Although HDGD is Korean martial art, Why doesn't they use the Korean sword? KURIGATA and SAGEO are the features of Japanese sword. It is the similar Japanese sword. I never find such the Korean old sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
For 李氏朝鮮 Korea 500 years of the Confucian country, I idealized the political idea of Confucius. Therefore it deviated from the mainstream, and the military officer who I regarded a civil officer as important, and diminished the position of the military officer low went out of fashion.
The martial arts do not develop in such an environment, too.
(as for what there was only as for police function)
본국검 本国劒 (KoreanSword) From 무예도보통지(武藝圖譜通志): It appears Wubei Zhi ( 武備志) written by Mao Yuanyi (茅元儀) acquired the book of sword combat from Chosun considering he compared Chosun sword methods with Dang Un's. It is obvious Chosun Had already developed the manual of Bon Guk Gum ( 본국검 本国劒) as they were compared to Japanese Ssangsu.
Why does the Japanese accuse the forged Korea samurai and Korea martial arts?
As for the reason, Korea samurai and the Korea martial arts of the imitation insist on a genuine Japanese samurai and the origin of the martial arts, and this is because it pollutes a Japanese samurai and the honor of the martial arts, and an usurption does Japan samurai culture.
Secondly, "do" of "Gum-do" means 'route' or 'path' in Chinese and 'principle' or 'way' in Japanese. But Korea never had conception of "do" in its history. It's the proof that gumdo is just copy of Kendo. I'm not accusing them for copying, but I just want them to stop lying and fabricating history.
First off,there is no principle in Haidon Gumdo. It doesn't have Iai or Kata because its style was not created for fighting but just dancing performance. 2:48 How can swordsman show his back to the enemy? Not practical at all.
what just a few people know is that haidong gumdo is the extraction of the ninja sword style and kendo is of the samurais you can just see it, look the diferences of this both beautiful ways of the sword. This info cant be founded on internet, event if you ask to a master he would lie you, I get the info travelilng the world and i decide to give it to the people ho is saying bad stuff about this art both art good arts they are just diferent THE TRUTH IS CLEARLY FOR THE ONE HO WANTS TO SEE IT XD
Kumdo/Gumdo is the Korean pronunciation of Kendo and it was introduced into the Korean Peninsula from Japan during the period of the Japanese protectorate and annexation (1895-1945). Before that martial arts didn't exist in Korea. So it's never a traditional Korean martial art from ancient times.
It's true that Koreans began learning sword skills from Chinese and they called it 本國劍 / 本国剣 in the 18th century, but it didn't catch on.
The first time Koreans used the word "HaedongKumdo / 海東剣道" was in about 1982. It's not so long ago. In short, it's a fraud that they claim HaedongKumdo is a Korean traditional martial art.
Incidentally, the parties have already pleaded guilty to the HaedongKumdo fraud in a Korean court.
What Koreans are doing now is a creation based on Japanese Kendo. But because the new martial art required Koreans to make a difference from Kendo, they adopted flashy action stunts like jumping or spinning.
First, you Koreans must set out the records of HaedongKumdo before 1970s if you can.
How about videos? Is there a film until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?
How about pictures? Is there a picture until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?
How about historical records? Since the 17th century many Westerners stayed in the Korean Peninsula. They wrote about Korean archery but any swordplay or unarmed martial art doesn't appear in those records. Don't you find this strange?
You Koreans had better admit HaedongKumdo is a fraud and stop spreading lies immediately.
South Korea begins to copy the Japanese martial arts from the late 20th century. Individual martial arts was not developed in the Joseon Dynasty(Korea). Taekwondo, Haidong Gumdo, Kumdo, Hapkido, Yudo is nothing to the history of Korea.
Taekwondo copied the Shotokan Karate. Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kendo. Hapkido copied the Daitoryu Jujutsu and Aikido. Yudo copied Judo. Hwa Rang Do is not historical martial arts. Hwa Rang is dancer in the Silla and Kogryo Dynasty.
@unkeihokusai Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kendo, a si? cuantas clases de Haidong has visto yo he visto muchas de kendo y te puedo decir que no tienen nada que ver una con la otra para criticar hay que saber lo que se critica to you? Haidong few classes I've seen seen a lot of kendo and I can tell you have nothing to do with each other to criticize is to know what is criticized
Japanese sword methods is separated about one hundred or more,Yagyu-shnganryu,Yagyu-shinkageryu,Muso-shindenryu,Jigo-tenshinryu etc...since the families or clans had developed respectively the sword method to fight against climate and climate in age of civil strife ;Sengoku era(戦国時代).
i know Gumdo or Kumudo are style of Korean sword method,but why they didn't have any load...then they become play twiddle diddle dancing with Katana now?...
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu yo practico haidong gumdo desde hace 8 años y veo que algunos japoneses o practicantes de iaido o kendo critican nuestra tecnica, mi pregunta? como puedes criticar algo que no conoces Haidong Gumdo I practice for 8 years and I see some Japanese or iaido or kendo practitioners criticize our technique, my question? how can you criticize something you do not know
hola! agradezca a Espana en el desastre de Fukushima.we like flamenco,many women learn the class in Japan.i have learned Aikido about 20 years and Iaido for a few years only.i am greenness it is shorter career then must study more.well,you mistook.people getting really angry are just regular people in Japan.since Bushido prohibit to pass judgment each other.then if my act come out to my teacher,i will be ban.
the Clans have their own form,we can answer the famous Samurai's name when seeing the form.for example,setting up Katana on right head is Musashi's form and forming the end of Katana downward to left side shoestring catch like quarter moon is Jyubei Yagyu,but its are glitz and eccentrically for the view of technic basically.
Korean style is cool but its like TV show and the form is assembled discretely....
why Japanese are confused to Korean Gumdo and Kumdo....pls image that if Japanese swing around rapier that French fencing sword like cheerleading with dressing English kelt,and then the playing would be popular and spread in many country....suddenly the Japanese make public like that "Japacing is Japanese traditional martial art,and Kelt is Japanese wear originally!!
it is different art originally since Japacing doesn't wear any armor."
i must say Gumdo is just copied the surface of Japanese Kendo only without the reason(理)and Samurai spirits.this is not Budo(武道) anymore,Korean changed worst as Korean twiddle leaping dance.
stop to exhibit fake Korean Budo in the Japan Expo in Paris!!!!
watch?v=PVMwXztivL0
watch?v=7Hcq3kb792g (French)
watch?v=C7BoI4gWXN4
watch?v=ImWL-N582ZU
pls think and understand deeply the reason (理) and natural rule(自然法則).
@toro1 Estoy de acuerdo contigo; uno no puede criticar lo que no conoce, pero hasta cierto punto un kendoka se puede dar idea sobre el haidong gumdo. Por ejemplo, lo movimientos son demasiado estilizados y gastan energía de manera poco útil, lo cual lo hace poco práctico como arte marcial. De lo demás no comento porque no sé.
@lrodrigomoreno ok rodrigo respeto tu opinion aunque si se pued eme gustaria saber en detalle cuales consideras los mas estilizados a mi me gusta la critica constructiva GRACIAS
@toro1 Me agrada que no lo tomes a mal. No estoy muy seguro de a que te refieres con tu pregunta. Me lo podrías aclarar por favor? Para no contestar babosadas.
William Elliot Griffis 『Korea the Hermit Nation』（1882）
Korea has no samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country.
I don't know about some of you, but I judge swordsmanship by skill and skill alone. Who cares where it comes from, just as long as the swordsman/s show skill.
This event is the fake which imitated a Japanese sword. A Japanese sword is a Japanese soul. >Dear Korean Please do not steal Japanese culture & soul. 日本の魂である日本刀をさも韓国文化のように振舞うのはやめていただきたい
there is never anything completely new in this world, everything finds it origins in something else. Shall i ask you to stop using kanji surely you are not a hipocrite are you? Or do you propose that kanji is of Japanese origin?
"Koreans do not still...what?" I was so shock by your words, please look outside of the frame, we actually taught you guys how to make swords in 5th~6th centuries. You are not saying that only japanese used sword in Asia, are you?
Maybe if Kendo decided to accept Gumdo and then make tournaments everyone would benefit and maybe this can lead to an Olympic event! But Japan will get the credit for it! If I was the government of Japn, I would suggest this and enter the event with fencing. Everyone would benefit right? Not arugue senselessly! Nothing will change and only feels will be hurt- maybe even build more hatred! Victums of ignorance and prejudice!
Respect is to call Kendo, not Gum-do. Only Korea said it Gum-do while all other countries call it Kendo. Sounds like it is originated in Korea. Like Taekwon-do which is copy of Karate. Let's start from there.
It's not respect its language. In Japanese sword is "ken" in Korean Sword is "Gum" They both mean "the way of the sword" This video is Haidog Gumdo, which isn't the same Gumdo as the other gumdo. I believe this one came from China.
no mister Gosling if that was the then japanese should call kempo what?? kungfu? do us all a fovour and get yourself educated before you talk nonsense...
It does amuse me how people fall in love with one thing and that alot of "martial artists" value "tradition" more than development. Even traditions came from other traditions.... open your eyes, think big, diversity and change is a beautiful thing... you do enjoy using the internet dont you?
Dude, Kendo does accept Gumdo, there are many Korean Kendo champions, Ken means sword in Japanese, while Gum means sword in Korean. The type of Kendo practiced where competitors wear armor is from Japan, but it became popular in Korea during the occupation. Most Korean practitioners acknowlege this.
There probably is a ww2 issue behind it, and Koreans would probably say something like "Gumdo goes back thousands of years in Korea to the three kingdoms, blah blah blah," but for the most part the chinese charecters for Korean and Japanese arts are the same. Karate becomes Goang soo do, both meaning the way of the empty hand. Judo becomes Yoodo, I'm not sure with this one but in Japanese you would have to check the "Kanji," in Korean you should check the "Hanja," (Chinese charecters)
Haedong gumdo has been traced back to the Kokyuro kingdom's Jang Baek sword fighting system that was established by general Yu Yu, and was modified later to use two handed swords.If you watch the video tape on Haedong gumdo you will notice that haedong gumdo is way different from Japanese sword fighting styles, and that it is not as flashy as the this video.
First of all most Korean people that study the gumdo that is similar to kendo all know it is a Japanese sport and never denied it so there is no deception involved. Most people think that all curved swords in Asia (not including scimitars) are Japanese or influenced by Japan, but that isn't true. Archaeologist found swords that resemble katanas dating back to kingdoms of Korea and China that were long gone before the Japanese katanas were made.
@_@00:50-00:55... Eso es el casi final de la forma Shimsang!!!! Qué chido se ve!!!! Why the hell does everybody disqualify haidong just because it's not "old enough"? It's not like japonese are all pioneers on martial arts, are they?
It varies by school. Some use point systems similar to Kendo with legal and illegal targets. Others use "first hit/ you're dead" where any hit is legal.
Some use soft padded armour and allow thrusts. Others don't use any armour and usually disallow thrusts.
To the 'mcdojo' commenter: I really doubt these guys do this for self defense, but for the coolness/traditional factor. My BJJ instructor teaches this also and he makes no claims to its validity in a street fight. Only that it's a really REALLY fun traditional martial art to learn.
both types are just as "traditional" and gumdo IS heavily influenced by kendo, but there are differences in the fighting styles. Kendo focuses on looking for openings and getting the perfect "one strike." Gumdo, on the other hand, focuses on compact, rapid attacks in order to create an opening and then how to exploit that opening. Both styles are just as effective as the other, although i'll admit, gumdo DOES look cooler.
i never said kendo was more tratitional i just have a tendency to write comments badly lol i meant that while kendo is more like sport fencing and enshin ryu and haidong gumdo are actual sword methods used in real life fights way back in oldie times.
Someone needs to do their homework. Haedong gumdo has been around for decades and is huge, with federations in over 6 countries. "mcdojo" arts are usually isolated, with only a handful of dojos. Also, traditional gumdo goes back centuries, almost as far back as kendo.
and another thing, "embarassingly flashy"? go ahead and tell me what you consider a "real" martial art and i'll bet i can find a dozen "embarassingly flashy" videos about it.
don't mind marz12aug. I checked out some of his videos and he's a Wanna be Jap. He doesn't know that a lot of asian cultures come from china and Korea was the first country to adopt them before it was adopted by Japanese. He doesn't even know the geography
i love this i am learning kumdo right now but i like haedong much more go KORea xD i only learning it cause nothing else i can learn from my current status
>>Korea had their own way of swordsmanship. However, during the Japanese occupation, the japanese ordered for all martial arts equipment across Korea to be destroyed including the swordsmanship of Korea. >>
Ha-ha. A Korean is funny.
Has the Korean forgotten traditional culture in only 35 years?
It is written that Korea despised martial arts with a Chinese document in the times of Korea dynasty.
I do it before a long way off than Japan annexes Korea in the time.
@marz12aug its mostly becos that kind of wearings are from asia not only japan
and pleace pleace dont post "Are they shameless people" to hastly its not nice to people like me that practice this martial art and even more whit the korean people
@marz12aug The movement is showy and unpolished???? Have you EVER known anyone who has studied this??? The movements are exact and precise, each one having a target on the body of the enemy. Japan, Korea, and China all have different kinds of clothes for different kinds of activities. And I wouldn't say any of this is an imitation. If there is anything not Korean then it's a result of Japan's 40 year long attempt to kill the Korean culture at the end of a gun.
@sanriuk Thanks for backing me up. And it's great to meet a fellow student of HDGD. I think I have an advantage because I study here in Korea. Where do you study?
@sanriuk No, I was unable to. I had only been learning for two months when the Championships rolled around. I see a lot of HDGD videos from Mexican martial artists. Is it really popular there??
@Braveanglo mhhh its not as popular as Taekwondo but it have some succes and a lot of pasionate Samurangs whith only 10 years in mexico i could say it is becoming to a realy strong dicipline. good 2 months now i feel old in december i made my first Dan
@sanriuk Congratulations on your 1st Dan!!!!!!!!!! I should be able to test for mine later next year. I've been training for 8 months now and I'm really in love with it. My master is really incredible. She's a 2nd or 3rd Dan in Taekwando and Hapkido respectively, and she encourages me to learn one of them. Still debating. But HDGD is my 1st love. I never realized that martial arts were so popular in Mexico. I'm really happy about that though. Mexico is an intriguing country.
@Braveanglo Mexico indeed ahve a lot of martial artist but we lack sponsors to develop more but even though we made it to develop a lot as far as we can. Yes Mexico is intriguing in some ways but the same as Korea and you are welcome to visit us any time contact us and we can give you a tour around the city.
@Braveanglo korea dont have original martial arts except for archery.however many times you koreans tell a lie,it never comes true. watch?v=Um0SWpssrMo watch?v=N0NObemdQDE
korean history is full of fabrication.i havent seen koreans show any evidence of their claim before.korea was one of the poorest countries in asia befor japans ruling.
@heishomon Korea was a hermit kingdom before Japan invaded. And if there is any lack of evidence it's Japan's fault. The Japanese tried to destroy the Korean language, culture, and history. So don't you DARE even IMPLY that Japan did any service to Korea by it's tyrannical 40 year ILLEGAL reign. And it doesn't make any damn sense for a country that has such a history of war to only be good at archery.
@Braveanglo at first, i want to say thank you korea for quake relief.
all grounds of koreans claim is based on fabricated history japan persecuted korea.watch?v=j5GegF6XcgE
how do you think even korean historical book says korea didnt have martial arts but archery?there are many evidences supporting me and no evidence supporting korea.it is perfectly ovbious which is fabricating history, japan or korea.
@heishomon thanks to japan, korea got many profits such as independence from china, education, train, medical treatment and so many modern conveniences.their lives were extended and the population doubled.i know korean's thought what bad is because of japan, what good is because of korea without any grounds.even korean scholars believe every japanese famous culture came from korea.but the fact is korea and its culture were mere a part of chinese dynasties and undeveloped.
@heishomon because of long history of colony and selfish nobles.
korea should not either conceal true history or imitate our culture but create original one from now on for yourselves.by the way, an annexation of korea by japan was legal.
@heishomon How in the FUCK can you say that the annexation of an INDEPENDENT country like Korea by Japan was LEGAL?? Korea was NOT part of China (no matter what China might have thought in their pursuit of "One China"). Korea may have given tribute to China but it was never a COLONY! Korea was ALWAYS independent from China. Japan tried for centuries to conquer Korea in order to get to China. Come over here and see the torture camps of the Japanese and THEN say it was legal!!!
watch?v=6pofK18-1ug and google "the treaty of shimonoseki"
属国清大 旗国麗高written on the first korean national flag means a national flag of korea,a colony of Great Qin.
the old books show each chinese dynasty ruled and treated korea as lower position.but your anscestors worshiped and tried to assimilate the han people,while despised other races and cultures by looking korea as mini-china.
@heishomon despised us and still had a deep-rooted prejudice against races.the koreans think brilliant korea has been always superior to and given wonderful culture barbarous japan,right?the annexation is just an excuse.history is interesting,isnt it?
according to japanese,chinese and even korean records,both Baekje and Silla were colonies of japan.who on earth can think a smaller and weaker nation surrounded by powers can keep independent?japan annexed korea in accordance with the international
i showed the proof enough for you to realize japan didnt destroy korea.its your turn to.who,when,where,why,whom,how tortured?teachers told you?as you know,continental culture unlike ours has allowed the peoples to tell a lie.as for korea,miserable history and vanity have highly promoted it.of course,your government know the true history.
@heishomon 1st: I AM NOT A KOREAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am an American with a history degree. 2nd: "no objection means consent"? That is the most backward, selfish, unenlightened argument I have ever heard. That's like saying the rape of a young girl by an older man is not rape because she didn't say the word "no" even though she was crying and obviously didn't want to have sex. 3rd: Neither one of us will convince the other. This debate is pointless. I am liberal, you are seemingly conservative. bye
@Braveanglo yep,pointless because of the truth you never hoped.korean american,arent you?
korea has concealed the history from the people until now thats why they really believe they invented all japanese culture lol
you really think it is possible to root out all culture,its sign and even heirs of that for only 35 years?in the first place,the people of the generation and chinese culture sill exist.use your brain.
rape,liberal,conservative...i knew a degree is worthless lol
@heishomon Hey, assfuck, I don't have a drop of Korean blood in me. The Japanese government has been proven to have lied to it's people and to the world. So don't go blaming the Koreans for what your country does. And any history student knows History is written by the victorious. Why do you think Japan has rewritten history so much? If Japan hadn't lost WWII Korea may not even exist today. Blahblahblah, right? The Koreans deserved all they had coming to them, huh?
>>japanese people are descendents from koreans also They adopted the koreans martial arts. When they took over korea they erased almost all the korean history trying to hide the fact their japanese martial arts is actualy koreans. >>
You are funny.
Though there is not the evidence, why can you assert?
Other than a person deceived by a Korean and a Korean, there is not a person believing it.
In China, a document taught how to use Japanese sword by China has Korea.
OMG I must go and train in Korea i am currently training in Hapkido when i get to Black Belt im going to Korea!! The sparring was insane so much better then Kendo...
:) To be honest the sparring shown in the clip was a prepared choreographed demonstration. Very impressive but not entirely realistic. Real sparring, like baseball , is more fun to do than to watch ;)
So many katana videos I see on youtube are all about spinning the sword. Glad to see a video that at least resembles kenjutsu form. I would love to learn something like this.
Why quarrel? We're all humans after all, and no one can say the other is better or worst unless he/she has attained the highest level in KENDO/GUMDO Both are martial arts using sword and if we wanna see which is the best i'm sure there is competition between this 2 art anytime in the year.
By the way, we are all descendant of Homosapiens thats the truth
japanese people are descendents from koreans also They adopted the koreans martial arts. When they took over korea they erased almost all the korean history trying to hide the fact their japanese martial arts is actualy koreans.
what he is saying is that most oriental martial arts come from or are influenced by china so all quarreling about where the art comes from is pointless
Just to comment on what Ive read: Yes this style name comes from Korea. Kendo is Japanese. But they are very close in style. Training and philosophy are the biggest differences. And please dont argue with me. Im all things martial arts and history. :P
well its simply tameshigiri, would you cut a tatami mat ONCE and throw it away? anyways, its for practicing anyways. just like sharpshooters would shoot a target a billion times to perfect their skills.
Korean musas(warriors)learned a way of swordsmanship that is different from kumdo and kendo. Korea had their own way of swordsmanship. However, during the Japanese occupation, the japanese ordered for all martial arts equipment across Korea to be destroyed including the swordsmanship of Korea.
Korea's a sort of intermediary area between Japan and China, so there are a lot of influences from them in Korea, and vice-versa. The katana design was adapted from one type of Korean blade.
However, kumdo itself was adapted from Japanese gekkeiken (now called kendo) and kenjutsu after the Japanese occupation to boost morale and feel less powerless against invaders. Kumdo's influences from both Japan and China, with some of the stances and positions in the video.
Its a fact that japanese steal and copie ideas from other countries. 75% of japs think curries were originated from japan! they tried to steak kimchi and got ass smacked by the international court of justice. They think any sword that shaped similar to katana is a japanese sword while the fucking katana itself was copied from either china or korea. And thats a fact.
Fucking idiots. Those aren't japanese sword. Koreans have many types of swords. Back in the days, all korean musa's(warriors) had their swords custom made by the weapon smith, each unique in their own design to suit the warrior, not the other way around like he stupid japanese. You can find chinese swords in different regions that have similar design.
well... Koreans are told to claim themselves Japanese whenever they are caught stealing something. So they stole japanese swords (along with gumdo, judo, Dok-do, etc.) and are pretending like they are Japanese in this clip ;-) My honorable $0.02!
I however must admit that these guys/gals are quite impressive. Kudos.
o_0 nani? u obviously dont know much u baka! those Koreans in the video arent pretending, it's a Korean sword art just designed with the use of a Japanese sword u fool!
Nice pantomime.
toastedhdd 1 week ago
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Although HDGD is Korean martial art, Why doesn't they use the Korean sword? KURIGATA and SAGEO are the features of Japanese sword. It is the similar Japanese sword. I never find such the Korean old sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
enushisama 1 month ago in playlist toro1 さんのその他の動画
i don't want hear my favorite KODO's drum music on this fake video.
shrimpchocolate 1 month ago
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“There is no sword art which has continued without breaking off from ancient times in Korea.”
朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the Korean Dynasty
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備
The people are not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”
The king said “There is no swordman in our country at all...”
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
The king said “Any sword art has not been succeeded from ancient time in our country...”
enushisama 2 months ago
Can you make a Katana?
Do you know the origin of all parts of the Katana?
about the hakama? ha?F**kin korean?
Will not Korea have those history?
Is it all your hateful Japanese fellow? why copy？
garuruori 2 months ago 2
For 李氏朝鮮 Korea 500 years of the Confucian country, I idealized the political idea of Confucius. Therefore it deviated from the mainstream, and the military officer who I regarded a civil officer as important, and diminished the position of the military officer low went out of fashion.
The martial arts do not develop in such an environment, too.
(as for what there was only as for police function)
wolfpack13000 2 months ago
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본국검 本国劒 (KoreanSword) From 무예도보통지(武藝圖譜通志): It appears Wubei Zhi ( 武備志) written by Mao Yuanyi (茅元儀) acquired the book of sword combat from Chosun considering he compared Chosun sword methods with Dang Un's. It is obvious Chosun Had already developed the manual of Bon Guk Gum ( 본국검 本国劒) as they were compared to Japanese Ssangsu.
HDGDisnotfromkendo 3 months ago
GUMDO IS FAKE OF KENDO
Koreans always steal japanese and chinese cultures
hosozoku 4 months ago
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Please watch
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
enushisama 5 months ago
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enushisama 5 months ago
@japantruthify01 You admitted that haidong gumdo is just the imitation of Japan. Thank you. Never forget.
expedition60 5 months ago
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武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .
[It is an official document at a Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century]
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting (in the 17th century ! ).
購得戚繼光紀效新書遣訓局郎韓嶠遍質東來將士
Therefore, Koreans began learning sword skills and others from Chinese .
enushisama 6 months ago
CAUTION!!
Gumdo is a Korean of KENDO reading.
And the KENDO historically has the origin in Japan.
When the KENDO is a Korea origin, they are fabricating it !!
They also are fabricating a story to them own advantage that all Japanese culture
are Korean origins !!
Everybody of intelligent foreigner !
PLEASE DO NOT CHEAT !!
TheMatrix1221 6 months ago
Why does the Japanese accuse the forged Korea samurai and Korea martial arts?
As for the reason, Korea samurai and the Korea martial arts of the imitation insist on a genuine Japanese samurai and the origin of the martial arts, and this is because it pollutes a Japanese samurai and the honor of the martial arts, and an usurption does Japan samurai culture.
wolfpack13000 6 months ago
There is not the Korean fact that the samurai existed in history.
There is neither the society scenery created historically nor the inevitability.
Though there is not the base which existed, the person forging Korea samurai spreads a lie.
I imitate a Japanese samurai and divert castles of Japan to their HP and develop the false martial arts that I forged for an image of Japan.
wolfpack13000 6 months ago
so fake
10250627 6 months ago
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Melchiorbv 6 months ago
ha ha ha....
Liar's Korean people
mimic military arts
This is imitation of Japan
Melchiorbv 6 months ago
I think you can watch ↓
watch?v=hG6tqGGZW8Y
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
Sakra137 6 months ago
Secondly, "do" of "Gum-do" means 'route' or 'path' in Chinese and 'principle' or 'way' in Japanese. But Korea never had conception of "do" in its history. It's the proof that gumdo is just copy of Kendo. I'm not accusing them for copying, but I just want them to stop lying and fabricating history.
Daviysoh 7 months ago
First off,there is no principle in Haidon Gumdo. It doesn't have Iai or Kata because its style was not created for fighting but just dancing performance. 2:48 How can swordsman show his back to the enemy? Not practical at all.
Daviysoh 7 months ago
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Foolish South Korean. Thief South Korean. Deceitful Korea.
arata9 7 months ago
watch?v=hG6tqGGZW8Y
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
enushisama 7 months ago
what just a few people know is that haidong gumdo is the extraction of the ninja sword style and kendo is of the samurais you can just see it, look the diferences of this both beautiful ways of the sword. This info cant be founded on internet, event if you ask to a master he would lie you, I get the info travelilng the world and i decide to give it to the people ho is saying bad stuff about this art both art good arts they are just diferent THE TRUTH IS CLEARLY FOR THE ONE HO WANTS TO SEE IT XD
rene3x 8 months ago
1.
Kumdo/Gumdo is the Korean pronunciation of Kendo and it was introduced into the Korean Peninsula from Japan during the period of the Japanese protectorate and annexation (1895-1945). Before that martial arts didn't exist in Korea. So it's never a traditional Korean martial art from ancient times.
It's true that Koreans began learning sword skills from Chinese and they called it 本國劍 / 本国剣 in the 18th century, but it didn't catch on.
/watch?v=xcc3_iBmMyM
HaedongKumdoIsaLie 8 months ago
2.
The first time Koreans used the word "HaedongKumdo / 海東剣道" was in about 1982. It's not so long ago. In short, it's a fraud that they claim HaedongKumdo is a Korean traditional martial art.
Incidentally, the parties have already pleaded guilty to the HaedongKumdo fraud in a Korean court.
해동검도재판기록 (HaedongKumdo trial record)
blog(.)daum(.)net/_blog/BlogTypeView(.)do?blogid=06zf6&articleno=9050199&admin=#ajax_history_home
HaedongKumdoIsaLie 8 months ago
3.
What Koreans are doing now is a creation based on Japanese Kendo. But because the new martial art required Koreans to make a difference from Kendo, they adopted flashy action stunts like jumping or spinning.
First, you Koreans must set out the records of HaedongKumdo before 1970s if you can.
HaedongKumdoIsaLie 8 months ago
4.
How about videos? Is there a film until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?
How about pictures? Is there a picture until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?
How about historical records? Since the 17th century many Westerners stayed in the Korean Peninsula. They wrote about Korean archery but any swordplay or unarmed martial art doesn't appear in those records. Don't you find this strange?
You Koreans had better admit HaedongKumdo is a fraud and stop spreading lies immediately.
HaedongKumdoIsaLie 8 months ago
If "Fake Samurai & Kendo" is retrieved, you understand the truth.
jyogkuro 8 months ago
Please watch this video!
Fake Samurai & Kendo in Japan Expo 2011: On Korea's Plunder of Japanese Cultures
watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8
bergamot5599 8 months ago
South Korea begins to copy the Japanese martial arts from the late 20th century. Individual martial arts was not developed in the Joseon Dynasty(Korea). Taekwondo, Haidong Gumdo, Kumdo, Hapkido, Yudo is nothing to the history of Korea.
Taekwondo copied the Shotokan Karate. Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kendo. Hapkido copied the Daitoryu Jujutsu and Aikido. Yudo copied Judo. Hwa Rang Do is not historical martial arts. Hwa Rang is dancer in the Silla and Kogryo Dynasty.
unkeihokusai 8 months ago 15
@unkeihokusai Haidong Gumdo and Kumdo copied Kendo, a si? cuantas clases de Haidong has visto yo he visto muchas de kendo y te puedo decir que no tienen nada que ver una con la otra para criticar hay que saber lo que se critica to you? Haidong few classes I've seen seen a lot of kendo and I can tell you have nothing to do with each other to criticize is to know what is criticized
toro1 8 months ago
@unkeihokusai taekwondo copy karate?' jajaja you are mad bro
MrTrhasher666 7 months ago
@unkeihokusai Hapkido copied the aikido? jajajajajaja
OsCaROocK 2 months ago
i am leaning Aikido and Iaido a liitle of bit.
Japanese sword methods is separated about one hundred or more,Yagyu-shnganryu,Yagyu-shinkageryu,Muso-shindenryu,Jigo-tenshinryu etc...since the families or clans had developed respectively the sword method to fight against climate and climate in age of civil strife ;Sengoku era(戦国時代).
i know Gumdo or Kumudo are style of Korean sword method,but why they didn't have any load...then they become play twiddle diddle dancing with Katana now?...
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago
@sakura0jp0aikidodesu yo practico haidong gumdo desde hace 8 años y veo que algunos japoneses o practicantes de iaido o kendo critican nuestra tecnica, mi pregunta? como puedes criticar algo que no conoces Haidong Gumdo I practice for 8 years and I see some Japanese or iaido or kendo practitioners criticize our technique, my question? how can you criticize something you do not know
toro1 9 months ago
@toro1
hola! agradezca a Espana en el desastre de Fukushima.we like flamenco,many women learn the class in Japan.i have learned Aikido about 20 years and Iaido for a few years only.i am greenness it is shorter career then must study more.well,you mistook.people getting really angry are just regular people in Japan.since Bushido prohibit to pass judgment each other.then if my act come out to my teacher,i will be ban.
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago
the Clans have their own form,we can answer the famous Samurai's name when seeing the form.for example,setting up Katana on right head is Musashi's form and forming the end of Katana downward to left side shoestring catch like quarter moon is Jyubei Yagyu,but its are glitz and eccentrically for the view of technic basically.
Korean style is cool but its like TV show and the form is assembled discretely....
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago
why Japanese are confused to Korean Gumdo and Kumdo....pls image that if Japanese swing around rapier that French fencing sword like cheerleading with dressing English kelt,and then the playing would be popular and spread in many country....suddenly the Japanese make public like that "Japacing is Japanese traditional martial art,and Kelt is Japanese wear originally!!
it is different art originally since Japacing doesn't wear any armor."
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago
i must say Gumdo is just copied the surface of Japanese Kendo only without the reason(理)and Samurai spirits.this is not Budo(武道) anymore,Korean changed worst as Korean twiddle leaping dance.
stop to exhibit fake Korean Budo in the Japan Expo in Paris!!!!
watch?v=PVMwXztivL0
watch?v=7Hcq3kb792g (French)
watch?v=C7BoI4gWXN4
watch?v=ImWL-N582ZU
pls think and understand deeply the reason (理) and natural rule(自然法則).
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago 2
@toro1 Estoy de acuerdo contigo; uno no puede criticar lo que no conoce, pero hasta cierto punto un kendoka se puede dar idea sobre el haidong gumdo. Por ejemplo, lo movimientos son demasiado estilizados y gastan energía de manera poco útil, lo cual lo hace poco práctico como arte marcial. De lo demás no comento porque no sé.
lrodrigomoreno 4 months ago
@lrodrigomoreno ok rodrigo respeto tu opinion aunque si se pued eme gustaria saber en detalle cuales consideras los mas estilizados a mi me gusta la critica constructiva GRACIAS
toro1 4 months ago
@toro1 Me agrada que no lo tomes a mal. No estoy muy seguro de a que te refieres con tu pregunta. Me lo podrías aclarar por favor? Para no contestar babosadas.
lrodrigomoreno 4 months ago
The fake
yamahanaya 9 months ago
Why do you wear a Japanese life jacket?
I introduce a Japanese tradition to wind in Korea, and does Korea appeal to me for a colony of Japan?
I delicately steal the Kung Fu.
koisan1000 9 months ago 2
Good
Philipp5743 9 months ago
marz12aug is probably one of those people that think all Asians look the same, the sword and pants look Korean to me.
tim354cheung 1 year ago
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William Elliot Griffis 『Korea the Hermit Nation』（1882）
Korea has no samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country.
jazztarou 1 year ago
Tnx fot this magnificent video and im sorry for the people that are ignorant and hasty to insult this art
sanriuk 1 year ago
fags, bamboo fags
SurvivalHorrorz 1 year ago
I don't know about some of you, but I judge swordsmanship by skill and skill alone. Who cares where it comes from, just as long as the swordsman/s show skill.
kfkonrad 3 years ago
right sword fighting is a art work not just swinging it around
topdog2007 3 years ago
This event is the fake which imitated a Japanese sword. A Japanese sword is a Japanese soul. >Dear Korean Please do not steal Japanese culture & soul. 日本の魂である日本刀をさも韓国文化のように振舞うのはやめていただきたい
noisyman56 3 years ago
there is never anything completely new in this world, everything finds it origins in something else. Shall i ask you to stop using kanji surely you are not a hipocrite are you? Or do you propose that kanji is of Japanese origin?
seungdeok 3 years ago
Koreans Are the Forraner of that sword dude.
SuburbanNinja8000 3 years ago
"Koreans do not still...what?" I was so shock by your words, please look outside of the frame, we actually taught you guys how to make swords in 5th~6th centuries. You are not saying that only japanese used sword in Asia, are you?
7Lecaf 3 years ago
The origins of the "Japanese sword" is Chinese. Have you stolen their culture?
Meshelsidek 2 years ago
What's the name of the song?
Jackoihm 4 years ago
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Maybe if Kendo decided to accept Gumdo and then make tournaments everyone would benefit and maybe this can lead to an Olympic event! But Japan will get the credit for it! If I was the government of Japn, I would suggest this and enter the event with fencing. Everyone would benefit right? Not arugue senselessly! Nothing will change and only feels will be hurt- maybe even build more hatred! Victums of ignorance and prejudice!
ChosonNinja 4 years ago
Respect is to call Kendo, not Gum-do. Only Korea said it Gum-do while all other countries call it Kendo. Sounds like it is originated in Korea. Like Taekwon-do which is copy of Karate. Let's start from there.
Gosling3 4 years ago 3
I agree with your opinion. When they speak in English or other, Korean should call it "Kendo".
2020fff 3 years ago 2
I agree with your opinion. When they speak in English or other, Korean should call it "Kendo".
2020fff 3 years ago
It's not respect its language. In Japanese sword is "ken" in Korean Sword is "Gum" They both mean "the way of the sword" This video is Haidog Gumdo, which isn't the same Gumdo as the other gumdo. I believe this one came from China.
5gyupsal 3 years ago
no mister Gosling if that was the then japanese should call kempo what?? kungfu? do us all a fovour and get yourself educated before you talk nonsense...
seungdeok 3 years ago
It does amuse me how people fall in love with one thing and that alot of "martial artists" value "tradition" more than development. Even traditions came from other traditions.... open your eyes, think big, diversity and change is a beautiful thing... you do enjoy using the internet dont you?
I hope you understand the relevance...
seungdeok 3 years ago
Dude, Kendo does accept Gumdo, there are many Korean Kendo champions, Ken means sword in Japanese, while Gum means sword in Korean. The type of Kendo practiced where competitors wear armor is from Japan, but it became popular in Korea during the occupation. Most Korean practitioners acknowlege this.
5gyupsal 3 years ago 4
coming back to the point, whey Korean do not call it Kendo if it is samething? Are there any ww2 (anti-japan)issue behind it?
Gosling3 3 years ago
There probably is a ww2 issue behind it, and Koreans would probably say something like "Gumdo goes back thousands of years in Korea to the three kingdoms, blah blah blah," but for the most part the chinese charecters for Korean and Japanese arts are the same. Karate becomes Goang soo do, both meaning the way of the empty hand. Judo becomes Yoodo, I'm not sure with this one but in Japanese you would have to check the "Kanji," in Korean you should check the "Hanja," (Chinese charecters)
5gyupsal 3 years ago
@5gyupsal and right, all comes from china
jishin99 1 year ago
Haedong gumdo has been traced back to the Kokyuro kingdom's Jang Baek sword fighting system that was established by general Yu Yu, and was modified later to use two handed swords.If you watch the video tape on Haedong gumdo you will notice that haedong gumdo is way different from Japanese sword fighting styles, and that it is not as flashy as the this video.
utuber2311 4 years ago
First of all most Korean people that study the gumdo that is similar to kendo all know it is a Japanese sport and never denied it so there is no deception involved. Most people think that all curved swords in Asia (not including scimitars) are Japanese or influenced by Japan, but that isn't true. Archaeologist found swords that resemble katanas dating back to kingdoms of Korea and China that were long gone before the Japanese katanas were made.
utuber2311 4 years ago 3
@_@00:50-00:55... Eso es el casi final de la forma Shimsang!!!! Qué chido se ve!!!! Why the hell does everybody disqualify haidong just because it's not "old enough"? It's not like japonese are all pioneers on martial arts, are they?
AUUUREA 4 years ago
it seems korea takes many martial arts and suits them to their needs- tae kwon do is just a mix of karate and kungfu..
kumdo looks like a mix of wudang jian style with kenjutsu
1x93cm 4 years ago
Clothes are Japanese imitation.
A sword is Japanese imitation, too.
And the movement is showy,unpolished
Music "the last samurai"
Laughing.
marz12aug 4 years ago 36
Interesting since Korean History dates back further than Japanese History does and Japanese people r desendents of Koreans
JNR007 4 years ago
What kind of Korean history is connected with kendo?
Does it prove that Japanese culture comes from Korea that the Korean history is old?
A ridiculous delusion.
marz12aug 4 years ago 4
Dude u have no idea what u r talking about
JNR007 4 years ago
The words are good for you.
Kendo develops from kenjutsu. kenjutsu is battle skill for Japanese battlefield and the Japanese equipment. thats not connected with Korea at all.
And, as for the Japanese sword and the Japanese equipment, the history of the development is supported by many inheritances.
marz12aug 4 years ago 4
You are poor person.
You are an Australian deceived by a Korean.
Search these words in wikipedia.
"Kumdo" "Kendo" "Kenjutsu" "Uriginal"
marz12aug 4 years ago 3
HAHA u must be a ignorant Japanese person with no idea about ur true heritage and I train in Kumdo and Hapkido
JNR007 4 years ago
Did you look at the website that I showed?
marz12aug 4 years ago 3
Im not going to waste my time
JNR007 4 years ago
kendo-Association argues against definitely Korean lie.
h tt p://w w w(dot)kendo-fik(dot)org/english-page/english-page2/AJKF-Perspective-of-Kendo.htm
marz12aug 4 years ago 3
after all.
You refuse informed of a fact after all.
The ignorance is you.
marz12aug 4 years ago 4
Your a misguided ignorant fool go do Kendo and u will suck
JNR007 4 years ago
You can argue against nothing about the document which I showed.
kumdo shows no historic document.
It is you that it is led by mistake. and u will suck.
My document is declaration of intention of kendo-Association.
marz12aug 4 years ago 3
@marz12aug why do you keep doing the same mistakes of judging befor thinking research about it and next speek
sanriuk 1 year ago
The first guy uses techniques that are copied from Katori Shinto Ryu, a Japanese school.
Iaifreak 4 years ago 2
how does the sparring in haedong kumdo work. Anybody who does haedong kumdo plz respond. Im going to switch from kumdo to haedong kumdo.
sonofabeeach 4 years ago
It varies by school. Some use point systems similar to Kendo with legal and illegal targets. Others use "first hit/ you're dead" where any hit is legal.
Some use soft padded armour and allow thrusts. Others don't use any armour and usually disallow thrusts.
Best to check with the school.
bonnymab 4 years ago
To the 'mcdojo' commenter: I really doubt these guys do this for self defense, but for the coolness/traditional factor. My BJJ instructor teaches this also and he makes no claims to its validity in a street fight. Only that it's a really REALLY fun traditional martial art to learn.
GishDeath 4 years ago
bit like kendo or enshin ryu really although kendo is more a traditional fencing as i assume you know.
warkiesaur 4 years ago
both types are just as "traditional" and gumdo IS heavily influenced by kendo, but there are differences in the fighting styles. Kendo focuses on looking for openings and getting the perfect "one strike." Gumdo, on the other hand, focuses on compact, rapid attacks in order to create an opening and then how to exploit that opening. Both styles are just as effective as the other, although i'll admit, gumdo DOES look cooler.
LifeDeathAnime 4 years ago
i never said kendo was more tratitional i just have a tendency to write comments badly lol i meant that while kendo is more like sport fencing and enshin ryu and haidong gumdo are actual sword methods used in real life fights way back in oldie times.
warkiesaur 4 years ago
Why does they use Japanese-type sword?
They should use Kimchi-type sword.
I know Kimchi-type sword is gerenally double-edged.
Hstk78 4 years ago
Why does they use Japanese-type sword?
They should use Kimchi-type sword.
I know Kimchi-type sword is gerenally double-edged.
Hstk78 4 years ago
Why does they use Japanese-type sword?
They should use Kimchi-type sword.
I know Kimchi-type sword is gerenally double-edged.
Hstk78 4 years ago
Why does they use Japanese-type sword?
They should use Kimchi-type sword.
I know Kimchi-type sword is gerenally double-edged.
Hstk78 4 years ago
An embarrassingly flashy demonstration like this is one of the features common to all fake-ass macdojo arts. Really sad.
saintjust 4 years ago
Someone needs to do their homework. Haedong gumdo has been around for decades and is huge, with federations in over 6 countries. "mcdojo" arts are usually isolated, with only a handful of dojos. Also, traditional gumdo goes back centuries, almost as far back as kendo.
and another thing, "embarassingly flashy"? go ahead and tell me what you consider a "real" martial art and i'll bet i can find a dozen "embarassingly flashy" videos about it.
LifeDeathAnime 4 years ago
don't mind marz12aug. I checked out some of his videos and he's a Wanna be Jap. He doesn't know that a lot of asian cultures come from china and Korea was the first country to adopt them before it was adopted by Japanese. He doesn't even know the geography
whsskdhkf 4 years ago
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Those arent hakamas they are silla kingdom traditional clothing
gochumanlol 5 years ago
Thus?
Why do they wear a hakama of a Japanese samurai?
Why do not they wear a Korean traditional dress?
Are they shameless people?
Give me your opinion.
marz12aug 5 years ago 3
i love this i am learning kumdo right now but i like haedong much more go KORea xD i only learning it cause nothing else i can learn from my current status
kazenokai515 5 years ago
>>Korea had their own way of swordsmanship. However, during the Japanese occupation, the japanese ordered for all martial arts equipment across Korea to be destroyed including the swordsmanship of Korea. >>
Ha-ha. A Korean is funny.
Has the Korean forgotten traditional culture in only 35 years?
It is written that Korea despised martial arts with a Chinese document in the times of Korea dynasty.
I do it before a long way off than Japan annexes Korea in the time.
marz12aug 5 years ago 7
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you are so stp. when you study korea and japan history, you soon know that jap fired korean historical books 350000, and they make people burnt
tanatia 5 years ago
Thus?
Why do they wear a hakama of a Japanese samurai?
Why do not they wear a Korean traditional dress?
Are they shameless people?
Give me your opinion.
marz12aug 5 years ago 27
@marz12aug its mostly becos that kind of wearings are from asia not only japan
and pleace pleace dont post "Are they shameless people" to hastly its not nice to people like me that practice this martial art and even more whit the korean people
anyways thnx for asking
sanriuk 1 year ago
@marz12aug The movement is showy and unpolished???? Have you EVER known anyone who has studied this??? The movements are exact and precise, each one having a target on the body of the enemy. Japan, Korea, and China all have different kinds of clothes for different kinds of activities. And I wouldn't say any of this is an imitation. If there is anything not Korean then it's a result of Japan's 40 year long attempt to kill the Korean culture at the end of a gun.
Braveanglo 1 year ago
@Braveanglo Tnx for iluminating this man he realy dont know what he is tlking about
PD im student of HDGD so tnx for have a good point of view
sanriuk 1 year ago
@sanriuk Thanks for backing me up. And it's great to meet a fellow student of HDGD. I think I have an advantage because I study here in Korea. Where do you study?
Braveanglo 1 year ago
@Braveanglo Mexico , wow did you went to the world championship this year?
sanriuk 1 year ago
@sanriuk No, I was unable to. I had only been learning for two months when the Championships rolled around. I see a lot of HDGD videos from Mexican martial artists. Is it really popular there??
Braveanglo 1 year ago
@Braveanglo mhhh its not as popular as Taekwondo but it have some succes and a lot of pasionate Samurangs whith only 10 years in mexico i could say it is becoming to a realy strong dicipline. good 2 months now i feel old in december i made my first Dan
sanriuk 1 year ago
@sanriuk Congratulations on your 1st Dan!!!!!!!!!! I should be able to test for mine later next year. I've been training for 8 months now and I'm really in love with it. My master is really incredible. She's a 2nd or 3rd Dan in Taekwando and Hapkido respectively, and she encourages me to learn one of them. Still debating. But HDGD is my 1st love. I never realized that martial arts were so popular in Mexico. I'm really happy about that though. Mexico is an intriguing country.
Braveanglo 1 year ago
@Braveanglo Mexico indeed ahve a lot of martial artist but we lack sponsors to develop more but even though we made it to develop a lot as far as we can. Yes Mexico is intriguing in some ways but the same as Korea and you are welcome to visit us any time contact us and we can give you a tour around the city.
sanriuk 1 year ago
@Braveanglo korea dont have original martial arts except for archery.however many times you koreans tell a lie,it never comes true. watch?v=Um0SWpssrMo watch?v=N0NObemdQDE
korean history is full of fabrication.i havent seen koreans show any evidence of their claim before.korea was one of the poorest countries in asia befor japans ruling.
heishomon 11 months ago
@heishomon Korea was a hermit kingdom before Japan invaded. And if there is any lack of evidence it's Japan's fault. The Japanese tried to destroy the Korean language, culture, and history. So don't you DARE even IMPLY that Japan did any service to Korea by it's tyrannical 40 year ILLEGAL reign. And it doesn't make any damn sense for a country that has such a history of war to only be good at archery.
Braveanglo 10 months ago
@Braveanglo at first, i want to say thank you korea for quake relief.
all grounds of koreans claim is based on fabricated history japan persecuted korea.watch?v=j5GegF6XcgE
how do you think even korean historical book says korea didnt have martial arts but archery?there are many evidences supporting me and no evidence supporting korea.it is perfectly ovbious which is fabricating history, japan or korea.
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon thanks to japan, korea got many profits such as independence from china, education, train, medical treatment and so many modern conveniences.their lives were extended and the population doubled.i know korean's thought what bad is because of japan, what good is because of korea without any grounds.even korean scholars believe every japanese famous culture came from korea.but the fact is korea and its culture were mere a part of chinese dynasties and undeveloped.
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon because of long history of colony and selfish nobles.
korea should not either conceal true history or imitate our culture but create original one from now on for yourselves.by the way, an annexation of korea by japan was legal.
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon How in the FUCK can you say that the annexation of an INDEPENDENT country like Korea by Japan was LEGAL?? Korea was NOT part of China (no matter what China might have thought in their pursuit of "One China"). Korea may have given tribute to China but it was never a COLONY! Korea was ALWAYS independent from China. Japan tried for centuries to conquer Korea in order to get to China. Come over here and see the torture camps of the Japanese and THEN say it was legal!!!
Braveanglo 10 months ago
@Braveanglo no objection meant consent.
watch?v=6pofK18-1ug and google "the treaty of shimonoseki"
属国清大 旗国麗高written on the first korean national flag means a national flag of korea,a colony of Great Qin.
the old books show each chinese dynasty ruled and treated korea as lower position.but your anscestors worshiped and tried to assimilate the han people,while despised other races and cultures by looking korea as mini-china.
google sinocentlism and 소중화사상.
thats why the koreans've envied and
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon despised us and still had a deep-rooted prejudice against races.the koreans think brilliant korea has been always superior to and given wonderful culture barbarous japan,right?the annexation is just an excuse.history is interesting,isnt it?
according to japanese,chinese and even korean records,both Baekje and Silla were colonies of japan.who on earth can think a smaller and weaker nation surrounded by powers can keep independent?japan annexed korea in accordance with the international
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon law.the great powers approved it too.
i showed the proof enough for you to realize japan didnt destroy korea.its your turn to.who,when,where,why,whom,how tortured?teachers told you?as you know,continental culture unlike ours has allowed the peoples to tell a lie.as for korea,miserable history and vanity have highly promoted it.of course,your government know the true history.
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon 1st: I AM NOT A KOREAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am an American with a history degree. 2nd: "no objection means consent"? That is the most backward, selfish, unenlightened argument I have ever heard. That's like saying the rape of a young girl by an older man is not rape because she didn't say the word "no" even though she was crying and obviously didn't want to have sex. 3rd: Neither one of us will convince the other. This debate is pointless. I am liberal, you are seemingly conservative. bye
Braveanglo 10 months ago
@Braveanglo yep,pointless because of the truth you never hoped.korean american,arent you?
korea has concealed the history from the people until now thats why they really believe they invented all japanese culture lol
you really think it is possible to root out all culture,its sign and even heirs of that for only 35 years?in the first place,the people of the generation and chinese culture sill exist.use your brain.
rape,liberal,conservative...i knew a degree is worthless lol
heishomon 10 months ago
@heishomon Hey, assfuck, I don't have a drop of Korean blood in me. The Japanese government has been proven to have lied to it's people and to the world. So don't go blaming the Koreans for what your country does. And any history student knows History is written by the victorious. Why do you think Japan has rewritten history so much? If Japan hadn't lost WWII Korea may not even exist today. Blahblahblah, right? The Koreans deserved all they had coming to them, huh?
Braveanglo 10 months ago
@Braveanglo ah..sorry,i cant understand you at all...
why are many koreans so crazy and no logical like you,Kim?lunacy or anything?eat kimchi and breathe deeply.
heishomon 10 months ago
>>japanese people are descendents from koreans also They adopted the koreans martial arts. When they took over korea they erased almost all the korean history trying to hide the fact their japanese martial arts is actualy koreans. >>
You are funny.
Though there is not the evidence, why can you assert?
Other than a person deceived by a Korean and a Korean, there is not a person believing it.
In China, a document taught how to use Japanese sword by China has Korea.
Do you go mad?
marz12aug 5 years ago 5
That was kool. The first song that was played was from the last samuri
Caw14 5 years ago
gumdo is gay
sstotenkopfverbande 5 years ago
ur gay
JNR007 5 years ago
The style is very unique. However, the tameshigiri is amazing!
MuMuLi 5 years ago
And blade angle.
bonnymab 5 years ago
cutting the paper si so hard. because of the wind factor
cotonmix1 5 years ago
That IS awesome! Those guys are hardcore! I wonder if their actual swords (historically) were comparable to those of the Samurai.
mothmonsterman18 5 years ago
zomg!! kumdo ftw!11 that was awesome . .
shinraco 5 years ago
this is the diet coke of swordsmanship
kungfufreddy 5 years ago
More like a V8. Coke, Pepsi, diet or otherwise will all rot your teeth :)
bonnymab 5 years ago
AHHH How about a double coke mixed with Red Bull, dash of V laced with speed :)LOL
JNR007 5 years ago
what do you mean?
MuMuLi 5 years ago
Excelente, tomare algunas ideas para demostraciones, gracias por compartir este video con todos.
leogan 5 years ago
OMG I must go and train in Korea i am currently training in Hapkido when i get to Black Belt im going to Korea!! The sparring was insane so much better then Kendo...
JNR007 5 years ago
:) To be honest the sparring shown in the clip was a prepared choreographed demonstration. Very impressive but not entirely realistic. Real sparring, like baseball , is more fun to do than to watch ;)
bonnymab 5 years ago
wow Oo
XellDincht 5 years ago
you know what? korea all the way.
crazytappinguy 5 years ago
Whats the name of the song in the part where they start cutting bamboos?
PawVamp 5 years ago
So many katana videos I see on youtube are all about spinning the sword. Glad to see a video that at least resembles kenjutsu form. I would love to learn something like this.
Kensuke 5 years ago
Why quarrel? We're all humans after all, and no one can say the other is better or worst unless he/she has attained the highest level in KENDO/GUMDO Both are martial arts using sword and if we wanna see which is the best i'm sure there is competition between this 2 art anytime in the year.
By the way, we are all descendant of Homosapiens thats the truth
JiSheng 5 years ago
it isnt what is better it is WHO is better
the man maketh the fight
kungfufreddy 4 years ago
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japanese people are descendents from koreans also They adopted the koreans martial arts. When they took over korea they erased almost all the korean history trying to hide the fact their japanese martial arts is actualy koreans.
jhko12 5 years ago
by that logic all korean martial arts are chinese then
kungfufreddy 5 years ago 4
we all must pay homage to china.
hayashimsan 5 years ago 2
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Actually it's korea not china ^.^ sorry had to point out!
kudigudi 5 years ago
he knows that
what he is saying is that most oriental martial arts come from or are influenced by china so all quarreling about where the art comes from is pointless
read what i said
kungfufreddy 4 years ago
question, why is hte music from Prey in this video?
Vanguard66 5 years ago
Just to comment on what Ive read: Yes this style name comes from Korea. Kendo is Japanese. But they are very close in style. Training and philosophy are the biggest differences. And please dont argue with me. Im all things martial arts and history. :P
newjokeaccount 5 years ago
kendo and gumdo both originate in chinise miao dao techniques
kendo seems more direct real and to the point than this
whats with cutting the pole a million times one time will kill the guy ?
kungfufreddy 5 years ago
well its simply tameshigiri, would you cut a tatami mat ONCE and throw it away? anyways, its for practicing anyways. just like sharpshooters would shoot a target a billion times to perfect their skills.
hayashimsan 5 years ago
yes but if u were practising a million times then they should practise each technique individually not one straight after the other
kungfufreddy 4 years ago
damn thts awesome! i wana learn this stuff
unknowngiver 5 years ago
Wow, ANOTHER Korea vs Japan discussion. This never gets old (yes it does, and very quickly).
Ignore your cultural bias and watch the video for what it is, a truely amazing display of cutting techniques and choreographed sparring.
bonnymab 5 years ago
ALL OF YOU DO KNOW THAT JAPAN WAS A COUNTRY THAT WAS FOUNDED WAY AFTER KOREA WAS FOUNDED.
768111 5 years ago
Korean musas(warriors)learned a way of swordsmanship that is different from kumdo and kendo. Korea had their own way of swordsmanship. However, during the Japanese occupation, the japanese ordered for all martial arts equipment across Korea to be destroyed including the swordsmanship of Korea.
KUMDO IS DERIVED FROM KENDO.
768111 5 years ago
Korea's a sort of intermediary area between Japan and China, so there are a lot of influences from them in Korea, and vice-versa. The katana design was adapted from one type of Korean blade.
However, kumdo itself was adapted from Japanese gekkeiken (now called kendo) and kenjutsu after the Japanese occupation to boost morale and feel less powerless against invaders. Kumdo's influences from both Japan and China, with some of the stances and positions in the video.
kikaku2501 5 years ago
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Its a fact that japanese steal and copie ideas from other countries. 75% of japs think curries were originated from japan! they tried to steak kimchi and got ass smacked by the international court of justice. They think any sword that shaped similar to katana is a japanese sword while the fucking katana itself was copied from either china or korea. And thats a fact.
poofly02 5 years ago
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Fucking idiots. Those aren't japanese sword. Koreans have many types of swords. Back in the days, all korean musa's(warriors) had their swords custom made by the weapon smith, each unique in their own design to suit the warrior, not the other way around like he stupid japanese. You can find chinese swords in different regions that have similar design.
poofly02 5 years ago
well... Koreans are told to claim themselves Japanese whenever they are caught stealing something. So they stole japanese swords (along with gumdo, judo, Dok-do, etc.) and are pretending like they are Japanese in this clip ;-) My honorable $0.02!
I however must admit that these guys/gals are quite impressive. Kudos.
m2pi 5 years ago
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o_0 nani? u obviously dont know much u baka! those Koreans in the video arent pretending, it's a Korean sword art just designed with the use of a Japanese sword u fool!
someanonymousperson 5 years ago
ummmm... the koreans made had that sword first... the japanese just mastered the making of it and the japanese katana is longer
meximerol 5 years ago
the Koreans were inspired by Japanese swordsmanship...thats all i can think of
someanonymousperson 5 years ago
whats so great about this sheet i could do this if i had a sword!XD
rampant11 5 years ago