Gaelic Song :The St Kildans Song (Oran na Hiortaich)

[xotan]

Nlí dada cearr le do Ghaeilge-sa Uistman59 - Tá súil agam go dtuigeann tú Gaeilge na hÉireann

[UISTMAN59]

@xotan Go raibh maith agat. Tuigim cupla focal. :)

[XAlphaKing7]

i want to learn Irish Gaelic so bad

[MrJoshuaPadraig]

@XAlphaKing7

Dia duit mo chara.

If your from the UK or Éire then a company called Coláiste na nGael who work for the Irish government teach Gaeilge around the countries.

Slán

- Pádraig O'hÁinle

[XAlphaKing7]

@MrJoshuaPadraig good ol' USA so idk

[MarvellousMuffin]

@XAlphaKing7

You do know that this is Scottish Gaelic though, right?

[XAlphaKing7]

@MarvellousMuffin awkward



[ealaban]

it is more of a sin to stand back and allow a culture to die than to have a few cold eyes fall upon it. who knows, perhaps it will warm those cold eyes, God alone may judge. if you have the lyrics, please share them, otherwise you are aiding and abetting in the murder of a culture, and God has your number on that. Chan eil mi gu coma ma sinn a radh nam bheurla no nam ghaelig fein. Ghiaraidh mi as nam ceol. Cuir esan ann, ma s'e do thoil e. Tang. the Carmina is now online, look there

[UISTMAN59]

@ealaban De? Chan eil mi a tuigsinn de a tha thu feuchainn ri radh ann am Beurla neo ann an Gaidhlig. Tha mi caran dhe'n bheachd gu bheil thu ag iarradh orm na faclan a chuir suas dhut ach chan eil mi cinnteach. Is ann aig Dia fhein a tha fios caite an d'fhuair thu eolas air an Dia air a bheil thu a bruidhinn. Chan eil na faclan agam gu leir ach stocha gun dean mi oidhirp air an cuir suas uaireigin.

[DasHearach]

@UISTMAN59 Ach! Thor beagan uine do'n eala bhan. 'Se Gaidhlig Chanada a tha eichde! Tha i a feachainn! Chan eil e moran nas miosa ne mo Ghaidhlig fein.

[UISTMAN59]

@DasHearach Chan eil dad cearr air do Ghaidhligsa 'ille.

[bb3ca201]

@UISTMAN59

Na cur dragh ort, Uistman. Mise cuideachd. Leugh mi -- ann am Beurla -- gun robh ise ag iarraidh na faclan, ach chan eil mi-fhín a' tuigsinn dé bha i a' ràdh. Tha e coltach nach toigh leatha thusa, mo charaid! ('S mór an truagh, tha fhios agad...)

[Aretha45001]

the most beautiful language ever! This song makes me so happy, even tough I had a very bad day today. Thank you for cheering me up!!!!!

[cornubian]

The first picture is of the 'Parliament' on Hirta:- each morning the St Kildans would gather to debate what work was to be done.

A Continental inhabitant will never be able to properly comprehend the mind and vision of an islander. Fewer still will have understanding of the life of the St Kildan people. They dwelt on the most remote of these islands and god bless them.

[bennyjohnhampson]

what a great picture at 20secs onwards

[theBRAVEreepicheep]

From the first line this song has been absurdly catchy :L

[carriellbee]

Thank you for sharing. I've not heard this one before. 

[novacanis]

someday i want to visit st. kilda. must be wonderful to see this last paradise of our earth.

[jcriedijk]

@dmcc20012 You lived there? Can I ask you how old you are?

It's 80 years ago since the last Islander left. Or did you work later

in the army station? Anyhow, it must have been a unique experience.

[jackd166]

Seo a úsáid chun a bheith mo amhrán is fearr leat seanmháthair. Conas i chailleann h

[BrodEirennach90]

@jackd166 Gártha leis sin.

[Lisnageeragh]

Any information on opening / closing  picture??

[UISTMAN59]

@Lisnageeragh It's a fairly well-known picture published by the George Washington Wilson Studio of Aberdeen, Circa. 1890. GWW (or at least his studio) also hand coloured many of his pictures for added attraction. See the priscus dot co.uk website for more info especially the hebrides pages for examples.

[Lisnageeragh]

@UISTMAN59 Thank you for info..must have a look.

[thorplands9]

I was watching a thing on TV last night about St Kilda it was very interesting if a wee bit sad .

[Andy2481]

isnt there an old scottish song called "the birks of st kilda"? i cant find it anywhere. Can anyone help?

[UISTMAN59]

@Andy2481 "The St Kilda Song" appears in the 1853 edition of the 'Scots Musical Museum', Robert Burns was a contributor and editor but probably not the author of the song. The song apparently features in an episode of "Smamllville" where it is referred to as "The Birks Of St Kilda". The song refers to willow and ivy but not birches as far as I know but in any case no trees grow on St Kilda at all and I don't think it would have had much in the way of birches for a good long time now. :-)

[sacraficialangel7]

@Andy2481 it seems that they got it wrong, and the song played is actually called loch lomond. the lyrics that lex speaks are either sourced from a song or poem with the same rhythm, or completely made up.

[UISTMAN59]

@sacraficialangel7 I am not surprised that "they got it wrong" since Smallville is of course entirely fictious and any resemblance to any persons living or dead is purely co-incidental. :-)

[sacraficialangel7]

@UISTMAN59 neither am I. I just thought I'd inform this person that they're chasing a fairytale.

[UISTMAN59]

@sacraficialangel7 fair enough :-)

[bb3ca201]

Seo na Lochies a tha seinn?

[UISTMAN59]

@bb3ca201 Tha sin ceart. :-)

[rillaconlon]

anyone got lyrics...is this song called the St. Kilda song??

[mmhoover1]

'S toigh leam fhin a' Ghaidhlig!

[LinnTractorNut]

Everytime I'm confronted by Spanish I wish I could respond in Gaelic :D Great song and rhythm by the way.

[RKHageman]

Any idea where to find the lyrics to this?

[drewcox010101]

catchy

[RKHageman]

IMHO, it's the Internet that has done a lot to save it. It's MUCh easier to fibnd native speakers to listen to than it was back in the day.

[Muirich]

Tha an Cheoil mhath! Moran taing gu sibh. Slainte, sean

[McAndy89]

Just out of interest, is Scottish Gaelic making a resergence, or is it doomed to extinction?

[UISTMAN59]

It isn't doomed to extinction while I'm alive, I can't speak for anyone else. :-)

[McAndy89]

Fair enough, is the language being taught in schools or anything like that?

[UISTMAN59]

Yes indeed, just Google "gaelic education" for sources and info. :-)

[ScotlandTheBrave88]

its still spoken up north but the majority of scots speak english, our language has been ''englifyed'' even our slang is dying out as we have to ''speak proper''

[UISTMAN59]

Don't know where you think as "up north" but Gaelic won't survive unless it is also spoken in Glasgow and Edinburgh and it encouraged in these places and also in the highlands and islands.

[ScotlandTheBrave88]

'up north' as in like inverness and northan/western isles.I know im petitioning to add gaelic to the coriculum in glasgow and edinburgh ect because it is included in the highlands and islands

[UISTMAN59]

Good for you - good luck with that! :-)

[NorthLimitation]

It's showing signs of growing in the past two years, with a lot more young speakers coming in and a lot more Gaelic courses needed at universities, so it's looking good :)

[McAndy89]

Awesome, cheers for the info. I'm disappointed its not taught where I live.

[NorthLimitation]

Aye, like Welsh if it grows a little more I'm sure it will start opening up more internationally. I had a wee check online after reading you're comment, and it seems that more youths are in Gaelic education than ever before, with the government aiming to double these numbers of the next 10 years, so aye, all looking good hopefully :)

Oh and if you want to have a wee learn of some stuff, type either 'taic' or 'beag air bheag' into google :)

[McAndy89]

Awesome, I'll do that. I believe thankyou is Tapadh Leibh, from my minute knowledge of the language :)

[NorthLimitation]

Tha sinn ceart! [That's right]

Mar sin leat an-drasta! :) [Bye for now]

[CenturyGamer]

beag air beag isn't a very good way to learn it :(, but there are basically no ways to do it online because it is almost impossible to read scottish gaelic :(

[UISTMAN59]

The first statement is true. It takes 3000 hours of serious application to learn a language but is no more impossible to read Scottish Gaelic than it is to read e.g the languageof the Thachanadan Moopan people in Kerala State, India. Any language can be learnt if enough effort is put into it. It is a pity that few people in Scotland ever bother to learn a second language while writing of Scots / Lallans / Doric as "sub-english"

[CenturyGamer]

But the thing is, even in a hundred years, gaelic will never go further than the west coast. And people don't want to live on west coast or west isles because there is no future for anyone there who is not a local

[UISTMAN59]

Well there are folk from Poland living in Uist so at least some folk see a future there :-)

[CenturyGamer]

Aha! But polish live to work. I like to think of them as the pakis and indians of eastern europe. And that just confirms my suspicions. Gaelic will be dead in 100 years due to colonists and suchlike. Whatever, i will just wait and see what happens, i am just a teenager after all, i got loads of time

[NorthLimitation]

Thing is, the largest number of Gaelic speakers in a concentrated area is now Glasgow and Inverness close behind. While the Western Isles have the most speakers in terms of percentage, the cities now have the most speakers in crude numbers.

It's possible to live in Glasgow's west end and be part of a fluent Gaelic household while sending your children through Gaelic education age 4-18. A quick wander down Argyl Street will be enough to show you that Gaelic really is flourishing at last.

[CenturyGamer]

Oh by the way, i meant it is impossible for anyone who has never been taught in it. Reading it online is impossible without teaching in real life

[NorthLimitation]

Beag air bheag is actually a very good way of learning Gaelic because listening to how it's pronounced and looking at the spelling eventually leads to a natural and intuitive understand of reading Scots Gaelic. Like all languages, it just takes time and patience.

[NorthLimitation]

I agree to be honest, I'm currently developing a website which includes a single mp3 file for each piece of vocabulary as well as a phonetic 'how to say' description beside it, so this sort might be better for you - I'll forward you the URL when it's complete (probably around March).

Learn Scots Gaelic for yourself, it doesn't have to be for any one else - you will be very glad that you did, I would know. In the future, there will definitely be a more approving view on Gaelic. Good luck!

[CenturyGamer]

Yea.. i'll learn it someday, not in the near future though, maybe in a few years when i have the time, the money, and the ambition

[UISTMAN59]

It's not about the money - it's the desire.

Gur math thèid dhut a bhalaich

May it go well with you

Iain

[talitha00cumi]

Post and send me the URL when it's ready, please!

[UISTMAN59]

Hi talitha00cumi, I don't know whether NorthLimitation would have picked up your reply - The system might just have picked up that you replied to me rather than to NorthLimitation's response. You might be better sending a message direct, :-)

Gur math thèid dhut

May it go well with you

Iain

[thepiper14]

when i was wee the lochies were getting set up in my cousins pub in stornoway and just before they played i was put out for being too young . oran na beart was always my favourite song by them .

[UISTMAN59]

I liked that one too. My father was a weaver with McDonald's of Oban who employed a good number of weavers in Uist before the Harris Tweed Industry put paid to almost all the weaving in Uist. I'll always the noise of a full shed of looms going "full pelt" in the mill at Iochdar.

[angelamacaskill]

the lochies are the name of thr band

[UISTMAN59]

Thanks Angela, I included that in the tags but neglected to note it anywhere else. Sorry about that :-(

[pictishsapien]

Another classic video Uistman! Partick Thistle fans queueing up before the match? Seriously: wonderful video.

[UISTMAN59]

I was always too mean to pay at Firhill, saw bits of their matches from up on the hill :-)

[00JTM]

Great song!! by any chance do you know who sings this?

[chintzgirl]

Great tune and once again some great

photos. Thanks for the link too!

cheers,

Karen

[trichoone]

good old tune , seemed like harsh times by the apperance of the people there rugged and hard working .

[UISTMAN59]

Hi Trichone. I'm sure these were tough times. We young ones don't know we're born - that's what they always told anyway and I'm sure it's true.

[Elderwilliam]

Good song , nice rythm

[UISTMAN59]

Thanks Elderwilliam.

[PennyPaola]

Lol, surely they didn't care about Greenpeace! xD

Thanks for this nice and happy-rhytmed song! *****

[UISTMAN59]

Hi Paola, They surely didn't, but sadly the entire community was evacuated from the island in 1930 and although it has about 2,000 visitors a year, only a very few are allowed to stay for any length of time.

[AnGillemor]

@UISTMAN59 That's typical of the National Trust for Scotland. They are a conservation mafia. As far as I know, persons over retirement age aren't allowed to visit St. Kilda either.