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are ALL from the SAME PATHETIC PERSON, using various pseudonyms to come here & rant incessantly.
BLOCK HIM from your profile page, because he'll flood it with his repeated nonsensical rant.
He's a brainwashed loser, who lives in total frustration of having lost the elections. I seriously doubt he'll survive the next 8 yrs with President Obama.
lol, by repeated nonsensical rant, I assume you mean where I ask you a question about whether you agree with a statement that BHO made, and you refuse to answer.
this question, is this the "rant" you are talking about?
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Since Obama's landslide victory, there are so many positive blogs all over the internet, that the McCain supporters, commonly called the LOSERS, gather here to vent their frustration & complain.
Suggestion: NEWSBUSTED should be renamed "WATERHOLE FOR THE LOSERS."
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
I notice you still have me blocked on your profile. just your way to censor the other views. must suck to be so insecure that you won't even let people post comments that disagree with you.
TAKEN FROM YOUR OWN PROFILE PAGE: ... "I work with the YOUTH at church, which I love doing. I love PHOTOGRAPHY, and am seriously trying to make a profession of it"....
I was wondering...ARE YOU A CATHOLIC PRIEST per chance?
YOUTH? PHOTOGRAPHY? Nothing would surprise me with you!!
I like how you have to block me from your page, because you don't like being chalenged about the policy of BHO, but you feel like you have the right to post on my site that I am a pedophile,
Since you are a lib I don't expect fairness, it just proves that the left has no bottom when it come to deciency.
Your post to my profile page pretty well proves that you are a coward
NO I am married with children, if you had ACTUALLY read my profile you would have known that. I will leave the small boys to you they seem to be closed to your level anyway, anagram man, do you actually impress anyone but 3rd grade boys anyway?
is that how you do it, read them an anagram and then let them play your video games
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MARRIED?? You mean like republicans Mark Foley, or Ted Haggard, or Larry Craig, or Bob Allen, or Glenn Murphy Jr??? etc, etc, etc.
The list is far too long...but you get the point!!
Your professed pronunced love for "Youth & Photography" ... I wonder what the FBI could find on your hard drive. But for a republican, this is so rampant and so well spread, that it is considered to be the norm.
I need not to tell...you're well aware of all the republican scandals...they're all over the net.
nice evade and smear, typical lib responce, you are affraid to answer so you attack with any thing you can come up with to make the other person look bad.
1. I work with the middleschool and highschool programing at church. I run the lioghts and the soundfor the youth worship, and guess what. I love doing it, because the kids get to worship and praise God and I get to help them, libro wants to make that dirty because he is some closet atheist and hates the idea of leading youth to the lord
2. I am an amature photographer and someday hope yo make a profession of it, why? because it is something I love doing, portraits, weddings, family photos, school senior shots, and again libro wants to make it dirty probably because of his closet homosexuality, you notice how that is first strike against me, I think he uses it because it is the one thing in his own life that he is most drawn to and at the same time embarassed by. classic closet case.
also, hase everyone on ehere, lib and cobservative noticed how he just refuses to answer the question about BHO and his National Civilian Security Force? really, he worships at the feet of BHO, he makes Chris Mathews look like a McCain supporter and yet he wont say wether he agrees with BHO.
Gasp!!! you don't think that maybe he disagrees with the choosen one do you?
You are a sad, sick, twisted little man. No, you can't be a man. You are more likely a boy and a very lonely one at that. Find a girlfriend and stop living in your delusions.
Isn't it funny how in May, newspapers liked McCain because of his 30 years as a moderate, and Republicans were wondering how the heck he got the nomination - then just three months later the furthest left candidate ever to run for President is a moderate and McCain is a Bush clone.
Citizens could have had a moderate healing President - now we can just look forward to four more years of devisiveness and higher taxes and 10% unemployment. Too bad
WHY McCAIN LOST !!! REPUBLICANS controlled the CONGRESS for 12 years!! BUSH was president for 8 years!! See what THAT CORRUPTED PARTY has done to our Nation!! MANY ARE IN JAIL!! McCAIN sided with BUSH 90% of the time. McCAIN HELPED create THE MESS WERE IN!! The American People "DID NOT FORGET" The American People "DID NOT ELECT" another REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT! McCain, YOU & YOUR PARTY BLEW IT--YOU GOT FIRED!! Long live President Obama.
I still can't believe people vote Republican because they are supposedly "pro-life". They only seem to be "pro-life" if your unborn, once your born your fucked. Most are against stem cell research and all for starting wars in third world countries. But hey, there is tax cuts for the people that already have the most money! That's something to look forward to. Oh wait...
we believe that babys are people and based on BHO's votes you don't. even after birth ythe baby is a pre viable fetus. so even after a baby is born, if you were trying to kill it yopu still can, even if it is born alive.
don't even sit there and try and pretend that you have any compassion for life, when the life of a newborn is nothing to you
smarhaus--You've read my mind. You forgot to mention that the Republicans voted against the expansion of the S-Chip program to provide Health Insurance to 9 millions middle class Americans children.
They said they're against abortion, but are against ALL methods to prevent unwanted pregnancy--against all types of birth control pills, condoms--against high school sex education, which would reduce abortion.
Their motto is--once you're born--you're on your own.
S-chip was voted down because they were trying to expand it to families who could afford to insure themselves and to illeagle immigrants.
I don't care what kind of birth control you use, Conservatives just don't believe that condoms and Birth control pills should be given out free in schools or paid for with tax money. I notice how you specify that you specify "highschool" sex ed. as you know that gets taught in just about EVERY public school....
what we think should happen is that abstinance should be taught as well, because conservatives, unlike liberals believe that kids are capable of self control, where as your motto seems to be, we can't stop them so we might as well make it easy for them.
we also object to sex ed taught to kids who can't read yet, unlike BHO who thinks they should learn sex ed with their colors and numbers.
Libs motto seems to be "IF you get born we will take care of everything"
At least conservative believe that a baby that is born alive is a person, BHO doesn't. he thinks that a baby who survives an abortion should be left to die, because calling in a doctore would put to great a burden on the mother and abortion doctor after an already difficult decission.
In 2001, Obama voted no in committee, spoke against it on the Senate floor, and voted present on the floor. Obama was the only Senator to speak against it on the floor. His objection was it would give legal protection to a "previable fetus." He said "whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution,....
...what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a a child, a nine-month-old -- child that was delivered to term." On August 19, 2008, the Obama campaign issued a memo in which it singled out "(c) A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law." as "Language Clearly Threatening Roe."
pwf2412--You cannot possibly imagine the extreme pleasure I get in watching you rant incessantly...on and on and on.
But OBAMA WON!! WE THE PEOPLE WON!!
... and there's NOTHING you can do about it!! Ha! Ha!
So keep on ranting my friend. We Obama's mass-supporters all GREATLY enjoy watching you rant in total frustration. It beats banging your head against the wall I guess.
Keep gloting. You'll be laughing out the other side of your face in four years. Obama, the rock star, won based on the emotion of his maniac O-bots. They will soon be gone once they figure out he won't pay their mortages or pay for their gas and can't take all the nations of the world and "make them friends." Libro, you are the textbook case of a mindless O-bot. It's almost worth the next four years of hell to see your disillusionment in your messiah.
A baby is a person when the BRAIN of that homo sapiens baby has developed to the point that it's "functionning" normally, "separating" it from all other "mammal" animal species.
The outside appearance or bodily shell is irrelevant. It's the BRAIN that defines it as being human. The body is an organism that only serves to keep that BRAIN alive.
In a far future a human BRAIN implanted into an android "man-made" shell, will render that android...human.
so an austic child is NOT a person? is it a person until it is diagnosed with autism then it's not? what about a down syndrom baby, is it a person? a mentaly retarded adult, are they people? what about adults with dementia? are they still people?
if "It's the BRAIN that defines it as being human" and it has to be ""functionning" normally"
by your definition some elderly people would not be people, correct?
You are an idiot. That is the most moronic statement ever made by you or anyone else here. Ask any mother if her newborn is a person or not. It's brain is merely functioning on an instictual level at that point, but it is indeed a person. I repeat: You are an idiot. It's going to be funny watching you meltdown as Obama puts his socialist plan in place.
You are lying. This is a simple question that does not require you to think or draw any conclusions since you appear to be incapable. He was YOUR candidate. Do you agree with his plans or not? To refuse to answer further proves that you are a mind-numb O-bot. Stop embarrassing yourself.
The funny thing is I'm not ranting. your guy won, he gets to be president, yeah... big deal, so what?
Guess what I didn't vote for Bill Clinton and yet I somehow managed to survive 8 years under him, I don't see a big problem here.
Did I like President Bush, Mostly, certainly better than Gore or Kerry, did I agree with him on most things, not economicly most of the time, and yet I survived him too.
pwf2412--The fact that you twice voted for Bush....a man deemed to be the worst president in US history....again accentuates your extreme lack of analytical logic.
Deem by whom, a bunch of liberals? Jimmy Carter wrecked the economy with double-digit inflation and unemployment. He made the country look absolutely impotent in the face of Islamic aggression. Your opinions about Bush are worth about as much as a three-dollar-bill. You continue to rant and gloat. You only voted for Obama because he wasn't a Republican. Your refusal to answer Pwf's questions about partial birth abortions and Obama's Gestapo prove it.
You spent the last eight years ranting about Bush as "illegitimate" because Algore couldn't manufacture enough votes through the court system to win Florida. I think we have the right to criticise the way Obama went back on his world to limit his campaign war chest and bought the election. He won my state by flooding the same lies on TV and radio day after day. Some people will believe anything. You're proof of that. Four and out. The bloom will soon fall.
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
There you go with the "We the People" stuff again. You do realize that Obama just barely won the popular vote. He won the electoral vote in my state by only one percentage point. 50-49%. Obama doesn't like the Constitution. It is too limiting in what the government can do to you, (read wealth redistribution). He said so himself. Don't you even know what your candidate said? No? That's sad, another mind-numb O-bot.
Electoral votes are all or nothing, so even if a candidate wins by 2 votes he gets all of the electoral votes, so a 49 50 split in popular vote would lead to a full winn in electoral votes, dumbass.
there is no mandate in electoral votes, the mandate comes from the popular vote. and BHO did NOT win in a landslide, which he should have.
What is it with you reps?? Cry babies the whole bunch of you. I bet when you lost at a ballgame at school, you ran to the arms of your mommy, crying. Total whimps.
I look forward to 8 years of your crying and whimpering. You have no one to blame but your corrupt & incompetent republican party.
Boo-hoo-hoo!! Boo-hoo-hoo!!
We the People have spoken. C'est la vie.
No need for me to further this useless exchange. I'm out of here. Ciao loser!!
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Barack Hussein Obama
July 2nd 2008
Colorado Springs CO
Do you agree with this statement?
Yes or NO?
this is a direct quote from BHO, do you agree with this statement?
If you want to see just how ignorant the typical Obama voters were about their candidate, I dare you to go here. I knew every one of these but these so-called "intelligent" Obama voters were completely oblivious. Your side's complete lack of knowledge about the guy you're so proud to have elected is frightening.
Librophile doesn't understand anything that doesn't come from the propoganda machine at PMSNBC. He actually suggested that people switched from Fox News to MSNBC to get the "real facts". PMSNBC has about 8 viewers. They fired two of thier anchors for being too partisan. They must have been giving BHO BJ's or something to have been deemed too partisan for MSNBC.
We loose? You are as dumb as Barry...by the way there's 50 states, a kid with asthma needs an inhaler, 12 people were killed in that Kansas town, there's qualified speech therapists for that annoying stutter, yes, it very much still is a Christian country, no I've never confused my Christian faith for muslim faith, my pastor and wife are not been militant separatists, I don't think the flag is a symbol of hate, the servicemen and women's lives were not wasted and it's spelled L-O-S-E, loser!
You wrote "you are as dumb as Barry" ... so if Barack is extremely smart, which he is, that makes me also a pretty sharp guy as well. So ... ranting-redneck-republican moron ... I'll take it as a compliment.
Now do the rest of the country a favor and go hang yourself.
if you are so sharp, you shouldn't have any trouble answering this question.
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Look at the popular vote, moron. Obama only won the popular vote by a few percentage points. That's where you decide if a candiate has a mandate or not. I see the changes coming: Higher taxes for all, a Gestapo, er civilian security force, an end to secret ballots in unionization elections, and a return to the unfairness doctrine. These are the changes Obama had planned. Pity PMSNBC never reported them.
Because to become a police officer, one needs to know how to "READ" to a perpetrator, his Miranda rights ... and "WRITE" a ticket to a traffic infraction violator.
My preschooler could come up with a better come back than that. You are such an idiot, it stopped being funny. You are a lonely, pitiable individual. While I sit here in my comfortable suburban home, you sit in your mother's basment shoving french fries into your zit-covered face. No wonder you don't show your own face on you profile page.
Amazing that Republicans have had the Presidency for 20 of 28 years, yet everything is the Democrats fault. If the Republicans in power stuck to their parties original ideals I would agree with you, but unfortunately they just start wars and prohibit life saving scientific medical research.
I agree that the republican should have stuck to their core, but they moved to the left and look what happened.
and the Republicans may have held the presidency for 20 of 28 years, but look how long the dems held congress.
the only good thing about this next two years is that everything will be the Dems fault, you won't be able to blame the republicans for anything, you hold all power, so good or bad it's all on you
I agree that the republican should have stuck to their core, but they moved to the left and look what happened.
and the Republicans may have held the presidency for 20 of 28 years, but look how long the dems held congress.
the only good thing about this next two years is that everything will be the Dems fault, you won't be able to blame the republicans for anything, you hold all power, so good or bad it's all on you
Your statement on his stance and Illinois' law on failed abortions is incorrect. You may not harm any baby that is alive outside of the mother.
On your second post- I am not democrat. So it's not "all on me". I vote Libertarian.
I don't agree with the dem's economic policy, and I don't want government healthcare. I don't want to bail out all the companies, and I despise welfare. I'm far from democrat.
you call your seld a libertarian, and yet here you are trashing republicans and taking up for democrats,
hmmmmm, seeing as how the libertarian view is more closely aligned with republicans than dems, I find it hard to believe your statement, especially after your defence of BHO on the infant born alive act
An impartial third party checked on Obama's claim that Right to Life was lying about the Illinois laws on record. It was determined that they were telling the truth and Obama was "incorrect". The law did not protect the lives of babies born as a result of botched "partial birth abortions", a vulgar and barbaric practice itself.
REPUBLICANS controlled the CONGRESS for 12 years!! BUSH was president for 8 years!! See what THAT CORRUPTED PARTY has done to our Nation !! MANY ARE IN JAIL !! McCAIN sided with BUSH 90% of the time. McCAIN HELPED create THE MESS WERE IN !! The American People "DID NOT FORGET" The American People "DID NOT ELECT" another REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT! John McCain YOU & YOUR PARTY BLEW IT---YOU GOT FIRED !! Long live Obama and a NEW DEMOCRAT GOVERNMENT.
nice just like a lib, go for the personal insult right out of the gate.
You don't have a responce to the substance of the post so you attack me and my spelling and typing.
Sad.
as I have pointed out numerous times, my typing sucks and my spelling is almost as bad, but if you feel the need to correct every mistake, be my guset. but you're going to be very busy
Take off your aluminum foil hat. Oh and it was the democrats and their bright idea to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford to pay them back, and their bright idea to not let us drill for our own oil that got us into this current mess.
jtkirkfan2002: "No one, including Bush EVER claimed that Iraq had any connection to 9/11. Try to find where anyone said that. You can't."
"Along with the contention that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top administration officials have often asserted that there were extensive ties between Hussein's government and Osama bin Laden's terrorist network; earlier this year, Cheney said evidence of a link was "overwhelming."
are they terrorists? is that what you are implying? that my family are terrorists?
if my son was a terrorist and waterboarding was used on him to prevent innocent people from dying, then so be it. because at the end of it all, he is still alive, but the people he may have been planning to kill would not have been.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. I have NEVER condoned the use of these practices AGAINST civillians, shopw me anywhere I did.
this entire conversation has been about using these..
practices against terrorists in order to extract information concerning future attacks, but somehow in your twisted little mind to seem to equate terrorists with innocent people, that is why you keep asking if I would use them on my family.
I already said that it's use is for terrorists, and they have been the only people it has been used against, but you want to muddy the water and pretend everyone is the same
I'd give it up with Matryx. He is apparently incapable of undstanding the difference between using advanced interrogation on someone who is a known terrorist and has information that will save lives, and just using it on someone off the street. To him they are the same thing. Now you know where the term "bleeding heart liberal" comes from. They coddle evil and place it on equal footing with innocent people
"You still havent addressed the waterboarding of the family and would it be torture if it happened to them?"
Are you high or jsut stupid? Both of us have answered that question more than once. For the last time: Waterboarding is not torture. No, I would not subject my family to such an act for no good reason. It they were terror suspects, I would say use any means necessary to extricate information that would save lives. Get that through your head.
Going to the beach is not torture for some. Spending a night in a comfy bed is not torture. Going to a football game isnt torture.
You wouldnt worry about subjecting your family to that for no reason. If waterboarding isnt torture, then that shouldnt bother you. Your family should be fine. And again, you didnt remove the terrorist from the act of waterboarding. Follow along here.
FOCUS! I have said repeatedly that it most definitely is NOT torture. It is unpleasant, but it is not torture. It most definitely scares the hell out of the subject. I would not subject anyone to it, family or not, for no good reason, just like I would never point a gun at another human being for no good reason. Different behavior is proper for different situations. How much more clearer do I need to make it or are you just that stupid?
By your definition, anytime Obama speaks is torture. In fact anytime any liberal opens his or her mouth it's torture because the nonsene and lies that spew forth most definitely cause me mental anguish. Fact is you had to read down to the fourth selection to find a description that remotely fits. Waterboarding is not torture as most people would see it. The rack, iron maiden, those are tortures. Scaring someone is not. Nice try.
"jtkirkfan2002 has replied to your comment on NewsBusted 11/11/08: Dems Still Celebrating:
No one, including President Bush EVER claimed that Iraq had any connection to 9/11. Try to find where anyone said that. You can't."
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, June 17, 2004; Page A01
The Sept. 11 commission reported yesterday that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda, challenging one of the Bush administration's main justifications for the war in Iraq."
Show me where Bush said it. not where someone SAID Bush said it.
Bush was accused of doing and saying a lot of things that he never said.
Don't quote where someone said Bush said it, Show the actual Bush quote.
Kind of like MSNBC reporting about palin not knowing that Africa wasn't just a country, and now they have to retract the story because it was a fake made up by libs and reported hook line and sinker by the press
Sarah Palin's quote about not knowing that Africa is a continent, started within the McCain campaign staff.
One of McCain's own attorney explained later how the rumor got started & was retracted. Obama campaign staff nor the Democrats had anything to do with it.
Watch MSNBC Keith Olberman/Rachel Maddow instead of FoxNews IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH.
Republicans/FoxNews are expert liars as we all know & saw during the entire McCain/Palin campaign.
David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a Fox News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.
Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist;
each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish,the New York Times reported Wednesday.
The Eisenstadt claim had mistakenly been delivered to Shuster by a producer and was used in a political discussion Monday afternoon, MSNBC said.
"The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. "We recognized the error almost immediately and ran a correction on air within minutes."
THe quote was from the Washington Post. They used quotation marks around "overwhelming". There are youtube posts of Cheney trying to link, or tie Iraq to 9/11. Do you know what it means to link or tie someone to something? Like Faux News tried to tie President Elect Obama to terrorists. ("A Terrorist fist bump?") if you are familiar with law and politics, somethings you come out and say, other things you say with the caveat that you can get out of any personal responsibility.
you mean like when BHO had a fundraiser in the home of a domestic terrorist, who as reciently as last year said that the weather underground DIDN'T do enough
is that the kind of connection you are talking about?
Obama IS tied to a terrorist. His name is William Ayres and he helped form the Weather Underground in the '60's. He is non-repentent about setting bombs in the '60's and says, "I wish we did more." He and Obama served on committees together and as PWF points out, Ayres hosted a campaign launch in his home for Obama's Illinois Senate campaign. There is no incinuation. HE IS connected to a known terrorist.
Washington, Dec. 17, 2003 - In 1981, as Scott Hinckley prepared to have dinner at Neil Bush's (brother of the current president), Hinckley's brother, John Hinckley, prepared to shoot President Reagan, which could have made Bush's father president."
Now if Bush were a democrat, you would be all over it. Since hes a republican, in neocon fashion, you will ignore it.
Sorry, I don't debate with people who wear little aluminum foil hats. John Hinckly was a nut job who tried to assasinate the president to impress Jodi Foster.
Obama is friends with Ayres. He went to Chicago to seek out people like him and Jeremiah Wright. Ayres is not someone's crazy brother. He is someone Obama sought out and received counsel from.
Your insult is unwarranted and irrelevant. Then again, coming from a fan of newsbusted, I wouldnt expect something clever or relevant.
Hinckley was a nut job AND friend of the Bushs. If you are going to crucify someone for associates, then accept the Bush family has friends and associates that have done FAR worse. The Nazis, who Prescott worked for killed MILLIONS.
You don't get it, do you? Bush wasn't influenced by John Hinckley. Obama's past, his writings, his associations and what he says when he thinks no one is listening, all point to the idea that he is as radical or even more so than Ayres. Most of you people were so excited to be "part of history" and elect a black president that you didn't stop to research what he really stood for.
Most of us people huh? Simple labeling. And you havent addressed the bin Laden family or the Nazis, nor will I expect you to.
Are you a minority? Have you been a minority? (Meaning you werent apart of the majority, not some genetic makeover, so dont try to get Trekkie on me.)
I have been. Wright? Unless you have been a minority or are familiar with struggles of black folks and have been a part of it, then you wouldnt understand what hes saying or where hes coming from.
I understand enough that what Wright says is hateful and bitter and has no place coming out of the mouth of a man of God. He is an America-hating black separatist. His kind is why so many blacks live in poverty in the most prosperous nation on Earth. They don't believe they can do any better while he builds million dollar homes. God will see he answers for his sins.
I figure if the drive-by media couldn't find anything with the Nazi connection or the bin Laden connection, then there is nothing there to find. They would milk it if they could, even if they had to make up the documents to back up their allegations.
I did address them. All of your "associations" are two and three people removed. I also don't have any patience with "unless you're like me you wouldn't understand." I was born on the wrong side of the tracks and had to work for everything I've got. I grew up in a neighborhood where I was the minority. Oh, and the "you people" comment had nothing to do with race. It applies to all Obama voters. Most of the people that I know who wanted to be "part of history" were also white.
George H. W. Bush was a war hero in WWII. All of your "associations" are two and three people removed. Obama is friends with Bill Ayres, a known terrorist. He is friends with Jeremiah Wright, a racist, white-hating, America-hating black separatist. Obama also sought out those relationships.
I posted New York Times and Washington post articles and said there are videos on youtube that state the same thing, yet you ignore it. jtkirkfan2002: "No one, including President Bush EVER claimed that Iraq had any connection to 9/11. Try to find where anyone said that. You can't."
You said, "no one" and "EVER". Those are your words. Bushs own VP tried to make the tie in a video I mentioned earlier. Therefore, SOMEONE made the claim disproving your argument. Next topic.....
Neocons would be fine with McCain winning, the genocide of muslims, wars with Iran, North Korea, Russia, essentially world domination before looking inward to solve our own problems. Personal accountability isnt what Neocons are about. History, and their actions have proven it.
By the way, neocons find these posts funny. I have only watched 2 of the Newsbusted clips. I appreciate all forms of comedy and they were both sad at best.
Lib's would be fine with the death's of thousands of innocent people at the hands of terrorists since "We deserve it" for trying to promote freedom and democracy around the world. They'll be fine with Obama raising taxes, suppressing the First Amendment and creating his Gestapo "civilian security force" until it affects them. By then it will be too late. And if Lib's are so into "personal accountibility", then why are you so into rewarding sloth and non-productive people?
There is a difference between stopping attacks against us and genocide of a group of people so we can "feel safe".
How many innocent people do you think died in Iraq? How many people do you think died because Bush didnt act on intelligence given to him? How many innocent people die due to work place accidents so a company can save some money? Neocons arent about protecting lives, get over yourself.
Where did this genocide nonsense come from? What race are we trying to erradicate? You lib's just can't stick to the subject. However watching you meltdown is funny. Clinton ignored several opportunities to get Bin Laden. Why doesn't he share in your little blame game?
I happen to be on my company's safety committee. The USA is one of the safest places on Earth to work. Try not to meltdown so much and stay on topic.
The genocide talk is from the neocon plan to eliminate the muslim extremists. No neocon knows whos who. Since you dont know whos who, but we wont be safe until they are eliminated, where do you stop? Many neocons I have talked to says eliminate them all.
On the bin Laden stand point, passing on the opportunity goes back to Bush Sr. as well. so there are 3 presidents to blame. 2 happen to be family friends. One happened to be in office when it happened.
What "plot" are you talking about? While some ignorant racists may have talked about a plot to eliminate Muslims, there is no government plan to eliminate the Muslim society. Wait, maybe there is. Let's ask Sen. Robert Byrd-D. He used to be in the KKK.
Lets ask State representative David Duke-R, former grand wizard of the KKK.
As I have had this conversation with many neocons, terrorism is instilling terror in other people. Terror is a state of being. Phobias are terrifying for people. What type of bullets do you recommend to kill terror? Teflon coated? Hollow point?
As far as muslims go, there are many neocons who dont know muslims from muslims extremists. where do you stop when you start eliminating them? do you know where to stop?
I have asked you once before to define "neocon" ("neo" meaning "new"). I am not one of the "new conservatives". Which "neocons" don't know Muslims from Muslim extremists? Name one that I might have heard of. You're not talking about me. Some of our neighbors are Muslims. Their oldest and my oldest are best friends. Their younger kids and my younger kids play together. Just like a typical liberal, you want to put everyone in a neat little box with a label.
If I threw out names of neocons I debated with, then it would assume you all know each other and putting you all "in a neat little box with a label." Contradict much?
Your arguments lack logic and direction. You are too simple minded to carry on a serious debate.
I'm speaking of anyone that I might have heard of. Someone with a rudimentary intellect would have understood that. Sorry for overestimating you. You still haven't defined "neocon". You use it so flipantly, but don't understand its meaning.
I figured you already understood what the term neocon meant, so defining it would insult your intelligence which is why I separated them from Republicans. I wouldnt have if they werent the NEW Conservatives. I will leave you with that. You are too simple minded and unworthy of a legitimate debate.
Oh, and its not about YOUR definition or YOUR neighbors or tracking down people YOU heard of. Its not about YOU. There are over 6 billion others here.
I do understand. I was waiting for you to define the word since you've used it incorrectly so many times. There is a difference between Republicans, conservatives and neoconservatives. We conservatives are furhter to the right. We don't believe in big deficits, or government handouts and bailouts. Neocons are the "centrists". You've been getting it wrong. When I said "I", I meant anyone. Sorry that you were too simple to understand that.
I also figured a US Senator (and a Democrat) who was in the Ku Klux Klan, would know if anyone did of a plot to eliminate another race or culture. David Duke is a nobody. Most people under the age of 30 wouldn't even recognize the name. The irony is that he was demonized, (rightly so) when he tried to run for national office. Byrd holds a national office, is a Dem, and a former Klan member himself. Where is the outrage from the left over that?
I noticed how you were quick to pull in a democrat in the KKK for no reason. The republicans had their KKK grand wizard too.
How many lefties have you talked to? If you have, then you would know that yes, lefties have and do have issues with Byrds history.
Whats worse is Bush has been the worst president in history plunging our country in record deficit and yet he wasnt impeached. Again, neocon thinking of worrying about other people when you have bigger demons to deal with.
Still laughing my ass off...
Mostly at these comments from liberal numb nuts...
Silverback914 3 years ago 7
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God bless Obama. Obama in 2012!
Yoganao 3 years ago
@Yoganao Obama sucks. BOO
metalcomn109 1 month ago
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BEWARE ALL VIEWERS: ALL POSTS FROM ...
"jk241958" ... "jtkirkfan2002" ... "pwf2412"
are ALL from the SAME PATHETIC PERSON, using various pseudonyms to come here & rant incessantly.
BLOCK HIM from your profile page, because he'll flood it with his repeated nonsensical rant.
He's a brainwashed loser, who lives in total frustration of having lost the elections. I seriously doubt he'll survive the next 8 yrs with President Obama.
He's in dire need of professional help.
librophile 3 years ago
lol, by repeated nonsensical rant, I assume you mean where I ask you a question about whether you agree with a statement that BHO made, and you refuse to answer.
this question, is this the "rant" you are talking about?
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Barack Hussein Obama
July 2nd 2008
pwf2412 3 years ago
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NewsBusted is unfunny, & nothing more than corrupt corporate right wing reactionaries making fun of regular working people.
btw-Nixon lived as a crook & died a crook.
spacestate 3 years ago
lol
pwf2412 3 years ago
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cunt
PumpvIsBack 3 years ago
liberal
pwf2412 3 years ago
con-servative retard!!
librophile 3 years ago
People with 147 IQ's and who make $250,000 a year don't use words such as "retard". However people who make Big Mac's do use such words.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago 9
These videos are great!
jovetj 3 years ago
Wow what that sucked.
kittyfromme 3 years ago
Since Obama's landslide victory, there are so many positive blogs all over the internet, that the McCain supporters, commonly called the LOSERS, gather here to vent their frustration & complain.
Suggestion: NEWSBUSTED should be renamed "WATERHOLE FOR THE LOSERS."
OBAMA WON!! WE THE PEOPLE WON!! YEA!!
librophile 3 years ago
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Barack Hussein Obama
July 2nd 2008
Colorado Springs CO
Do you agree with this statement?
Yes or NO?
pwf2412 3 years ago
I notice you still have me blocked on your profile. just your way to censor the other views. must suck to be so insecure that you won't even let people post comments that disagree with you.
most people call that fear
pwf2412 3 years ago
TAKEN FROM YOUR OWN PROFILE PAGE: ... "I work with the YOUTH at church, which I love doing. I love PHOTOGRAPHY, and am seriously trying to make a profession of it"....
I was wondering...ARE YOU A CATHOLIC PRIEST per chance?
YOUTH? PHOTOGRAPHY? Nothing would surprise me with you!!
librophile 3 years ago
I like how you have to block me from your page, because you don't like being chalenged about the policy of BHO, but you feel like you have the right to post on my site that I am a pedophile,
Since you are a lib I don't expect fairness, it just proves that the left has no bottom when it come to deciency.
Your post to my profile page pretty well proves that you are a coward
pwf2412 3 years ago
NO I am married with children, if you had ACTUALLY read my profile you would have known that. I will leave the small boys to you they seem to be closed to your level anyway, anagram man, do you actually impress anyone but 3rd grade boys anyway?
is that how you do it, read them an anagram and then let them play your video games
pwf2412 3 years ago
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MARRIED?? You mean like republicans Mark Foley, or Ted Haggard, or Larry Craig, or Bob Allen, or Glenn Murphy Jr??? etc, etc, etc.
The list is far too long...but you get the point!!
Your professed pronunced love for "Youth & Photography" ... I wonder what the FBI could find on your hard drive. But for a republican, this is so rampant and so well spread, that it is considered to be the norm.
I need not to tell...you're well aware of all the republican scandals...they're all over the net.
librophile 3 years ago
nice evade and smear, typical lib responce, you are affraid to answer so you attack with any thing you can come up with to make the other person look bad.
1. I work with the middleschool and highschool programing at church. I run the lioghts and the soundfor the youth worship, and guess what. I love doing it, because the kids get to worship and praise God and I get to help them, libro wants to make that dirty because he is some closet atheist and hates the idea of leading youth to the lord
pwf2412 3 years ago
2. I am an amature photographer and someday hope yo make a profession of it, why? because it is something I love doing, portraits, weddings, family photos, school senior shots, and again libro wants to make it dirty probably because of his closet homosexuality, you notice how that is first strike against me, I think he uses it because it is the one thing in his own life that he is most drawn to and at the same time embarassed by. classic closet case.
pwf2412 3 years ago
also, hase everyone on ehere, lib and cobservative noticed how he just refuses to answer the question about BHO and his National Civilian Security Force? really, he worships at the feet of BHO, he makes Chris Mathews look like a McCain supporter and yet he wont say wether he agrees with BHO.
Gasp!!! you don't think that maybe he disagrees with the choosen one do you?
pwf2412 3 years ago
You wrote: I am an "amature" photographer?
You're either an "immature" photographer ... most likely. Or an "amateur" photographer.
One thing your are not is an "educated" photographer. Take some evening adult classes & learn how to spell. People here are laughing at you.
librophile 3 years ago
lol, I already admitted that my spelling is almost as bad as my typing.
mine is that I am a bad speller
and yours seems to be that you are a homophobic bigot.
and you are right, people here are laughing, but they are not laughing at me
pwf2412 3 years ago
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pwf2412--You wrote: "I love doing it, because the kids get to worship and praise God---leading youth to the lord." (*)
(Lord always takes a capital "L"--Obviously you didn't know that & subsequently reveal yourself to have a pretended/false Christian belief).
(*) You mean EXACTLY LIKE scandalous Rev. Ted Haggart with his "Jesus Camps" ??? (It's on youtube).
OK! I get it. Stay in denial...most republicans do, until they are irrefutably & shamefully exposed for what they truly are.
librophile 3 years ago
oh wait, you forgot John Edwards and jessie Jackson, my list is just as long ...but you get the point
pwf2412 3 years ago
pwf2412--Do you realize how warped your mind is, to compare adultery with pedophilia?
I know for a republican it's all the same. But for decent Americans like us Democrats, there's a hell of a difference between the 2.
librophile 3 years ago
You are a sad, sick, twisted little man. No, you can't be a man. You are more likely a boy and a very lonely one at that. Find a girlfriend and stop living in your delusions.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago 3
I notice that besides calling me a pedophile, you still won't answer a simple question about BHO.
What a sad, pathetic loser you truely are.
You won't answer the question, so you have to smear the person who asks the question, kind of like what happened to Joe the plumber.
he asked a question and BHO provrd what he really was so instead of explaining him,self the left smeard Joe.
great system you have, avoid answering serious questions just attack the person.
pwf2412 3 years ago
It would futile to answer your question, You have your own warped reality. You wouldn't recognize the truth if it bit you on the ass.
Didn't you vote for Bush TWICE & McCain?
So there you go. Luckily WE THE PEOPLE saw through all the republican BS...finally.
McCain in 2000 condemned Bush's lies & sleazy/dirty campaign against him. But he then used the same lies dirty/sleazy tactics against Obama!!
McCain dishonored himself & proved that he has no moral values. He's YOUR man...NOT MINE.
librophile 3 years ago
162 electoral votes for McBush/McSame/McCain
Isn't it funny how in May, newspapers liked McCain because of his 30 years as a moderate, and Republicans were wondering how the heck he got the nomination - then just three months later the furthest left candidate ever to run for President is a moderate and McCain is a Bush clone.
Citizens could have had a moderate healing President - now we can just look forward to four more years of devisiveness and higher taxes and 10% unemployment. Too bad
DelsFan 3 years ago
librophile 3 years ago
Someone get rid of this chick. She is NOT funny. You SUCK!!!!!!
CheapSushi 3 years ago
I want to marry Jodie Miller.
photomike1954 3 years ago
I still can't believe people vote Republican because they are supposedly "pro-life". They only seem to be "pro-life" if your unborn, once your born your fucked. Most are against stem cell research and all for starting wars in third world countries. But hey, there is tax cuts for the people that already have the most money! That's something to look forward to. Oh wait...
smarhaus 3 years ago
we believe that babys are people and based on BHO's votes you don't. even after birth ythe baby is a pre viable fetus. so even after a baby is born, if you were trying to kill it yopu still can, even if it is born alive.
don't even sit there and try and pretend that you have any compassion for life, when the life of a newborn is nothing to you
pwf2412 3 years ago
smarhaus--You've read my mind. You forgot to mention that the Republicans voted against the expansion of the S-Chip program to provide Health Insurance to 9 millions middle class Americans children.
They said they're against abortion, but are against ALL methods to prevent unwanted pregnancy--against all types of birth control pills, condoms--against high school sex education, which would reduce abortion.
Their motto is--once you're born--you're on your own.
Hypocrisy at its best.
librophile 3 years ago
Wrong again.
S-chip was voted down because they were trying to expand it to families who could afford to insure themselves and to illeagle immigrants.
I don't care what kind of birth control you use, Conservatives just don't believe that condoms and Birth control pills should be given out free in schools or paid for with tax money. I notice how you specify that you specify "highschool" sex ed. as you know that gets taught in just about EVERY public school....
pwf2412 3 years ago
what we think should happen is that abstinance should be taught as well, because conservatives, unlike liberals believe that kids are capable of self control, where as your motto seems to be, we can't stop them so we might as well make it easy for them.
we also object to sex ed taught to kids who can't read yet, unlike BHO who thinks they should learn sex ed with their colors and numbers.
Libs motto seems to be "IF you get born we will take care of everything"
pwf2412 3 years ago
A perfect example of a republican troll. Totally brainwashed by FoxNews (FauxNews)false propaganda.
No illegal immigrants would have been covered under the S-Chip program.
Obama does NOT support killing babies, or letting them die if they survive a failed abortion.
This question WAS in deed brought up during the 3rd presidential debate, was clearly explained and was absolutely debunked.
You're spinning your wheels, because haven't you heard?
OBAMA WON !! WE THE PEOPLE WON !!
librophile 3 years ago
he voted 4 times against the infant born alive act.
pwf2412 3 years ago
"No illegal immigrants would have been covered under the S-Chip program."
They don't need to be. They already clog up the emergency rooms of every county public hospital in any urban area.
"Obama does NOT support killing babies, or letting them die if they survive a failed abortion.
This question WAS in deed brought up during the 3rd presidential debate, was clearly explained and was absolutely debunked."
Wrong. Obama was simply lying. The Illinois law did not protect fetuses
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago 2
At least conservative believe that a baby that is born alive is a person, BHO doesn't. he thinks that a baby who survives an abortion should be left to die, because calling in a doctore would put to great a burden on the mother and abortion doctor after an already difficult decission.
So a baby is only a baby if the mom says it is.
pwf2412 3 years ago
A perfect example of a republican troll. Totally brainwashed by FoxNews (FauxNews)false propaganda.
No illegal immigrants would have been covered under the S-Chip program.
Obama does NOT support killing babies, or letting them die if they survive a failed abortion.
This question WAS in deed brought up during the 3rd presidential debate, was clearly explained and was absolutely debunked.
You're spinning your wheels, because haven't you heard?
OBAMA WON !! WE THE PEOPLE WON !!
librophile 3 years ago
a perfect example of a liberal dumbass, reposting the same post 3 minutes apart
pwf2412 3 years ago
Because as a redundant conservative moron, you brought up the same subject again, 3 minutes later.
librophile 3 years ago
What we are doing here is to create one more burden on women, and I cant support that, Obama concluded, and voted no in committee again.
pwf2412 3 years ago
In 2001, Obama voted no in committee, spoke against it on the Senate floor, and voted present on the floor. Obama was the only Senator to speak against it on the floor. His objection was it would give legal protection to a "previable fetus." He said "whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution,....
pwf2412 3 years ago
...what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a a child, a nine-month-old -- child that was delivered to term." On August 19, 2008, the Obama campaign issued a memo in which it singled out "(c) A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law." as "Language Clearly Threatening Roe."
pwf2412 3 years ago
anything you want to say about that now?
pwf2412 3 years ago
by the way, you still haven't answered my two simple questions.
still waiting
pwf2412 3 years ago
chirp...chirp....chirp
no answer huh?
pwf2412 3 years ago
pwf2412--You cannot possibly imagine the extreme pleasure I get in watching you rant incessantly...on and on and on.
But OBAMA WON!! WE THE PEOPLE WON!!
... and there's NOTHING you can do about it!! Ha! Ha!
So keep on ranting my friend. We Obama's mass-supporters all GREATLY enjoy watching you rant in total frustration. It beats banging your head against the wall I guess.
This is so frigging funny!!
librophile 3 years ago
Keep gloting. You'll be laughing out the other side of your face in four years. Obama, the rock star, won based on the emotion of his maniac O-bots. They will soon be gone once they figure out he won't pay their mortages or pay for their gas and can't take all the nations of the world and "make them friends." Libro, you are the textbook case of a mindless O-bot. It's almost worth the next four years of hell to see your disillusionment in your messiah.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
As I said....keep on ranting....and repeating the same lame lamentation over & over & over again.
We're in deed wondering if you'll rant during the next 8 years or will give up before then. The suspense is killing us.
You're like a little boy throwing a fit & a tantrum because he didn't get what he wanted..,making your sad spectacle all worth it for us.
What a great country!!! Obama-Obama-Obama!!!
librophile 3 years ago
so you do support withholding medical care from babies born alive?
and you do support a Civilian security Force?
nice to know
pwf2412 3 years ago
you people ranted against Presiden Bush for eight years, we can complain for the four years it will take to get this loser out of office
pwf2412 3 years ago
It's a shame you libs got your ass handed to you on prop 8. seems like even in California, they don't want gay marriage.
the only way you guys get those things is when the court steps in.
pwf2412 3 years ago
by the way? when is a baby a person?
pwf2412 3 years ago
A baby is a person when the BRAIN of that homo sapiens baby has developed to the point that it's "functionning" normally, "separating" it from all other "mammal" animal species.
The outside appearance or bodily shell is irrelevant. It's the BRAIN that defines it as being human. The body is an organism that only serves to keep that BRAIN alive.
In a far future a human BRAIN implanted into an android "man-made" shell, will render that android...human.
There is no BRAIN in stem cells.
librophile 3 years ago
so a 9 month old baby who survives birth is a person?
just checking
but that is what you believe.
if a baby can survive outside the womb it is a person? or does it just have to have a brain?
pwf2412 3 years ago
so an austic child is NOT a person? is it a person until it is diagnosed with autism then it's not? what about a down syndrom baby, is it a person? a mentaly retarded adult, are they people? what about adults with dementia? are they still people?
if "It's the BRAIN that defines it as being human" and it has to be ""functionning" normally"
by your definition some elderly people would not be people, correct?
pwf2412 3 years ago
You are an idiot. That is the most moronic statement ever made by you or anyone else here. Ask any mother if her newborn is a person or not. It's brain is merely functioning on an instictual level at that point, but it is indeed a person. I repeat: You are an idiot. It's going to be funny watching you meltdown as Obama puts his socialist plan in place.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
LMAO!!!!
evidently for libro it's only a great country if you agree with him.
I posted my two questions to his comments... and guess what?
He deleted my post and blocked me from posting again.
seems our little lib friend is afraid of answering a couple simple questions and like most libs he does not like someone disagreeing with him.
so much for free speech.
pwf2412 3 years ago
Us debating has become irrelevant. The race is finally over. We have a WINNER and a LOSER.
When you'll accept this REALITY, you'll stop crying like a little girl and be able to go on with your pathetic existence.
Until then...keep on ranting.
We're all watching and smiling.
librophile 3 years ago
we aren't debating anything, I am asking you some simple questions and YOU are avoiding answering them because you are embarased with your answers.
I didn't ask you about stem cells. You brought up stem cells out of left field.
I asked a simple straight forward question. when does a baby become a person? to make it more clear, when does said baby have rights?
simple question, tell me what you believe.
pwf2412 3 years ago
at birth?
at birth IF the baby is healthy?
an hour after birth to make sure the baby is healthy first?
after the first day?
after birth If there are no mental problems?
at a week?
a month?
In your opinion, when does a baby become a person with the rights granted them under the constitution of the United States of America
pwf2412 3 years ago
pwf2412--It would be futile to debate with you. You evidence your own extreme lack of logic by writing:
...You are "avoiding" answering my questions because you are "embarassed" with your answers...
TO AVOID ANSWERING ... signifies that "there's "NO" answer" ... therefore my NON-EXISTANT answer(s) cannot possibly embarass me.
I'm sorry but I'm well beyond high school level debates. Seek your own kind.
librophile 3 years ago
They are yes or no questions, there is an answer, you just REFUSE to let people know what your answer is.
to say there is NO answer is a lie. I still maintain that you won't answer because you are embarased by your own beliefs.
If you weren't embarased you would have no problem answering yes or no
pwf2412 3 years ago
You are lying. This is a simple question that does not require you to think or draw any conclusions since you appear to be incapable. He was YOUR candidate. Do you agree with his plans or not? To refuse to answer further proves that you are a mind-numb O-bot. Stop embarrassing yourself.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
The funny thing is I'm not ranting. your guy won, he gets to be president, yeah... big deal, so what?
Guess what I didn't vote for Bill Clinton and yet I somehow managed to survive 8 years under him, I don't see a big problem here.
Did I like President Bush, Mostly, certainly better than Gore or Kerry, did I agree with him on most things, not economicly most of the time, and yet I survived him too.
just answer an honest question
pwf2412 3 years ago
pwf2412--The fact that you twice voted for Bush....a man deemed to be the worst president in US history....again accentuates your extreme lack of analytical logic.
librophile 3 years ago
so you still won't answer two simple questions. sad
BHO supports both positions, I just wonder if you do also.
pwf2412 3 years ago
Deem by whom, a bunch of liberals? Jimmy Carter wrecked the economy with double-digit inflation and unemployment. He made the country look absolutely impotent in the face of Islamic aggression. Your opinions about Bush are worth about as much as a three-dollar-bill. You continue to rant and gloat. You only voted for Obama because he wasn't a Republican. Your refusal to answer Pwf's questions about partial birth abortions and Obama's Gestapo prove it.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
You spent the last eight years ranting about Bush as "illegitimate" because Algore couldn't manufacture enough votes through the court system to win Florida. I think we have the right to criticise the way Obama went back on his world to limit his campaign war chest and bought the election. He won my state by flooding the same lies on TV and radio day after day. Some people will believe anything. You're proof of that. Four and out. The bloom will soon fall.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Obama did the SMART thing, I don't blame him.
Three (3) things happened during this compaign.
(1)- People watched FoxNews than switched to MSNBC & CNN to listen to FoxNews lies being systematically exposed & debunked.
(2)- The internet videos allowed the voters to go back in time & see McCain & Palin spew their lies & then contradict themselves.
(3)- The internet permitted the voters access to the Records in Congress & see how McCain truly voted, exposing McCain as a Fraud & Liar.
librophile 3 years ago
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Barack Hussein Obama
July 2nd 2008
Colorado Springs CO
Do you agree with this statement?
Yes or NO?
pwf2412 3 years ago
There you go with the "We the People" stuff again. You do realize that Obama just barely won the popular vote. He won the electoral vote in my state by only one percentage point. 50-49%. Obama doesn't like the Constitution. It is too limiting in what the government can do to you, (read wealth redistribution). He said so himself. Don't you even know what your candidate said? No? That's sad, another mind-numb O-bot.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
The electoral votes negate your argument. Obama does have a mandate. The Democrats majority increase in Congress substantiates that fact.
WE THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.
Sorry Rep, but you need to take a back seat on that one and witness positive changes happening, starting this coming January.
So stop your crying and come ride the wave of changes with us...WE THE PEOPLE.
librophile 3 years ago
Wrong again,
Electoral votes are all or nothing, so even if a candidate wins by 2 votes he gets all of the electoral votes, so a 49 50 split in popular vote would lead to a full winn in electoral votes, dumbass.
there is no mandate in electoral votes, the mandate comes from the popular vote. and BHO did NOT win in a landslide, which he should have.
pwf2412 3 years ago
The ecomomy sucked, the press was on his side from day one, and the incumbant party had crappy approval ratings.
BHO should have won this thing running away, the fact that he didn't shows just how little of a mandate BHO really had.
and so much for change in his government, he is going to have Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno in his cabinet, some change.....
pwf2412 3 years ago
Complaints, complaints, complaints!!
What is it with you reps?? Cry babies the whole bunch of you. I bet when you lost at a ballgame at school, you ran to the arms of your mommy, crying. Total whimps.
I look forward to 8 years of your crying and whimpering. You have no one to blame but your corrupt & incompetent republican party.
Boo-hoo-hoo!! Boo-hoo-hoo!!
We the People have spoken. C'est la vie.
No need for me to further this useless exchange. I'm out of here. Ciao loser!!
librophile 3 years ago
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that weve set. Weve gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Barack Hussein Obama
July 2nd 2008
Colorado Springs CO
Do you agree with this statement?
Yes or NO?
this is a direct quote from BHO, do you agree with this statement?
pwf2412 3 years ago
4 and out, lib.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
If you want to see just how ignorant the typical Obama voters were about their candidate, I dare you to go here. I knew every one of these but these so-called "intelligent" Obama voters were completely oblivious. Your side's complete lack of knowledge about the guy you're so proud to have elected is frightening.
watch?v=53C2-b8BOLs
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
"8 years of your crying and whimpering" -- you mean unlike the 8 years of total hatred and insults towards Bush? Sounds like turnabout is fair play!
lefte3 3 years ago
Amen
pwf2412 3 years ago
365 electoral votes for Obama = WOW!!!
162 electoral votes for McBush/McSame/McCain
THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR A LANDSLIDE FOR ME!!!
You voted for McCain ... You loose. Ha! Ha!
librophile 3 years ago
do you understand how the electoral college works? do you?
your guy won the popular vote, That's the people who actually vote, by 5% not a landslide. The electoral college does not play into a landslide.
get it right
pwf2412 3 years ago
Librophile doesn't understand anything that doesn't come from the propoganda machine at PMSNBC. He actually suggested that people switched from Fox News to MSNBC to get the "real facts". PMSNBC has about 8 viewers. They fired two of thier anchors for being too partisan. They must have been giving BHO BJ's or something to have been deemed too partisan for MSNBC.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
We loose? You are as dumb as Barry...by the way there's 50 states, a kid with asthma needs an inhaler, 12 people were killed in that Kansas town, there's qualified speech therapists for that annoying stutter, yes, it very much still is a Christian country, no I've never confused my Christian faith for muslim faith, my pastor and wife are not been militant separatists, I don't think the flag is a symbol of hate, the servicemen and women's lives were not wasted and it's spelled L-O-S-E, loser!
zemogfamily 3 years ago 2
You wrote "you are as dumb as Barry" ... so if Barack is extremely smart, which he is, that makes me also a pretty sharp guy as well. So ... ranting-redneck-republican moron ... I'll take it as a compliment.
Now do the rest of the country a favor and go hang yourself.
librophile 3 years ago
if you are so sharp, you shouldn't have any trouble answering this question.
We can not continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've gotta have a civilian national security force, thats just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
Barack Hussein Obama
July 2nd 2008
Colorado Springs CO
Do you agree with this statement?
Yes or NO?
pwf2412 3 years ago
What do you mean?
librophile 3 years ago
Look at the popular vote, moron. Obama only won the popular vote by a few percentage points. That's where you decide if a candiate has a mandate or not. I see the changes coming: Higher taxes for all, a Gestapo, er civilian security force, an end to secret ballots in unionization elections, and a return to the unfairness doctrine. These are the changes Obama had planned. Pity PMSNBC never reported them.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Why can't a republican become a police officer?
Because to become a police officer, one needs to know how to "READ" to a perpetrator, his Miranda rights ... and "WRITE" a ticket to a traffic infraction violator.
librophile 3 years ago
My preschooler could come up with a better come back than that. You are such an idiot, it stopped being funny. You are a lonely, pitiable individual. While I sit here in my comfortable suburban home, you sit in your mother's basment shoving french fries into your zit-covered face. No wonder you don't show your own face on you profile page.
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librophile 3 years ago
Amazing that Republicans have had the Presidency for 20 of 28 years, yet everything is the Democrats fault. If the Republicans in power stuck to their parties original ideals I would agree with you, but unfortunately they just start wars and prohibit life saving scientific medical research.
smarhaus 3 years ago
I agree that the republican should have stuck to their core, but they moved to the left and look what happened.
and the Republicans may have held the presidency for 20 of 28 years, but look how long the dems held congress.
the only good thing about this next two years is that everything will be the Dems fault, you won't be able to blame the republicans for anything, you hold all power, so good or bad it's all on you
pwf2412 3 years ago
I agree that the republican should have stuck to their core, but they moved to the left and look what happened.
and the Republicans may have held the presidency for 20 of 28 years, but look how long the dems held congress.
the only good thing about this next two years is that everything will be the Dems fault, you won't be able to blame the republicans for anything, you hold all power, so good or bad it's all on you
pwf2412 3 years ago
Your statement on his stance and Illinois' law on failed abortions is incorrect. You may not harm any baby that is alive outside of the mother.
On your second post- I am not democrat. So it's not "all on me". I vote Libertarian.
I don't agree with the dem's economic policy, and I don't want government healthcare. I don't want to bail out all the companies, and I despise welfare. I'm far from democrat.
smarhaus 3 years ago
he voted 4 times against the infant born alive act.
he said that having a doctor for the baby inflicted a burden on the mother and the doctor for an otherwise difficult decission.
babies were left to die, and BHO voted to let it happen.
please check you facts again
pwf2412 3 years ago
you call your seld a libertarian, and yet here you are trashing republicans and taking up for democrats,
hmmmmm, seeing as how the libertarian view is more closely aligned with republicans than dems, I find it hard to believe your statement, especially after your defence of BHO on the infant born alive act
pwf2412 3 years ago
An impartial third party checked on Obama's claim that Right to Life was lying about the Illinois laws on record. It was determined that they were telling the truth and Obama was "incorrect". The law did not protect the lives of babies born as a result of botched "partial birth abortions", a vulgar and barbaric practice itself.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
librophile 3 years ago
and in the last Two years the economy fell apart and the congress was controll totaly by the dems
pwf2412 3 years ago
pwf2412--A freudian slip as everyone knows, reveals what you truly mean or who you really are.
We noticed that you wrote: "the congress was controll..." instead of "controlled."
Because ... a "troll" is absolutely what you are.
By the way, your "totaly" is missing an "L" evidencing also your lack of intellect & education and rendering your posts irrelevant.
librophile 3 years ago
nice just like a lib, go for the personal insult right out of the gate.
You don't have a responce to the substance of the post so you attack me and my spelling and typing.
Sad.
as I have pointed out numerous times, my typing sucks and my spelling is almost as bad, but if you feel the need to correct every mistake, be my guset. but you're going to be very busy
pwf2412 3 years ago
I have a qusetion for you that your lib friends don't seem toi be able to answer, maybe you will have the balls to do so...
Do you think that a Civillian Securiy Force, as large and as well funded as the United States Military is a good idea?
yes or no?
pwf2412 3 years ago
4 and out for Obama, assuming his "Civilian Security Force" hasn't installed him as dictator by then.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
What do Barrack and Osama bin Laden have in common? The both know people who attacked the Pentagon.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
u suc NewsBusted
nbkthegame 3 years ago
Can neocons consciously make that statement? Knowing Prescott(Grandpa) Bush worked for the Nazis.
Family friend John Hinkley tried to kill Reagan.
Family friend Osama bin Laden pulls off 9/11.
I didnt hear any neocons harping about connections while W. drove the country into the ground.
Matryx 3 years ago
Take off your aluminum foil hat. Oh and it was the democrats and their bright idea to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford to pay them back, and their bright idea to not let us drill for our own oil that got us into this current mess.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
jtkirkfan2002: "No one, including Bush EVER claimed that Iraq had any connection to 9/11. Try to find where anyone said that. You can't."
"Along with the contention that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction, President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top administration officials have often asserted that there were extensive ties between Hussein's government and Osama bin Laden's terrorist network; earlier this year, Cheney said evidence of a link was "overwhelming."
Matryx 3 years ago
Hussein and Hitler are connected" now will you let it go !
libertarian4u 3 years ago
Again, where did Cheney say that?
I could say that " Obama says that white people are stupid" but it doesn't mean a damn thing if I can't prove it.
so far you haven't done anything but pass on rumor
pwf2412 3 years ago
You still havent addressed the waterboarding of the family and would it be torture if it happened to them?
Matryx 3 years ago
are they terrorists? is that what you are implying? that my family are terrorists?
if my son was a terrorist and waterboarding was used on him to prevent innocent people from dying, then so be it. because at the end of it all, he is still alive, but the people he may have been planning to kill would not have been.
GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. I have NEVER condoned the use of these practices AGAINST civillians, shopw me anywhere I did.
this entire conversation has been about using these..
pwf2412 3 years ago 2
practices against terrorists in order to extract information concerning future attacks, but somehow in your twisted little mind to seem to equate terrorists with innocent people, that is why you keep asking if I would use them on my family.
I already said that it's use is for terrorists, and they have been the only people it has been used against, but you want to muddy the water and pretend everyone is the same
terrorist=bad=waterboarding
civillian=good=no waterboarding
pwf2412 3 years ago
I'd give it up with Matryx. He is apparently incapable of undstanding the difference between using advanced interrogation on someone who is a known terrorist and has information that will save lives, and just using it on someone off the street. To him they are the same thing. Now you know where the term "bleeding heart liberal" comes from. They coddle evil and place it on equal footing with innocent people
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
"You still havent addressed the waterboarding of the family and would it be torture if it happened to them?"
Are you high or jsut stupid? Both of us have answered that question more than once. For the last time: Waterboarding is not torture. No, I would not subject my family to such an act for no good reason. It they were terror suspects, I would say use any means necessary to extricate information that would save lives. Get that through your head.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I second that statement
pwf2412 3 years ago
It either IS or it ISNT.
I am not talking about the WHY its being done.
Going to the beach is not torture for some. Spending a night in a comfy bed is not torture. Going to a football game isnt torture.
You wouldnt worry about subjecting your family to that for no reason. If waterboarding isnt torture, then that shouldnt bother you. Your family should be fine. And again, you didnt remove the terrorist from the act of waterboarding. Follow along here.
Matryx 3 years ago
FOCUS! I have said repeatedly that it most definitely is NOT torture. It is unpleasant, but it is not torture. It most definitely scares the hell out of the subject. I would not subject anyone to it, family or not, for no good reason, just like I would never point a gun at another human being for no good reason. Different behavior is proper for different situations. How much more clearer do I need to make it or are you just that stupid?
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
torture /ˈtɔrtʃər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [tawr-cher] Show IPA Pronunciation
noun, verb, -tured, -tur⋅ing.
noun
1. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
2. a method of inflicting such pain.
3. Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone.
4. extreme anguish of body or mind; agony.
5. a cause of severe pain or anguish.
That is THE definition, not yours.
Matryx 3 years ago
By your definition, anytime Obama speaks is torture. In fact anytime any liberal opens his or her mouth it's torture because the nonsene and lies that spew forth most definitely cause me mental anguish. Fact is you had to read down to the fourth selection to find a description that remotely fits. Waterboarding is not torture as most people would see it. The rack, iron maiden, those are tortures. Scaring someone is not. Nice try.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
"jtkirkfan2002 has replied to your comment on NewsBusted 11/11/08: Dems Still Celebrating:
No one, including President Bush EVER claimed that Iraq had any connection to 9/11. Try to find where anyone said that. You can't."
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, June 17, 2004; Page A01
The Sept. 11 commission reported yesterday that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda, challenging one of the Bush administration's main justifications for the war in Iraq."
Matryx 3 years ago
Show me where Bush said it. not where someone SAID Bush said it.
Bush was accused of doing and saying a lot of things that he never said.
Don't quote where someone said Bush said it, Show the actual Bush quote.
Kind of like MSNBC reporting about palin not knowing that Africa wasn't just a country, and now they have to retract the story because it was a fake made up by libs and reported hook line and sinker by the press
pwf2412 3 years ago
pwf2412--NICE TRY JERK...BUT NO CIGAR!!
Sarah Palin's quote about not knowing that Africa is a continent, started within the McCain campaign staff.
One of McCain's own attorney explained later how the rumor got started & was retracted. Obama campaign staff nor the Democrats had anything to do with it.
Watch MSNBC Keith Olberman/Rachel Maddow instead of FoxNews IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH.
Republicans/FoxNews are expert liars as we all know & saw during the entire McCain/Palin campaign.
librophile 3 years ago
Wrong AGAIN dumbass!!!
here is the story FROM MSNBC.
David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a Fox News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.
Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist;
pwf2412 3 years ago
each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish,the New York Times reported Wednesday.
The Eisenstadt claim had mistakenly been delivered to Shuster by a producer and was used in a political discussion Monday afternoon, MSNBC said.
"The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, network spokesman. "We recognized the error almost immediately and ran a correction on air within minutes."
pwf2412 3 years ago
LOL, Why don't YOU try watching something other than MSNBC, you might actually get the truth every now and then.
I will wait for you to tell me how sorry you are for getting your facts wrong and calling me a jerk.
turns out your are the jerk
pwf2412 3 years ago
MSNBC, the O-bot News Network.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
THe quote was from the Washington Post. They used quotation marks around "overwhelming". There are youtube posts of Cheney trying to link, or tie Iraq to 9/11. Do you know what it means to link or tie someone to something? Like Faux News tried to tie President Elect Obama to terrorists. ("A Terrorist fist bump?") if you are familiar with law and politics, somethings you come out and say, other things you say with the caveat that you can get out of any personal responsibility.
Matryx 3 years ago
you mean like when BHO had a fundraiser in the home of a domestic terrorist, who as reciently as last year said that the weather underground DIDN'T do enough
is that the kind of connection you are talking about?
pwf2412 3 years ago
Obama IS tied to a terrorist. His name is William Ayres and he helped form the Weather Underground in the '60's. He is non-repentent about setting bombs in the '60's and says, "I wish we did more." He and Obama served on committees together and as PWF points out, Ayres hosted a campaign launch in his home for Obama's Illinois Senate campaign. There is no incinuation. HE IS connected to a known terrorist.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Prescott Bush IS tied to the Nazis.
The Bush family IS tied to the bin Ladens.
The Bush family IS tied to the Hinckley family.
Washington, Dec. 17, 2003 - In 1981, as Scott Hinckley prepared to have dinner at Neil Bush's (brother of the current president), Hinckley's brother, John Hinckley, prepared to shoot President Reagan, which could have made Bush's father president."
Now if Bush were a democrat, you would be all over it. Since hes a republican, in neocon fashion, you will ignore it.
Matryx 3 years ago
Sorry, I don't debate with people who wear little aluminum foil hats. John Hinckly was a nut job who tried to assasinate the president to impress Jodi Foster.
Obama is friends with Ayres. He went to Chicago to seek out people like him and Jeremiah Wright. Ayres is not someone's crazy brother. He is someone Obama sought out and received counsel from.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Your insult is unwarranted and irrelevant. Then again, coming from a fan of newsbusted, I wouldnt expect something clever or relevant.
Hinckley was a nut job AND friend of the Bushs. If you are going to crucify someone for associates, then accept the Bush family has friends and associates that have done FAR worse. The Nazis, who Prescott worked for killed MILLIONS.
Keep trying though.
Matryx 3 years ago
You don't get it, do you? Bush wasn't influenced by John Hinckley. Obama's past, his writings, his associations and what he says when he thinks no one is listening, all point to the idea that he is as radical or even more so than Ayres. Most of you people were so excited to be "part of history" and elect a black president that you didn't stop to research what he really stood for.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Most of us people huh? Simple labeling. And you havent addressed the bin Laden family or the Nazis, nor will I expect you to.
Are you a minority? Have you been a minority? (Meaning you werent apart of the majority, not some genetic makeover, so dont try to get Trekkie on me.)
I have been. Wright? Unless you have been a minority or are familiar with struggles of black folks and have been a part of it, then you wouldnt understand what hes saying or where hes coming from.
Matryx 3 years ago
I understand enough that what Wright says is hateful and bitter and has no place coming out of the mouth of a man of God. He is an America-hating black separatist. His kind is why so many blacks live in poverty in the most prosperous nation on Earth. They don't believe they can do any better while he builds million dollar homes. God will see he answers for his sins.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I figure if the drive-by media couldn't find anything with the Nazi connection or the bin Laden connection, then there is nothing there to find. They would milk it if they could, even if they had to make up the documents to back up their allegations.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I did address them. All of your "associations" are two and three people removed. I also don't have any patience with "unless you're like me you wouldn't understand." I was born on the wrong side of the tracks and had to work for everything I've got. I grew up in a neighborhood where I was the minority. Oh, and the "you people" comment had nothing to do with race. It applies to all Obama voters. Most of the people that I know who wanted to be "part of history" were also white.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago 2
George H. W. Bush was a war hero in WWII. All of your "associations" are two and three people removed. Obama is friends with Bill Ayres, a known terrorist. He is friends with Jeremiah Wright, a racist, white-hating, America-hating black separatist. Obama also sought out those relationships.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Show where Bush ever said that he believed there to be a connection between Iraq and 9/11, not what other people said he said, (heresay).
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I posted New York Times and Washington post articles and said there are videos on youtube that state the same thing, yet you ignore it. jtkirkfan2002: "No one, including President Bush EVER claimed that Iraq had any connection to 9/11. Try to find where anyone said that. You can't."
You said, "no one" and "EVER". Those are your words. Bushs own VP tried to make the tie in a video I mentioned earlier. Therefore, SOMEONE made the claim disproving your argument. Next topic.....
Matryx 3 years ago
Rosie is a hack
philblunt420 3 years ago
His wise cracking donkey! That is an outrage! Outrageously funny!
MacGirvan 3 years ago
Way to go Barney!
JOBRAIL1 3 years ago
Neocons would be fine with McCain winning, the genocide of muslims, wars with Iran, North Korea, Russia, essentially world domination before looking inward to solve our own problems. Personal accountability isnt what Neocons are about. History, and their actions have proven it.
By the way, neocons find these posts funny. I have only watched 2 of the Newsbusted clips. I appreciate all forms of comedy and they were both sad at best.
Matryx 3 years ago
Lib's would be fine with the death's of thousands of innocent people at the hands of terrorists since "We deserve it" for trying to promote freedom and democracy around the world. They'll be fine with Obama raising taxes, suppressing the First Amendment and creating his Gestapo "civilian security force" until it affects them. By then it will be too late. And if Lib's are so into "personal accountibility", then why are you so into rewarding sloth and non-productive people?
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
There is a difference between stopping attacks against us and genocide of a group of people so we can "feel safe".
How many innocent people do you think died in Iraq? How many people do you think died because Bush didnt act on intelligence given to him? How many innocent people die due to work place accidents so a company can save some money? Neocons arent about protecting lives, get over yourself.
Matryx 3 years ago
How many people think you are an idiot? Probably to many to count.
amboy362 3 years ago
amboy362--You got my vote. Count me in!!
I think jtkirkfan is a total idiot!! He ain't no smarter than a 5th grader. lol
librophile 3 years ago
Didn't I tell you to be quiet so the adults could talk?
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Where did this genocide nonsense come from? What race are we trying to erradicate? You lib's just can't stick to the subject. However watching you meltdown is funny. Clinton ignored several opportunities to get Bin Laden. Why doesn't he share in your little blame game?
I happen to be on my company's safety committee. The USA is one of the safest places on Earth to work. Try not to meltdown so much and stay on topic.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
The genocide talk is from the neocon plan to eliminate the muslim extremists. No neocon knows whos who. Since you dont know whos who, but we wont be safe until they are eliminated, where do you stop? Many neocons I have talked to says eliminate them all.
On the bin Laden stand point, passing on the opportunity goes back to Bush Sr. as well. so there are 3 presidents to blame. 2 happen to be family friends. One happened to be in office when it happened.
Matryx 3 years ago
What "plot" are you talking about? While some ignorant racists may have talked about a plot to eliminate Muslims, there is no government plan to eliminate the Muslim society. Wait, maybe there is. Let's ask Sen. Robert Byrd-D. He used to be in the KKK.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
Lets ask State representative David Duke-R, former grand wizard of the KKK.
As I have had this conversation with many neocons, terrorism is instilling terror in other people. Terror is a state of being. Phobias are terrifying for people. What type of bullets do you recommend to kill terror? Teflon coated? Hollow point?
As far as muslims go, there are many neocons who dont know muslims from muslims extremists. where do you stop when you start eliminating them? do you know where to stop?
Matryx 3 years ago
I have asked you once before to define "neocon" ("neo" meaning "new"). I am not one of the "new conservatives". Which "neocons" don't know Muslims from Muslim extremists? Name one that I might have heard of. You're not talking about me. Some of our neighbors are Muslims. Their oldest and my oldest are best friends. Their younger kids and my younger kids play together. Just like a typical liberal, you want to put everyone in a neat little box with a label.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
If I threw out names of neocons I debated with, then it would assume you all know each other and putting you all "in a neat little box with a label." Contradict much?
Your arguments lack logic and direction. You are too simple minded to carry on a serious debate.
Matryx 3 years ago
I'm speaking of anyone that I might have heard of. Someone with a rudimentary intellect would have understood that. Sorry for overestimating you. You still haven't defined "neocon". You use it so flipantly, but don't understand its meaning.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I figured you already understood what the term neocon meant, so defining it would insult your intelligence which is why I separated them from Republicans. I wouldnt have if they werent the NEW Conservatives. I will leave you with that. You are too simple minded and unworthy of a legitimate debate.
Oh, and its not about YOUR definition or YOUR neighbors or tracking down people YOU heard of. Its not about YOU. There are over 6 billion others here.
But YOU have a good weekend anyway.
Matryx 3 years ago
I do understand. I was waiting for you to define the word since you've used it incorrectly so many times. There is a difference between Republicans, conservatives and neoconservatives. We conservatives are furhter to the right. We don't believe in big deficits, or government handouts and bailouts. Neocons are the "centrists". You've been getting it wrong. When I said "I", I meant anyone. Sorry that you were too simple to understand that.
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I also figured a US Senator (and a Democrat) who was in the Ku Klux Klan, would know if anyone did of a plot to eliminate another race or culture. David Duke is a nobody. Most people under the age of 30 wouldn't even recognize the name. The irony is that he was demonized, (rightly so) when he tried to run for national office. Byrd holds a national office, is a Dem, and a former Klan member himself. Where is the outrage from the left over that?
jtkirkfan2002 3 years ago
I noticed how you were quick to pull in a democrat in the KKK for no reason. The republicans had their KKK grand wizard too.
How many lefties have you talked to? If you have, then you would know that yes, lefties have and do have issues with Byrds history.
Whats worse is Bush has been the worst president in history plunging our country in record deficit and yet he wasnt impeached. Again, neocon thinking of worrying about other people when you have bigger demons to deal with.
Matryx 3 years ago