Excuse me. I normally ignore these absurd ignorant predicaments, but with all due respect you sir are wrong. I mean, how would you like it if I used the KKK example to say that all Christains are the same? You wouldn't find it very pleasing now would you?
I'm pretty sure that in no where in the Quran is killing permitable. But if some one out there has magical glasses and some how they uncovered some kind of hidden message in the Quran, then let me know. Good luck with that.
The father had double standard, he was MARRIED and HAD CHILDREN with a non-muslim woman,....with a white woman....why his had to date exclusively Egyptian if even him was not with a Egyptian...
What beautiful girls. Girls have so much love for their daddy. They are also the most beautiful thing that can ever happen to any man. May they are born to someone who really deserves them. These 'evil muslim' give all muslims a bad name. I am a non muslim and in my culture girls are referred to as a princess or 'kaur'.
If he is Muslim it's by name and ethnicity and not by beliefs because no real Muslim would ever do this to their children and the Quran advises against this.
That was HIS CHOICE to kill his children. His choice is not at all associated with Islam or the quran's teaching. Infact if you've read the quran, or even know anything basic about islam then you'd know that muder in unpermitted and sinful under all circumstances. This just shows how judge mental and uneducated people are now adays. It only makes sense to do study a religion and then talk about it, not the other way around dear.
A man (or woman) of integrity would readily admit - due to an overwhelming preponderance of evidence - that there is a very real problem with Muslims and the violent interpretation of their faith. If you really believe what you believe - that Islam is peace, I would consider it your sacred religious duty to devote your life to enlightening your fellow Muslims to stop the killing and end their persecution of and discrimination against non-Muslims (dhimmis) and Muslim women within Darul Islam.
On the contrary, almost every time a Muslim perpetrates an act of terrorism, he shouts "Allah O'Akbar"
You see friend, we infidels now have access to the Quran, Ahadith & Sira, so we can read with our own eyes what your religion propagates. It's very clear why there are so many "misunderstanders" of Islam, because the texts say what they say, advocating violence, killing and intolerance.
Anybody can say anything they like when they kill it doesn't mean Allah told them to do it. Someone can say the same thing about Jesus when they do that. Anybody has access to the Quran and Hadith and you also have the same access to hate on it for your own specific agenda. The religion advocates for peace and to help everybody. It's on the contrary of what you have to say. The more you post, the more people will see the truth about the peace of Islam. Thank you.
to hell with religion ! these sweet young girls were murdered..find the asshole who killed them
there's only enough religion to make man hate one another, but not enough to make them love..religion = separation... you separate from man ! you're separated from God...dump all religions..to hell with a book ! keep your relationship with God personal..no religious book is Gods true words nowadays
You sir or ma'am are one wrong individual. In short terms, all I can say is that your judging a religioin by what the minority are doing. The KKK does a lot of wrong things in the name of "GOD," you don't see me claiming that the Bible "[advocates] violence, killing and intolerance." If you know so much about the Quran, how about you tell me where the Quran says it's permitable to kill?
Muslims kill over and over in the name of Allah...and it's always because they "misunderstand"... ever wonder why your religion causes so much "misunderstanding"? Study the Quran, the Ahadith and the Sira with an objetive mind and you'll understand.
I find it interesting is that people like you who insist "Islam is peace" spend all your time trying to convince gullible infidels instead of your co-religionists who are doing the actual killing in the name of Allah.
Nobody kills anybody in the name of Allah. Nobody should misunderstand because the message of peace is completely clear. And not only do I tell non-Muslims that Islam is peace I do speak with those Muslims who have a backward mentality themselves. You do not know me. There are many Muslim people doing bad things that aren't even allowed in the Quran, I am not encouraging it, I am encouraging them to stop and showing Non Muslims we are not bad. Stop false advertising, Islam is peace.
Again, you refuse to submit any empirical evidence refuting the quote from Umdat al Salik...just denials based on opinion. For the record, saying something is "fact" doesn't necessarily make it so.
But I'll let you have the last word, because I know the supremacism of your religion demands it. I wish you the best and hope you'll someday transcend the intolerance and demands for mindless obedience that are promulgated in the Quran and the Ahadith.
Just because you get wrong information and believe its a fact doesn't mean so. I'm not a scholar in Islam but I do know it doesn't allow this. Billions of muslims on earth, there's very few who are doing this and giving everybody else bad representation. You hate Islam, and you'll do anything you can to bash. And I don't need the last word, it's not like you've said anything against the religion that's actually true. Go do some actual research, hater websites aren't helping your argument.
And by the way, instead of bashing Islam, you should try putting the blame on Yasser Said, the person who actually did the crime. He doesn't even know about Islam. Just because he's an Arab you think he's Muslim. Arab culture and Islam aren't the same thing. Get your facts straight. Read these texts in Arabic, and if anything says something peculiar like whatever you're posting and isn't supported by the Quran it doesn't matter who made it, it's invalid. But I am pretty sure its either wrong or
you are getting it from a place that gets these texts out of context cause they themselves don't understand. Nobody would ever convert to a religion that calls for someone to kill their innocent sons or daughters. It doesn't even say that and I've read the Quran. You just go pick up Yusuf Ali without any previous idea and read and formulate your own opinions. It's like a student trying to learn something without a teacher, it's different. The Prophet pbuh told people to respect their kids and
take care of them. He never once did this nor told anybody to do this. Stop blaming Islam for what backward people are doing. The whole reason the religion came is to help us out to make us do better things so that stuff like this doesn't happen. Yet people still try and justify anything they do with religion. Remember Amina and Sarah Said instead of bashing the religion, because if the dad would have truly followed Islam this would never had happened. I hope those girls are resting in peace.
Don't tell anybody about what they believe. We Muslims know 100% that Islam tells people to take care of their family, son and daughters, and even if they like somebody there shouldn't ever, ever, ever, be a point where they do this. Because anyone has the right to crush on anybody, and if they like each other then the parents should talk to them and just find out the situation rather than taking their lives away. It's so unfair what happened to them. And to see you trying to put blame on Islam
rather than him himself is really unfair. The Islamic religion is peace. And I don't hate anybody that's not Muslim, you are putting words in mouth. Religion is very personal and everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I don't go around asking what people believe and getting angry with them or doing anything bad. People need to learn to accept differences and move along in their lives. Focus on the self and becoming a better person should be a priority instead of every thing else. Peace.
I have produced a quote from a classical manual of Islamic jurisprudence absolving parents from retribution for killing their children. Your own insistence that this quote is wrong is based on opinion, not empirical evidence.
"Islam is peace" is a slogan, nothing more. Surah's 8 and 9 clearly indicate the Quran is a manual for war. But I don't expect you to comprehend. You're a Muslim, born into the faith and thus thoroughly brainwashed. Someday, you may find the courage to see the truth.
It's not opinion, it's fact. Islam doesn't allow anybody to kill anybody like this. There is no way possible for this to be allowed, stop giving false advertisement about Islam. Islam is peace whether you like it or not, that's your problem. Surah 8 and 9 are used by Islamic haters to try and bash Islam, when really they don't read TASFIR or understand it exactly, they go to their hating websites. I'm not brainwashed, and I wasn't born into the religion neither, so stop assuming things.
Umdat al Salik is a classical manual for Islamic jurisprudence...and you never heard of it. It's quite evident you know very little about your faith. Google it and go to an ISLAMIC website to validate the quote absolving parents from retribution for killing their children.
As for my "hating Islam", this is projection on your part; since you hate Kaffirs, you assume we hate you. But we don't. We just view Islam through the prism of empirical evidence, not through blind faith.
There are four madhabs of Sunni Islam. It's not evident at all I know little about my faith, I know anything that says killing your children is fine doesn't have anything to do with Islam. Islam teaches against that. You need to read tasfir of Quran and explanations of hadiths, because the websites you're getting this from isn't doing a good job. And I don't hate Non Muslims, stop putting words in my mouth. You think you know Islam. Islam is peace.
I see. A classical manual for Islamic jurisprudence is wrong, but you are right? You are either ignorant about your own faith....or in denial. But hopefully, with time, you'll come to understand the truth.
It's either mistranslated, unauthentic, not Sahih, or out of context and provided to you by anti Islamic websites. Every Muslim knows this isn't true. Anything that goes against Quran isn't a valid source. Islam doesn't allow this. You're in denial and believe anything from the people you agree with. You hate Islam and come here to bash. These fools weren't even Muslim, they were Arab.
If Islam is "a way of life" as Muslims proudly proclaim, than why is it these same Muslims constantly try to excuse the pathologies that exist in their societies as "cultural". Islam pervades every facet of life, therefore, the culture IS Islam.
The Prophet peace be upon him himself said to take whats good from a culture and leave whats bad. Islam is a way of life/religion, not culture, and this isn't allowed in Islam.
"retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right; not subject to retaliation is a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring."
Islamic law exempts parents and grandparents from punishment for murdering their children or grand children.
Islamic law doesn't allow anybody to do this. You hate Islam and you'll blame Islam for anything. This guy didn't follow Quran or Hadith. You just copy and paste from anti Islamic websites. It's no use.
No denial. The Prophet peace be upon him never let anybody kill their daughters or sons and get away with it. That's ridiculous, and it's just automatic that any text that says otherwise isn't legit. This is from the Quran, so stop trying.
This happens everyday in the Middle-East, do not try to justify or dismiss these actions. These mother fuckers that do this kind of thing are not human. You ignorant fucking people try to portray them all as "poor, innocent people, who just want peace." when the fact is they have been killing each other since the beginning of time justifying it in the name of religion. I have been to Iraq and Afghanistan, I've lived and fought with these "people". There are good people, but they are few in #.
That is dumb whatever he has said. Half of them twist whatever they want to match their ideology. We are supposed to live, that is why we are here. There are good Muslims everywhere, this thing has to do with culture, I advise you to read up on it.
His daughters were beautiful, I hope he gets what he deserves for taking their lives for just being normal human beings.
DarKKnightt07 4 months ago
@vegas1joker u can rot in hell with yasser u fuckin sicko!
jenny19918 5 months ago
Yasser you are my hero
Vegas1Joker 7 months ago
This breaks my heart
lovepoison102 9 months ago
another muslim animal killing his family in the name of the religion of death.
all of the muslims are the same.
Scrambler85 9 months ago
@Scrambler85
Excuse me. I normally ignore these absurd ignorant predicaments, but with all due respect you sir are wrong. I mean, how would you like it if I used the KKK example to say that all Christains are the same? You wouldn't find it very pleasing now would you?
I'm pretty sure that in no where in the Quran is killing permitable. But if some one out there has magical glasses and some how they uncovered some kind of hidden message in the Quran, then let me know. Good luck with that.
scarierthantheIRS 4 months ago
sand niggers disgust me. ruining the islamic faith.
ice1515151 1 year ago
The father had double standard, he was MARRIED and HAD CHILDREN with a non-muslim woman,....with a white woman....why his had to date exclusively Egyptian if even him was not with a Egyptian...
123nina 1 year ago
What beautiful girls. Girls have so much love for their daddy. They are also the most beautiful thing that can ever happen to any man. May they are born to someone who really deserves them. These 'evil muslim' give all muslims a bad name. I am a non muslim and in my culture girls are referred to as a princess or 'kaur'.
gsb1108 1 year ago
fucking disgusting sand niggers
paydafee 1 year ago
he was muslim
the only reason he killed them was because they had non muslim boyfriends. the boyfriends were both christian
queenAPvista 2 years ago 4
If he is Muslim it's by name and ethnicity and not by beliefs because no real Muslim would ever do this to their children and the Quran advises against this.
themachine91090 2 years ago
@queenAPvista
That was HIS CHOICE to kill his children. His choice is not at all associated with Islam or the quran's teaching. Infact if you've read the quran, or even know anything basic about islam then you'd know that muder in unpermitted and sinful under all circumstances. This just shows how judge mental and uneducated people are now adays. It only makes sense to do study a religion and then talk about it, not the other way around dear.
scarierthantheIRS 4 months ago
A man (or woman) of integrity would readily admit - due to an overwhelming preponderance of evidence - that there is a very real problem with Muslims and the violent interpretation of their faith. If you really believe what you believe - that Islam is peace, I would consider it your sacred religious duty to devote your life to enlightening your fellow Muslims to stop the killing and end their persecution of and discrimination against non-Muslims (dhimmis) and Muslim women within Darul Islam.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
"Nobody kills anybody in the name of Allah."
On the contrary, almost every time a Muslim perpetrates an act of terrorism, he shouts "Allah O'Akbar"
You see friend, we infidels now have access to the Quran, Ahadith & Sira, so we can read with our own eyes what your religion propagates. It's very clear why there are so many "misunderstanders" of Islam, because the texts say what they say, advocating violence, killing and intolerance.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
Anybody can say anything they like when they kill it doesn't mean Allah told them to do it. Someone can say the same thing about Jesus when they do that. Anybody has access to the Quran and Hadith and you also have the same access to hate on it for your own specific agenda. The religion advocates for peace and to help everybody. It's on the contrary of what you have to say. The more you post, the more people will see the truth about the peace of Islam. Thank you.
themachine91090 2 years ago
to hell with religion ! these sweet young girls were murdered..find the asshole who killed them
there's only enough religion to make man hate one another, but not enough to make them love..religion = separation... you separate from man ! you're separated from God...dump all religions..to hell with a book ! keep your relationship with God personal..no religious book is Gods true words nowadays
R.I.P. Amina & Sarah
gmccall22 2 years ago
@truculantmuse
You sir or ma'am are one wrong individual. In short terms, all I can say is that your judging a religioin by what the minority are doing. The KKK does a lot of wrong things in the name of "GOD," you don't see me claiming that the Bible "[advocates] violence, killing and intolerance." If you know so much about the Quran, how about you tell me where the Quran says it's permitable to kill?
scarierthantheIRS 4 months ago
Muslims kill over and over in the name of Allah...and it's always because they "misunderstand"... ever wonder why your religion causes so much "misunderstanding"? Study the Quran, the Ahadith and the Sira with an objetive mind and you'll understand.
I find it interesting is that people like you who insist "Islam is peace" spend all your time trying to convince gullible infidels instead of your co-religionists who are doing the actual killing in the name of Allah.
truculantmuse 2 years ago 2
Nobody kills anybody in the name of Allah. Nobody should misunderstand because the message of peace is completely clear. And not only do I tell non-Muslims that Islam is peace I do speak with those Muslims who have a backward mentality themselves. You do not know me. There are many Muslim people doing bad things that aren't even allowed in the Quran, I am not encouraging it, I am encouraging them to stop and showing Non Muslims we are not bad. Stop false advertising, Islam is peace.
themachine91090 2 years ago
Very good reply..
scottishtothebone 1 year ago
Again, you refuse to submit any empirical evidence refuting the quote from Umdat al Salik...just denials based on opinion. For the record, saying something is "fact" doesn't necessarily make it so.
But I'll let you have the last word, because I know the supremacism of your religion demands it. I wish you the best and hope you'll someday transcend the intolerance and demands for mindless obedience that are promulgated in the Quran and the Ahadith.
Peace.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
Just because you get wrong information and believe its a fact doesn't mean so. I'm not a scholar in Islam but I do know it doesn't allow this. Billions of muslims on earth, there's very few who are doing this and giving everybody else bad representation. You hate Islam, and you'll do anything you can to bash. And I don't need the last word, it's not like you've said anything against the religion that's actually true. Go do some actual research, hater websites aren't helping your argument.
themachine91090 2 years ago
And by the way, instead of bashing Islam, you should try putting the blame on Yasser Said, the person who actually did the crime. He doesn't even know about Islam. Just because he's an Arab you think he's Muslim. Arab culture and Islam aren't the same thing. Get your facts straight. Read these texts in Arabic, and if anything says something peculiar like whatever you're posting and isn't supported by the Quran it doesn't matter who made it, it's invalid. But I am pretty sure its either wrong or
themachine91090 2 years ago
you are getting it from a place that gets these texts out of context cause they themselves don't understand. Nobody would ever convert to a religion that calls for someone to kill their innocent sons or daughters. It doesn't even say that and I've read the Quran. You just go pick up Yusuf Ali without any previous idea and read and formulate your own opinions. It's like a student trying to learn something without a teacher, it's different. The Prophet pbuh told people to respect their kids and
themachine91090 2 years ago
take care of them. He never once did this nor told anybody to do this. Stop blaming Islam for what backward people are doing. The whole reason the religion came is to help us out to make us do better things so that stuff like this doesn't happen. Yet people still try and justify anything they do with religion. Remember Amina and Sarah Said instead of bashing the religion, because if the dad would have truly followed Islam this would never had happened. I hope those girls are resting in peace.
themachine91090 2 years ago
Don't tell anybody about what they believe. We Muslims know 100% that Islam tells people to take care of their family, son and daughters, and even if they like somebody there shouldn't ever, ever, ever, be a point where they do this. Because anyone has the right to crush on anybody, and if they like each other then the parents should talk to them and just find out the situation rather than taking their lives away. It's so unfair what happened to them. And to see you trying to put blame on Islam
themachine91090 2 years ago
rather than him himself is really unfair. The Islamic religion is peace. And I don't hate anybody that's not Muslim, you are putting words in mouth. Religion is very personal and everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I don't go around asking what people believe and getting angry with them or doing anything bad. People need to learn to accept differences and move along in their lives. Focus on the self and becoming a better person should be a priority instead of every thing else. Peace.
themachine91090 2 years ago
I have produced a quote from a classical manual of Islamic jurisprudence absolving parents from retribution for killing their children. Your own insistence that this quote is wrong is based on opinion, not empirical evidence.
"Islam is peace" is a slogan, nothing more. Surah's 8 and 9 clearly indicate the Quran is a manual for war. But I don't expect you to comprehend. You're a Muslim, born into the faith and thus thoroughly brainwashed. Someday, you may find the courage to see the truth.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
It's not opinion, it's fact. Islam doesn't allow anybody to kill anybody like this. There is no way possible for this to be allowed, stop giving false advertisement about Islam. Islam is peace whether you like it or not, that's your problem. Surah 8 and 9 are used by Islamic haters to try and bash Islam, when really they don't read TASFIR or understand it exactly, they go to their hating websites. I'm not brainwashed, and I wasn't born into the religion neither, so stop assuming things.
themachine91090 2 years ago
Umdat al Salik is a classical manual for Islamic jurisprudence...and you never heard of it. It's quite evident you know very little about your faith. Google it and go to an ISLAMIC website to validate the quote absolving parents from retribution for killing their children.
As for my "hating Islam", this is projection on your part; since you hate Kaffirs, you assume we hate you. But we don't. We just view Islam through the prism of empirical evidence, not through blind faith.
Peace.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
There are four madhabs of Sunni Islam. It's not evident at all I know little about my faith, I know anything that says killing your children is fine doesn't have anything to do with Islam. Islam teaches against that. You need to read tasfir of Quran and explanations of hadiths, because the websites you're getting this from isn't doing a good job. And I don't hate Non Muslims, stop putting words in my mouth. You think you know Islam. Islam is peace.
themachine91090 2 years ago
I see. A classical manual for Islamic jurisprudence is wrong, but you are right? You are either ignorant about your own faith....or in denial. But hopefully, with time, you'll come to understand the truth.
Peace.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
It's either mistranslated, unauthentic, not Sahih, or out of context and provided to you by anti Islamic websites. Every Muslim knows this isn't true. Anything that goes against Quran isn't a valid source. Islam doesn't allow this. You're in denial and believe anything from the people you agree with. You hate Islam and come here to bash. These fools weren't even Muslim, they were Arab.
themachine91090 2 years ago
You can't tell the difference. It's you who are backward. Get a life. Muslims are peaceful and we're tired of being blamed for things.
themachine91090 2 years ago
If Islam is "a way of life" as Muslims proudly proclaim, than why is it these same Muslims constantly try to excuse the pathologies that exist in their societies as "cultural". Islam pervades every facet of life, therefore, the culture IS Islam.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
The Prophet peace be upon him himself said to take whats good from a culture and leave whats bad. Islam is a way of life/religion, not culture, and this isn't allowed in Islam.
themachine91090 2 years ago
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UMDAT AL-SALIK 1.1-2:
"retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right; not subject to retaliation is a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring."
Islamic law exempts parents and grandparents from punishment for murdering their children or grand children.
The truth hurts.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
Islamic law doesn't allow anybody to do this. You hate Islam and you'll blame Islam for anything. This guy didn't follow Quran or Hadith. You just copy and paste from anti Islamic websites. It's no use.
themachine91090 2 years ago
You are in deep denial about your own religion. 'Umdat al Salik is a classical manual of fiqh for the Shafi'i school of Islamic jurisprudence.
truculantmuse 2 years ago
No denial. The Prophet peace be upon him never let anybody kill their daughters or sons and get away with it. That's ridiculous, and it's just automatic that any text that says otherwise isn't legit. This is from the Quran, so stop trying.
themachine91090 2 years ago
1#Honour Killings
HorseSucker1 2 years ago
This happens everyday in the Middle-East, do not try to justify or dismiss these actions. These mother fuckers that do this kind of thing are not human. You ignorant fucking people try to portray them all as "poor, innocent people, who just want peace." when the fact is they have been killing each other since the beginning of time justifying it in the name of religion. I have been to Iraq and Afghanistan, I've lived and fought with these "people". There are good people, but they are few in #.
rienhart62 2 years ago
Whoever does it is wrong, simple as that.
themachine91090 2 years ago
Abd Al-Hamid Al Ansari (UAE TV, 2005)
Former Dean of Islamic Law, Qatar University
"We have not succeeded in making our children love life. We have taught them
how to die for the sake of allah, but we haven't taught them how to live for the
sake of allah."
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
That is dumb whatever he has said. Half of them twist whatever they want to match their ideology. We are supposed to live, that is why we are here. There are good Muslims everywhere, this thing has to do with culture, I advise you to read up on it.
themachine91090 2 years ago
Abd Al-Hamid Al-Ansari (former dean of Islamic Law,2005)(He's being interviewed)
"Our satellite channels deserve the name, 'Media of Terrorism'. They spread
among the youth. Ideas that might not be considered out right terrorism. But
spread extremism, such extremism is the beginning of violence & fanaticism
& violence leads to terrorism. Fanaticism - extremism - violence - terrorism"
jefeisdguard 2 years ago