What I like about this performance is that the restraint he's putting on his singers makes the whole thing very transparent and all the lines can be clearly followed. What I don't like is that the drama of this powerful motet is largely erased by that same restraint. He should really have let these fine singers loose where the music dictates. The overall effect is to reduce a masterpiece to something very suitable for night time in the lobby of a 3 star hotel.
@alipitogen the music does not dictate anything, these renaissance scores were muddled up by 19th-century-æsthetical markings by editors. It's all about subtlety, not overt expression.
@musicamaxima I would hope that most conductors worth their salt ignore editorial accretions and go their own way. I think this music withstands more robust treatment but not because I have seen any score covered in dynamic directions etc. We can't really know. We would ultimately have to hear Guerrero himself giving direction, but if we could I would bet on us hearing a more passionate reading. Sorry to disagree but I'm happy to talk to a Renaissance music fan -not enough of us.
@alipitogen I understand what you mean, I often have this problem with English performances of Renaissance music - though some groups, like "I fagiolini", precisely want to perform differently.
This said, I wouldn't say the problem is quite terrible in this case since, after all, it's all about cool adoration, and I'd bet Guerrero wrote it with this in mind.
@AlainNaigeon I take and accept all your points.I actually do think this performance is beautiful. I find it actually exceptional for it's manifestation of the individual lines and it's thus perfect to listen to with the score in your hands. I should have been more specific, though. In the passage leading up to "margarita pretiosa", I think that the music calls for lifted voices, but this choir seems to surrender at the same level. It could have been really special. Guerrero might not agree.
@alipitogen I'd be interested to know, from your listening and experience, do you consider Guerrero a more satisfying composer than Victoria? I only ask because Victoria has been so much more celebrated in recent centuries, whereas , even though I adore Victoria's work, my ears and responses tell me the different story that Guerrero and Morales are slightly more important to me .
@ZeroBlack82 There's a free pdf download from Wikipedia.The version on the list with the pdf icon beside it is handiest to me. I use adobe to view them, and then just print. Go to choralwiki (www1.cpdl.org) and search Francisco Guerrero and Ave Virgo Sanctissima.
beautiful!!
shibusazappa 1 month ago
PERFECT composition, PERFECT interpretation!!
AchillesValda 1 year ago
What I like about this performance is that the restraint he's putting on his singers makes the whole thing very transparent and all the lines can be clearly followed. What I don't like is that the drama of this powerful motet is largely erased by that same restraint. He should really have let these fine singers loose where the music dictates. The overall effect is to reduce a masterpiece to something very suitable for night time in the lobby of a 3 star hotel.
alipitogen 1 year ago
@alipitogen the music does not dictate anything, these renaissance scores were muddled up by 19th-century-æsthetical markings by editors. It's all about subtlety, not overt expression.
musicamaxima 1 year ago
@musicamaxima I would hope that most conductors worth their salt ignore editorial accretions and go their own way. I think this music withstands more robust treatment but not because I have seen any score covered in dynamic directions etc. We can't really know. We would ultimately have to hear Guerrero himself giving direction, but if we could I would bet on us hearing a more passionate reading. Sorry to disagree but I'm happy to talk to a Renaissance music fan -not enough of us.
alipitogen 1 year ago
@alipitogen I understand what you mean, I often have this problem with English performances of Renaissance music - though some groups, like "I fagiolini", precisely want to perform differently.
This said, I wouldn't say the problem is quite terrible in this case since, after all, it's all about cool adoration, and I'd bet Guerrero wrote it with this in mind.
AlainNaigeon 1 year ago
@AlainNaigeon I take and accept all your points.I actually do think this performance is beautiful. I find it actually exceptional for it's manifestation of the individual lines and it's thus perfect to listen to with the score in your hands. I should have been more specific, though. In the passage leading up to "margarita pretiosa", I think that the music calls for lifted voices, but this choir seems to surrender at the same level. It could have been really special. Guerrero might not agree.
alipitogen 1 year ago
@alipitogen I'd be interested to know, from your listening and experience, do you consider Guerrero a more satisfying composer than Victoria? I only ask because Victoria has been so much more celebrated in recent centuries, whereas , even though I adore Victoria's work, my ears and responses tell me the different story that Guerrero and Morales are slightly more important to me .
alipitogen 1 year ago
Saw this live and it made me weep. I felt so foolish
UnionJaked 1 year ago
beautiful
biogramma 2 years ago
A good interpretation of a spanish composer. Religion and art in one composition. I like your video.
silpaton 2 years ago
hey could you please send me the sheet music of this beautifull song...i have love to sing it...
ZeroBlack82 2 years ago
@ZeroBlack82 There's a free pdf download from Wikipedia.The version on the list with the pdf icon beside it is handiest to me. I use adobe to view them, and then just print. Go to choralwiki (www1.cpdl.org) and search Francisco Guerrero and Ave Virgo Sanctissima.
alipitogen 1 year ago