His comparision to use Stephen Hawkings to justify breeding deformed dogs for the showring is absolutely abhorrent and he should apologise to Mr Hawkings for making such a crass and arrogant comment.
Attempting to justify the the cruel breeding practises of dog breeding is bad enough but that hiked to up to a whole other level. The man is shameless and devoid of basic humility.
I should make it clear that I was talking about Finnish Spitz in the UK where the incidence of both liver damage and epilepsy is statistically insignificant - because they have been carefully bred.
To be honest David would have done better to keep his mouth shut and thank his lucky stars that he didn't appear in the programme. He needs to learn that after "Pedigree Dogs Exposed" and the aftermath that followed, he is no longer dealing with an uninformed public. He also needs to lose his condescending "we breeders know best" attitude. They quite obviously do not or the dogs wouldn't be in the mess they are in at the moment.
Is it just me or are so called 'Dog Experts' not allowed to be dog lovers also? I think we all know (or are) ordinary decent people that will do all we can to ensure the well being of out beloved pets, but those who claim to be experts, repeatedly prove by their actions that health will always take a second place to aesthetics. I feel terrible for the dogs, but I can't help feeling relieved that these type of people weren't my parents.
The KC have seen fit to ban matings between father and daughter, the COi of these matings is 25% as you so explained in your line breeding lesson this is the likelihood that both alleles on any given locus will be the same
So why are COis of over 25% achieved in many if not most showdogs following your linebreeding plans allowed and even encouraged by both yourself and the KC The genetic result is the same is it not?
It's not accurate to say that "many if not most showdogs" have COIs over 25 per cent. But certainly some do - and indeed there are some dogs with COIs double that and higher. Sweden discourages matings that produce puppies with a COI of higher than 6.25 per cent (the equivalent of first cousins); not sure iif that would be appropriate here, but certainly genetic diversity is something still to be addressed by the Kennel Club.
Some of you did not listen very well. Incidentally, I made two mistakes which I am pleased to correct .
I was referring to the health of Finnish Spitz in the UK. I am well aware of the situation in Finland but by careful selective breeding we have ensured that the problems here in the UK are statistically insignificant.
I knew of some problems with CKCS but did not realise they were so widespread. For the rest I am happy with my responses - and understand why my contribution was not used!
If I knew what one of those was retrieverman! I'd be able to answer. I can tell you there is total balderdash in there. Very funny bladderdash though.
His comparison of Pedigree dogs to Stephen Hawking kinda works against him, because by his own words; the dogs are bred for their appearance, not their minds. If Hawking was subject to breed standards, he would have been 'culled' because he didn't follow the desired physical standards of a typical human.
Dog people in my experience pick and choose analogies to human experience to suit their arguments (flawed arguments in most cases). Had Jemima Harrison asked Mr Cavill how distasteful father daughter matings or similar are he would have replied "Ah but you cannot compare them to the morals we hold dear as people - they are just dogs." It's called having your cake and eating it although my guess is Retreiverman1 will have a better word for it.
Shameful! He basically admits nothing matters as long as the dog is pretty! They deliver themselves into the anti-pet AR crowd with a bow on, don't they?
His comparision to use Stephen Hawkings to justify breeding deformed dogs for the showring is absolutely abhorrent and he should apologise to Mr Hawkings for making such a crass and arrogant comment.
Attempting to justify the the cruel breeding practises of dog breeding is bad enough but that hiked to up to a whole other level. The man is shameless and devoid of basic humility.
ilah2001 5 months ago
I should make it clear that I was talking about Finnish Spitz in the UK where the incidence of both liver damage and epilepsy is statistically insignificant - because they have been carefully bred.
davidcavill 6 months ago
I can see why he was left outa the video,its cringeworthy.
OurnameisLegion66 8 months ago
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OurnameisLegion66 8 months ago
BOYKOT Crufts!!
DanmarkMaria 1 year ago
can you post the whole interview ?? i would love to see it all as would many others
ovcharkasuk 1 year ago
To be honest David would have done better to keep his mouth shut and thank his lucky stars that he didn't appear in the programme. He needs to learn that after "Pedigree Dogs Exposed" and the aftermath that followed, he is no longer dealing with an uninformed public. He also needs to lose his condescending "we breeders know best" attitude. They quite obviously do not or the dogs wouldn't be in the mess they are in at the moment.
DerPfaffe 2 years ago 2
Is it just me or are so called 'Dog Experts' not allowed to be dog lovers also? I think we all know (or are) ordinary decent people that will do all we can to ensure the well being of out beloved pets, but those who claim to be experts, repeatedly prove by their actions that health will always take a second place to aesthetics. I feel terrible for the dogs, but I can't help feeling relieved that these type of people weren't my parents.
EireShane 2 years ago
Was this a spoof video??? Lol :-) it certainly made me chuckle...Mr Cavill belongs in a Borat or Bruno film!!! What a clown!
vikkibrowning122 2 years ago
what a twonk!
funkbat 2 years ago 6
The KC have seen fit to ban matings between father and daughter, the COi of these matings is 25% as you so explained in your line breeding lesson this is the likelihood that both alleles on any given locus will be the same
So why are COis of over 25% achieved in many if not most showdogs following your linebreeding plans allowed and even encouraged by both yourself and the KC The genetic result is the same is it not?
57tictac 2 years ago
It's not accurate to say that "many if not most showdogs" have COIs over 25 per cent. But certainly some do - and indeed there are some dogs with COIs double that and higher. Sweden discourages matings that produce puppies with a COI of higher than 6.25 per cent (the equivalent of first cousins); not sure iif that would be appropriate here, but certainly genetic diversity is something still to be addressed by the Kennel Club.
jemimaharrison 2 years ago
Some of you did not listen very well. Incidentally, I made two mistakes which I am pleased to correct .
I was referring to the health of Finnish Spitz in the UK. I am well aware of the situation in Finland but by careful selective breeding we have ensured that the problems here in the UK are statistically insignificant.
I knew of some problems with CKCS but did not realise they were so widespread. For the rest I am happy with my responses - and understand why my contribution was not used!
davidcavill 2 years ago
Doesn't It make you proud of the British show breeder?
japchin1 2 years ago
Thank you
davidcavill 2 years ago
Does he say anything that isn't a canard or a non sequitur?
Retrieverman1 2 years ago
If I knew what one of those was retrieverman! I'd be able to answer. I can tell you there is total balderdash in there. Very funny bladderdash though.
dorothysdog 2 years ago
His comparison of Pedigree dogs to Stephen Hawking kinda works against him, because by his own words; the dogs are bred for their appearance, not their minds. If Hawking was subject to breed standards, he would have been 'culled' because he didn't follow the desired physical standards of a typical human.
EireShane 2 years ago
Dog people in my experience pick and choose analogies to human experience to suit their arguments (flawed arguments in most cases). Had Jemima Harrison asked Mr Cavill how distasteful father daughter matings or similar are he would have replied "Ah but you cannot compare them to the morals we hold dear as people - they are just dogs." It's called having your cake and eating it although my guess is Retreiverman1 will have a better word for it.
dorothysdog 2 years ago
Shameful! He basically admits nothing matters as long as the dog is pretty! They deliver themselves into the anti-pet AR crowd with a bow on, don't they?
Rietto 2 years ago
This man is something. He's like the Kennel Club's Baghdad Bob!
Retrieverman1 2 years ago 7