After the wife takes 1/8 of the wealth, there will be 7/8 left over. so when daughters take 2/3 = 4/6 and the parents of the man 1/3 = 1/6 + 1/6=2/6, they are taking it from the left 7/8 and not from the original 8/8. the wife is the first who get her share. 2/6 + 4/6 = 6/6. BTW Algebra is arabic word- Al gebra, i think u got me)
Despite all these incongruencies and errors the real problem with these laws is not the fact that they do not add up. The problem is in the inherent injustice that they embody. A fair minded person cannot avoid but to question, why daughters should receive half of what the sons receive
@MrAditya983 'why daughters should receive half of what the sons receive'
It is because women don't have equal rights under Islam. They even had to invent an Islamic version of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights so that they could get rid of the freedom and equality sections that they didn't like.
Islam is egregious - it promotes bigotry, inequality, racism, sexism and panders to the greedy and the bullies. It is hundreds of years out of date. Islam has no place in a grown-up society.
@waddletop buddy the reason for half is that in Islam woman is not liable to provide food, shelter and clothing and it is solely the man's responsibility to provide these things to his family. I can give you more details but U better search yourself!
@smnabil 'in Islam woman is not liable to provide food, shelter and clothing and it is solely the man's responsibility...'
Okay, so you admit that Islam is sexist. That is the problem. In grown-up societies, Women have the same rights as men.
Attempted emancipation under Islam would mean death to those who tried.
'equal status of individual citizens in relation to the state, equality before the law, regardless of religion, property, or other “private” characteristics of individual people.'
@waddletop You know what, the nature itself is sexist, men are stronger than women and even in the modern societies where where equality of genders is practised the average income of a man is greater than a woman why? in Olympics men and women do not compete each other because in this case women will end up with very less medals or no medals at all.
Consider all these things and you know all of them are from modern world and grown-up societies, then think about Islam.
@smnabil 'Consider all these things [men are stronger than women] and you know all of them are from modern world and grown-up societies, then think about Islam.'
Yup. just about sums it up - think about grown-up societies and then think about Islam.
Islam belongs to the first millennium: Our species is living in the third millennium.
@waddletop But U know the nature remains the same, Islam offers woman a much better and easy life...
You have your beliefs and explanations and I have mine. Personally I do respect women, and treat them equally (as U might not know the rights of humans are equal in Islam)
I think there is something that Islam offer to a woman that is missing in her life... probably this is the reason, more women converting to Islam than men.
@smnabil '(as U might not know the rights of humans are equal in Islam)'
I know that the rights of male humans in Islam are equal. I also know that the rights of female humans in Islam are equal. Unfortunately, they are not equal to each other - It is written in the Quran 4 : 34 as one example.
'I think there is something that Islam offer to a woman that is missing in her life'
Supposing she wants to drive that car she owns - arrested.
She wants a science degree - education won't allow it.
@waddletop U know what the five pillars of Islam is same for both sexes, Both r needed to accept Allah as a solely creator, pray 5 times, Fast in the month of Ramadan, give charity and pilgrimage to Makkah.
Do not mix cultures with Islam, there is no such thing in Islam, a woman can drive, can earn a degree of her choice and even can pursue a career of her choice. In fact there are some immodest things Islam doesn't allow for both men and women. There are many Muslim girls studying Science!
@smnabil 'The true definition of Qur'an is the life of holy prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he never beat his wife.'
Are we talking about the six year-old wife? - that would be child abuse, a bit like having sex with a nine year-old is called 'child abuse' (as well 'paedophilia' in any culture) don't do as Mo did.
'Buddy do not float with the media and its propaganda!'
Just reading the Quran.
As we are exchanging advice, I suggest you read the Quran - an honest reader is horrified.
@waddletop it's child abuse under your definition. if she has her menstruation the she is in puberty, meaning she can marry and have children, e:g, she is ready for childbearing.
You people make definitions based on the knowledge that "you" made through observation and "experience". This is your biggest problem, the arrogance forcing you to think you know better than the one who created you!
@9kuuby9 'it's child abuse under your definition. if she has her menstruation the she is in puberty, meaning she can marry and have children, e:g, she is ready for childbearing.'
I think that you will find that having sex with a nine-year-old is classified as child abuse. These perverts are locked away from society so that they cannot harm society more than they already have done so by having sex with an under-sixteen year-old in the first place.
@9kuuby9 Honesty is just not being disloyal to reality.
Something written can be checked by yourself - if you find what is written contradicts reality (or the understanding of reality when it was written), what is written is not the truth.
If what is written is found to be slightly in error - our understanding only grows with time. It it is found to be completely wrong, a new theory is found.
Sticking with a known untruth - such as the Quran - is arrogance. Go learn about science.
@9kuuby9 'but also you can go and test anything in the qoran. you can check if somthing is not the truth?' Salt water and sweet water not being miscible. Mm. That is a Quranic lie. Test: 1- Get some water and dissolve some salt in it. 2- Get some water without salt dissolved in it. 3- pour one of the liquids into the other. 4- stirr. 5- observe. Result, they are miscible - they do not form two layers that will not mix when stirred. Comparison - Quran says that they do not mix.
You do not understand that verse that good aperently, Use you brains just don't simpily smug it out whit an idea. It's says seas and natural barrier, not that you can replicate that can you?
Knowledge in the qoran is always right, just think about it, don't just hop off and do an experiment.; because you forgot natural and seas, now if you take just one word off the verse then it isn't correct as you did whit the experiment!
@9kuuby9 'Those "collection of stories" are called hadith is not part of the Koran!'
It is from the Quran.
So, part of the Quran are not written by Allah. How can you know any of it is if you know that at least some if it isn't - it is just made up like Chapter 18?
'1 verse can have alot of different meanings!'
Ambiguity demonstrates poor writing.
From your statement, I can only conclude that Allah is a poor writer.
@waddletop part 1 :until, when he reached the setting of the sun, the place where it sets, he found it setting in a muddy spring (‘ayn hami’a: [a spring] containing ham’a, which is black clay): its setting in a spring is [described as seen] from the perspective of the eye, for otherwise it is far larger [in size] than this world; and he found by it, that is, [by] the spring, a folk, of disbelievers. We said, ‘O Dhū’l-Qarnayn — by [means of] inspiration — either chastise,
@waddletop Because in islam the duty of a man is to give 80% of his money to the costs of food, clothes etc...This leaves him 20%
While a woman has no duties to give money for household like the men in islam.
Wich leaves 100% for the woman, So you say islam in unfair for woman?
I just disproved you!
It would be out of date if it was written by men, but is was written by god, Who made you! no one knows better than him! that's why it will be always up to date whitout a letter of change to it!
Actually, you just got owned because the example you give demonstrates that women do not have equal rights under Islam.
'It would be out of date if it was written by men, but is was written by god,'
But a few posts ago, you said that The Quran contained Hadiths (18:86 for example). Now you are saying that the sun-setting-in-a-black-spring story is what God said.
@jigglyfidda125 you must understand this share is when wife is not alive so in the verse wife is not menioned, so it is: daughters= 2/3 parents 1/3 complete but if wife survives then the case is different and the already shared 2/3 to children must be deducted 1/8 so 2/3 - 1/8 for wife and 1/3 for parents. Proof verse 4:12 starts with what happens when wife is alive her rights but 4:11 is relating to mentioned children and parents. 2/3 and 1 /3 if wife alive 2/3-1/8 and 1/3 for parents.
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After the wife takes 1/8 of the wealth, there will be 7/8 left over. so when daughters take 2/3 = 4/6 and the parents of the man 1/3 = 1/6 + 1/6=2/6, they are taking it from the left 7/8 and not from the original 8/8. the wife is the first who get her share. 2/6 + 4/6 = 6/6. BTW Algebra is arabic word- Al gebra, i think u got me)
TheCaucasianEagle 3 months ago
looks like wrong information .I havent seen this in Quran.give your references atleast bro.
smartttt1000 4 months ago
We all know that Allah was crap at maths - he could make men and women have equal rights for a start (doesn't know what equal means).
Here is another example of Allah being crap at maths -
' Husband, sister, mother 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/3 = 8/6 = 4/3 = 1 + 1/3'
answering dash islam dot org slash Quran slash Contra slash i001 dot html
with other examples
waddletop 5 months ago
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TheCaucasianEagle 3 months ago
And they tarried in their cave three hundred years and added nine. (25 Al-Kahf)
Why ALLAH for no said 309 years? said 300 + 9 years ?
Moon Years = 354 days
Sun Years = 365 days
365 - 354 = 11 days difference
300 years = 11 X 300 = 3300 Days difference
3300 / 354 = 9 years difference
Sun years = 300 years , moon years = 309 years
Sorry i am bad english.
ozboluk 8 months ago 2
Despite all these incongruencies and errors the real problem with these laws is not the fact that they do not add up. The problem is in the inherent injustice that they embody. A fair minded person cannot avoid but to question, why daughters should receive half of what the sons receive
MrAditya983 9 months ago
@MrAditya983 'why daughters should receive half of what the sons receive'
It is because women don't have equal rights under Islam. They even had to invent an Islamic version of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights so that they could get rid of the freedom and equality sections that they didn't like.
Islam is egregious - it promotes bigotry, inequality, racism, sexism and panders to the greedy and the bullies. It is hundreds of years out of date. Islam has no place in a grown-up society.
waddletop 6 months ago
@waddletop buddy the reason for half is that in Islam woman is not liable to provide food, shelter and clothing and it is solely the man's responsibility to provide these things to his family. I can give you more details but U better search yourself!
smnabil 5 months ago
@smnabil 'in Islam woman is not liable to provide food, shelter and clothing and it is solely the man's responsibility...'
Okay, so you admit that Islam is sexist. That is the problem. In grown-up societies, Women have the same rights as men.
Attempted emancipation under Islam would mean death to those who tried.
'equal status of individual citizens in relation to the state, equality before the law, regardless of religion, property, or other “private” characteristics of individual people.'
waddletop 5 months ago
@waddletop You know what, the nature itself is sexist, men are stronger than women and even in the modern societies where where equality of genders is practised the average income of a man is greater than a woman why? in Olympics men and women do not compete each other because in this case women will end up with very less medals or no medals at all.
Consider all these things and you know all of them are from modern world and grown-up societies, then think about Islam.
smnabil 5 months ago
@smnabil 'Consider all these things [men are stronger than women] and you know all of them are from modern world and grown-up societies, then think about Islam.'
Yup. just about sums it up - think about grown-up societies and then think about Islam.
Islam belongs to the first millennium: Our species is living in the third millennium.
waddletop 5 months ago
@waddletop But U know the nature remains the same, Islam offers woman a much better and easy life...
You have your beliefs and explanations and I have mine. Personally I do respect women, and treat them equally (as U might not know the rights of humans are equal in Islam)
I think there is something that Islam offer to a woman that is missing in her life... probably this is the reason, more women converting to Islam than men.
smnabil 5 months ago
@smnabil '(as U might not know the rights of humans are equal in Islam)'
I know that the rights of male humans in Islam are equal. I also know that the rights of female humans in Islam are equal. Unfortunately, they are not equal to each other - It is written in the Quran 4 : 34 as one example.
'I think there is something that Islam offer to a woman that is missing in her life'
Supposing she wants to drive that car she owns - arrested.
She wants a science degree - education won't allow it.
waddletop 5 months ago
@waddletop U know what the five pillars of Islam is same for both sexes, Both r needed to accept Allah as a solely creator, pray 5 times, Fast in the month of Ramadan, give charity and pilgrimage to Makkah.
Do not mix cultures with Islam, there is no such thing in Islam, a woman can drive, can earn a degree of her choice and even can pursue a career of her choice. In fact there are some immodest things Islam doesn't allow for both men and women. There are many Muslim girls studying Science!
smnabil 5 months ago
@smnabil 'Do not mix cultures with Islam'
No. In the Quran, it states that a man can beat her wife but it doesn't say that she can beat him.
Five pillars do not equality make.
waddletop 5 months ago
@waddletop The true definition of Qur'an is the life of holy prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he never beat his wife.
Buddy do not float with the media and its propaganda!
watch this /watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY
smnabil 5 months ago
@smnabil 'The true definition of Qur'an is the life of holy prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he never beat his wife.'
Are we talking about the six year-old wife? - that would be child abuse, a bit like having sex with a nine year-old is called 'child abuse' (as well 'paedophilia' in any culture) don't do as Mo did.
'Buddy do not float with the media and its propaganda!'
Just reading the Quran.
As we are exchanging advice, I suggest you read the Quran - an honest reader is horrified.
waddletop 5 months ago
@waddletop Indeed, an honest reader will horrified and come to Islam after reading the Qur'an. I liked ur suggestion and suggesting you the same.
smnabil 5 months ago
@waddletop it's child abuse under your definition. if she has her menstruation the she is in puberty, meaning she can marry and have children, e:g, she is ready for childbearing.
You people make definitions based on the knowledge that "you" made through observation and "experience". This is your biggest problem, the arrogance forcing you to think you know better than the one who created you!
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@9kuuby9 'it's child abuse under your definition. if she has her menstruation the she is in puberty, meaning she can marry and have children, e:g, she is ready for childbearing.'
I think that you will find that having sex with a nine-year-old is classified as child abuse. These perverts are locked away from society so that they cannot harm society more than they already have done so by having sex with an under-sixteen year-old in the first place.
waddletop 2 months ago
@waddletop aigan what do means under the term "honest" ?
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@9kuuby9 Honesty is just not being disloyal to reality.
Something written can be checked by yourself - if you find what is written contradicts reality (or the understanding of reality when it was written), what is written is not the truth.
If what is written is found to be slightly in error - our understanding only grows with time. It it is found to be completely wrong, a new theory is found.
Sticking with a known untruth - such as the Quran - is arrogance. Go learn about science.
waddletop 2 months ago
@waddletop Quran teaches science of the hightest degree!
Not only are they true facts that you can rely on but also you can go and test anything in the qoran. you can check if somthing is not the truth?
"slightly in error", Sir, I can guarantee you that you can't even understand a 1/20 of the qoran!
Let alone determine if it's in error!
You rely on worldy science wich are not facts (some are but alot not!)
the human race is limited whit it's knowlage!
9kuuby9 2 months ago
waddletop 2 months ago
@waddletop Yeah, Hmm?
You do not understand that verse that good aperently, Use you brains just don't simpily smug it out whit an idea. It's says seas and natural barrier, not that you can replicate that can you?
Knowledge in the qoran is always right, just think about it, don't just hop off and do an experiment.; because you forgot natural and seas, now if you take just one word off the verse then it isn't correct as you did whit the experiment!
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@9kuuby9 'Knowledge in the qoran is always right'
You mean like 'he reached the setting of the sun, he found it to set in a spring of murky water" (18:86)'
The Quran is written by Allah (It is His unaltered word, NOT the word of others).
Why would Allah say something that, with modern science, we know to be false?
Or, if the Quran is just a collection of stories of what people have said, then why pay any special attention to any of it?
Which of these is it? Tell us.
waddletop 2 months ago
@waddletop Those "collection of stories" are called hadith is not part of the Koran!
I told you so many times, that you can't read a verse and understand it right away, because 1 verse can have alot of different meanings!
To understand those verses you will need to have a complete high degree understand of arabic before one can understand these verses.
Their is a site where the verses are explained (tafsir) Even the highest scholars couldn't find the meaning of alot of verses so whywouldyou?
9kuuby9 2 months ago
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@9kuuby9 'Those "collection of stories" are called hadith is not part of the Koran!'
It is from the Quran.
So, part of the Quran are not written by Allah. How can you know any of it is if you know that at least some if it isn't - it is just made up like Chapter 18?
'1 verse can have alot of different meanings!'
Ambiguity demonstrates poor writing.
From your statement, I can only conclude that Allah is a poor writer.
waddletop 2 months ago
@waddletop I will send the explenation of that verse in a message because i can't seem to get it fit here. (18:86)
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@waddletop part 1 :until, when he reached the setting of the sun, the place where it sets, he found it setting in a muddy spring (‘ayn hami’a: [a spring] containing ham’a, which is black clay): its setting in a spring is [described as seen] from the perspective of the eye, for otherwise it is far larger [in size] than this world; and he found by it, that is, [by] the spring, a folk, of disbelievers. We said, ‘O Dhū’l-Qarnayn — by [means of] inspiration — either chastise,
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@waddletop part 2 : the folk, by slaying [them], or treat them kindly’, by [merely] taking them captive. (18:86)"
9kuuby9 2 months ago
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@waddletop part 2 : the folk, by slaying [them], or treat them kindly’, by [merely] taking them captive. (18:86)"
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@waddletop
A more similar approach like you did,
/watch?v=yhVQcs4ZqwA
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@waddletop furhtermore, you can watch this
watch?v=yLNzJOyHnuk
Many thanks...
smnabil 5 months ago
@waddletop Because in islam the duty of a man is to give 80% of his money to the costs of food, clothes etc...This leaves him 20%
While a woman has no duties to give money for household like the men in islam.
Wich leaves 100% for the woman, So you say islam in unfair for woman?
I just disproved you!
It would be out of date if it was written by men, but is was written by god, Who made you! no one knows better than him! that's why it will be always up to date whitout a letter of change to it!
9kuuby9 2 months ago
@9kuuby9 'I just disproved you!'
Actually, you just got owned because the example you give demonstrates that women do not have equal rights under Islam.
'It would be out of date if it was written by men, but is was written by god,'
But a few posts ago, you said that The Quran contained Hadiths (18:86 for example). Now you are saying that the sun-setting-in-a-black-spring story is what God said.
How much more is God just quoting made-up stuff?
You disproved yourself and the Quran.
waddletop 2 months ago
read the whole quran/ all relared verses before commenting by pulling out some verses and hiding the rest..
Exactly what the chritians and jews r doing with their bible just to proof their point even if it conflicts
MHMDNAZEL 9 months ago
this is junior math
tokyo333ify 1 year ago
quran 4;11-12 islamic hereditary laws don't add up;
Wife 1/8 = 3/24
Daughters 2/3 = 16/24
Father 1/6 = 4/24
Mother1/6 = 4/24
Total = 27/24
jigglyfidda125 2 years ago
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SeashoreaTRUTH 1 year ago
@jigglyfidda125 you must understand this share is when wife is not alive so in the verse wife is not menioned, so it is: daughters= 2/3 parents 1/3 complete but if wife survives then the case is different and the already shared 2/3 to children must be deducted 1/8 so 2/3 - 1/8 for wife and 1/3 for parents. Proof verse 4:12 starts with what happens when wife is alive her rights but 4:11 is relating to mentioned children and parents. 2/3 and 1 /3 if wife alive 2/3-1/8 and 1/3 for parents.
SeashoreaTRUTH 1 year ago
who's supposed to be the stranger
abz3751678 2 years ago
Islamic Heritage is the base of moderm mathematics.
caudeerzik 2 years ago
excellentaa u showed me dis hamoo
princesskarrot 2 years ago
i thought this would be something really mind boggling stuff, it only turned out to be simple fractions.
rehguzar85 2 years ago
very helpful poooooop
SOLDIEROFALLAH95 3 years ago
good i remember this,excellent work hamo
qupaksulja 3 years ago