2010 Budo Gala in Swiss(Haidong Gumdo)

[enushisama]

朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the choson Dynasty (The True Record of the Korean Dynasty)

【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備

The people are not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...

【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”

The king said “There is no swordman in our country at all”...

【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳

Any sword art has not been succeeded from ancient time in our country...

[enushisama]

武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea

【 It is the official document at Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century 】

國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，

Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting.

[arashipower]

@enushisama make a video with your skills and show that it is better than the others ... Beyond that it's just a loudmouth ...

[wolfpack13000]

The court where 671 times false evidence of Japan overflows as for the false evidence of Korea.

It is analysis of Supreme Public Prosecutors Office that domestic false evidence reaches 671 times "of" Japan.

朝鮮日報　朴世鎔　記者

japanese.chosun.com

※ A Korean does not have resistance to tell a lie.

Ethnicity called (EM　bryonic stem cell forgery case).

Please be careful not to be deceived, everybody.

[wolfpack13000]

The Korean martial arts and fencing are monkey business.

Because there is not the culture that there was a samurai in the Korean history.

The Korean uses a castle of Japan and the sculpture including the Asura by an image strategy in imitation of the style of the Japanese samurai in HP.

I understand it if I examine it, but, in the Korean Peninsula, culture and the castle of the samurai do not have the trace.

[enushisama]

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[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

1.

Kumdo/Gumdo is the Korean pronunciation of Kendo and it was introduced into the Korean Peninsula from Japan during the period of the Japanese protectorate and annexation (1895-1945). Before that martial arts didn't exist in Korea. So it's never a traditional Korean martial art from ancient times.

It's true that Koreans began learning sword skills from Chinese and they called it 本國劍/本国剣 in the 18th century, but it didn't catch on.

/watch?v=xcc3_iBmMyM

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

2.

The first time Koreans used the word "HaedongKumdo/海東剣道" was in about 1982. It's not so long ago. In short, it's a fraud that they claim HaedongKumdo is a Korean traditional martial art.

Incidentally, the parties have already pleaded guilty to the HaedongKumdo fraud in a Korean court.

해동검도재판기록 (HaedongKumdo trial record)

blog(.)daum(.)net/_blog/BlogTy­peView(.)do?blogid=06zf6&artic­leno=9050199&admin=#ajax_histo­ry_home

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

3.

What you are doing now is a creation based on Japanese Kendo. But because the new martial art required Koreans to make a difference from Kendo, they adopted flashy action stunts like jumping or spinning.

Seeing the unfamiliar action, unsuspecting Westerners fell for the con easily. It's totally absurd that you are thankful for such a fake traditional stuff.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

4.

First, you must research the records of HaedongKumdo before 1970s.

How about videos? Is there a film until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?

How about pictures? Is there a picture until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?

How about historical records? Since the 17th century many Westerners stayed in the Korean Peninsula. They wrote about Korean archery but any swordplay or unarmed martial art doesn't appear in those records. Don't you find this strange?

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

5.

From now, it is not too late. All you guys must get your head out of the clouds.

[arashipower]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie

you are not Japanese, stop whining ...

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@arashipower

は？　私は日本人だけど？　何人だと思ったの？

[arashipower]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie google translator. too easy... im not stupid... "nihon jin"

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@arashipower

ちょ、私は何代遡っても日本人なんだがw 日本の歌だって歌えちゃうよ。さよならぼくたーちーのてれーびー­きょくぅー にほんじんのためのてれーびーきょくぅー♪ ってね。

で、私いったい何人にされちゃったの？ What do you think my nationality is?

[arashipower]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie Hedon kendou ni amari juuyou-sei o ataeru. To Nippon no bunka o sokushin suru. Kankoku jin o wasureru...

Japan has neglected for 50 years, all war crimes against Koreans. they confiscated and banned all Korean culture, forcing them to convert in Japanese ...

It is ironic that the Japanese saying "Koreans want to be Japanese" ... For me it is hypocrisy ...

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@arashipower "Hedon kendou ni amari juuyou-sei o ataeru. To Nippon no bunka o sokushin suru. Kankoku jin o wasureru..."

I don't know what you mean.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

"all war crimes against Koreans"

Japan and Korea didn't have a war.

"they confiscated and banned all Korean culture"

Baloney. What is the Korean culture that Japan banned? Koreans always say Japan banned Korean culture, but no one can ban anything that isn't there. What the Japan's government banned were Korean barbaric customs such as tortures or their caste system.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

Watch @0:37, @0:43, @1:16, and @1:30, @1:58. That's before the Japanese annexation.

/watch?v=wq3PpeMbfrY

Next, watch this film showing Korea during the Japanese annexation period in 1931, which was taken by a certain American.

/watch?v=j5GegF6XcgE

@2:19 They are pleasantly dancing in their ethnic dresses. The Japan's government never banned Korean culture if it was not barbaric. You can see Korean men in their ethnic clothes all through the film.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

"Japanese saying "Koreans want to be Japanese""

That's a fact. Watch this.

/watch?v=B4eVQ5zukO8#t=4m27s

/watch?v=uxe-qMPbxQ4

Koreans' martial arts are just plagiarism from Japan.

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie You must have a very sad and depressive life if you have nothing better to do than argue with people on Youtube that their martial art is not as good as yours. Perhaps you could go do some training in your own martial art instead.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1

I have watched your videos.

/watch?v=T1u2A_20HaQ

/watch?v=jshpu_Gq6U8

/watch?v=Z1g6jcixb7w

Are these comedy shows?

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie They are choreographed routines designed to entertain, nothing more. Where can I find videos of your training, and not just videos of you rubbishing other's culture?

I'm not Korean by the way, nor do I expect that everything Korea claims about their martial arts to be true, just that others pay some respect to each others training rather than the art they choose. It seems to me that many Japanese seem have forgotten what respect actually is.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1

I don't get what you mean. Arashipower insulted me with wrong knowledge, so I just refuted it. You broke in there and insulted me on behalf of Arashipower, so I opened your channel and found the strange dance aka Haidong Gumdo in your videos. If you don't want to be criticized, then you just shouldn't have insulted others on the net in the first place.

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie What I mean is you seem to go to very extreme lengths to try and rubbish others for their passion in a martial art, when you appear to have no skill to promote of your own. Instead of belittling others because of their chosen martial art, why not respect the training and effort they put in to developing their skills. Historical accuracy is no longer a concern for martial art - there are no samurai or ninja running around that we need to defend ourselves against.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1 "What I mean is you seem to go to very extreme lengths to try and rubbish others for their passion in a martial art"

Huh? All the Japanese in this thread are bringing "Korean martial arts fabrication" into question. Don't replace a problem with something else.

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie Clearly nothing I say will have any affect on you here. I apologise if this felt like me attacking you in particular, my comments are aimed at everyone posting anti-HDGD propaganda. You must understand we don't train because gumdo is a 5,000 year old art handed down from god himself, or because it's a traditional Korean art, only because it's enjoyable, and it's taught nearby, where no Japanese sword arts are.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1

Japanese don't care whether Haidong Gumdo is enjoyable or not for you. The fact remains that Haidong Gumdo is fraud and Koreans stole Japanese culture. This is the issue.

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie I'm sure that Korea probably resents the many years of Japanese occupation as well... Japan hardly has a faultless history.

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie That is not a good argument, since Aboriginies had no external contact to any other cultures until England slaves settled here, so it would be obviously ridiculous from the start. I'm not trying to be 'sneaky', just pointing out that Japan is hardly without flaw in their long history as much as Korea is not without flaw. I note that China has several katana-like blades, did they steal Japanese culture as well?

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1

So are you saying Australia has no flaw in your history?

"Aboriginies had no external contact to any other cultures until England slaves settled here"

It's all the worse. You white guys overran the continent and used to do "aboriginie hunting".

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

Pure Tasmanian aboriginies became extinct in 1876 because of that. Australia has a bigger flaw than Japan or Korea. You have no right to blame other countries' history, and historical flaw of every country has nothing to do with the "culture theft" by Koreans.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

"I note that China has several katana-like blades, did they steal Japanese culture as well?"

Japanese and Chinese have a high degree of respect for each other's traditional culture. I will say this again, don't replace a problem with something else. You are very sneaky.

[XoNMan1]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie You call me sneaky whilst inferring I'm somehow responsible for the actions of English convicts over 100 years ago? And you suggest Australian history is worse than Japans? Perhaps you might want to read into Japans treatment of POWs during WWII.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1

Japan was not especially worse than other parties and didn't do genocide against Tasmanian Aborigines like your ancestors. You brought up unrelated historical issues but will never face the "culture theft" by Koreans. For what purpose did you come here?

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@XoNMan1

I can't understand why you arrived at such conclusion. You willingly brought up non-HaidongGumdo-related issues and detonated yourself. it's not me who raised unrelated topics at the start. I just can't understand why you arrived at such conclusion.

[sakura0jp0aikidodesu]

cool!but funny.

why Japanese are confused to Korean Gumdo and Kumdo....

pls image that if Japanese swing around rapier that French fencing sword like cheerleading with dressing English kelt,and then the playing would be popular and spread in many country....

suddenly the Japanese make public like that "fencing is Japanese traditional martial art,and Kelt is Japanese wear originally!!"

Korean fabricate like that.