saw all different lineups of this great band in London in the late eighties, they were totally brilliant. Also worked with Becky the original drummer for a while as well. My head is Spinning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loop were clearly influenced by Spacemen 3. Surpassed them? I think they were able to create an individual, distinguished sound of their own, surely that's enough? Do I love Loop? Yeah. Do I love Spaceman 3. Yeah. Which do I prefer? Spacemen 3.
Hmm Interesting. I have a different version of the video, all psychedelic orange and yellow colours blooming, and the band brooding. This video shows off their good looks, which I was unaware of at the time. I would have been very drawn in by this. As it was I was drawn in anyway by the hypnotic danger of the music. I also didn't hear the cymbals much that come in intermittently toward the end of the song. Different version? Neet to see, thanks.
Yeah, they're good! Maybe a little too ironic at times, but good - like early Loop with zero restraint and a really weird glam look goin' on! I'm expecting great things in their future!
For me,Loop had it all...They were just a perfect distillation of the kind of Space- rock
that Calvert-era Hawkwind excelled at crossed with that motorik-Krautrock style and a heavy dose of Psyche that had journalists comparing them to Spacemen 3...and then they had something more besides- a panther- like grace and mastery of their craft that left just about everyone else trailing in their wake, at least for a few great years anyway. Seeing them live was absolutely mesmerising for me..loved 'em
Good stuff. I think they have a lot more harder songs than Spacemen 3, but in general Spacemen 3 where superior because of a few truly standout songs (LTWMM, Hey Man, Hypnotized)
Listened to Heaven's End religiously for years.........could never understand the lack of notice. And the lack of being able to find their stuff. Fucking conspiracies.....I was heavily influenced by the guitar work.
Great to see these videos, I can't believe it's actually on the tube. I saw then in Magonigles in Dublin and the Garden. They were increadable. The surround sound they used was ground breaking, never hear anything like since.
Hi i seen them in Magonigles what a gig my ears were ringing for days but well worth it. I think though in the rock garden it was the hair and skin trading compaany you seen i could be wrong if i am i missed then dam!
@888rats Not sure about that. They both started out from a similar point & immediately sped off in different directions I reckon? "Arc Lite" is a great, & totally forgotten, track though...
Saw them 4 or 5 times back in the day... Their gigs at Newcastle Riverside in the late 80s early 90s were nothing short of awesome.
That Reading of 1989 was special... Loop, MBV and Spacemen 3 on the same bill... New Order too following the Sugarcubes. Wish I could relive that festival's lineup now again!
Saw them at Reading festival 89 they were fantastic, was supposed to see them at Liverpool Uni, but couldn't go as the trains weren't running due to the Towyn floods in N Wales, Totally gutted, Still have the unused ticket. They should reform and wake up the charts. We need bands like this instead of going to Ibiza and clogging up the charts with techno shite and RNB "I shagged my hoe 3 Times in my Porsche" MTV shite.
Loop are a cool band, but they were not and never will be in the same league as Jason and Sonic, and yeah they did nick The Spacemen's idea's.. But they only really had one sound on all their albums. They could of never done the Gospel thing on Playing With Fire. It's the same as saying The Dandy Warhol's are as good as The BJM when they arn't even close, and never will be. The Dandy's wish they could do The BJM thing, the same as Loop wished they could be The Spacemen but only in their dreams!
Ah, I was only trying to say that LOOP wanted to be Spacemen 3 and The Dandy Warhol's wanted to be The BJM is as much as style, people and sound and everything, I wasn't trying to comparable them as such. but yeah I understand your point! Cheers!
my god i climb out onto this limb and commend you for your bravery and willingness to tell the bold faced truth!!!!!!!!!! not to say that dandys and loop arent "good" in comparison to their respective counterparts, but yeah.. maybe it's the music snob in me, but i smugly and arrogantly agree..
Now I know why I kept my Spacemen 3 records and burnt my Loop EP's. This is utter, self-indulgent crap. I saw thwm bomb at Reading in 1990, and they blamed it on their instruments etc. You need some decent tunes to win a crowd, something these losers were never capable of.
burning loop ep's... that is pretty unforgivable! I love spacemen 3 and loop mdid rip there sound, but they were all pulling in the same direction, away from mainstream shite pop and hair metal! If it was not for bands like loop then my love of music would not exist.
dudes - i don't really get the comparison. i mean, yeah, maybe if you're listening to 'suicide' by the spacemen i could see it, but who gives a fuck? i mean, they both sound so good isn't this an embarrassment of riches anyway?!!?
Robert Hampson was apparently a big Spacemen 3 fan. When he started the band he was working for Fire records, the label that published the early Spacemen 3 stuff. There is indeed a big similarity in sound and attitude, especially with the more 'Stoogey' Spacemen3 of Sound of Confusion.
I had a video supporting the charity Shelter that had a Loop track over the titles... Anyone remember it? It had the Pastles and the Vaselines plus many others on it... From about 1986
Aye , agreed. I remember getting stoned and listening to em while drinking Fosters and Scrumpy Jack, with friends from Bolton street college, and going to see Ride , Whipping Boy, Mudhoney , Fugazi etc all around that time. Great memories :-)
to find arclite 12" and A gilded eternity and a few other rarities, have a look through my record collection whcih has been handed into one of the charity shps in Halifax. Seriously, there is an entire record collection from late 80s early 90s giong begging in Halifax, I'd rather it went to fans...
i was into loop and spacemen 3 back in the late 80's, i thought they were both great, loop reminded me of the pop group at times. the main records are quite good but much more experimental. this 12" single with arc lite & sunburst was my favorite. look on gemm or musicstack, the stuff isn't that hard to find.
I can't believe there's a bloke on this thread who thinks Spacemen 3 were more innovative than Loop. Loop were the most intense live band at the time, more than any thrash metal or industrial music, more than Einsturzende Neubauten or the Butthole Surfers. I used to wish the Spacemen 3 fops would p*** off and have their self-indulgent 'OD catastrophe'. Them and the J&MC
You are Dead on. I seen them several times & the Live set was nothing short of Amazing... My mates came along with me to Glasgow Uni for the crack & they thought they were the best ever & had never heard of them before. Everybody was in on it. CLASS
Also, Robert Hampson followed Loop with a project called Main that has released many albums since then. Not many of them sound like Loop, but the early stuff might appeal to Loop fans, esp. the Hydra Calm CD. Unfortunately, that stuff is also a bitch to find!
after much persistence and countless trips to the record store, i found all 6 hz eps, motion pool, and firmaments 2-4. god help me on finding the 1st.
Seen these live a few times...got this on orange label jukebox single....what a fookin' tune !!!!!!!!
GTPerformer84 3 months ago
saw all different lineups of this great band in London in the late eighties, they were totally brilliant. Also worked with Becky the original drummer for a while as well. My head is Spinning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
milbury55 3 months ago
Loop were clearly influenced by Spacemen 3. Surpassed them? I think they were able to create an individual, distinguished sound of their own, surely that's enough? Do I love Loop? Yeah. Do I love Spaceman 3. Yeah. Which do I prefer? Spacemen 3.
RutaDB 10 months ago 6
@RutaDB
I prefer Loop, but the whole argument is pretty silly nearly a quarter century after both bands hit their final third chord, surely.
MarsHottentot 9 months ago 2
Hmm Interesting. I have a different version of the video, all psychedelic orange and yellow colours blooming, and the band brooding. This video shows off their good looks, which I was unaware of at the time. I would have been very drawn in by this. As it was I was drawn in anyway by the hypnotic danger of the music. I also didn't hear the cymbals much that come in intermittently toward the end of the song. Different version? Neet to see, thanks.
brightphoebus 11 months ago
If you miss Loop..check out White Hills..
dahleric74 1 year ago
@dahleric74
Yeah, they're good! Maybe a little too ironic at times, but good - like early Loop with zero restraint and a really weird glam look goin' on! I'm expecting great things in their future!
MarsHottentot 9 months ago
For me,Loop had it all...They were just a perfect distillation of the kind of Space- rock
that Calvert-era Hawkwind excelled at crossed with that motorik-Krautrock style and a heavy dose of Psyche that had journalists comparing them to Spacemen 3...and then they had something more besides- a panther- like grace and mastery of their craft that left just about everyone else trailing in their wake, at least for a few great years anyway. Seeing them live was absolutely mesmerising for me..loved 'em
MrTulip65 1 year ago
Hands down, one of my favourite Loop tracks ever.
Just a great rhythm ...
Nice to see some videos here on YouTube of Loop.
A very underrated band that should have had more credit afforded to them.
trollcrusher242 1 year ago
Yeah! Im a year late with my arguement....that h0w i r0ll, man!! :D
DrPhibes333 1 year ago
Good stuff. I think they have a lot more harder songs than Spacemen 3, but in general Spacemen 3 where superior because of a few truly standout songs (LTWMM, Hey Man, Hypnotized)
SeedsofJoy 1 year ago
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Saw them in London ULU, early 1989 I think. In my 60s leather box jacket, winklepickers, paisley shirt and long hair. Fast forward 20+ years......
4 stone heavier, baldy bastard in a fleece! Life 'eh?!
Westernprovince 2 years ago
Listened to Heaven's End religiously for years.........could never understand the lack of notice. And the lack of being able to find their stuff. Fucking conspiracies.....I was heavily influenced by the guitar work.
firsttimein 2 years ago
Great to see these videos, I can't believe it's actually on the tube. I saw then in Magonigles in Dublin and the Garden. They were increadable. The surround sound they used was ground breaking, never hear anything like since.
Doonshtig 2 years ago
Hi i seen them in Magonigles what a gig my ears were ringing for days but well worth it. I think though in the rock garden it was the hair and skin trading compaany you seen i could be wrong if i am i missed then dam!
insectstorm0 2 years ago
i remember 120 minutes and paul king
kobarte 2 years ago
best british band of the last 25 years
magocacana 2 years ago 11
@magocacana - wonder if the spacemen thought that was true too?
bozwan 2 years ago
@magocacana Easily.
TheKersey1 1 year ago
This video features footage from Beckton Gas Works, where 'Full Metal Jacket' was filmed.
sondinium 2 years ago
I don't about everyone saying Loop 'wanted to be Spacemen 3', but I do know Loop far surpassed them.
888rats 2 years ago 9
@888rats Not sure about that. They both started out from a similar point & immediately sped off in different directions I reckon? "Arc Lite" is a great, & totally forgotten, track though...
diskochimp 1 year ago
@888rats No, that is simply not true.
fireIIC 1 year ago
No, they didn't surpass them, sorry :/
Dereck89 9 months ago
@888rats Amen. Loop is a thousand times better than Spacemen 3.
Polyfusia 7 months ago
verve (early stuff) reminds me of LOOP to be honest
mcatling 2 years ago
Saw them 4 or 5 times back in the day... Their gigs at Newcastle Riverside in the late 80s early 90s were nothing short of awesome.
That Reading of 1989 was special... Loop, MBV and Spacemen 3 on the same bill... New Order too following the Sugarcubes. Wish I could relive that festival's lineup now again!
newtgingrich 2 years ago 3
Saw them at Reading festival 89 they were fantastic, was supposed to see them at Liverpool Uni, but couldn't go as the trains weren't running due to the Towyn floods in N Wales, Totally gutted, Still have the unused ticket. They should reform and wake up the charts. We need bands like this instead of going to Ibiza and clogging up the charts with techno shite and RNB "I shagged my hoe 3 Times in my Porsche" MTV shite.
Come On !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reform
impowaster 2 years ago
lol i was ther 2 dood i thought the buttholes stole the show..or maybe it wiz the shrooms...reading89 lol fkn ages ago
badmev 2 years ago
techno and soul go perfectly well with loop i find...
leolodreamland 2 years ago
Loop are a cool band, but they were not and never will be in the same league as Jason and Sonic, and yeah they did nick The Spacemen's idea's.. But they only really had one sound on all their albums. They could of never done the Gospel thing on Playing With Fire. It's the same as saying The Dandy Warhol's are as good as The BJM when they arn't even close, and never will be. The Dandy's wish they could do The BJM thing, the same as Loop wished they could be The Spacemen but only in their dreams!
Copshootcop74 2 years ago
Uncomparable... Loop are closer to BJM than to Dandy Warhol's.... I wouldn't say:
Spacemen : Loop = BJM : Dandy Warhols
but
Loop : Spacemen = BJM : Dandy Warhols
I anlo agree, Dandy are the worst of the four ;-)
Theofish 2 years ago
Ah, I was only trying to say that LOOP wanted to be Spacemen 3 and The Dandy Warhol's wanted to be The BJM is as much as style, people and sound and everything, I wasn't trying to comparable them as such. but yeah I understand your point! Cheers!
Copshootcop74 2 years ago
don't talk shite.
leolodreamland 2 years ago
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Copshootcop74 2 years ago
my god i climb out onto this limb and commend you for your bravery and willingness to tell the bold faced truth!!!!!!!!!! not to say that dandys and loop arent "good" in comparison to their respective counterparts, but yeah.. maybe it's the music snob in me, but i smugly and arrogantly agree..
PHAEDRIDER 2 years ago
Ahh the days when music was good not like the crap today!
insectstorm0 3 years ago
unfortunately we've all grown up since then - not that i don't totally agree with the sentiment
woodie106 2 years ago
Yea!!
Duluth1993 3 years ago
the year somebody please!!! love this,how fucking ahead of their time yet retro was this!?
kevsickboy 3 years ago 2
This single is from 1989
fery2 3 years ago
ta....fuck,im old. :/
kevsickboy 3 years ago
Hi they came to dublin once after about an hour and a half they dropped they guitars on the ground and the feedback was amazing!
insectstorm0 3 years ago
Now I know why I kept my Spacemen 3 records and burnt my Loop EP's. This is utter, self-indulgent crap. I saw thwm bomb at Reading in 1990, and they blamed it on their instruments etc. You need some decent tunes to win a crowd, something these losers were never capable of.
bluemoon9uk 3 years ago
Loop is a Rave, Spacemen 3 is the After Party.... different attitude, different energy. Keep your records, once you may repent it ;-)
Theofish 3 years ago
burning loop ep's... that is pretty unforgivable! I love spacemen 3 and loop mdid rip there sound, but they were all pulling in the same direction, away from mainstream shite pop and hair metal! If it was not for bands like loop then my love of music would not exist.
sitonka 3 years ago
dudes - i don't really get the comparison. i mean, yeah, maybe if you're listening to 'suicide' by the spacemen i could see it, but who gives a fuck? i mean, they both sound so good isn't this an embarrassment of riches anyway?!!?
mrfuku2 3 years ago
Robert Hampson was apparently a big Spacemen 3 fan. When he started the band he was working for Fire records, the label that published the early Spacemen 3 stuff. There is indeed a big similarity in sound and attitude, especially with the more 'Stoogey' Spacemen3 of Sound of Confusion.
myfalsenamedotcome 3 years ago
@myfalsenamedotcome true
DrPhibes333 1 year ago
I had a video supporting the charity Shelter that had a Loop track over the titles... Anyone remember it? It had the Pastles and the Vaselines plus many others on it... From about 1986
wibblechips 3 years ago
umm both have dished up quality tunes, spacemen had 2 song writers thus serving up different sorta sounds but umm heavens end is fkin minted
badmev 3 years ago
Loop were the biggest underground band in ireland pitty they only played once. They still sound great.
insectstorm0 4 years ago
Aye , agreed. I remember getting stoned and listening to em while drinking Fosters and Scrumpy Jack, with friends from Bolton street college, and going to see Ride , Whipping Boy, Mudhoney , Fugazi etc all around that time. Great memories :-)
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trinixia 4 years ago
to find arclite 12" and A gilded eternity and a few other rarities, have a look through my record collection whcih has been handed into one of the charity shps in Halifax. Seriously, there is an entire record collection from late 80s early 90s giong begging in Halifax, I'd rather it went to fans...
richievaughan2007 4 years ago
i was into loop and spacemen 3 back in the late 80's, i thought they were both great, loop reminded me of the pop group at times. the main records are quite good but much more experimental. this 12" single with arc lite & sunburst was my favorite. look on gemm or musicstack, the stuff isn't that hard to find.
sunra67 4 years ago
ROBBIE...duh
i saw both...your a fool.
likkleting 4 years ago
I can't believe there's a bloke on this thread who thinks Spacemen 3 were more innovative than Loop. Loop were the most intense live band at the time, more than any thrash metal or industrial music, more than Einsturzende Neubauten or the Butthole Surfers. I used to wish the Spacemen 3 fops would p*** off and have their self-indulgent 'OD catastrophe'. Them and the J&MC
RobbieDowling 4 years ago
You are Dead on. I seen them several times & the Live set was nothing short of Amazing... My mates came along with me to Glasgow Uni for the crack & they thought they were the best ever & had never heard of them before. Everybody was in on it. CLASS
paddyscot1 3 years ago
@RobbieDowling hahah. Crazy talk. L00p are a fine band, n0 d0ubt, but in the same league as Spacemen? 0f c0urse n0t.
The ripped the Spacemens s0und and yeah, they d0ne damn g00d with it. I l0ve em, but Spacemen blazed the trail. Thats a fact right there, mate ;)
DrPhibes333 1 year ago
unfortunately, this video looks like some advertising for hair conditioner.
TseTseFlyMan 4 years ago
Loop were big into their hair as evidenced by some other videos (e.g. Collision). Some good tracks but not near as innovative as Spacemen 3
daza1972 4 years ago
the first two albums are classic psychedelia in the spacemen 3 vein, they were very popular in italy at the time. shame no more videos available
empirico2001 4 years ago
Also, Robert Hampson followed Loop with a project called Main that has released many albums since then. Not many of them sound like Loop, but the early stuff might appeal to Loop fans, esp. the Hydra Calm CD. Unfortunately, that stuff is also a bitch to find!
hutlock 4 years ago
after much persistence and countless trips to the record store, i found all 6 hz eps, motion pool, and firmaments 2-4. god help me on finding the 1st.
lovelyludwig 4 years ago
Don't forget Dry Stone Feed! One of my favorite R.Hampson works ever.
MiloDC 3 years ago
need to fix the sound quality. good to see these guys in a video though..
blacklightposter 5 years ago
finding their stuff is a bitch. For those interested this group broke up and two of the guys formed a band called hair and skin trading company.
lovelyludwig 5 years ago
Unfortunately, the very beginning was cut off this one. I enjoyed this album, it wasteh one that introduced me to Loop way back when.
astrobopper 5 years ago
amen......
likkleting 5 years ago
what a shame, such an amazing song but a horrid video.
sparklerdims 5 years ago