Mark Steyn on America, Europe and Islam (2 of 4)

[starinthehoodmuzz]

He is so right i wish the government would wake up and stop burying their heads in the sand . Its only a matter of time before this situation reaches boiling point then shits really going to hit the fan .

[KumarZimmerman08]

Europeans and Western Civilization will go extinct. WHY WHY WHY are we allowing this to happen? How brainwashed can an entire race of people be that they welcome their own genocide?

[starinthehoodmuzz]

@KumarZimmerman08 Political correctness gone mad thats why . The muslims might aswell hand us a shovel to dig our own graves :(

[meechoman90]

"religion of perpetual outrage." the most perfect description I have heard so far from anybody. love it.

[watchful38]

@meechoman90 C.S. Lewis was the first to refer to Islam as a religion of "outrage". Churhill said slavery of women would only end when Islam disappeared. Lewis and Churchill were the True Prophets! Peace and Blessing be upon them!

[geomusicmove]

She doesn't look very western to me LOL

[jimmyjamesWang]

@geomusicmove, but sure she is non-muslim. lol. the world has changed so much, it use to be western vs non-western. Now it's muslim vs non-muslim.

[geomusicmove]

@jimmyjamesWang Well, but still, the conflict you mentioned, muslims vs non-muslims is the new East vs West. We always need a foe to keep everyone in check.

Anyway if it's about muslims vs non-muslims then it's 'muslims vs the rest of the world', seems a bit too much.

I'm white and western and proud of it, but don't need people with such a dubious intellect like Steyn to stand up for me, he's as backwards as the islamists he criticises

[fightefx]

he has not really an idea about europe. sorry

[lonzhao]

Muslims stop trolling please.

[cb44ever]

support israel support democracy dont let e win and check out the real faceof da gaza strip hamas and how disgusting their acts truly are and im talkin bout against their own they call people to get up on roofs of house that we tell them were going to hit and take out instead of getting out cause we are trying notto kill them and they get them on the roof and if ya heard that and didnt go they would kill you n call ya traitor if now go look for not propgeanda but simple videogo to memri osommin

[afrikanbadboy]

@cb44ever jews want the white race to die so ya support israel all u wish until islamic immigration rules all of europe and whites age and have no kids , this world will have a good future

fuckin white nazi

[akuaaron]

@afrikanbadboy fuckwit....Fuck islam and its maggot followers



[cb44ever]

sorry bout all teh comments people just look at the real picture there are people in this world that simply cause they dont hear it on waht they watch they think it didnt happen like when a kid in sderot loses his legs or people are deformed from the thousands of rockets that fallen there people say that never happened or when they say the people in gaza are suffereing so much so they do this then why are people losin their minds daily in sderot why wad ya pull outta there4 dis to happen

[cb44ever]

cartoons of or ariel sharon eatingbabies blood libel most famous example ..people these are the worst of the terrorists there are things cause ya only watch liberal media dey wnt touch at all and thats the brutality of people hamas takes over hospitals fixes their fighters and takes their weapons they used ambulances to take terrorists . they attach him out in fire when soldier tries to grab bomb ,detonator to their child and send him boom and they sing the aarabs are their own prob

[cb44ever]

love democracy , support Israel.. ya can go to gaza and always get someone ready to lie and accuse israel of war crimes it takes years for people who get out to realize the world is not what they think and the reality it goes as deep as teaching lies in history class to little children go to a class ask them bout the holocaust ask them abou da bible blah blah da jews corrupted the bible,, historical lies of west and jews they even teach that europe was the jews faultso why iswhat happen todemnot

[cb44ever]

the lie of the protocols of zion has a new sisiter the goldstone report ya believe people that are taught to lie or hamas will hang them for being collabaorators if ya speek out against terrorism terrorist kill ya in arab lands if ya ask a woman in gaza bout her home she will tell ya it blew up then ya find out she says it again the next week they are nazi like wit the propeganda and demonization "we will have peace when the arabs love their own children more than they hate ours " Golda Meir

[cb44ever]

liberal media and political elite are too scraed to offend people that are offended by anything ...they do it out of fear or appeasement of ajorities not out of a ned to know but fear of violence , or alienating a mass the arabs tell ya the zionists control media i not true its the saudis and all muslim majoritieswhy would media hate on Israel so much and flat out lie then retract stories on the middle eats its everyday arab edia demonizes Israel and jews with lies da real protocols are muslim!!

[cb44ever]

if someone would please!!!!!!!! notice that the shoebomber and the christams day attempt also came through the netherlands a largely muslim country and largely muslim airports so maybe it wasnt americans huh! its muslims in the world helping terrorists so many condone such attacks they may not do the attacks but they help them if ya think 10% of uslims are radicalized thats a small percent but thats still 130 million so think bout even 1 percent its multiple nazi germanys thats scary

[RoadlessPath]

He may condem europe, but if the water is standing on the lips in the US. They will act the same. There are already people saying this.

[Ulrna]

@RoadlessPath Relax, Most of what is talking about is not true, and maybe he is motivated xenophobia alone.

The reason why politics and religion is interconnected in the Middle East is quite fascinating, but it is still a weak way of consolidating politics, and will not last forever, it is impossible to adopt this system. Most of Europe is atheist and hosts an educational utopia as opposed to this mentality and bias. :I

So Europe will be elitist for a long time, as it has been for millennia. ;)

[seanmPWH]

@Ulrna It will be Off with your head, infidel!

[ScandiNemo]

Mark is great! I just bought his book. Look forward to reading it.

[asunagullo]

Newtype: If you think we are going to get used to see how you, gang of abnormal, dirty killers, put bombs and kill us...you are crazy!!! Even Europeans will wake up and stop you!! There is already a clear movement against Muslims in Europe, our politicians don't want to say it in loud voice, but common people are aware you are criminals or criminals supporters. WE have seen your evil soul in your eyes, and we are not a group of faggots despite you seem to think so. YOU CAN'T WIN!

[asunagullo]

Newtype 2: We, Spanish expelled you, thank God after 7 centuries of wars and oppression. Europeans stopped you after you conquer Holly land, destroyed East Roman Empire and were close to destroy our culture and civilization. Muslims' obsession with killing non Muslims is not connected with USA bases, you son of a bitch! You killed my people in Madrid, NY, UK, etc... and there is NO EXCUSE OR JUSTIFICATION for it. But if you go on this way you will get a "proportional answer": war & destruction

[asunagullo]

Newtype64: I see you have delated your message. I guess it was too stupid even for yourself. Muslims started killing non Muslims in order to spread your dirty cult centuries before USA or USA's bases existed. You destroyed all what was civilized, you imposed your cult on Persas, Egyptians, Turks, all Arabs and half Africans. You conquered Spain, got to France, Hungry, Bulgary, part of Greek, and were at the doors of Viena. You want to see the world under Islamic oppression, THAT IS THE SAD TRUTH

[asunagullo]

If anybody thinks Spanish people will accept the impoosition of Islam over us, they should go & read about 1812 war, and how what Napoleon called " A gang of religious, dirty, violent, people, men & women, children & elders behaved as a single man, a man of honour & defeated the most powerful army in the world"...we have a historical memory about Muslims, it is in our language, our culture, our history, our literacy. We will not become slaves..Besides we are not as "civilised" as Swiss :-)

[islamsucksallah]

Fuck islam up allah's ass. Kill this psychotic cult of death, then the world will be totally free.

[piromx2]

fuck his gay book that i'll burn in my fire place just to heat up the house because thats all his book is good for!

[newtype64]

How is FORCING democracy on people freedom? How is FORCING someone to do anything against their will just? Did anyone FORCE America to end slavery or segragation? NO! People change when they get good and ready to do so.

[dresden451]

Unfortunately, in the meantime, some women never get to feel the light of the sun on their face.

[newtype64]

Those women don't need to feel sun on their face, they are too busy feeling Americas bullets and fire balls on their faces. God save Afghanistan from American "freedom"!

[dresden451]

Uh-huh.

[asunagullo]

I think you have missed the point; what they feel is their husband beats, their parent's greedy selling them as "wives", that is exual slaves at the age of 8, 9 or 12.. the bruises and blue eyes their men provide them, they exhausting hard work from day light to nigh, being treated as slaves, being killed for "honour" reasons, being treated as cattle... and that is not done by Americans, dear biggot but by their own men.. the ones who love them so much they believe they must hide them from life

[newtype64]

I didn't miss the point. Cultural customs, traditions are not the same as Islam. Just because you chose to belive these silly sterotypes does not make this Islamic. By the way I can tel by our spelling you are not American. However I am American and American men can be veryh disrespectful and sexist aginst women. Yes, abuse and violence aginst women is very common. That is why every major city in America has a womens shelter.

[asunagullo]

If you believe the way men treat women in muslim countries is a sterotype you are the one who is silly+illiterate. I've seen it with my own eyes:in Morocco, Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan. It is not a sterotype or a joke! Traditions are different between civilised countries, as yours & mine, but values are the same. We don't have "Thanks giving day" & you don't have "The 3 wise men" but none of us enslave women, hang gays or have a evil law, Sharia, which praises women's inferiority before the law.

[asunagullo]

2-The fact that everybody has the right to think as he wants, doesn't mean all ideas deserve respect, some are despicable as treating women as second class citizens, beating them, covering them, giving them in marriage at tender ages, or sexual-mutilating them. These are not "traditions" but depicable crimes.

NO, dear, I am not American, and I may make some misspelling, so if you prefer we can talk in Spanish...clever boy!

[asunagullo]

3-I have lived in USA & EU, if you are trying to compare USA with ANY Muslim country either you are stupid, a lier, or a Muslim, or the 3 things. USA is a free country; women have exactly the same rights as men have. The fact there is violence against women, men or private property, doesn't mean that the society accepts it or supports it. THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE. There are no women's shelters in Saudi Arabia because women can't escape from their husband or father... they belong to them.

[asunagullo]

Well, people can live in middle ages, or stone ages as native indians in South American rainforest, as long as they don't kill, torture or jeopardize others. I may disagree with their laws and traditions, but I will not get in a war to change them, but if they support Bin Laden and help him to kill my people...then I would burn to ashes that rainforest. SO as along as they don't kill my people or try to change my society towards stone ages, they can go on living in prehistory!

[cll488]

Very brave chap ....... great book!