Naturalna kolej rzeczy. Takie rzeczy dzieją się po dziś dzień (obecnie np. w Syrii) od początku ludzkości, więc co by nie zrobił to i tak będą się one działy (no chyba że cała ludzkość zginie, to czegoś takiego nigdy nie będzie). Największa epidemia głupoty była chyba w XX wieku. Zobaczymy ile głupoty przyniesie XXI wiek, bo jak widać na świecie głupota ustąpić niechce.
Good riddance. The guy being shot was the leader of a VC death squad who was caught disposing of 30+ dead police officers and their family members (including several of the General's godchildren and close friends) in a ditch. He was a monster and it's likely his allies would have sprung him from prison so he could murder again if Loan hadn't executed him on the spot.
THis is how murderers should be handled if they are caught redhanded in the act. Such as the murderer who commited the shooting in Arizona early last year that nearly killed the one congress lady. No trial for murderers.
As a race, as a people, we must have a level of humanity in all of us. War is not necessarily right nor is is wrong, it just depends on the global situation (based in reality with a multi-angled viewpoint). However, the killing of an unarmed/bound human, regardless of affiliation is wrong, especially if this individual has not had the benefit of a FAIR trail - remember what we want for ourselves is what we should afford others as well - even if we do not like them.
@HeadsWillRoll1776 I bet you would feel differently when you saw a man standing over a mass grave of the dead bodies of your fellow police officers family members.
@puffie300 I would be angry and my gut reaction would be violence towards the individual(s) that cause such horrors. But, does killing that individual bring back your family members, friends, etc.? It doesn't, it only makes you feel "happy" for exacting revenge (or your own justice). Now, what if you were the person bound without any say (regardless if you did the crime or not). What should be afforded for one should be afforded to all lest we are willing to forfeit our privileges.
it's pretty odd this is like the only execution that has ever been released the government is pretty strict about these vids regardless of how old they are in general, I'm surprised this one got out to the public
@therealTaichiYagami the photographer did some interviews on the subject of this photo, and he just saw it as taking a photo during a war time, he didnt really expect it to have as much impact as it did, but it ended up on the cover of magazines and won him awards.
on the flipside, the guy that got shot oversaw the slaughter of 30 women and children.......so, yea, with that being said, i wouldnt of given the guy a fair trial either, lol.
This by far is one of the most disgusting acts ever filmed. Right up there with JFK's getting blown away on the Zapruder film and Ruby gunning down Oswald on live tv.
That was Vietnamese on Vietnamese combat. If someone went around killing the families of policemen in China or Egypt instead of US occupied Vietnam, I highly doubt they would have fared any better.
I've heard from several different sources that the man being executed was responsible for the executions of dozens of unarmed Vietnamese civilians.
General Ngoc Loan had apprently just decided that dragging this guy around and trying him in a court was too much trouble so he just shot him right in the street. Crazy stuff happens in war, but what's crazier is that nobody seems to be phased by said crazy stuff.
As of right now I am sad to say that I am an American. Actions like this make me sick. America is such a war hungry country and every allie they have had has also become war hungry. America had no right being in this war because this did not concern the American people at all. Instead they force their way in and lost many lives. Ron Paul has the best foreign policy which is to get out of every country because we have no business being their and we should worry about our own land. RON PAUL 2012!!
I am a Vietnamese, my entire Family served for the South Vietnam, to me, General Loan was a hero, people can call him whatever they want, murderer, killer, such and such, they forget, this is WAR, and that guy was VC, they dont know that Lem killed the entire family of a police officer (including his children) so who was the murderer? One more thing, ARVN personnels was allowed to carry immediate execution, also RVN was not subjected to Geneva Accord (they did not sign it)
@a25a02a96a man what kind of history book of vietnam u reading, a commie made book? You say the vietcong were for peace? They were terrorists like middle east terrorists do. They were doing bombing, kidnapping, destruction of infrastructure, assassinations, terrorizing south vietnamese that didn't join their side. Mate you seem to know all the bad things diem did, then how could you say the vietcong were on the right side?
@a25a02a96a i argee with you, we shouldn't had sent in troops in a civil war. The vietcong were more of a threat than russia and china, because the vietcong doesn't break any international laws in conquering South vietnam making it a communist state. So if they had successfully overthrow Diem then third world countries in Africa, South America and Asia would also have vietcong like groups trying to take over
@a25a02a96a australia was in the war too, they lost men just like americans did, so when you say the "best part was america lost" your saying we aussie also lost. You aussies were more a worthless allies to america than the south vietnamese army was. So peace and love, america
I pitty the Viets for their imposed war, on one side the communist which made the other side go America. They're really smart and hard working people.
HEADSHOT! Just kidding, I think war is a fucked up thing, people who are willing to kill another human being should stick to killing them virtually in Eg cod.
the vietcong were after peace all along, diem was a dictator and an unfare one at that, the vietcong and the north vietnamese army were always in the right, it was a civil war, the americans didnt just join the wrong side they were the wrong side... diem imposed lots of unfare laws, especially on religion and buddhism, leading to the suicidal, public burnings of monks. and the best part, america still lost, haha, peace and love,. aus.
@bpwhunter1993 thats exactly what im saying and aussie lives, they didnt die for there country they died because of it... vietnam had no threat against america or capitalism, so why did they go in ?...
the vietcong were after peace all along, diem was a dictator and an unfare one at that, the vietcong and the north vietnamese army were always in the right, it was a civil war, the americans didnt just join the wrong side they were the wrong side... diem imposed lots of unfare laws, especially on religion and buddhism, leading to the suicidal, public burnings of monks. and the best part, america still lost, haha
It's a horrible sight and the officer has had to live with the grief, but at the end of the day that VC soldier was out there to kill and cause an uprising during the Tet. Kill or be killed in warfare, that is war for you.
The executioner was a victim of the the vc hi job was to break into peoples houses on a list and kill them. The generals family was killed by him... The fact he didn't do more then just shoot him is amazing in my opinion
remember people, the "murderer" here was on our side in the war, he was exicuteing a vietcong gorilla leader who had just finished killing over 20 of our guys....soooooo... yeha
Before anyone condemns or judges, imagine this. The average age of the American soldier in Viet Nam was 19 to 20 years old. They servied, on average, an 11 month tour. Many volunteered to serve more. I've seen the effects of those eleven months on hundreds of men and women. Most of them won't talk about what they saw or what they did. It was just too horrible.
Now consider this general. He didn't serve a one year or even a ten year tour in the war zone. He lived it every day. Think.
@tobotucker Well said. I was an 8 year old boy back then and I can clearly remember seeing this when it was broadcasted on the evening news. The perception we have of war is often quite different than the reality of it, unless we were there or know the whole situation we have no right to condemn.
@RadioactiveAcids You know, I really doubt that he would have fucking died, considering Chuck Norris is a god damn human. So was this man. I highly doubt anyone would survive a fucking bullet to the head...JFK didn't.
The photographer who took the famous still picture of this maintained that the General was a hero. According to him, scenes like this were commonplace, as they are in any human conflict. The photog also said they had fairly compelling evidence the guy who was shot had himself executed a large number of noncombatants, women and children included, in similar street-justice fashion.
Who the hell are we to judge, based on 30 seconds of video watched from the comfort of our homes and offices?
@jmarquise What in the FUCK are you talking about? Did you read some other comment and hit my reply by accident? Your comment is an utter non sequitur.
@tombotucker Whether the man deserved to be shot or not is not the point I believe. That life in Vietnam had come to this, only underscores what a tragedy the whole conflict had become. Life no longer had any value.
@tombotucker because it was commonplace does it make it okay? my father when he was a kid in Saigon turned on a radio at a local cafe and it happened to be on some North Viet communist station and a military officer who was there jumped out of his seat and pointed a gun to my father's head, my dad was maybe 9yrs old, and if it wasn't for the cafe owner calming the officer down my father believed he'd have his head blown off right there; that officer may have been a hero too, so okay right?
Idiot, this guy had just killed 8 people. The Tet offensive still wasn't over, and many installations and cities in South Vietnam were still under threat of being overrun by the Viet Cong. There wasn't time for a trial...he was guilty, he got his. End of story. That's called reality.
@USN1985dos yah I know it's the reality, doesn't make it right though and you don't know he was guilty...again my father and my whole extended family was there during that whole time; before, during and after the war too.
So murdering at least 8 people deserves what, exactly? A slap on the wrist? Some prison time in a city that might be overrun by the Viet Cong at any given moment? No. It's war, and in war death is met by death. General Loan understood this just like any warrior. To sit back from the sidelines and criticize his judgment when you aren't in that situation is rediculous.
@USN1985dos No one knows he did it, he didn't get caught in the act, he was near the bodies...for all we know he could just been some local like my father. Or even if he as a VC, he may not have been the one to actually direct the killings. The intention of my post was for you to see how crazy just shooting someone like this on the streets is...I know it was common, my father almost got his head blown off for really no reason, and it's not a surprise, it happened all the time there.
@openmindedproduction Dude, your making sound like they just found this guy. They knew who he was and what he was up to, he was not just a random guy. Also, the vietcong were scum who raped and killed anyone in their path whether man woman or child. Whether old, young, defenseless or not they would kill with no mercy. They deserved the same.
@pelverud1 they pretty much did just find the guy, by most accounts he was just found at or near the bodies after the act and everything you said about the Vietcong, the same could be said about the South Vietnamese and the Americans.
@openmindedproduction He was near the bodies, armed, and admitted to being VC. The dead included the General's best friend's wife and six of the general's own godchildren. If there was ever an argument in favor of summary execution, this guy is it.
@USN1985dos and I'm not really judging the shooter, in all honesty if I was him and his exact situation I probably would have done the same thing. But I'm not him, and knowing what I know, and studying history and warfare I would not, or try my very best not to, do the same thing as this man did...
Videos like this are important. Why? Because the general who shot the commie is the same as you and I. And chances are, we would have done the exact same thing. The general's actions were not wrong, the general's actions were not right. Because in war, life has no value.Plain and simple, this is war.
@xxTULANExx you like the part where he shoots the guy? what a completely brainless comment you have typed and posted, that was someones life which has been taken by another, no matter what he did or what he did was right or wrong, no other human have the rights the take another's life.
@midge218 it's not a brainless comment. YOUR comment was brainless telling me no deserves to die. By that you're also telling me that if a man killed your WHOLE family and tortured him days before killing them and you had to witness it, you don't think he deserves to die? If you were there and you had a gun you'd watch him kill your family? If you kill him then you completly went against your own comment. But if that's what you believe in then i can't change that.
@xxTULANExx reading this tells me you dont even know what youre talking about. First of all, he did not kill General Nguyen's family, secondly there were no mention of days of torture, and General Nguyen defo didnt witness it, you cant compare something being told to something being seen. General Nguyen was only told that his friend's family has been killed, then this Vietcong who were captured near the murder scene, again General Nguyen was told where the Vietcong was capture and bang, no prove
@midge218 you're obviously fucking retarded. This goes back to when you said "people don't deserve to take others lifes" so i hope you go back and read your first comment then read my reply.
@midge218 i beg to differ, what about a lunatic shooting and killing inncoent people like the VC so it was a war either being shot 300 yards or 2 feet what difference does it matter
@midge218 no one has the right to take someone's life? That Vietcong soldier massacred a whole family and dumped their into a ditch, Hitler ordered the extermination of millions of Jews, are you suggesting by your rule that people like that should be allowed to live?
@jalahalabadstyle3 nope, and for hitler and saddam hussein for example, they are condemned to death by a nation/humanity. a lone man cant decide the fate of another human being. anyway lets stop it here i have my own opinion and so do you. so dont call me a fool for having an opinion
@jalahalabadstyle3 plus, there were no proof that this particular vietcong killed the generals best friends family. he was found near the ditch. they didnt question him at all.
@midge218 There was proof, . . . by perception. I understand something of the logic and probability of the exigent circumstances of war and what bad guys do. But you? You would have had to have been there and heard Nguyen Van Lem aka Bay Lop, himself, tell you how he was about to slit the children's throats, and kill the parents, only problem would be that, listening to him, quite naturally, you would wish to suppose yourself to be hallucinating. Now, you can understand that much can't you?
@jalahalabadstyle3 what the fuck? proof by perception? if you were out to hunt for a possible killer, anyone who looks suspicious would be the suspect especially where they found the Vietcong, and naturally you would be scare shitless if a south vietnamese police with guns come up to you and accused you of murdering a family. and you call perception is proof? proof is witness and there were none. mate you dont even know what youre talking about.
@jalahalabadstyle3 How did you get the true that "That Vietcong soldier massacred a whole family and dumped their into a ditch", that's only a reason,for the general,it's a monodirection information.
The soldier was shot just because he was an enemy,and captured at the place near the general.
"The soldier was shot just because he was an enemy,and captured at the place near the general."
No, Lém was shot because S. Vietnamese sources indicated he was leader of a VC death squad who attacked police and their family members, and when they took him into custody they found a mass grave of the murdered family members of national police officers at his location.
@afeeder I don't understand how you can believe that sources, it's from the South Vietnam and VC was their enemy. Of course no one wants to say good things about the enemy, it's just a bad reason , beside the words of "massacre" or something, they can't provide anymore evidences. I've been following this for a long time, But I can't find any sources other than from South Vietnam. Unreliable.
you don't know shit.....okey! why don't you go argue with the Chinese....they said shit about your government and Vietnamese as a whole, and your shithead is busy here talking about old and new systems....why don't you look for CHINA AND VIETNAM NAVAL BATTLE....and will see for yourselves, what do the Chinese said about the government of Vietnam and you too.....YOU ARE A STUPID ASSHOLE...
Would you believe that General Nguyen Ngoc Loan actually moved to Washington, D.C. and opened a bakery which he had for like 20 years. He died only about 5 years ago I think but I may be wrong.
@MBOYA22 wrong He died from execution for the murder of 347 innocent ppl who he accused as being a VC he was tried and convicted of 347 counts of capitol murder by the U.S. international Court at the U.N administration of Human affairs.
He was tried and also convicted for crimes against humanity and was ordered by not only our President but also other seating leaders of other nations as well,general Nguyen Ngoc Loan was sentenced to death by fireing squad in 1989 by U.S and Vietnam forces.
@Torvollonis I know how Youtube can be so I will now argue this point. For all who want to see how The General Died just Google his name. He died of Cancer here in America in 1998 AT 67 YEARS OLD.
Naturalna kolej rzeczy. Takie rzeczy dzieją się po dziś dzień (obecnie np. w Syrii) od początku ludzkości, więc co by nie zrobił to i tak będą się one działy (no chyba że cała ludzkość zginie, to czegoś takiego nigdy nie będzie). Największa epidemia głupoty była chyba w XX wieku. Zobaczymy ile głupoty przyniesie XXI wiek, bo jak widać na świecie głupota ustąpić niechce.
Tom1977Poland 1 week ago
Good riddance. The guy being shot was the leader of a VC death squad who was caught disposing of 30+ dead police officers and their family members (including several of the General's godchildren and close friends) in a ditch. He was a monster and it's likely his allies would have sprung him from prison so he could murder again if Loan hadn't executed him on the spot.
KrazyKommieKiller 2 weeks ago
THis is how murderers should be handled if they are caught redhanded in the act. Such as the murderer who commited the shooting in Arizona early last year that nearly killed the one congress lady. No trial for murderers.
iwouldbonekerihilson 3 weeks ago
WTF is up with Youtube, its getting laggy buffering since they made these upgrades
Ezzequiel2517 3 weeks ago
You just witnessed the cure for Marxism
Royak 3 weeks ago
FUUKK USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheNachitoGT 1 month ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah i like it.
MrJuxtapoz2010 1 month ago
As a race, as a people, we must have a level of humanity in all of us. War is not necessarily right nor is is wrong, it just depends on the global situation (based in reality with a multi-angled viewpoint). However, the killing of an unarmed/bound human, regardless of affiliation is wrong, especially if this individual has not had the benefit of a FAIR trail - remember what we want for ourselves is what we should afford others as well - even if we do not like them.
HeadsWillRoll1776 1 month ago
@HeadsWillRoll1776 I bet you would feel differently when you saw a man standing over a mass grave of the dead bodies of your fellow police officers family members.
puffie300 1 month ago
@puffie300 I would be angry and my gut reaction would be violence towards the individual(s) that cause such horrors. But, does killing that individual bring back your family members, friends, etc.? It doesn't, it only makes you feel "happy" for exacting revenge (or your own justice). Now, what if you were the person bound without any say (regardless if you did the crime or not). What should be afforded for one should be afforded to all lest we are willing to forfeit our privileges.
HeadsWillRoll1776 1 month ago
@HeadsWillRoll1776
I don't think that me nor you could feel what the man who shot felt at that moment, it was different back then.
TheHarderStylezzz 4 weeks ago
ALL COMMIES MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!
fraank69 1 month ago
This video really brings out the Christmas Spirit when you activate the Snowflakes at the bottom of the screen
djhousefire 2 months ago
shit you see the blood spurt out of his head
Euan281 2 months ago
wow... now that's violent
zderickz 3 months ago
fuck vc!!
mrnarason 3 months ago 4
Whoa.......little fountain of blood and everythingggggg
AutomaticAxe 4 months ago
it's pretty odd this is like the only execution that has ever been released the government is pretty strict about these vids regardless of how old they are in general, I'm surprised this one got out to the public
therealTaichiYagami 4 months ago
@therealTaichiYagami the photographer did some interviews on the subject of this photo, and he just saw it as taking a photo during a war time, he didnt really expect it to have as much impact as it did, but it ended up on the cover of magazines and won him awards.
on the flipside, the guy that got shot oversaw the slaughter of 30 women and children.......so, yea, with that being said, i wouldnt of given the guy a fair trial either, lol.
ryanakahuss 4 months ago
@ryanakahuss lol I guess so, and I thought that guy was just a civilian or something
therealTaichiYagami 4 months ago
This by far is one of the most disgusting acts ever filmed. Right up there with JFK's getting blown away on the Zapruder film and Ruby gunning down Oswald on live tv.
skyblazer7 4 months ago
@skyblazer7 really? you should check out theync.com - this is a disney movie compared to the stuff that is on there.
XanaxAbuse 3 months ago
No trial?
razorlord2 4 months ago
Where life ain't worth a dime...
HugeGene 4 months ago
the liberty of usa...
hansini3 4 months ago
@hansini3
That was Vietnamese on Vietnamese combat. If someone went around killing the families of policemen in China or Egypt instead of US occupied Vietnam, I highly doubt they would have fared any better.
afeeder 4 months ago
die commi die
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gaylordNL 5 months ago
I've heard from several different sources that the man being executed was responsible for the executions of dozens of unarmed Vietnamese civilians.
General Ngoc Loan had apprently just decided that dragging this guy around and trying him in a court was too much trouble so he just shot him right in the street. Crazy stuff happens in war, but what's crazier is that nobody seems to be phased by said crazy stuff.
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boychino9999 6 months ago
As of right now I am sad to say that I am an American. Actions like this make me sick. America is such a war hungry country and every allie they have had has also become war hungry. America had no right being in this war because this did not concern the American people at all. Instead they force their way in and lost many lives. Ron Paul has the best foreign policy which is to get out of every country because we have no business being their and we should worry about our own land. RON PAUL 2012!!
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Maccoos 5 months ago in playlist Maccoos's Favorited Videos
good shot officer. he may have killed the families of officers, but you got him in the end.
jmarquise 6 months ago
The bad thing is that war has no rules :P he shot him ice cold like he was an animal !
2Gumble 7 months ago
I am a Vietnamese, my entire Family served for the South Vietnam, to me, General Loan was a hero, people can call him whatever they want, murderer, killer, such and such, they forget, this is WAR, and that guy was VC, they dont know that Lem killed the entire family of a police officer (including his children) so who was the murderer? One more thing, ARVN personnels was allowed to carry immediate execution, also RVN was not subjected to Geneva Accord (they did not sign it)
TQLCVNCH 7 months ago
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TQLCVNCH 7 months ago
@a25a02a96a man what kind of history book of vietnam u reading, a commie made book? You say the vietcong were for peace? They were terrorists like middle east terrorists do. They were doing bombing, kidnapping, destruction of infrastructure, assassinations, terrorizing south vietnamese that didn't join their side. Mate you seem to know all the bad things diem did, then how could you say the vietcong were on the right side?
reddog2007max 7 months ago
@a25a02a96a i argee with you, we shouldn't had sent in troops in a civil war. The vietcong were more of a threat than russia and china, because the vietcong doesn't break any international laws in conquering South vietnam making it a communist state. So if they had successfully overthrow Diem then third world countries in Africa, South America and Asia would also have vietcong like groups trying to take over
reddog2007max 7 months ago
@a25a02a96a australia was in the war too, they lost men just like americans did, so when you say the "best part was america lost" your saying we aussie also lost. You aussies were more a worthless allies to america than the south vietnamese army was. So peace and love, america
reddog2007max 7 months ago
I pitty the Viets for their imposed war, on one side the communist which made the other side go America. They're really smart and hard working people.
DMJaber 8 months ago
HEADSHOT! Just kidding, I think war is a fucked up thing, people who are willing to kill another human being should stick to killing them virtually in Eg cod.
TheGrenadeApple 8 months ago
hahahaha
YAHSPETSNAZ 8 months ago
the vietcong were after peace all along, diem was a dictator and an unfare one at that, the vietcong and the north vietnamese army were always in the right, it was a civil war, the americans didnt just join the wrong side they were the wrong side... diem imposed lots of unfare laws, especially on religion and buddhism, leading to the suicidal, public burnings of monks. and the best part, america still lost, haha, peace and love,. aus.
a25a02a96a 9 months ago
@a25a02a96a so are you saying that american lives were wasted... go to hell
bpwhunter1993 8 months ago
@bpwhunter1993 thats exactly what im saying and aussie lives, they didnt die for there country they died because of it... vietnam had no threat against america or capitalism, so why did they go in ?...
a25a02a96a 8 months ago
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@a25a02a96a "they didnt die for there country they died because of it" Best thing I've heard in a while.
DMJaber 8 months ago
the vietcong were after peace all along, diem was a dictator and an unfare one at that, the vietcong and the north vietnamese army were always in the right, it was a civil war, the americans didnt just join the wrong side they were the wrong side... diem imposed lots of unfare laws, especially on religion and buddhism, leading to the suicidal, public burnings of monks. and the best part, america still lost, haha
a25a02a96a 9 months ago
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It's like a real life video game!
yackemflamber 9 months ago
It's a horrible sight and the officer has had to live with the grief, but at the end of the day that VC soldier was out there to kill and cause an uprising during the Tet. Kill or be killed in warfare, that is war for you.
12arsenal4eva 9 months ago 3
looks to me like that guy with the pistol just decided the fate of that other guy, who was the idiot that said you can't?
noobler9 9 months ago
The executioner was a victim of the the vc hi job was to break into peoples houses on a list and kill them. The generals family was killed by him... The fact he didn't do more then just shoot him is amazing in my opinion
Bton1233 10 months ago
I'm not a communist or anything but the VC only wanted a free Vietnam.
DMJaber 10 months ago
@DMJaber Vietnam was free.....
tinle2 8 months ago
@tinle2 USA?
DMJaber 8 months ago
@DMJaber Rvn
tinle2 8 months ago
that had to hurt...
drmagic 10 months ago
remember people, the "murderer" here was on our side in the war, he was exicuteing a vietcong gorilla leader who had just finished killing over 20 of our guys....soooooo... yeha
marcoez123 10 months ago
just found out that the guy who shot the other guy is my history teacher's great uncle
RAHSbball10 10 months ago
lol i love playin this with the 1911 feature
DaShiz0 11 months ago
Before anyone condemns or judges, imagine this. The average age of the American soldier in Viet Nam was 19 to 20 years old. They servied, on average, an 11 month tour. Many volunteered to serve more. I've seen the effects of those eleven months on hundreds of men and women. Most of them won't talk about what they saw or what they did. It was just too horrible.
Now consider this general. He didn't serve a one year or even a ten year tour in the war zone. He lived it every day. Think.
budandtammie 11 months ago
His headcum is red...
Debbie321lopez 11 months ago
khóc cho bác Loan
thienbk08 11 months ago
blood fountain
TheRumskulla 11 months ago
@tobotucker Well said. I was an 8 year old boy back then and I can clearly remember seeing this when it was broadcasted on the evening news. The perception we have of war is often quite different than the reality of it, unless we were there or know the whole situation we have no right to condemn.
northwi60 1 year ago
Chuck norris would have survived that
RadioactiveAcids 1 year ago 3
@RadioactiveAcids You know, I really doubt that he would have fucking died, considering Chuck Norris is a god damn human. So was this man. I highly doubt anyone would survive a fucking bullet to the head...JFK didn't.
wearefamily12 9 months ago
The photographer who took the famous still picture of this maintained that the General was a hero. According to him, scenes like this were commonplace, as they are in any human conflict. The photog also said they had fairly compelling evidence the guy who was shot had himself executed a large number of noncombatants, women and children included, in similar street-justice fashion.
Who the hell are we to judge, based on 30 seconds of video watched from the comfort of our homes and offices?
tombotucker 1 year ago 22
@tombotucker your no fun
RadioactiveAcids 1 year ago
@RadioactiveAcids wdf
deadlyram2k6 1 year ago
@tombotucker please invite me to your birthday party when you turn two. you are such a brilliant little boy, and I don't pity you at all.
jmarquise 6 months ago
@jmarquise What in the FUCK are you talking about? Did you read some other comment and hit my reply by accident? Your comment is an utter non sequitur.
tombotucker 6 months ago
@tombotucker Whether the man deserved to be shot or not is not the point I believe. That life in Vietnam had come to this, only underscores what a tragedy the whole conflict had become. Life no longer had any value.
dmclean635 4 months ago
@tombotucker because it was commonplace does it make it okay? my father when he was a kid in Saigon turned on a radio at a local cafe and it happened to be on some North Viet communist station and a military officer who was there jumped out of his seat and pointed a gun to my father's head, my dad was maybe 9yrs old, and if it wasn't for the cafe owner calming the officer down my father believed he'd have his head blown off right there; that officer may have been a hero too, so okay right?
openmindedproduction 4 months ago
@openmindedproduction
Idiot, this guy had just killed 8 people. The Tet offensive still wasn't over, and many installations and cities in South Vietnam were still under threat of being overrun by the Viet Cong. There wasn't time for a trial...he was guilty, he got his. End of story. That's called reality.
USN1985dos 4 months ago
@USN1985dos yah I know it's the reality, doesn't make it right though and you don't know he was guilty...again my father and my whole extended family was there during that whole time; before, during and after the war too.
openmindedproduction 4 months ago
@openmindedproduction
So murdering at least 8 people deserves what, exactly? A slap on the wrist? Some prison time in a city that might be overrun by the Viet Cong at any given moment? No. It's war, and in war death is met by death. General Loan understood this just like any warrior. To sit back from the sidelines and criticize his judgment when you aren't in that situation is rediculous.
USN1985dos 4 months ago 4
@USN1985dos No one knows he did it, he didn't get caught in the act, he was near the bodies...for all we know he could just been some local like my father. Or even if he as a VC, he may not have been the one to actually direct the killings. The intention of my post was for you to see how crazy just shooting someone like this on the streets is...I know it was common, my father almost got his head blown off for really no reason, and it's not a surprise, it happened all the time there.
openmindedproduction 4 months ago
@openmindedproduction Dude, your making sound like they just found this guy. They knew who he was and what he was up to, he was not just a random guy. Also, the vietcong were scum who raped and killed anyone in their path whether man woman or child. Whether old, young, defenseless or not they would kill with no mercy. They deserved the same.
pelverud1 3 months ago
@pelverud1 they pretty much did just find the guy, by most accounts he was just found at or near the bodies after the act and everything you said about the Vietcong, the same could be said about the South Vietnamese and the Americans.
openmindedproduction 3 months ago
@openmindedproduction He was near the bodies, armed, and admitted to being VC. The dead included the General's best friend's wife and six of the general's own godchildren. If there was ever an argument in favor of summary execution, this guy is it.
galaktar 3 months ago
@galaktar what are your sources for him being armed?
openmindedproduction 3 months ago
@openmindedproduction he wasn't armed, however he was confirmed VC.
PoliceOfficer537 2 months ago
@openmindedproduction
Anyone who knows anything about this VERY famous story knows that that guy was the leader of a VC death squad.
CaptainAmerica322 2 months ago
@USN1985dos and I'm not really judging the shooter, in all honesty if I was him and his exact situation I probably would have done the same thing. But I'm not him, and knowing what I know, and studying history and warfare I would not, or try my very best not to, do the same thing as this man did...
openmindedproduction 4 months ago
@USN1985dos Still.....He was executed...just like that...nobody should have that kinda of power.
2976847 1 month ago
This is just terrible I recently read an essay for English in college regarding this moment. To actually see this is just inhumane.
ASSASSINX87 1 year ago
Videos like this are important. Why? Because the general who shot the commie is the same as you and I. And chances are, we would have done the exact same thing. The general's actions were not wrong, the general's actions were not right. Because in war, life has no value.Plain and simple, this is war.
szacharym 1 year ago
i like the part where he shoots the guy
xxTULANExx 1 year ago
@xxTULANExx you like the part where he shoots the guy? what a completely brainless comment you have typed and posted, that was someones life which has been taken by another, no matter what he did or what he did was right or wrong, no other human have the rights the take another's life.
midge218 1 year ago
@midge218 it's not a brainless comment. YOUR comment was brainless telling me no deserves to die. By that you're also telling me that if a man killed your WHOLE family and tortured him days before killing them and you had to witness it, you don't think he deserves to die? If you were there and you had a gun you'd watch him kill your family? If you kill him then you completly went against your own comment. But if that's what you believe in then i can't change that.
xxTULANExx 1 year ago
@xxTULANExx reading this tells me you dont even know what youre talking about. First of all, he did not kill General Nguyen's family, secondly there were no mention of days of torture, and General Nguyen defo didnt witness it, you cant compare something being told to something being seen. General Nguyen was only told that his friend's family has been killed, then this Vietcong who were captured near the murder scene, again General Nguyen was told where the Vietcong was capture and bang, no prove
midge218 1 year ago
@midge218 you're obviously fucking retarded. This goes back to when you said "people don't deserve to take others lifes" so i hope you go back and read your first comment then read my reply.
xxTULANExx 1 year ago
@midge218 i beg to differ, what about a lunatic shooting and killing inncoent people like the VC so it was a war either being shot 300 yards or 2 feet what difference does it matter
DrShakalu619 1 year ago
@midge218 youre a fool
jalahalabadstyle3 10 months ago
@jalahalabadstyle3 and youre a soulless twat who can only utter "youre a fool"
midge218 10 months ago
@midge218 no one has the right to take someone's life? That Vietcong soldier massacred a whole family and dumped their into a ditch, Hitler ordered the extermination of millions of Jews, are you suggesting by your rule that people like that should be allowed to live?
jalahalabadstyle3 10 months ago
@jalahalabadstyle3 nope, and for hitler and saddam hussein for example, they are condemned to death by a nation/humanity. a lone man cant decide the fate of another human being. anyway lets stop it here i have my own opinion and so do you. so dont call me a fool for having an opinion
midge218 10 months ago
@jalahalabadstyle3 plus, there were no proof that this particular vietcong killed the generals best friends family. he was found near the ditch. they didnt question him at all.
midge218 10 months ago
@midge218 There was proof, . . . by perception. I understand something of the logic and probability of the exigent circumstances of war and what bad guys do. But you? You would have had to have been there and heard Nguyen Van Lem aka Bay Lop, himself, tell you how he was about to slit the children's throats, and kill the parents, only problem would be that, listening to him, quite naturally, you would wish to suppose yourself to be hallucinating. Now, you can understand that much can't you?
jalahalabadstyle3 10 months ago
@jalahalabadstyle3 what the fuck? proof by perception? if you were out to hunt for a possible killer, anyone who looks suspicious would be the suspect especially where they found the Vietcong, and naturally you would be scare shitless if a south vietnamese police with guns come up to you and accused you of murdering a family. and you call perception is proof? proof is witness and there were none. mate you dont even know what youre talking about.
midge218 10 months ago
@jalahalabadstyle3 How did you get the true that "That Vietcong soldier massacred a whole family and dumped their into a ditch", that's only a reason,for the general,it's a monodirection information.
The soldier was shot just because he was an enemy,and captured at the place near the general.
thermonuclearweapon1 9 months ago
@thermonuclearweapon1
"The soldier was shot just because he was an enemy,and captured at the place near the general."
No, Lém was shot because S. Vietnamese sources indicated he was leader of a VC death squad who attacked police and their family members, and when they took him into custody they found a mass grave of the murdered family members of national police officers at his location.
afeeder 8 months ago
@afeeder I don't understand how you can believe that sources, it's from the South Vietnam and VC was their enemy. Of course no one wants to say good things about the enemy, it's just a bad reason , beside the words of "massacre" or something, they can't provide anymore evidences. I've been following this for a long time, But I can't find any sources other than from South Vietnam. Unreliable.
thermonuclearweapon1 5 months ago
@thermonuclearweapon1
you don't know shit.....okey! why don't you go argue with the Chinese....they said shit about your government and Vietnamese as a whole, and your shithead is busy here talking about old and new systems....why don't you look for CHINA AND VIETNAM NAVAL BATTLE....and will see for yourselves, what do the Chinese said about the government of Vietnam and you too.....YOU ARE A STUPID ASSHOLE...
sanjose42000 5 months ago
@afeeder just because they can't admit or accept that their general was just a ganster,a murderer.
thermonuclearweapon1 5 months ago
@thermonuclearweapon1
YOU ARE A STUPID ASSHOLE....
sanjose42000 5 months ago
@thermonuclearweapon1
There was physical evidence, a mass grave
afeeder 4 months ago
OH YEA AND THE BLOODSQUIRTS OUT HIS HEAD THATS THE BEST PART
irishpker27 1 year ago
ROFL AND A LEFT WING LIBERAL POLITICAL AGENDA HAS NO GRIT GO TAKE IT UP THE ASS U BUNCH OF JACK ASSES
irishpker27 1 year ago
Would you believe that General Nguyen Ngoc Loan actually moved to Washington, D.C. and opened a bakery which he had for like 20 years. He died only about 5 years ago I think but I may be wrong.
MBOYA22 1 year ago
@MBOYA22 I apologize everyone my first statement was incorrect. The General died in 1998 and he had a Pizza shop in D.C.
MBOYA22 1 year ago
@MBOYA22 wrong He died from execution for the murder of 347 innocent ppl who he accused as being a VC he was tried and convicted of 347 counts of capitol murder by the U.S. international Court at the U.N administration of Human affairs.
He was tried and also convicted for crimes against humanity and was ordered by not only our President but also other seating leaders of other nations as well,general Nguyen Ngoc Loan was sentenced to death by fireing squad in 1989 by U.S and Vietnam forces.
Torvollonis 1 year ago
@Torvollonis I know how Youtube can be so I will now argue this point. For all who want to see how The General Died just Google his name. He died of Cancer here in America in 1998 AT 67 YEARS OLD.
MBOYA22 1 year ago 5
Good to see the comments are from right-wing nutcases.
PrimaIScream 1 year ago
The executed party was a terrorist; not a martyr. The ARVN General administered justice courtesy of a S&W Bodyguard .38 revolver.
TheLSK 1 year ago
What a lovely sight.
plainbob13 1 year ago