@sunnsu WHY DONT YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH. YOU THINK HINDUS GET ANGRY SO EASILY? WE HAVE TONS OF PATIENCE. YOUR MISSIONAIRES GO ABOUT ABUSING HINDU GODS.. HAS ANY HINDU GURU SAID SOMETHING LIKE '' JESUS USED TO HAVE SEX WITH MARY '' THIS IS THE KIND OF NONSENSE WAS PRINTED ACTUALLY PRINTED BY CHRITIAN MIS ABT HINDU GODS. THIS IS JUST ONE THING. THEY DID TEN SUCH THINGS THEN WE HINDU NATIONAISTS GOT ANGRY. I DONT THINK IT WAS RIGHT STILL TO ATTACK CHRITTIANS. ACTUALLY HAD TO ATTACK ONLY CHRITIAN MISS
@Aditi11indiangirl ??? Christ gets abused, maligned, blasphemed all the time by EVERYONE... You do not see Christians running around attacking people for it, that is no excuse to kill or hurt another. Please research how many Christians get persecuted every year in India. And then look to see how many Christians do physical harm to hindu's... In fact instead you will see the Christian missionaries helping the poor, the orphaned, the old, the widows all hindu. Is that so horrible?
@sunnsu YOU R RIGHT. YOU DONT ATTACK LIKE MUSLIMS. YOU ARE MUCH BETTER.BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW SENSITIVE NOW HINDUS HAVE BECOME. FROM LAST 1000 YRS FIRST MUSLIMS AND THEN BRITISH TRYED THERE BEST TO DESTRY OUR CULTURE OUR IDENTITY OUR BHARAT VARSH. SO NOW WE CANNOT TOLERATE ANYONE TRYING TO DESTROY PLURALISM OF THIS LAND... YOU CANNOT COME HERE AND PREACH NONSENSE LIKE '' THERE IS NO LORD BUT JESUS'' ONLY CHRITIANS GO TO HEAVEN REST GO TO HELL'' THIS IS NEVER GOING TO BRING WORLD PEACE
@Aditi11indiangirl So let me get this right. Hindus come to US, Britain, Canada, & can proselytize as much as they want, Christians do not persecute them, hurt them, rape them, or kill them, we give them to freedom to do what they want & live in peace. But Christians are not afforded the same rights in India? Its ok that they are killed, their churches are burned down and families a forced to convert to Hindu because they preach and believe there is one way to Heaven through faith in Jesus?
@sunnsu pls understand,hindus dont abuse jesus NO matter what. MISSINARIES ABUSE HINDU GODS. CASE CLOSED. CHRITIANITY TAUGHT BY MISSIONARIES IS AGGRESSIVE AND INHUMAN.THIS IS WHY MOST OF AMERICA AND EUROPE IS ATHIST.I REPEAT. HINDU GURUS DONT ABUSE JESUS, DO NOT USE MONEY TO CONVERT N THEY DONT ENTER US WITH PLAN TO CONVERT WHOLE AMERICA BUT CHRISTIAN MIS ATTACK AND ABUSE HINDU GODS AND EVEN RELEASE MATERIAL TO ABUSE THEM. IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THIS MAJOR DIFFIRENCE THEN I CANT HELP YOU. BYE.
@sunnsu AND REGARDING GETTING AGRRESSIVE. I HAD SAID WE SHOULD HAVE NOT ATTACKED CHURCH OR CHRISTIANS...WE SHOULD HAVE ONLY ATACKED CHRITIAN MISSIONARIES. THEY ARE THE REAL CULPRITS NOT CHRITIANS NOT JESUS. HINDUS HAVE ALWAYS SEEN JESUS AS AVATAR OF SUPER CONCIOUSNESS LIKE KRISHNA. BUT ITS THE CHRITIAN MISSIONAIRES WHO MADE EUROPE HELL FROM 500 TO 1500 AD. THEN EUROPE BECAME ATHIST AND BECAME FREE FROM TORTURE OF MIS.THIS IS THE TRUTH. BYE. I WONT ARGUE WITH YOU NOW.
@Aditi11indiangirl WHAT? You should attack defenseless Christian missionaries? You sound like a Muslim extremist, with this kind of statement you validate my points. Words no matter how upsetting are not cause to kill, ever
Your comment about using money to convert is ridiculous, No man will stay a Christian for simply money. Actually Christians give their own money both rich & poor. If you think people are Christian because of money then why do they choose persecution over denying Jesus?
@Aditi11indiangirl Also read your history, Catholics did the vile acts during the middle ages not Christians. TYey are not the same, true Christians follow the Bible. Catholics follow the Pope, they bow to idols, they believe in performing rituals to be saved. true Christians look to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ & his Gospel
If you would like to really understand what Christians believe and what the Gospel is this Y/T vid will show you /watch?v=4SdTDcwvxbw&feature=channel_video_title
I am a proud Hindu from India, and I believe that Lord Jesus is one of the Greatest Teachers (Gurus) of the world as said by ISKCON's Founder. But, the problem with some of the christians in india is they are indulging in conversion activities targetting those who are financially weak and this is the only thing which is creating a hatred between some Christians and Hindus. Anyway, I love all Nice people (Except Muslims) irrespective of their religion, background, race etc.
2. To do this rectification, Indian youth must study Sw. Vivekananda's teachings.aimed at ALL MANKIND. Indian youth can then know that they have a great job, to restore spirituality among the affluent(Indians & Weserners), AND to root out poverty as the FIRST STEP to bring spirituality to the poor in India.This requires massive organisation & dedicated work. Most present day Swamis preach futile spirituality which is self-centred for individuals for Moksha which can never come from selfishness.
Over 2 centuries of slavery to theBritish have made Indians incapable of their independent creative thinking.Indians enjoy condemning their own heritage,and 99% of the intelligentsia is bred in the Western indoctrination on the superiority of West in every field. Secularism as practised in India is a Western concept which is largely responsible for the chaos and disharmony and high crime rates in the West despite high materialistic standards. Indian youth must wake up and rectify this imbalance.
8. HINDU (AND OTHER NATIVE RELIGIOUS) COMMUNITY MUST MOBILIZE FUNDS AND OTHER RESOURCES TO FIGHT THE HIGHLY INCREASED MISSIONARY ONSLAUGHTS TO UPLIFT THE POOR AND THE SUFFERING. Both society and the religious heads have to join in this task (traditionally called Daridra Narayana sev), with a fresh re-orientation of thinking. No token but masive mobilization and organization.
@bmkaruppan,I heard the translation of the speaker in this video from a friend. I greatly appreciate and agree wih everything, and your thoughtful comments. THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES UNDUOUBTEDLY ARE EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE IN MISIONARY WORK THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, BUT THEIR WORK IS BASED ON DENIGRATION OF ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AND DESTRUCTION OF NATIVE CULTURES. They bribe the governments of countries in various ways.
(CONTD) Due to selfishness of the rulers and extensive administrative corruption, they are helped to carry out their nefarious Fascist activities due to fanaticism, or more preisely because they have a job to keep in these days of ddpression. It is very true that they are a menace like the military hawks everywhere and cause of all terrorism in the world. Human civilization has been built by various major religions, and Hinduism is perhaps the TRUEST AND ETERNALLY VALID truth for all world.
7. It has,however, the greatest benefit of innumerable public and family festivals, rituals and fiunctions, and the hugely spiritually charged temples from ancient or medieval times which have so far sustained deepest spirituality balancing maerialism. These, and hardly the easy going Swamijis (most of them), have so far sustained the flourishing of Hiduism, despite the onslaughtsof alien intolerant religions.
6. Hence the govt. tacitly expecs the Christian missionaries to do this massive work (for which funds are illegally brought by them) ! A perverse secularism provides the justificationfor this. India's religion and culture are for the benefit of all humanity if it opts voluntarily since Hinduism does not evangelize, convert, proselytise, due to its tenet that all true religious paths lead to the same spiritual goal of liberation.
5. They carry on thus, arguing that it is for the govt to discharge economic responsibilities esply. removal of material poverty, but due to colossal, universal corruption of politics and administration, these functions are discharged only on paper. .
4. No spirituality, just plain material help using Jesus' name. In the video the speaker wants this material succour to be provided, in India, by the Hindu/other native faiths' Swamijis/Sants and the Maths/ Ashrams, instead of merely providing sanctuary for a few monks to live in comfort, delivering lectures of no practical value to people but merely doling out, opium like, superficial spirituality to the materially well off and the lazy affluent.
3. People therefore have developed great revulsion at them. Churches are sold to be run as hotels. The preacher army therefore comes to the East where though religious decay is less and the cultural foundations are strong, POVERTY is widespread, and that is where "Jesus" is sold for conversion to an intolerantly fanaic religion.
2. in the West, whatever is dished out as religious solace for the masses stricken by excessive materialism, comes from preachers and missionaries, 95% of whom are are totally corrupt in their morals, and are downright hypocrites given to pleasure and ease seeking.
In the present era, religion meaning morality and ethics of individuals for ensuring orderly life and progress of society, with a fear of a superior intelligence, is dead to a svery substantial extent. This observation applies to Hinduism as much as to Christianity or other religions. But Christian missionaries are too numerous and need jobs. They do not have them in the West. .
Seriously guys, FORGET teh past, and get the fuck off of America and Christians. Most Christians don't even remeber this!@
ulw1 1 year ago
"Trickery, treachery, bribery, & bayonet, therefore, have to be used to obtain converts by The Christian Missionaries "
Now who is the propagandist? Please show me where a true Christian missionary has used a bayonet to convert anyone?
There are many persecutions of Christians in India by Hindus, families beaten, wives & daughters raped, pastors killed, homes burned.
Missionaries only wish to spread the gospel of Jesus in love to those that don't know, accepting or rejecting is up to you.
sunnsu 1 year ago
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Aditi11indiangirl 3 months ago
@sunnsu WHY DONT YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH. YOU THINK HINDUS GET ANGRY SO EASILY? WE HAVE TONS OF PATIENCE. YOUR MISSIONAIRES GO ABOUT ABUSING HINDU GODS.. HAS ANY HINDU GURU SAID SOMETHING LIKE '' JESUS USED TO HAVE SEX WITH MARY '' THIS IS THE KIND OF NONSENSE WAS PRINTED ACTUALLY PRINTED BY CHRITIAN MIS ABT HINDU GODS. THIS IS JUST ONE THING. THEY DID TEN SUCH THINGS THEN WE HINDU NATIONAISTS GOT ANGRY. I DONT THINK IT WAS RIGHT STILL TO ATTACK CHRITTIANS. ACTUALLY HAD TO ATTACK ONLY CHRITIAN MISS
Aditi11indiangirl 3 months ago
@Aditi11indiangirl ??? Christ gets abused, maligned, blasphemed all the time by EVERYONE... You do not see Christians running around attacking people for it, that is no excuse to kill or hurt another. Please research how many Christians get persecuted every year in India. And then look to see how many Christians do physical harm to hindu's... In fact instead you will see the Christian missionaries helping the poor, the orphaned, the old, the widows all hindu. Is that so horrible?
sunnsu 3 months ago
@sunnsu YOU R RIGHT. YOU DONT ATTACK LIKE MUSLIMS. YOU ARE MUCH BETTER.BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW SENSITIVE NOW HINDUS HAVE BECOME. FROM LAST 1000 YRS FIRST MUSLIMS AND THEN BRITISH TRYED THERE BEST TO DESTRY OUR CULTURE OUR IDENTITY OUR BHARAT VARSH. SO NOW WE CANNOT TOLERATE ANYONE TRYING TO DESTROY PLURALISM OF THIS LAND... YOU CANNOT COME HERE AND PREACH NONSENSE LIKE '' THERE IS NO LORD BUT JESUS'' ONLY CHRITIANS GO TO HEAVEN REST GO TO HELL'' THIS IS NEVER GOING TO BRING WORLD PEACE
Aditi11indiangirl 3 months ago
@Aditi11indiangirl So let me get this right. Hindus come to US, Britain, Canada, & can proselytize as much as they want, Christians do not persecute them, hurt them, rape them, or kill them, we give them to freedom to do what they want & live in peace. But Christians are not afforded the same rights in India? Its ok that they are killed, their churches are burned down and families a forced to convert to Hindu because they preach and believe there is one way to Heaven through faith in Jesus?
sunnsu 3 months ago
@sunnsu pls understand,hindus dont abuse jesus NO matter what. MISSINARIES ABUSE HINDU GODS. CASE CLOSED. CHRITIANITY TAUGHT BY MISSIONARIES IS AGGRESSIVE AND INHUMAN.THIS IS WHY MOST OF AMERICA AND EUROPE IS ATHIST.I REPEAT. HINDU GURUS DONT ABUSE JESUS, DO NOT USE MONEY TO CONVERT N THEY DONT ENTER US WITH PLAN TO CONVERT WHOLE AMERICA BUT CHRISTIAN MIS ATTACK AND ABUSE HINDU GODS AND EVEN RELEASE MATERIAL TO ABUSE THEM. IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THIS MAJOR DIFFIRENCE THEN I CANT HELP YOU. BYE.
Aditi11indiangirl 3 months ago
@sunnsu AND REGARDING GETTING AGRRESSIVE. I HAD SAID WE SHOULD HAVE NOT ATTACKED CHURCH OR CHRISTIANS...WE SHOULD HAVE ONLY ATACKED CHRITIAN MISSIONARIES. THEY ARE THE REAL CULPRITS NOT CHRITIANS NOT JESUS. HINDUS HAVE ALWAYS SEEN JESUS AS AVATAR OF SUPER CONCIOUSNESS LIKE KRISHNA. BUT ITS THE CHRITIAN MISSIONAIRES WHO MADE EUROPE HELL FROM 500 TO 1500 AD. THEN EUROPE BECAME ATHIST AND BECAME FREE FROM TORTURE OF MIS.THIS IS THE TRUTH. BYE. I WONT ARGUE WITH YOU NOW.
Aditi11indiangirl 3 months ago
@Aditi11indiangirl WHAT? You should attack defenseless Christian missionaries? You sound like a Muslim extremist, with this kind of statement you validate my points. Words no matter how upsetting are not cause to kill, ever
Your comment about using money to convert is ridiculous, No man will stay a Christian for simply money. Actually Christians give their own money both rich & poor. If you think people are Christian because of money then why do they choose persecution over denying Jesus?
sunnsu 3 months ago
@Aditi11indiangirl Also read your history, Catholics did the vile acts during the middle ages not Christians. TYey are not the same, true Christians follow the Bible. Catholics follow the Pope, they bow to idols, they believe in performing rituals to be saved. true Christians look to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ & his Gospel
If you would like to really understand what Christians believe and what the Gospel is this Y/T vid will show you /watch?v=4SdTDcwvxbw&feature=channel_video_title
sunnsu 3 months ago
I am a proud Hindu from India, and I believe that Lord Jesus is one of the Greatest Teachers (Gurus) of the world as said by ISKCON's Founder. But, the problem with some of the christians in india is they are indulging in conversion activities targetting those who are financially weak and this is the only thing which is creating a hatred between some Christians and Hindus. Anyway, I love all Nice people (Except Muslims) irrespective of their religion, background, race etc.
MrAryansurya 1 year ago
2. To do this rectification, Indian youth must study Sw. Vivekananda's teachings.aimed at ALL MANKIND. Indian youth can then know that they have a great job, to restore spirituality among the affluent(Indians & Weserners), AND to root out poverty as the FIRST STEP to bring spirituality to the poor in India.This requires massive organisation & dedicated work. Most present day Swamis preach futile spirituality which is self-centred for individuals for Moksha which can never come from selfishness.
paulkrist44 2 years ago
Over 2 centuries of slavery to theBritish have made Indians incapable of their independent creative thinking.Indians enjoy condemning their own heritage,and 99% of the intelligentsia is bred in the Western indoctrination on the superiority of West in every field. Secularism as practised in India is a Western concept which is largely responsible for the chaos and disharmony and high crime rates in the West despite high materialistic standards. Indian youth must wake up and rectify this imbalance.
paulkrist44 2 years ago
8. HINDU (AND OTHER NATIVE RELIGIOUS) COMMUNITY MUST MOBILIZE FUNDS AND OTHER RESOURCES TO FIGHT THE HIGHLY INCREASED MISSIONARY ONSLAUGHTS TO UPLIFT THE POOR AND THE SUFFERING. Both society and the religious heads have to join in this task (traditionally called Daridra Narayana sev), with a fresh re-orientation of thinking. No token but masive mobilization and organization.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
@bmkaruppan,I heard the translation of the speaker in this video from a friend. I greatly appreciate and agree wih everything, and your thoughtful comments. THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES UNDUOUBTEDLY ARE EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE IN MISIONARY WORK THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, BUT THEIR WORK IS BASED ON DENIGRATION OF ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AND DESTRUCTION OF NATIVE CULTURES. They bribe the governments of countries in various ways.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
(CONTD) Due to selfishness of the rulers and extensive administrative corruption, they are helped to carry out their nefarious Fascist activities due to fanaticism, or more preisely because they have a job to keep in these days of ddpression. It is very true that they are a menace like the military hawks everywhere and cause of all terrorism in the world. Human civilization has been built by various major religions, and Hinduism is perhaps the TRUEST AND ETERNALLY VALID truth for all world.
MarjorieBakre 2 years ago
7. It has,however, the greatest benefit of innumerable public and family festivals, rituals and fiunctions, and the hugely spiritually charged temples from ancient or medieval times which have so far sustained deepest spirituality balancing maerialism. These, and hardly the easy going Swamijis (most of them), have so far sustained the flourishing of Hiduism, despite the onslaughtsof alien intolerant religions.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
6. Hence the govt. tacitly expecs the Christian missionaries to do this massive work (for which funds are illegally brought by them) ! A perverse secularism provides the justificationfor this. India's religion and culture are for the benefit of all humanity if it opts voluntarily since Hinduism does not evangelize, convert, proselytise, due to its tenet that all true religious paths lead to the same spiritual goal of liberation.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
5. They carry on thus, arguing that it is for the govt to discharge economic responsibilities esply. removal of material poverty, but due to colossal, universal corruption of politics and administration, these functions are discharged only on paper. .
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
4. No spirituality, just plain material help using Jesus' name. In the video the speaker wants this material succour to be provided, in India, by the Hindu/other native faiths' Swamijis/Sants and the Maths/ Ashrams, instead of merely providing sanctuary for a few monks to live in comfort, delivering lectures of no practical value to people but merely doling out, opium like, superficial spirituality to the materially well off and the lazy affluent.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
3. People therefore have developed great revulsion at them. Churches are sold to be run as hotels. The preacher army therefore comes to the East where though religious decay is less and the cultural foundations are strong, POVERTY is widespread, and that is where "Jesus" is sold for conversion to an intolerantly fanaic religion.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
2. in the West, whatever is dished out as religious solace for the masses stricken by excessive materialism, comes from preachers and missionaries, 95% of whom are are totally corrupt in their morals, and are downright hypocrites given to pleasure and ease seeking.
bmkaruppan 2 years ago
In the present era, religion meaning morality and ethics of individuals for ensuring orderly life and progress of society, with a fear of a superior intelligence, is dead to a svery substantial extent. This observation applies to Hinduism as much as to Christianity or other religions. But Christian missionaries are too numerous and need jobs. They do not have them in the West. .
bmkaruppan 2 years ago