It depends also from the the ski you use, with slalom or GS is a different style, Austria and Italy use GS ski and the radius is quite different from SL ski.
I think all the guys here are using skis with about 18 m radius, not less... And I think no one is using GS FIS skis. With this kind of ski you can do almost whatever you want. The really interesting thing is to see who is still using the useless distension befor the edge changing: austrian do it very strongly, and their ski tecnique is the worst to see. Italians do it at a medium level but also US team do it. The best for me are the canadian - no distension.
Very interesting discussion, weel in my opinion canadian "style" is very nice I really like it in soft snow, but I'am sure not in cannon snow (ice artificial snow), where you know is completly different. We can say this is an easy snow, the perfect snow who all people whant to do ski, unfortunatly often we find differents type of snow.
Personally I think that if we find cannon snow with ice, during the short turns, distension and an high body position are very important
@CALIMERO1255 For the record this was filmed on icy, man-made snow that had melted and re-frozen a number of times. It may look easy, but it was slick. I have other footage on the same slope that shows demonstrators from many countries skidding around. I think the Canadian technique works pretty good on the ice too!
I've try last week in soft snow a short turn with Canadian style, well the result was impressive. How? I was with my instructor (teacher of the teacher), I was doing short turn in cannon snow... , during this short turn I've see in front of me a different snow, a little more soft so I've switch to Italian style short turn into Canadian style, well the result was impressive, my instructor said me that was impressive! I've do a mix changing the style in fuction of the type of snow.
Italian short turn (corto raggio) is not a carved turn, it requires a little bit of skidding and when you do it you have to "block" the turn at the end, it's not a continuos turn, it is not made for shaped skis, you can do it also with not shaped skis or with very long radius like GS 27 m radius FIS skis. Obviously canadian carved short turn is much better to see, and also to do, but only on easy slopes: on ice, or powder, or bumps and steep slopes italian is better.
PS: with FIS slalom skis, the pros can do carved short turn also on ice and very steep slopes (and in rapid gates!) but, well, they are pros. Italian short turn for me is enjoyable only on steep, ice, or bumps, otherways I prefere to carve, also in short turn like canadians. Italian short turn it's ad "old style turn", very difficult to see someone doing it, also because it's very, very tiring.
Hi, thanks for your reply, I agree with your comment, in fact for me, is more easy to do short turn with less shaped skis, for example I prefer to do short turn with GS skis and not with SL ski (more shaped). For us manteinig an high body position during the down hill is very important. In powder or very easy snow, I agree with Canadians is better to change a bit and find a more soft asset, a little more round, but always with an high body position.
Good compilation. It's painful to watch Austrians. Have they ever seen the way Austrian's alpine team skis? 'World Cup influence"? Not even remotely close....
In my opinion Austria and Italy are inspired from race, Canadian style is more loose more free. In powder snow probably Canadian style is great but if you find different snow ex. more stiff and ice, Austria/Italy style is the top. All depends from the snow and the type of ski you use.
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CALIMERO1255 1 month ago
It depends also from the the ski you use, with slalom or GS is a different style, Austria and Italy use GS ski and the radius is quite different from SL ski.
CALIMERO1255 2 months ago
I think all the guys here are using skis with about 18 m radius, not less... And I think no one is using GS FIS skis. With this kind of ski you can do almost whatever you want. The really interesting thing is to see who is still using the useless distension befor the edge changing: austrian do it very strongly, and their ski tecnique is the worst to see. Italians do it at a medium level but also US team do it. The best for me are the canadian - no distension.
WellnessGourmet 1 month ago
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Very interesting discussion, weel in my opinion canadian "style" is very nice I really like it in soft snow, but I'am sure not in cannon snow (ice artificial snow), where you know is completly different. We can say this is an easy snow, the perfect snow who all people whant to do ski, unfortunatly often we find differents type of snow.
Personally I think that if we find cannon snow with ice, during the short turns, distension and an high body position are very important
CALIMERO1255 1 month ago
@CALIMERO1255 For the record this was filmed on icy, man-made snow that had melted and re-frozen a number of times. It may look easy, but it was slick. I have other footage on the same slope that shows demonstrators from many countries skidding around. I think the Canadian technique works pretty good on the ice too!
CSIAAMSC 1 month ago
@CSIAAMSC
I've try last week in soft snow a short turn with Canadian style, well the result was impressive. How? I was with my instructor (teacher of the teacher), I was doing short turn in cannon snow... , during this short turn I've see in front of me a different snow, a little more soft so I've switch to Italian style short turn into Canadian style, well the result was impressive, my instructor said me that was impressive! I've do a mix changing the style in fuction of the type of snow.
CALIMERO1255 1 month ago
@CALIMERO1255
Italian short turn (corto raggio) is not a carved turn, it requires a little bit of skidding and when you do it you have to "block" the turn at the end, it's not a continuos turn, it is not made for shaped skis, you can do it also with not shaped skis or with very long radius like GS 27 m radius FIS skis. Obviously canadian carved short turn is much better to see, and also to do, but only on easy slopes: on ice, or powder, or bumps and steep slopes italian is better.
WellnessGourmet 1 month ago
PS: with FIS slalom skis, the pros can do carved short turn also on ice and very steep slopes (and in rapid gates!) but, well, they are pros. Italian short turn for me is enjoyable only on steep, ice, or bumps, otherways I prefere to carve, also in short turn like canadians. Italian short turn it's ad "old style turn", very difficult to see someone doing it, also because it's very, very tiring.
WellnessGourmet 1 month ago
@WellnessGourmet
Hi, thanks for your reply, I agree with your comment, in fact for me, is more easy to do short turn with less shaped skis, for example I prefer to do short turn with GS skis and not with SL ski (more shaped). For us manteinig an high body position during the down hill is very important. In powder or very easy snow, I agree with Canadians is better to change a bit and find a more soft asset, a little more round, but always with an high body position.
CALIMERO1255 1 month ago
@WellnessGourmet Can't speak about the equipment of all the demonstrators, but the canadians were mostly on Slalom skis.
CSIAAMSC 1 month ago
@CSIAAMSC
Check tihs on youtube:
"SCI - 6° livello - Curve condotte.mp4 "
what do you think?
In my opinion this is great.
CALIMERO1255 1 week ago
Great Video!!
riderwithani 2 months ago
@csiaamsc nice! at 0:27 is the skier sebastian michael?
SabayonCompiz 2 months ago 2
This is really interesting :)
saodaketakeya 2 months ago
good compilation
europeansnowsport 3 months ago
Thak you for uploading this video. It's an opprtunity to compare our tecnique to other's. I enjoyed it.
curlm2 6 months ago
0:27 - 0:45
SabayonCompiz 7 months ago 36
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SabayonCompiz 7 months ago
epic
joie123 9 months ago
Ahh nothing compares to the Canadian technique :)
sparklyrainboww 9 months ago 12
Good compilation. It's painful to watch Austrians. Have they ever seen the way Austrian's alpine team skis? 'World Cup influence"? Not even remotely close....
laglider 9 months ago
@laglider
In my opinion Austria and Italy are inspired from race, Canadian style is more loose more free. In powder snow probably Canadian style is great but if you find different snow ex. more stiff and ice, Austria/Italy style is the top. All depends from the snow and the type of ski you use.
ciao
CALIMERO1255 2 months ago 2
@CALIMERO1255 I totally agree in cannon snow all is different...
CALIMERO1255 1 month ago
Hi John,
As allways it's very inspirational to hear Your points of view on skiing....especially when it's accompanied by great video.
You've had great influence - along with Norman Kreutz and Ron LeMasters - on the danish approach to skiing over the past ten years. Thank You.
Best regards,
Rasmus Lundby
Danish Interski participant 1999, 2003, 2007 and 2011. See You in 2015!
RasmusLundby 9 months ago