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  • Is it just me, or this is Hitchcocks most beautiful masterpiece?

  • anne massey was a much better Mrs. Danvers. i DO NOT like this version of REBECCA

  • I hated maxim in the book and now after seeing the movie, i hate him even more.

  • when you're not into this, you're just not into it. its' stupid that she feels so helpless. it doesn't make sense.

  • Mrs. Danvers is a vampire.

  • what a twist!

  • what the fuck mrs danvers is the biggest psycho out!

  • 5 people don't like to be bored

  • that evil witch! she should jump outa window!

  • why don't they kiss? they're supposed to kiss!

  • I don' get it....which part of the sentence "I know there is Rebecca laying on the cabin floor, because I put her there" indicates that he still loves Rebecca? I love the movie but I have the feeling that the order of these sentences should be different....like first "i hated her"...then "I killed her"...I love this film, but I don't get the logic here.

    Is there anyone, who does?

  • I would not be surprised if Cloris Leachman used Mrs. Danvers as a model for her role as Frau Blücher in Mel Brooks' Frankenstein.

  • 3 people with mental problems....

  • go on...go on... don't be afraid...

    whoah who would not freak out with those devilish words!?

  • Mrs. Danvers reminds me of Mrs. Dudley in The Haunting (1963).

  • @brgvt97 "In the night.....in the dark!!"

  • @TheMoodyGuru Exactly. Who's creepier, Mrs. Danvers or Mrs. Dudley?

  • @brgvt97 Oh definitely Danvers! She gives me goosebumps. I think you could easily bamboozle Mrs Dudley, she doesn't strike me as the scheming type. The Haunting is one of my all time favourite films, it still scares me to this day. I like to watch it alone very late at night with the lights out 'cos I'm odd like that, same with Night of the Demon and City of the Dead. Every Halloween without fail......triple bill!

  • @TheMoodyGuru I agree. Mrs. Dudley is spooky/creepy, but she does smile at one point in the movie. I don't think Mrs. Danvers smiles ever. I watch The Haunting with the lights out, also. I also watch The Innocents (1961), The Changeling (1980), and The Legend of Hell House (1973) with the lights out. All are great movies. Have you seen them?

  • @brgvt97 Nope, nope and nope. But I just Googled the trailers for them and can see myself having an all out binge at Amazon verrrrry soon! I'm surprised The Innocents slipped by me, I love Deborah Kerr. She was brilliant in Black Narcissus. I'm a bit of a Powell/Pressburger nut actually. By the way, for a real cheese & ham pizza you really need to see Theatre Of Blood with Vincent Price, also 1973. First time I saw it it was listed in the TV guide as 'Theatre Of Blonde'. Oh how I laughed :-)

  • @TheMoodyGuru You're in for a treat, because I think you'll like those movies I mentioned. I bought The Innocents and The Legend of Hell House through Amazon. I bought The Changeling at FYE. I'll check out Theatre of Blood. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @brgvt97 No worries! :-)

  • Of course, in the book he really *did* kill Rebecca. No excuses like in the movie.

  • my god that maid is just pure evil! >-<

  • OH MAAAAAAN. That moment where Maxim confesses with resolute indifference and calmness, and then turns to Mrs. De Winter and says "will you look into my eyes and tell me that you love me now?" and everything that needs to be said and everything Maxim has done and has endured is there in his eyes -- Laurence Olivier's genius in all its glory. What an actor.

  • Mrs. Danvers is under the belief that Rebecca had Drowned and that Maxim was terribly in love with Rebecca "night after night, walking up and down"-- when it turned out the "walking up and down" was Maxim pacing in delirium after he murdered Rebecca. Danvers was neurotic, but she was keeping maxim faithful and devoted to his first wife. But is he to be doomed to a life of misery all alone?

  • Every one has a Rebecca in one's own mind. It's the beauty of this film.

  • every one has a Rebecca in their own mind. It's the beauty of this film.

  • 9.28.... you know, if she had asked more questions and stopped being so ignorantly silent, she might have avoided so much!

    also...in the book. Maxim Shot rebecca and killed her intentionally. I don't blame him, rebecca provoked him, and as we hear at the end, with good reason.

  • Normally, I hate to see a film before reading the book it is based off of. With Rebecca, though, it was different. Surprisingly, when I realized that there was a "Rebecca" book, and I read it, I was really happy that I'd seen the movie first! :) Joan and Laurence and the others had all done such a wonderful job in the film, that I loved being able to picture them as the characters while reading the book. (And it's such a wonderful book, too... :) )

  • oh, it's so wonderful and excited!!!! I love that moment when Maxim says that He NEVER LOVE REBECCA!!!

  • The first thing I would do is fire that old biddy!

  • A truly menacing scene when Mrs. Danvers tries to persuade Mrs. De Winter to jump - brilliantly played.

  • Great scene from s great movie. Mrs Danvers is played by Judith Anderson. She was originally an Australian and I can detect a faint trace of Australian intonation in her voice. Without her malicious and menacing role, Rebecca would not have been as great as it is.

  • She is REALLY relived that Maxim had NEVER EVER loved Rebecca!!

  • Now that's a real "Dun Dun Dunnnnnn" moment!!

  • aww damn i read the comment b4 i got to the i hated her part

  • Danvers is a creep. Just imagine what Max would have felt like if Joan Fontaine had jumped. He'd have blamed himself.

  • whooooooooaaaaa 

  • Denver that bitch

  • "Will you look into my eyes and tell me that you love me now?" Chills everywhere. Laurence Olivier played this role so brilliantly.

  • uhhh I just read the book and I have to say, this is not what I expected from the movie. There is just something about the charaters Max and Mrs. Danvers that make me cring.

  • "I opened a window for you" as in please feel free to jump out of it.

  • @BigMamaJamma That is so funny!

  • They would have been perfect for each other had it not been for the first Mrs. de Winter

  • @aDieuSeul  then no story

  • shes a devil

  • i love that when he said I hated her she sort of smiled as if she was thinking he hated her YEEESSSS HA HA IN YOUR FACE MRS DANVERS

  • The woman who played Mrs. Danvers did very well, but i think she looks a little young compared to how they made it seem in the book. She def. nailed the creepy part though.

  • "why don't you...? why don't you...?"

    terrifying! a wonderfully shot moment

  • The maid was excellent

    She creeped out everyone!

  • The woman who plays Mrs. Danvers is a genius.

  • @rosesfororion oh yes, indeed. Judith Anderson was a class actress of her time. I've just seen her in great roles, like Big Momma in the film Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

  • ok, what's wrong with this fool...

    :/

  • mrs. danvers suld hav jumped off the balcony

  • better not let Danvers get a hold of the body

  • If thats the woman who played Mrs Danvers, Absolutely. She is chilling and I hate her. Brilliant acting. I cant stand what she done to the new Mrs De Winter. She is so unbelievably nice and sweet.

  • OH DAMNNN

  • Judith Anderson was robbed of the Best Supporting Actress Oscar!

  • What an absolute COW!!!!

  • MAXIN KILLED REBECCA. HE SHOT HER IN THE CABIN, THEN DROWNED HER IN HER BOAT. hahaa just thought id clear that up (:

  • I like that look of horror mixed with elation on her face when Max says he hated Rebecca.

  • Saaame, i'm so in love with Joan Fontaine. <3, i'm a bit obsessed with her at the moment lol.

    I'm glad they changed the way Rebecca died. I mean, I personally would not be relieved if I found out my husband had shot his previous wife, no matter how much of a bitch she was supposed to have been. It's much more...modern...that de Winter 2 would stand by Max knowing he killed his wife by accident, as opposed to murdering her.

  • @toothbrush55 They changed the ending for the movie because at the time Hollywood couldn't show a murderer not being pusnished for the crime. I always felt that the second Mrs De Winter for all her meekness felt elated that her husband hated Rebecca enough to kill her. Then there was no doubt and also knowing the secret gave her finally some power in a relationship where she had had none previously.

  • @toothbrush55 that's not the reason the cause of death was changed, though. Hitcock would not have been allowed to put out a movie where a murderer gets away without any sort of punishment. The way the first Mrs. DeWinter died had to change in order to please the audience in 1940, not to make it more "Modern". Hitchcock would have been more than happy to leave Mr. DeWinter a murderer.

  • girlfriend is just going through. everytime she hears some new news, she backs away in shock.

  • Seems like some sort of demonic possession with Mrs. Danvers.

  • This movie would have been better if they stuck to the novel.

    =/

  • No it wouldn't have

  • What did they change? I've only seen the movie and the musical.

  • Maxim killed Rebecca.

    In the movie, Rebecca "tripped and hit her head".

    They also cut out quite a bit from the book.

  • In the musical as well, (or at least in our Hungarian version) Rebecca fell and hit her head while having a quarrell with Maxim - Max pushed her, she hit her head and died. (there is a song where Maxim tells the story)

    But in the book, Max shot her.

  • While the death is not accurate I still appreciate the fact that they stayed true to Maxim killing her.

    It bugs me though when the movie/musical changes it and it isn't necessarily better.

  • @Artemis6769 They had to change it as Hollywood couldn't at that time show a murderer not being punished for his crime.

  • Danvers at 1:53 freakin' scary

  • What's that expression on her face at the very end? Amazement yes, but also joy at the news Max hated Rebecca?

    The 2nd Mrs. de Winter certainly seems to become very strong after this scene.

  • oh snap , '' i hated her'' dun dun dunnnnnnn 9:29

  • 9:27 - I remember the first time I saw this movie I was floored when he said that. Hitchcock et al had me totally fooled.

  • I hadn't noticed how much they skipped from the book!

    Well, it makes it easier to go along I suppose.

  • i love this book

  • a lil immature lala

  • Oh yes. There are some moments in life one can call-up verbatum from memory. I had just come on duty that afternoon. I walked into my office there at The Westwood Marquis, picked up the ringing phone,and heard on the other end this VOICE, intoning, "This is Lord Olivier in the Penthouse". And promptly went into shock. A friend of mine reminded me later that I had the semi-surrealistic experience of describing to his "Lordship" what a "Reuben Sandwich" was!

  • reedit: "Frank is it. . . ?"

    "yes, it's Rebecca's"

    "How did they recognize it?"

    "it was MONOGRAMMED! How else you did you think, you IDIOT?!  - Simple, simple girl. Now, stop gawking and make yourself useful, as Mrs. De Winter would have known what to do!"

  • edit: "Frank is it. . .?"

    "Yes, it's Rebecca's."

    "How do they recognize it?"

    "It was Monogrammed."

  • Thank you for putting this up Bront. I've always had mixed feelings about this movie. Just sad. It's interesting that when you're young you don't think these kind of situations didn't exhist. You find out when you're older that people just hid them. Like a wild woman like Rebecca. Now we know that people are born all the time without consciences. Serial killers, etc. After watching this again, I keep wondering what a young girl would fall in love with. A depressed middle aged man?

  • Chloris Leachman did a great Danvers parody in Young Frankenstein

  • haha, i know, right!! i loved ot!

  • ooh really? whwere can i find it?

  • I didn't even know it ws a Danvers parody guess because of the thick accent she put on as well.

  • BEST MOMENT : "You thought I loved Rebecca, you thought that? I hated her."

  • sends shivers down my spine when he says that!!

  • @xforcedsilencex Victory is miiiine!!

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  • what a jerk :P

  • how'd her hair get out of those perfect ringlets in so short a time?

  • In the book at least it was a wig

  • True, in the book she's said to have straight hair, so she wears a wig to get those perfect ringlets. It's also true that a whole night has passed when she arrives to the beach. In the book it's a much longer time, though.

  • Because it happened "last night". A whole night passed in between the scenes.

  • @jsmitty1000 The shot of the Grandfather clock in the Hall is suppose to signify the passing of Time.

  • Does anyone else think that there is something slightly sensual about the scene in the first 2.20 minutes? As if Mrs Danvers is almost pretending that the 2nd Mrs De Winter is Rebecca, in a really depraved way?

  • This is going to drive me mad- I am writing an essay on this very scene and I have watched it about 50 times again and again, brilliant scene though, Hitchcock is an absolute genius.

  • Their height difference at 5:48 is much less (and more realistic since he was 5'9" and she's 5'3") than at 8:58. lol

  • thats because in the second part he is standing on the step of the fireplace.

  • wow this clip ends at the exact peak of the scene haha

  • judith anderson (mrs danvers) is a genius actress. no wonder she was given the dame. shes the best mrs danvers. truly creepy and mad.

  • So very true. No one could ever play her better. Not even in their dreams.

  • My theory is Mrs. Danvers got jealous of Rebecca and Maxim's relationship and she arranged the sailing accident or did it herself or something.

  • No, wait and see.

  • Not at all. You have her wrong.

  • Not at all. You have it wrong.

  • That evil wench!!! I'd kill her for making me look like a fool!!!!

  • 'Why don't you? Why don't you?' My God, Hitchcock WAS a genius.

  • Here's a cute story that has nothing to do with "Rebecca": Years ago, I worked in the room service department of a luxury hotel in Westwood,Ca. One afternoon, after just checking-in, I picked-up the phone in the office and on the other-end, a voice:

    "This is Lord Olivier in the Penthouse". He was staying there with his son whose name, like mine, was also Richard. On that occasion, I had the rather bizarre experience of explaining to LAURENCE OLIVIER what the contents of a "Reuben Sandwich" was!

  • Too cool!!!!

  • He referred to himself as "Lord" Olivier? how pretentious! He is - or was - a very attractive man, I must say.

  • @TheOobster He liked everybody to call him "Larry." He probably said what he did because if he'd said "this is Larry in the penthouse," nobody would have known who was speaking.

  • A little firing of Mrs. Danvers would do you better, child.

  • i guess her character was so young, sensative and good she couldnt even comprehend the idea of firing the help. lol :)

  • I was jumping up and down when I read the part when he was like,'You thought I loved Rebecca? I hated her!"

  • I LOVE THIS BOOK!

    I was texting my bf when I waswatching this and I had this sudden desire to call him darling xD

  • It's been years since I've read the book, so I have a quick question. Did Danvers know Maxim hated Rebecca before all this came out?

  • No. Danvers thought Maxim was crazy about Rebecca. I suggest curling up with a glass of wine and picking up that book again! :D I must have read it about 5 times. Don't ask how many I've seen this movie.

  • It was Rebecca's body in the boat!

  • naaaw

  • "You're over-wrought madam." Bwahahahaha!

  • Mrs. Danvers......UR A SICK BITCH!!!!

  • You think so? I think she's misunderstood. She brought up Rebecca since she was a child, she was like a mother to her. And it hurts her to see someone else take her place. In the book she's much more emotional and cries at least three times. If we heard the story through her persepctive, perhaps we'd think differently of her.

  • You can feel sympathy for Mrs Danvers - but she is one of the greatest female villains of all time. A real monster.

  • that may be so, but we find out in the story that Rebecca was a dispicable charactor, why would Mrs Danvers love her unless she herself was a similar person? If she is similar to Rebecca, then she doesn't deserve so much sympathy

  • The only point of view of Rebecca we really know in detail, is Maxim's. We see Rebecca through mainly his eyes, to him Rebecca was a monster. To Mrs. Danvers, Rebecca was someone to look up to. Rebecca had good qualities too- she was a leader, she was smart, independant, stylish, charming, funny, and very organized. If you think about it, she was everything Mrs. Danvers wasn't. Mrs. Danvers was dull, plain, unattractive, and not funny or charming.

  • Max hated Rebecca, Ben, the slow witted man who hung around the cabin didn't like her, she was cruel to him. Crawley, the man who managed the estate did not like her. Maybe you are right about Mrs Danvers not being like her, but even in envying her, you have to wonder about Danver's charactor. Why would someone envy someone who was cold and cruel, even if she did have some attractive superficial qualities? So do serial killers have their good points.

  • Mrs. Danvers was blinded with all of Rebecca's admirable qualitties. And let's face it, she's not very sane. But unless we were to hear the story from Rebecca's point of view, I don't see how we could be so firmly believe that she was, without a doubt, a terrible person. I never thought Rebecca was kind, but maybe she was troubled. Guess it just has to do with opinion.

  • The writer had everyone who knew Rebecca disliking her, except for the only other 2 unlikable characters, Mrs. Danvers, & Favell, an alcoholic womanizing blackmailer. Thats where U got my opinion. The whole point of the novel was the finding out about her unsavory character, & the second Mrs De Winter finally seeing the truth is the main turning point, the anticlimax of the story - If there was a different side to R, the writer would have made it part of the story. Or written a "Rebecca 2"

  • The writer, sympathized with Rebecca, she said so once herslef. But aside from the characters we get to know, everyone else "loved Rebecca". The writer does not have to write another book to follow Rebecca just to get her point across. It's left up to the reader to concluded what her or she thinks Rebecca was like.

  • Naturally, she loved Rebecca because she stood for everything she couldn't. We never get to see Rebecca in person, we only know her through the words and acts of others. So we can't really judge her then. She- like many other "horrible" characters in movies, could very well be misunderstood.

  • Did you read the book? The book made it quite clear that rebecca was not a nice person, Rebecca herself laughed in Max's face on the cliff in Monte Carlo 4 days after they were married, when she told him all about herself. Favil, who was Rebecca's dearest friend when she was alive, was a total lowlife....Birds of a feather flock together....Mrs Danvers may have loved and missed Rebecca, but that did not give her the right to be cruel.

  • we also need to consider the time period of the story, Rebecca may have been troubled...but back in 1938 people were responsible for their actions, we didn't have the mentality where everything we do can be traced back to our parents being mean to us etc. Only recently has being troubled become an acceptable excuse for evil behavior. I think the author's depiction of Rebecca can b taken at face value, with no hidden meanings. Interesting how people can see things so differently.

  • It is interesting, but I've never been one to follow the general idea of people. I try to find the deeper meaning. That may be true, but we certainley have the mentality now, and I refuse to conclude Rebecca as a horrible devil without getting to know her personally. I don't want to add up a totally inaccurate conclusion based on a bunch of stray facts about her. I believe there's more to Rebecca than what we get to know. We'll never know her true story and so I would like to stick with my idea.

  • there is another book which was written as a follow up to rebecca called rebecca's tale which is about her when she was alive i think. you may consider reading that to decide yourself about her but its not by the same author so the real intended character may not be portrayd properly.

  • I have read the book. And I read another one titled "Mrs. de Winter". My views remained unchanged.

  • No, she didn't bring up Rebecca. She said that she had come to Manderley when Rebecca had been a bride.

  • Yes she did. She says so in the book and the book is the original thing, not the movie. She raised her and moved with her to Manderely when Rebecca wed Maxim.

  • Ah really, you're right. I just read it in the book. Thanks :)

  • You're welcome :)

  • kind of serves her right for listening to a horrible woman like Mrs. Danvers. You'd think she would know better.

  • I would never have assumed that he murdered Rebecca. Rebecca that was adored by everyone. Maxim that was brave to kill Rebecca.

  • max knew the real rebecca

  • Yeach. He knew how evil she was. Doesn't that kinda creep you out? How people who seem to have the perfect life can be evil. How did evil come into the world?

  • The #1 angel of YHWH brought war into heaven & into this world. Blame him, for he deserves censure. Some love evil & belong to him. Very sad.

  • Yes, you're right. Evil came out into the world that way, but here is another question, why did God let evil into the world?

  • Have you ever read the book of John the Baptist?

  • Yes.

  • What does YHWH mean? I've never heard of it or seen it, whatever it is.

  • I would be terribly confused if i were her.

  • (7:57) "Would you look into my eyes and tell me that you love me now?" Maxim, you could murder a hundred Rebeccas for all I care and I'd say I LOVE YOU!

  • i would say the same!

    laurence olivier played a perfect husband and lover in this movie. no women could resist his charm (even though in real life his was gay).

  • Was he? Were his marriages a fake?

    I'd say it's more likely he was heterosexual but open to "sexual adventures".

  • at least he was bi. but i have to agree that he was very attractive person to both women and men.

  • I don't know about men (being a woman), but I can absolutely confirm: he attracts women... lol

  • calybdis,

    i guess you are right it is not accurate to say he was gay. i read some ducoments that he did have male lover.

    "the best comments about 'rebecca'" was for velocikat's commnent. he/she said "you can murder 100 rebeccas...". that was wonderful!

    sure, laurence is a very attractive person, for all people with all different sextual orientations...lol

  • YT showed as if your "the best comment for this movie" was an answer to my comment... (It appeared in this thread at 1st, and YT sent me a message on about your comment)

    Oh, well, nothing is perfect... lol

    Sorry for the misunderstanding.

  • looks like this youtube program has problem to put posts to where they belong... lol

    well, olivier did make mr. de winter such an attractive man (esp. to women:), however, in the book, i believe he didn't appear to be such a character. i think the book is all about the psychological conflict between current and previous mrs. de winter. it is absolutely my favorite book ever.