@saagua1953 unfortunately the great Furtwangler's recordings are all old "needle on wax" mono and I'm sure don't do justice to his and the ochestra's talent. same with many early Wagner singers like Vickers, Windgassen and Flagstad.
That eing siad, I have the CD set of Klemperer's 1968 "Der Fliegende Hollander" with Thoe Adman and Anja Silja and it's 2nd only to Levine with Morris and Voigt in 1997
Oh my God, thats amazing!! Klemperer is one of the very few conductors wha has the spirit, the feeling and - of course - the balls for this music. William
Most of the work is J W Waterhouse, some other artists as well, such as Rosetti, but predominantly Waterhouse. Not really keen myself on the particular choices, as they refer to specific legends and tales not Lohengrin related, but then, no reason to dispute the particular imagery inclinations of the poster. I had just wanted to hear Klemperer doing Lohengrin myself.
Ich glaube, wenn ich eines Tages sterbe und dazu dieses wunderschöne Vorspiel hören könnte, dann würde mein Leben ein glückliches und würdiges Ende erfahren.
Treibt mir zusammen mit dem Parsifal-Vorspiel jedes Mal die Tränen in die Augen!
All the Jews to the stern, and then later in the stern of my vagina the entire buttocks of a Jewish baby and since then, I will open my body every hole, and at the same time, vomiting, defecation, urination and ejaculation will ask my vagina is dog feces and more
Richard Wagner was born on this day, May 22, 1813, in Leipzig, Germany...Lohengrin premired in 1849...and Franz Liszt conducted the entire score...after the failed Revolutions of 1848, Wagner who was agitating against the Prussian King, Friedrich Wilhelm III, went into exile in Switzerland, where he spent the next 13 years, until 1861...
Like most late nineteenth century music I've heard, Wagner's seems a sad caricature compared to the likes of Beethoven and Mendelssohn, e.g. There's something strained in Wagner. Perhaps he'd intuited what was about to befall his poor Europeans...
@johnhofi It is different. 19th century music has the ability to be truly serious, unlike Beethoven who is often dramatic but also somewhat playful. Wagner's music can really move me to tears. Especially this beautifully sad and endlessly melancholic prelude of Lohengrin has this ability.
And I believe it is more difficult to move people to tears through art than make them laugh, much more difficult. It's not really possible to deny Wagner's genious methinks.
Klemperer's interpretaion of this magical piece is superb beyond measure both in the beauty of the phrasing, the overall structure and the superb playing of the Philharmonia. Rejoice! This was part of a set of Wagner recordings made to celebrate Klemperer's 75th Birthday made in the glorious Kingsway Hall, London. He was at the peak of his relationship with the Philharmonia and this wonderful partnership is reflected in some ravishing playing. Recordings that will never be out of the catalogue.
This whole opera was so so sad. Every sad, longing image I ever had was conjured up in the music, the story, and the characters. The bitterness of loss and love.
Thing I love so much about this music is that it is so descriptive. Everyone in the world has a different visualization in their head. One man could remember the past wife he lost, and another man could remember that special night in Orleans. Personally, I imagine floating in the clouds, and then sitting on a bench in a park with a very special someone.
Many pre-Raphaelite artists... the one of Tristan and Isolde (with the harp!) is by Edmund Blair Leighton, as is the one of the woman knighting the man, and "God Speed," with a lady bestowing a favor; the one of the Holy Grail is by Dante Gabriel Rossetti; "La Belle Dame Sans Merci" (woman leaning from horse) by Frank Dicksee. Waterhouse has several, including "Echo and Narcissus," and "Psyche Entering Cupid's Garden." And that's all I recognized... Wishing you happy discoveries!
La première fois que j'ai vu cette Oeuvre merveilleuse ... il a été dans le palais d'Opéra de Paris, le ténia 19 ans ... et voilà que je rappelle que j'ai pleuré d'une émotion .. je ne l'oublierai jamais.
Un maître Lohengrin ... par qu'il se ressemble à moi, dans tout ... dans tout.
Klemperer absolutely nails this! I always regret listening to the music of Wagner; I am arrested by nostalgia, living in this dead ass twenty first century and all.
Even though they grew to have disagreements, Wagner and Nietzsche are still both sons of the German people and culture. And both were a blessing to Europe!
Ce prélude est d'une extraodinaire et insurpassable beauté. Il est pour moi source d'une émotion qu'aucune autre musique ne provoque. Wagner était vraiment un compositeur génial.
Je reprends totalement pour moi le dernier commentaire de Parsphalle.
De tous le compositeur classique, c'est celui que je trouve le plus extraordinaire! Sa musique, comparée aux autres et , vraiment à un autre niveau...plus près des sphères...et ce prélude est , entre autre, une des plus belle musique qu'il a écrite... Sortie du contexte de Lohengrin, elle évoque pour moi les quelques minutes précédent le plus beau des levers de soleil qui a lieu a 6m35
It's very very good but unfortunately, i listened Furtwängler before x) so...
+ : It's slow, each instrumentals parts are perfectly precise, melodic lines are respected
to compare with Furtwängler, Can we compare? It's so far much better than this for many reasons. It's more pure and there is this unique atmosphere by Furtwängler.
Klemperer was known for his relatively slow tempi which give the music time to breath and flower, exposing its beauty unlike other performances that rush it all.
What magnificent music, and I think Klemperer's version is the best. Shivers down my spine for approximately 45 seconds from about 6.30. Thank you for posting this. (You don't happen to have Klemperer's versions of Wagner's Rienzi Overture and Tannhauser Overture, and his magnificent recording of Mahler's 2nd Symphony, do you? - if so, could you post them please?)
You would like to make it more quickly, because you have not so much time to hear such a long music? You are a barbarian! The whole effect woud be destroyed! But you wolud be a good director in Bayreuth - there are only barbarians like you too!
Les enregistrements laissés par Klemperer des ouvertures D'operas de Wagner sont extraordinaires. De la musique pure, plus besoin du drame la musique se suffit à elle même.
If you think Klemperer conducts slow try Knappertsbusch. When it comes to Wagner I prefer broader tempi to fast ones. I remember Norrington conducting the Prelude to Meistersinger in a terribly fast manner and the piece completely fell apart. Just my opinion.
@primobaritono I do think that Wagner must not be played too fast, in comparison. But I haven't heard Klemperer (who was famed for his broad tempi) conduct much Wagner - and this Prelude is simply sublime! When is it recorded?
The problem here is twofold. Most known interpretations of Klemperer are made after 1955-1971, where he was very old. As he was young many critics said he was conducting way too fast^^. Then, Klemp is all for "structure" of a piece. Thus it is not important if he is "slow" - it is just a side effect of his shaping out every thing contained in the score. I always recommend different recordings, but Klemperer's are often just superb^^.
@FungoBoy if you have a problem with the tempo dont bitch about Klemperer...Wagner marks it very clearly as Langsam...ya know he put some thought into that for a reason...but I can tell you that you can trick the tempo a bit and move it from 4 into 2 and still keep the intent of the tempo markings - but thats probably over your head and I am wasting my breath..
@FungoBoy I think his Brahms 4 movement 3 is pretty fast, and as for Norrington he was using Wagers own stop watch timings. So, what is right? The artist and the listener must decide. Inner truth is more important than external truth ( I paraphrase Schoenberg, even if I do not totally agree with him).
Indeed, this is a fantastic recording. Handicapped people can function well!
Otto Klemperer suffered from severe bipolar disorder. On top of that, he was partially paralyzed after a botched brain tumor removal. At the time of this recording, he had to conduct while seated because of a spinal injury resulting from a bad fall from an airplane staircase. He had also been badly burned from falling asleep with a lit pipe full, and using a flask of whisky to attempt to put out the fire.
Say what you will about Wagner´s political ambitions. He was a musical genius. Nevertheless what mood I´m in, this piece shakes my foundations and leaves me in tears of joy and pain.
Vielen Dank!:-) Es wundert mich, von diesem Maler nie gehoert zu haben. Diese von Ihnen ausgewaehlten Bilder passen so hervorragend zum Lohengrin-Vorspiel...ja, zu allen romatnischen Opern Wagners.
Wer ist Author dieser zauberhaften Bilder? Ist das ein Zycklus e i n e s Kuenstlers? Wenn jemand mir vewrraten keonnte, wie er hiess oder wie sie hiessen, waere ich sehr dankbar:) Ehrt Eure deutsche Meister!:)
To not listen to this great music just because the man who wrote it held terrible beliefs is feeble minded, against art, and, most of all, cowardly. Listening to Wagner has the same benefits as listening to any great music but will not turn you into an anti-Semite or a Nazi.
It's so sad that Wagner has his name and music blackened by his anti-semetic beliefs and those of they who listened to him. Perfect music doesn't deserve to suffer for it's composer's shortcomings
Verily, The El Elaion, those who came to Ed Leedskalnin who built Coral Castle, came to me and brought "unto me" my divine spouse from the mystical Line of David. Aristotle: "Love is one soul inhabiting two bodies." I wouldn't put it that way all the time, for we now meet at the Well of purified mind of the Living One who Sees me. He is the masculine Spirit of Truth to this femme soul; this femme Holy Mother Ghoos(t) soul who is silly. (AN)d He is HRH Nick de Vere; and I love Him, verily.
ElbeRiver, you German people are just jealous, because except for people like the drug-crazed transsexual Hermann Göring, you have nothing to offer...
This is exactly what ElbeRiver, the "court jester" of YouTube, wanted: People from UK get a bad impression of the Germany of today. He wrote comments for more than 100 videos or channel pages.
e.g.
Enter the following line into Google (with quotation marks):
"get some psychiatric help, little ugly faggot"
Now click on "jeffy62's" channel.
You find ElbeRiver's comment in the comment box!
ElbeRiver calls another person a psychopathic faggot. And he is a gay psychopath himself!
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Distasteful fascist nazi hoodwinked chords of death. Hitler listened to this banality as millions of Jews, Communists, Jehova Witnesses, gay people, non conformists etc etc suffered in concentration and death camps. Bastard Wagner was one of the most anti semetic criminals, like Adolf Hitler.
Als Klemperer 1905 bei Gustav Mahlers 2. Sinfonie unter Oskar Fried das Fernorchester dirigieren durfte, traf er den Komponisten persönlich. Die beiden wurden Freunde, und Klemperer bekam 1907 auf Empfehlung Mahlers die Stelle des Chorleiters, später eines Kapellmeisters am deutschen Landestheater in Prag. 1910 assistierte er Mahler bei der Uraufführung von dessen 8. Sinfonie.
1933 "verreiste er für einige Jahre ins Ausland" (Amerika). Wohl nicht ohne Grund!
Das kann ich mir gut vorstellen, aber die meisten Dirigenten sind doch "sehr streng", oder? Also wenn ich da etwa an die filmisch festgehaltenen Zornesausbrüche Toscaninis denke, eiei.. Ich denke, es braucht eine gewisse Strenge, um möglichst zügig so ein Stück einzustudieren etc. Wichtig ist, dass auch der Humor nicht zu kurz kommt, weil atmen müssen die Musiker bei aller Strenge schon auch noch können, sonst wird es auch nichts..
Not only was his son Werner the actor who played Col. Klink. His cousin Viktor Klemperer was a famous Professor in Literature. He lived under miserable conditions in a ghetto, where he was routinely mistreated and humiliated by the Gestapo. On 13th of Feb. 1945, He used the confusion created by Allied bombings that night to remove his yellow Jew star and escape to the American occupied area in Germany.
Merci für den Hinweis, hab ich gar nicht gewusst. Dresden ist neben München und Hamburg meine Lieblingsstadt in Deutschland. Schlimm, diese Bombardierungen, grauenhaft, so was möcht ich nicht erlebt haben..
This is my favorite ever recording of this luminous and sublime music; Klemperer's direction and the playing of the magnificent orchestra are beyond praise. Those people who don't think Klemperer was a great Wagnerian should really give this a listen.
c'est un sacré compositeur que je rêve d'exploiter en tant que chanteuse d'ici deux ou trois ans. ces opéras notamment sont magnifiques tant au niveau mélodique, que harmonique ou bien du choix des instruments. je suis vraiment de redécouvrir ce prélude... merci
Fantastic, beautiful. When I first heard this piece with my eyes closed I actually pictured these scenes..Thank you and well done primobaritono.
giovanni2battista 1 month ago
Lovely playing.TY primobaitono for posting.
paulostroff99 3 months ago
Sublime ... unbelievable recording ....tx
kkapur111 3 months ago
Even better than Furtwangler.
saagua1953 7 months ago
@saagua1953 unfortunately the great Furtwangler's recordings are all old "needle on wax" mono and I'm sure don't do justice to his and the ochestra's talent. same with many early Wagner singers like Vickers, Windgassen and Flagstad.
That eing siad, I have the CD set of Klemperer's 1968 "Der Fliegende Hollander" with Thoe Adman and Anja Silja and it's 2nd only to Levine with Morris and Voigt in 1997
LeRinkRat 5 months ago
Fantastic..
brunoblood 7 months ago
food for the soul.... an all enveloping aura of other wordly emotions.... truly beautiful .......
skarykat 8 months ago
Heavenly music!
louisalit 8 months ago
Astounding
lucaclari 9 months ago
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Werner312 10 months ago
The most beautiful song ever written.
Mirani2 11 months ago
bellissimo,bellissimo,bellissimo,Wagner!Wagner!Wagner...
Werner312 1 year ago
Simply amazing, i appreciate the fact that is slower because i enjoy wagner.
Reisertiel 1 year ago
Oh my God, thats amazing!! Klemperer is one of the very few conductors wha has the spirit, the feeling and - of course - the balls for this music. William
williamforever1958 1 year ago
I find that people examine music too much, sometimes. Music like this fills the soul and isn't that the whole point?
thebear138 1 year ago
@thebear138
You should read up "Moff's Law" on the internet ;)
twooffour 1 year ago
mooi
lilymatti 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me about the art?
Hosenfeld24601 1 year ago
@Hosenfeld24601
Most of the work is J W Waterhouse, some other artists as well, such as Rosetti, but predominantly Waterhouse. Not really keen myself on the particular choices, as they refer to specific legends and tales not Lohengrin related, but then, no reason to dispute the particular imagery inclinations of the poster. I had just wanted to hear Klemperer doing Lohengrin myself.
josephsummer777 1 year ago
@Hosenfeld24601 I don't know whether I successfully posted my reply: most is J W Waterhouse
josephsummer777 1 year ago
@josephsummer777 Danke schön!
Hosenfeld24601 1 year ago
@Hosenfeld24601 bitte schoen (no umlauts on my keyboard...)
josephsummer777 1 year ago
@Hosenfeld24601 Hunt down a copy of Olympian Dreamers: Victorian Classical Painters 1860-1914 by Christopher Wood.
Gorboduc 2 months ago
ay that geezer cant half play that fiddle
davidwella10 1 year ago
ce soir, pour la Grand-Mère de Delphine.
Pas d'autre message, que l'écoute.*
Elle y est peut etre déjà, ce soir...
picoek 1 year ago
who did the paintings ?
great music !
marielou95 1 year ago
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@marielou95 Hunt down a copy of Olympian Dreamers: Victorian Classical Painters 1860-1914 by Christopher Wood.
Gorboduc 2 months ago
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How could this video get only 103,637 views in a span of three years?
TheTimeTraveler100 1 year ago
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TheTimeTraveler100 1 year ago
Germany, such a great place with amazing people.
GermanicPrussian 1 year ago
@GermanicPrussian Uhmm. Nein, sind nicht alle Leute in Deutschland Wagner! Machen Sie doch keine Illusionen!
turpinaime 1 year ago
@turpinaime War ich mit dir zu sprechen? Wenn Sie haben nichts Besseres zu sagen, halten Sie Ihre Kommentare für sich.
GermanicPrussian 1 year ago
@GermanicPrussian And yet I wouldn't go there on holiday?
dronzagov 1 year ago
The paintings are exquisite!!!
captainmorgan757 1 year ago
fascinating and inaccessible..
MRwagnerism 1 year ago
@primobaritono; I agree, conductors with a plane to catch are a royal pain !
horsemad1670 1 year ago
Ich glaube, wenn ich eines Tages sterbe und dazu dieses wunderschöne Vorspiel hören könnte, dann würde mein Leben ein glückliches und würdiges Ende erfahren.
Treibt mir zusammen mit dem Parsifal-Vorspiel jedes Mal die Tränen in die Augen!
Dresdenftw 1 year ago 3
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All the Jews to the stern, and then later in the stern of my vagina the entire buttocks of a Jewish baby and since then, I will open my body every hole, and at the same time, vomiting, defecation, urination and ejaculation will ask my vagina is dog feces and more
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
Richard Wagner was born on this day, May 22, 1813, in Leipzig, Germany...Lohengrin premired in 1849...and Franz Liszt conducted the entire score...after the failed Revolutions of 1848, Wagner who was agitating against the Prussian King, Friedrich Wilhelm III, went into exile in Switzerland, where he spent the next 13 years, until 1861...
GemCan78 1 year ago
Like most late nineteenth century music I've heard, Wagner's seems a sad caricature compared to the likes of Beethoven and Mendelssohn, e.g. There's something strained in Wagner. Perhaps he'd intuited what was about to befall his poor Europeans...
johnhofi 1 year ago
@johnhofi It is different. 19th century music has the ability to be truly serious, unlike Beethoven who is often dramatic but also somewhat playful. Wagner's music can really move me to tears. Especially this beautifully sad and endlessly melancholic prelude of Lohengrin has this ability.
And I believe it is more difficult to move people to tears through art than make them laugh, much more difficult. It's not really possible to deny Wagner's genious methinks.
Pollione88 1 year ago
Wagner passed all his life trying to make people understand what love and eternity are.
schef75 1 year ago
I want this played at my wake...
Hairyarmpit 1 year ago
Klemperer's interpretaion of this magical piece is superb beyond measure both in the beauty of the phrasing, the overall structure and the superb playing of the Philharmonia. Rejoice! This was part of a set of Wagner recordings made to celebrate Klemperer's 75th Birthday made in the glorious Kingsway Hall, London. He was at the peak of his relationship with the Philharmonia and this wonderful partnership is reflected in some ravishing playing. Recordings that will never be out of the catalogue.
klemperer10 1 year ago
While there's art there's hope.
schef75 1 year ago
Lohengrin Uber alles....
sorab777 1 year ago
schöne, vielen danke...!
Darodh 1 year ago
This whole opera was so so sad. Every sad, longing image I ever had was conjured up in the music, the story, and the characters. The bitterness of loss and love.
Mirani2 1 year ago
Wonderful, thank you !
Leonidas1789 1 year ago
beautiful. no words... no. just listen.
fiors73 1 year ago
So schön!
lyrten 1 year ago
The first notes beckoned me from my very being that I might pass through the Brilliance and burn, for a moment, in The Radiance.....
VillaPriscillla 1 year ago
Thing I love so much about this music is that it is so descriptive. Everyone in the world has a different visualization in their head. One man could remember the past wife he lost, and another man could remember that special night in Orleans. Personally, I imagine floating in the clouds, and then sitting on a bench in a park with a very special someone.
coolman4393 1 year ago
Magnifique ! Merci.. les tableaux sont aussi de toute beauté en parfaite adéquation avec cette oeuvre. !
clochette67 1 year ago
peerless
trillypix 1 year ago
牛逼
d602391473 1 year ago
A-MOR music. Inmortal music. ELELLA - ELLAEL music.
sigfridoss 1 year ago
Enough has already been said about the incredible beauty of the music, but where are the wonderful pictures from?
krischan67 1 year ago
Many pre-Raphaelite artists... the one of Tristan and Isolde (with the harp!) is by Edmund Blair Leighton, as is the one of the woman knighting the man, and "God Speed," with a lady bestowing a favor; the one of the Holy Grail is by Dante Gabriel Rossetti; "La Belle Dame Sans Merci" (woman leaning from horse) by Frank Dicksee. Waterhouse has several, including "Echo and Narcissus," and "Psyche Entering Cupid's Garden." And that's all I recognized... Wishing you happy discoveries!
vidiegoquam 1 year ago
@vidiegoquam
The most are from J.W. Waterhouse. Look Google-pictures
kugelwuerfel 1 year ago
@agenestatos13
υπάρχει καλύτερος συνδυασμός από τον : Klemperer/Wagner?....
FliegendeHollaender 1 year ago
merci, c'est merveilleux, es ist wunderbar, danke shon !
Darodh 1 year ago
La première fois que j'ai vu cette Oeuvre merveilleuse ... il a été dans le palais d'Opéra de Paris, le ténia 19 ans ... et voilà que je rappelle que j'ai pleuré d'une émotion .. je ne l'oublierai jamais.
Un maître Lohengrin ... par qu'il se ressemble à moi, dans tout ... dans tout.
tttristeamor 1 year ago 6
The wagneric genius compresses the entirety of the european inner spirit in 9:58 minutes
Napoleontas 2 years ago 3
c´est d´une beauté , avec une emotion extraordinaire , qu´elle belle musique , wagner au walhalla
anarchose1 1 year ago
Beautiful
TheDukeOfEd99 2 years ago 5
No words...
catalonian1714 2 years ago
This music conveys what words can't.
MrAlexKeaton 2 years ago 5
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PauleQueenie 2 years ago 2
It would be good to see the Conservative party open a conference with this. Could be a bit risque by UK political standards though.
gwangjuboy 2 years ago
Klemperer absolutely nails this! I always regret listening to the music of Wagner; I am arrested by nostalgia, living in this dead ass twenty first century and all.
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago 8
absoultely dead-on observation, MrNoble. I myself come to Wagner from time to time, to escape these times.
JudgeDork 2 years ago
Even though they grew to have disagreements, Wagner and Nietzsche are still both sons of the German people and culture. And both were a blessing to Europe!
TheInternetG 2 years ago 7
I love this music !
This was performed in openings of Corfu (Greece) Municipal Theatre, on December 7, 1902.
That's why I also made a video with this music.
Thank you for the little story you have dressed this beautifull music.
Tetrafonia 2 years ago
uhm... yes i think this is the most beautiful and meaningful performances i have ever heard.
maxtanz 2 years ago 8
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Die Illustrationen der englischen Präraffaeliten sind allerdings eine kongeniale Ergänzung, die die Wirkung der Musik noch steigert.
kugelwuerfel 2 years ago
very beatiful
HuntaDeNise 2 years ago
Ce prélude est d'une extraodinaire et insurpassable beauté. Il est pour moi source d'une émotion qu'aucune autre musique ne provoque. Wagner était vraiment un compositeur génial.
Parsiphalle 2 years ago 6
Je reprends totalement pour moi le dernier commentaire de Parsphalle.
De tous le compositeur classique, c'est celui que je trouve le plus extraordinaire! Sa musique, comparée aux autres et , vraiment à un autre niveau...plus près des sphères...et ce prélude est , entre autre, une des plus belle musique qu'il a écrite... Sortie du contexte de Lohengrin, elle évoque pour moi les quelques minutes précédent le plus beau des levers de soleil qui a lieu a 6m35
josajpnide 2 years ago
Colonel Klink's dad was pretty good, wasn't he?
Pugophile 2 years ago 17
@Pugophile Yep, as good as Toscanini!!
acla9000 3 months ago
Wonderful! One thousand times wonderful!
lupemou 2 years ago 7
Timeless..
No word can describe the impressive beauty, the great richness and splendor of this music
This is one of the best performances I have ever heard.
manouchehr7 2 years ago 45
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The build up was nice, but he seems to stumble around the climax...
Grimgerde 2 years ago
The music is beautiful, the artwork sublime. Altogether this video brought peace and harmony to my soul :).
AntinousIsGod1 2 years ago 5
Normally Wagner annoys me (I feel his music is too heavy) but this is much better! Even from the start it is very delicate. Thumbs up! ^w^
Hazelnut301 2 years ago
when was record this?
It's very very good but unfortunately, i listened Furtwängler before x) so...
+ : It's slow, each instrumentals parts are perfectly precise, melodic lines are respected
to compare with Furtwängler, Can we compare? It's so far much better than this for many reasons. It's more pure and there is this unique atmosphere by Furtwängler.
Anyway, I like this recording 5*
petrof4056 2 years ago
25 février et 01 mars 1960
Philarmonia orchestra
C'est sur deux CD publié dans la collection Great recording...par EMI
Les ouvertures, la musique de "Götterdämmerung", Siegfried-idyll.
Enregistré en 1960 et 1961.
Complément indispensable à Furtwangler et Toscanini.
jacquesurlus 2 years ago
Klemperer was known for his relatively slow tempi which give the music time to breath and flower, exposing its beauty unlike other performances that rush it all.
saagua1953 2 years ago 5
Paradiso... a delicate sweet pain caressing the heart
actordev101 2 years ago
Ich möchte wissen, welche Muse Wagner beim komponieren dieser Overtüre inspirierte! Es muss eine gigantische Muse gewesen sein!!
Yeah23H 2 years ago 4
this is an angels` undisturbed, celestial joy...
FreieStadtElbing 2 years ago 2
primobaritono
What magnificent music, and I think Klemperer's version is the best. Shivers down my spine for approximately 45 seconds from about 6.30. Thank you for posting this. (You don't happen to have Klemperer's versions of Wagner's Rienzi Overture and Tannhauser Overture, and his magnificent recording of Mahler's 2nd Symphony, do you? - if so, could you post them please?)
zeuszeus00 2 years ago 2
I listened to all the Beethoven symphonies conducted by Klempere,I liked very much,but this Wagner I have to say that it's really too slow!
schwarzkavalier 2 years ago
You would like to make it more quickly, because you have not so much time to hear such a long music? You are a barbarian! The whole effect woud be destroyed! But you wolud be a good director in Bayreuth - there are only barbarians like you too!
kugelwuerfel 2 years ago
Thanks for this--I have this at home on CD but hadn't listened in a while. It's a shame that people listen to Norrington rather than Klemperer!
lordstarlink 2 years ago 3
@ lordstalink
Much agreed !
CaptainBluebear08 2 years ago
Les enregistrements laissés par Klemperer des ouvertures D'operas de Wagner sont extraordinaires. De la musique pure, plus besoin du drame la musique se suffit à elle même.
jacquesurlus 2 years ago 3
has anyone ever heard of a recording of klemperer conducting anything faster than moderato?
FungoBoy 2 years ago
If you think Klemperer conducts slow try Knappertsbusch. When it comes to Wagner I prefer broader tempi to fast ones. I remember Norrington conducting the Prelude to Meistersinger in a terribly fast manner and the piece completely fell apart. Just my opinion.
primobaritono 2 years ago 5
oh i'm not talking about this piece specifically, or about klemperer's interpretation of wagner, but in general.
i don't know if these are on youtube, but you should listen to him conducting some tchaikovsky finale,warning: it's painful
FungoBoy 2 years ago
You should listen to Celibidaches Wagner-Ouvertures, his Meistersinger-Ouverture is uncomparable!
mariusfelix 2 years ago
@primobaritono I do think that Wagner must not be played too fast, in comparison. But I haven't heard Klemperer (who was famed for his broad tempi) conduct much Wagner - and this Prelude is simply sublime! When is it recorded?
iplongnin 1 year ago
Yes, listen "Das Lied von der Erde" by Mahler Mov. 1
laueralex 2 years ago
@FungoBoy
The problem here is twofold. Most known interpretations of Klemperer are made after 1955-1971, where he was very old. As he was young many critics said he was conducting way too fast^^. Then, Klemp is all for "structure" of a piece. Thus it is not important if he is "slow" - it is just a side effect of his shaping out every thing contained in the score. I always recommend different recordings, but Klemperer's are often just superb^^.
Klemperer 1 year ago
@FungoBoy if you have a problem with the tempo dont bitch about Klemperer...Wagner marks it very clearly as Langsam...ya know he put some thought into that for a reason...but I can tell you that you can trick the tempo a bit and move it from 4 into 2 and still keep the intent of the tempo markings - but thats probably over your head and I am wasting my breath..
jdbuxto 1 year ago
@FungoBoy Of course, there was always Werner Klemperer, and he was rather quick with the, "Hogan!" The asshole, I know.
MattWhatsGoinOn 1 year ago
@FungoBoy I think his Brahms 4 movement 3 is pretty fast, and as for Norrington he was using Wagers own stop watch timings. So, what is right? The artist and the listener must decide. Inner truth is more important than external truth ( I paraphrase Schoenberg, even if I do not totally agree with him).
JohnBicknell 1 year ago
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jomoathom 2 years ago
"Heaven is abundant with violins" (German saying)
CaptainBluebear08 2 years ago 3
AMO ESA OVERTURA!!!!!
Aliciaeda 2 years ago
Indeed, this is a fantastic recording. Handicapped people can function well!
Otto Klemperer suffered from severe bipolar disorder. On top of that, he was partially paralyzed after a botched brain tumor removal. At the time of this recording, he had to conduct while seated because of a spinal injury resulting from a bad fall from an airplane staircase. He had also been badly burned from falling asleep with a lit pipe full, and using a flask of whisky to attempt to put out the fire.
Augbo 2 years ago
Absolut fantastisch!
dalifer 2 years ago 2
magnifico
raffha61 2 years ago 2
sooo lovely!
Only4Russian 2 years ago 2
Absolutely beautiful.
jelyse07 2 years ago 4
Germany's greatest gift from its 'Great Time'
z727272 2 years ago
I have one more question. How is the title of the painting with a holy-man and something like Lilith-woman in the background?
Loge84 2 years ago
All paintings are from the english Preraffaelites - the most from J.W. Waterhouse.
kugelwuerfel 2 years ago
Some very nice Pre-Raphaelites to accompany Lohengrin. Nice to see
Johnnocp 2 years ago
Klemperer has been one of the best conductors of all times and he was jewisch!
So wagner to me is the music
shalom
ERDFERKEL 2 years ago 3
Thank you for sharing your talents and gifts. You expand my "little" world.
2009NewBeginning 3 years ago
Sublime. No podía ser de otro modo
lohemgrin 3 years ago 2
perfect
ladykind21 3 years ago
This makes me cry every time!!!!! so Romantic!!!!
taykoz 3 years ago
Say what you will about Wagner´s political ambitions. He was a musical genius. Nevertheless what mood I´m in, this piece shakes my foundations and leaves me in tears of joy and pain.
ChristianPaul75 3 years ago
Wagner is God
lolomegadeth87 3 years ago 4
Breathtakingly beautiful!
greatgambino 3 years ago
Vielen Dank!:-) Es wundert mich, von diesem Maler nie gehoert zu haben. Diese von Ihnen ausgewaehlten Bilder passen so hervorragend zum Lohengrin-Vorspiel...ja, zu allen romatnischen Opern Wagners.
Besten Gruss!
Loge84 3 years ago
Wer ist Author dieser zauberhaften Bilder? Ist das ein Zycklus e i n e s Kuenstlers? Wenn jemand mir vewrraten keonnte, wie er hiess oder wie sie hiessen, waere ich sehr dankbar:) Ehrt Eure deutsche Meister!:)
Loge84 3 years ago
Die meisten dieser Bilder sind von Edmund Leighton Blair.
primobaritono 3 years ago
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kugelwuerfel 1 year ago
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kugelwuerfel 1 year ago
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kugelwuerfel 1 year ago
John William Waterhouse (1849-1917), British painter,born in Rome. With Wagner`s music, the ideal combination!
Flockton77 3 years ago 2
This is such beautiful music and the video is so lovely.
PeacefulRetreat35 3 years ago 2
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javierqatar 3 years ago
This is supposed to be about music, not your stupid politics!
yarwood1935 3 years ago 4
I guess you're British.
javierqatar 2 years ago
Die 2 Comments waren eigentlich als reply für "ImHerbst" gedacht, mühsam, dass es die manchmal statt als reply als Comment nimmt, naja..
blaugrun67 3 years ago
To not listen to this great music just because the man who wrote it held terrible beliefs is feeble minded, against art, and, most of all, cowardly. Listening to Wagner has the same benefits as listening to any great music but will not turn you into an anti-Semite or a Nazi.
somecallmeRudy 3 years ago
It's so sad that Wagner has his name and music blackened by his anti-semetic beliefs and those of they who listened to him. Perfect music doesn't deserve to suffer for it's composer's shortcomings
Grayseff 3 years ago
Verily, The El Elaion, those who came to Ed Leedskalnin who built Coral Castle, came to me and brought "unto me" my divine spouse from the mystical Line of David. Aristotle: "Love is one soul inhabiting two bodies." I wouldn't put it that way all the time, for we now meet at the Well of purified mind of the Living One who Sees me. He is the masculine Spirit of Truth to this femme soul; this femme Holy Mother Ghoos(t) soul who is silly. (AN)d He is HRH Nick de Vere; and I love Him, verily.
Karelissa 3 years ago
ElbeRiver, you German people are just jealous, because except for people like the drug-crazed transsexual Hermann Göring, you have nothing to offer...
DeanBufton 3 years ago
DeanBufton
This is exactly what ElbeRiver, the "court jester" of YouTube, wanted: People from UK get a bad impression of the Germany of today. He wrote comments for more than 100 videos or channel pages.
e.g.
Enter the following line into Google (with quotation marks):
"get some psychiatric help, little ugly faggot"
Now click on "jeffy62's" channel.
You find ElbeRiver's comment in the comment box!
ElbeRiver calls another person a psychopathic faggot. And he is a gay psychopath himself!
ImHerbst 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Distasteful fascist nazi hoodwinked chords of death. Hitler listened to this banality as millions of Jews, Communists, Jehova Witnesses, gay people, non conformists etc etc suffered in concentration and death camps. Bastard Wagner was one of the most anti semetic criminals, like Adolf Hitler.
PLUMLEYHALL 3 years ago
Thank you for your opinion, now take your meds and lie down.
x666666x 3 years ago 4
Well,he died in 1883.Hitler borned in 1889.
Until I know, he didn't do anything after the death.
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago
Heavenly. Thank You Primo!
Quincypop 3 years ago
Ich kenne Klemperer v.a. als Mahler- und Beethoven-Dirigent und finde ihn so ziemlich den besten dafür. Aber auch Lohengrin bringt er phantastisch!
blaugrun67 3 years ago 2
Als Klemperer 1905 bei Gustav Mahlers 2. Sinfonie unter Oskar Fried das Fernorchester dirigieren durfte, traf er den Komponisten persönlich. Die beiden wurden Freunde, und Klemperer bekam 1907 auf Empfehlung Mahlers die Stelle des Chorleiters, später eines Kapellmeisters am deutschen Landestheater in Prag. 1910 assistierte er Mahler bei der Uraufführung von dessen 8. Sinfonie.
1933 "verreiste er für einige Jahre ins Ausland" (Amerika). Wohl nicht ohne Grund!
1973 verstarb er hier in Zürich.
ImHerbst 3 years ago
Er arbeitete in den sechziger Jahren in Zürich am Opernhaus. Er soll "sehr streng" gewesen sein, sagten Orchestermiglieder.
ImHerbst 3 years ago
Das kann ich mir gut vorstellen, aber die meisten Dirigenten sind doch "sehr streng", oder? Also wenn ich da etwa an die filmisch festgehaltenen Zornesausbrüche Toscaninis denke, eiei.. Ich denke, es braucht eine gewisse Strenge, um möglichst zügig so ein Stück einzustudieren etc. Wichtig ist, dass auch der Humor nicht zu kurz kommt, weil atmen müssen die Musiker bei aller Strenge schon auch noch können, sonst wird es auch nichts..
blaugrun67 3 years ago
Sublime Beauty!!! There is a live after death that is for sure now !!
mihail1111 3 years ago
Isn't the conductor here, Klemperer, the father of the guy who played Col. Klink on Hogan's Heroes?
newsguy1972 3 years ago
Yes, that is correct.
primobaritono 3 years ago
primobaritono
Thank you very much for this marvellous video!
ImHerbst 3 years ago 3
newsguy1972
You are right! Otto Klemperer is the father of Werner Klemperer who played Col. Klink in Hogan's Heroes!
ImHerbst 3 years ago
Not only was his son Werner the actor who played Col. Klink. His cousin Viktor Klemperer was a famous Professor in Literature. He lived under miserable conditions in a ghetto, where he was routinely mistreated and humiliated by the Gestapo. On 13th of Feb. 1945, He used the confusion created by Allied bombings that night to remove his yellow Jew star and escape to the American occupied area in Germany.
ImHerbst 3 years ago
I forgot, it was the famous bombing of Dresden on February 13, 1945, which saved the life of Viktor Klemperer, the cousin of Otto Klemperer.
ImHerbst 3 years ago 2
Merci für den Hinweis, hab ich gar nicht gewusst. Dresden ist neben München und Hamburg meine Lieblingsstadt in Deutschland. Schlimm, diese Bombardierungen, grauenhaft, so was möcht ich nicht erlebt haben..
blaugrun67 3 years ago 3
It takes an old German conductor to get this tempo right....
Quincypop 3 years ago 3
The harmonics of violins at the beginning here are very similar to the beginning of the overture of La Traviata.
Love Klemperer
jacobsimon 3 years ago 2
LOHENGRIN was composed in 1848, TRAVIATA in 1853; it was Wagner who influenced Verdi.
billyguns2 3 years ago 2
yes, but Lohengrin was unknown in Italy!
SamueleVV 3 years ago
of course not! the italians were not living in the bush back. and wagner and verdi studied each others work...
lafayetteHH 3 years ago
words fall short...
meriomeri 3 years ago
This is my favorite ever recording of this luminous and sublime music; Klemperer's direction and the playing of the magnificent orchestra are beyond praise. Those people who don't think Klemperer was a great Wagnerian should really give this a listen.
billyguns2 3 years ago 3
jaja
hoppako 3 years ago
A Beautiful combination!
russradicans 3 years ago
Es MARAVILLOSO .Gracias,Y los cuadros,¿alguien conoce los autores?
serenity5a 3 years ago
Someone knows whos the autor of that pictures?¿
Pab123456 3 years ago
es precioso como interpreta a wagner, me encanta
javieldelespi 3 years ago
Fantastic! Thank you!
x666666x 3 years ago
Many of these paintings are by John William Waterhouse...
Lilyhook 3 years ago
c'est un sacré compositeur que je rêve d'exploiter en tant que chanteuse d'ici deux ou trois ans. ces opéras notamment sont magnifiques tant au niveau mélodique, que harmonique ou bien du choix des instruments. je suis vraiment de redécouvrir ce prélude... merci
johanna33560 3 years ago
IMMORTAL!
iLoveWagnerOpera 3 years ago