't have 0, I gave you .5 because they tried to hunt 50 humpbacks in 2007. But not a whole point because they decided not to. And 50 also wouldn't have done shit to a population of 80,000. They've pretty much recovered since the soviets raped their stocks.
misterhed 1 month ago
I'm not sure what to think of whaling itself, but using disaster relief money to fund whaling sure as fuck crossed the line.
HiddenFacedMatt 1 month ago
that's sick!talking is useless.to stop these japs,you need a gun!
whyempire 1 month ago
@misterhed Bullshit, your race are savages, you'd agree with it alot! Ahaha why do you keep going on about "minke" whales? They hunted Humpbacks aswell! Who were protected since the 60's and still are! Why do you think Australia was outraged? Dumbshit jap. Yes, i am winning this, but i believed i scored 10*, you're still on 0..sad...you're loosing xD
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Because they hunt 900 minke whales a year that's why. They didn't hunt any humpbacks although they planned to take 50 in 2007.
misterhed 1 month ago
There was a TV show where American scientists wanted to do research on Whales... so they used a dart gun that took a skin sample the size of a pencil eraser, and from that they knew everything about the Whale's health, age, weight, sex, growth rate, diet, and most importantly, mercury levels! So if the japanese need to kill 1000 every year just to learn of ONE item (diet), then how skillful are their scientists? They don't understand what technology can do when one chooses to forego brutality!
info145 1 month ago
@info145
Yeah but you're not complaining about hunting minke whales right? The other whales you mentioned are killed less than in the double digits per year.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed That was actually the british but what ever floats your whaling boat :) ya savage xD
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters "Actually" the british? You guys WERE british settlers.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Uhhh what part of multicutrual don't you understand? Australia is known to be Multicultrual, especially after the white Australian policy, my ancestors are scotish and German, and genes run out through multicultrualism but my German side is strong, unlike japs, youse are all the same race so therefore, YOU'RE A SAVAGE! Proves your ignorance on my countries history.
FYI, my german ancestors was here BEFORE WW1 and WW2.
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters So if there was an instance of a cruel or barbaric act that your ancestors committed does that automatically make YOU a savage and any children you might have? According to the logic that you're applying to me, you would be. Besides, neither my grand parents or great grand parents even fought in WW2 so I wouldn't even be descended from the people responsible for any WW2 war crimes.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed You japs are a cruel race, only ONE of the reasons why i hate you cunts, if you were against whaling more than i was, i might of thought different about all japs, but no you just wanted to debate xD Filthy japs..
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Well if the primary whales they were hunting were endangered, I would be against it, but they're not endangered and they're hunting sustainably so I'm not against it. Pretty simple.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Do you think the whole whaling industry does not realize that if they hunt the whales to extinction that their industry would collapse? Of course they know, even a simpleton like you knew that. You think this is news for them or something lol. Obviously they don't want to hunt whales to extinction. That's why they're hunting primarily over populated Minke whales. durrrr
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Bullshiting liar xD Ahahaha japs are LIARS i'm not a simplton, i just find trolling japs fun ahahahah dumb savage.
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Well, obviously you're a troll but you started off trying to debate me and lost.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Of course you're a simpleton, just look at your trolling technique, it's atrocious.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Yes, well my "technique" obviously fucked you in the ass hard enough to make you butt hurt xD Go watch anime you jap savage! xD Lost at debating you? I don't know what you were doing, but i was trolling the whole time :P Who uses racism and debates at the same time? DEFFINATELY not me xD FAILOLOL
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Well, now that you admit that was all trolling we can agree that whaling is sustainable and should go on. :D
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed xD Why would i agree with something that i don't agree with? I guess you don't understand anything that i was trolling with? Dumb savage butt hurt nip xD
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@iluvAUSandScooters Well simply because you have no reason to disagree with it.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters The important thing here is not if you were trolling or not, that's your problem. The important thing is that I am right.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed You're wrong in every way! Japs will always stick up for their own! If they were endangered worse than they are, you'd be having that soup all day long xD! Ugly jap! Nips are disgusting....just look at your faces xP
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters "Japs will always stick up for their own!"
I don't agree with Japanese WW2 war crimes. But I don't see anything wrong with hunting overpopulated minke whales on a quota. You have been proved wrong once again, sir. The score is now probably 9 - 0.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Everytime I talk about how they're whaling minke whales your retarded face goes "durr what about them?" which proves that you don't know what kind of whaling Japan does. 10 on me. - .5 on you bud. I'd give you one if the Japanese actually hunted humpback whales but I'll give you half a point because they tried to take 50 of them in 2007.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed
These creeps are treating the Whales like cows, BUT they're not replenishing the ranks after hunting and killing them! Therefore, they have no right to kill even ONE! Moreover, they don't own the oceans of Antarctica!
info145 1 month ago
@info145 That's why they call it whale hunting instead of whale farming. As long as they make sure it's sustainable I don't see what the problem is. And it IS sustainable, not with all species but some.
misterhed 1 month ago
xD
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
hurt*
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@misterhed You didn't prove that you're not a butt burt jap xD
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters If I said all australians are vile savages for massacring the aboriginals would you be a butthurt australian?
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Man you ARE so but hurt, why not just admitt it? Should be easy, but i suppose you japs won't admit that youse are hunting whales for food, not "research".
So what would people expect, fucking SAVAGE!
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
THE WAR must be fought undyingly. The whalers are "over-harvesting" on an industrial scale! They say Minke Whales (the primary Whales hunted by the japanese) are not endangered. But Whales are Whales. They're inoffensive to man and don't deserve this. Besides, the japanese are killing Minke and Fin Whales and Beaked Whales Sei Whales and Byrdes Whales... and most importantly, HUMPBACK Whales! Animals can too easily be pushed toward extinction. Remember the dodo
info145 1 month ago
@info145
Since they're not endangered why do you select them as "Less deserving of being eaten" than other animals. Either be against the killing of all animals or shut your trap if they're not endangered.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed THEY ARE endangered and i AM against. You seem to have misread my post
info145 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters ... how exactly am I supposed to be butt hurt? I don't understand. If I said all australians are vile savages for massacring the aboriginals would you be personally offended? Maybe you would, because you think blanket statements even for acts you weren't involved in should be taken personally. And if I point out a good thing Japan did you conveniently say "who cares?" lol strange logic.
misterhed 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters You can find research results from the IWC research comittee.
"the results from the research program have the potential to improve management of minke whales in the Southern Hemisphere"
And what do you think they should do with the whale meat? Let it rot? At least their using it. Even if they did hunt solely for food you have no right to complain. They're doing research so that they can responsibly have data on how to sustainably hunt.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed Really, that's how much of a low life you are? Do note i aint reading all of your LIES! Dumb japs! Ahahahaha pretty butt hurt one to reply with 3 paragraphs i onl read a sentence from xD i hope you japs just, drop dead with the chinks and the koreans...
iluvAUSandScooters 1 month ago
@iluvAUSandScooters Anyway, the point is, everything you ever said was disproven. I think we're done here.
misterhed 1 month ago
@misterhed If whales are "over populated" then why would you want to increase the chance of them going extinct?! If they do, do you know how bad the ecosystem would be damaged? Let me put it this way...ONE STEP CLOSER TO HUMAN EXTINCTION! The only reason why they're re-populating good is because whaling is banned in 89% of the world! Also, learn your geography, if Antartica was ours, i think the whole world would be fucking pissed you dumbfuck! And it's the activist who do the "keep out"!
iluvAUSandScooters 2 months ago
@iluvAUSandScooters
You learn the territorial claims of your own country you clueless cunt, then come back. Look up Australian antarctic territory, Australian antarctic territorial waters, and antarctic treaty and you will be EMBARRASSED about not knowing your own shit.
misterhed 2 months ago
I'm not racist..well...heaps racist...but the japanese are FUCKS! They enter Australian waters and expect to be allowed to kill our whales! Even in their waters, it's fucking wrong! Whales aren't breed for killing like cows or chickens, they are wild and aren't force to mate! If these fucks still go at it, they will become extinct! They even got their Navy to protect their whaling ships! Soon a conflict is going to happend between them and Australia, i can see it! The Tsumami was a warning pigs!
iluvAUSandScooters 2 months ago
@iluvAUSandScooters
You guys pretty much think the whole Antarctic ocean is "your" waters. lol
Did you know only FOUR countries recognize that whole ocean surrounding the antarctic as your waters? Also the whales they hunt are no where near extinct or endangered they're actually over populated.
misterhed 2 months ago
you are truely the most disturbing nation ive ever seen. why hurt these beautiful animals? do you have pride killing? murdering? hurting our oceans? its organizations like this that tear our world apart. BAN WHALE HUNTING.
alsmith2020 2 months ago
The Japanese do have every right to eat whales......if they weren't endangered. What happens if the day comes that they destroy every whale? It is a global concern and it just shows the arrogance of SOME Japanese.
MrRealityCheck88 2 months ago
@MrRealityCheck88
Ok, and minke whales aren't endangered. Therefore you just admitted they have the right to do it.
misterhed 2 months ago
I know from TV that those japanese ships had on board arms of mass whale destruction ... so let's invade japan , kill the emperor on a live tv show, get all the technology back to our country, teach them respect and and democracy redneck style, and then go back to US and slaughter 10 billion sheep, chicken, cattle, pigs so we can feed our 5 chiwawa I HATE IGNORANT PEOPLE
javafisher 2 months ago
apparently, "culture" is more important to the japanese than nature... if only they could see how insignificant culture is in relation to nature. culture is dependent upon nature... not the other way around
swosene 2 months ago
RESEARCH?!! yeah, and I can say that last tsunami was also just for RESEARCH! fuck you Japan!
jasonism123 2 months ago