I was wondering have you ever used thought ruler? i was thinking of taking it out for another stardurst. Ive never used it once and sometimes wish i had a 2nd stardurst
I've used it, mostly when I'm reading a Book of Moon (or against random decks running D-Prison). Sometimes it's useful for beating over an opposing Stardust and gaining LP (sometimes the LP gain matters a lot). I've never lost games because I didn't have a second Stardust, but I have because of lack of TRA. The second Stardust is sometimes preferred over TRA, but not necessary. I've had the TRA be necessary over Stardust more than the reverse. But, I can certainly understand that thought.
Ive been running your deck for a long time and have my speical cards i like also. Have you ever tried enemy controller? There came alot of good things when i used enemy controller. provides def like book of moon but its 2nd effect has won me games/saved me. Can tribute stuff like mezuki/necro/goblin to take control of any monster e.g JD,stardurst,Dad
I have, and I find the random taking-of-the-Stardust to be far outweighed by shutting down a Whirlwind search, cool tricks with Armageddon Knight/Morphing Jar, protecting me from a Brain Control, stopping a DAD or JD when I have an opponent reading Divine Wrath, etc. The situations where Enemy Controller's second effect is really useful are ones that you rarely need to be so aggressive - it's cool but unnecessary. Book helps with more game-deciding things.
Morphing attacks the hand. Nothing goes 100% correct in this TCG. Against LS you want to hit those Honest and JD. Get them out of the way for a lost Honest play or JD, that now Beckoning Light has to save. The Jar would stall Honest and JD plays at least once until Beckoning comes for the save. The same way you can discard a LS players Wulfs and Necros, you can also hope for the best and hit, Honest, Celestia or JD. Give them dead Wulfs in hand. Think before you post.
i was refering to your choice of iron chain dragon over gaia, and how you specifically said you'd rather mill. i know what milling ig Pud.
this hostility is not directed@ u OP or Puddulz., but everyone thumbs down me cuz ur fucking idiots on the dick of the OP, someone says something critical and u get a thumbs down for it. i hate to break it to ya but i did top8 at the sjc i went to.
You make it sound like I'm bringing out Iron Chain on turn 2 or something. You only go for Iron Chain when Sworn's down in the 3-6 range, and a single attack either decks them out or puts them where summoning a JD and not winning that turn = loss.
well in my experience with the meta being as gy oriented as it is, its not jus ls, and that situation being as rare as it is, you'd be better off 9/10 grabbing gaia, rather than risking giving ur opponent an out.
really this argument is moot anyway once Brioniac hits....
its not jus ls, its not like he was running gaia as well, so should he need to go for a 6* and goyo is gone, he has to go for iron chain.
mezuki, vayu, necro, plague, wulf, are all top meta picks, the situation of going for a second level 6 sync is gonna come up alot more often then ls being close to decked out. i understand where u are coming from, im coming from a statistics point. didn't think of that did u. brioniac is out so problem solved anyway.
don't leave the flamevell sych out!!!! it may be weak but after a attack or 2 it will hurt badly plus he isn't semi limited or limited os u should be ok
It's a terrible card. When you can do broken things with it, you're in a position that you're already going to win. Early game, it's a useless card. Even late game, if your opponent Icarus/JDs/Celestias/Lylas or something on their turn, it's a useless card. It's a win-more card, not a card that helps you win.
Call of the Haunted only works well with Goblin Zombie. If someone targets Call with an effect and I chain it to bring back Armageddon Knight, Armageddon Knight ends up missing its timing. If not for that minor detail, Call probably would have made the cut. Without that, it's a card that's never necessarily, sometimes useful (usually only late game) and really bad early game (unless you open GZ, but GZ + Call openings are rare).
Trap Dustshoot fails by the same logic, except reverse situations. Early game it's awesome, but if I don't find it in the first couple turns, it's dead. Given that I don't have much draw power, I can't guarantee that I find it early. But, since the deck is slow, odds are my games will go long enough for me to eventually find the Dustshoot, usually when I don't want it.
I borrowed this list off the dude who made this deck and smashed local and larger events aswell, going 8 - 0, 7- 0 and winning out in the top 8 cuts, its amazing.
That's a really old build. As much as Karma Cut seemed like it was going to work in theory, it flopped miserably. We've gone through a lot of testing to get to the build we're at, and even though it doesn't necessarily look great on paper, it's the most consistent we've come up with. If you like the old one, go play it, but I can say with certainty that it's not nearly as good.
wanna duel by msn?????
ironkong0011 1 year ago
i will give u a ghost honest and a ancient sacred wyvern for amor master
xXjosephXx96 1 year ago
woow really? REAlly?
freakin amazing (not good)
u screwd up ur armor master
U MADE IT F*CKIN SECRET?!?!
teamdarkarmed 2 years ago
What do you side out to side in for blackwings?
BLACKWINGSTING 2 years ago
why would u play wrath over solemn????
hoghong1 2 years ago
howd u get dark end? lols
and how do u cope up against dark imprisoning mirrors without breaker/chiron the mage?
also does it work around arma knight + ditch out gardna then work ur way for cauis and DAD to fuck em up adn eventually game?
925bayareapinoy 2 years ago
what do you side out wen you play lightsworn
yugiohdragon007 2 years ago
Mirror Force, Heavy Storm, and Instant Fusion (in this build, at least).
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
go mst, instant and heavy
BLACKWINGSTING 2 years ago
Does this deck still work well now that Brionac has come out?
Unm3rc1fu1 2 years ago
Obviously it works better since it runs the Zombie engine.
Xerodynamicz 2 years ago
u referring to my sjc top 8? um, as a very alive atheist, and with current engineering not allowing us to travel through time, that'd be impossible.
when was the last time u topped darkarmed5175?
if you're not gonna say something intelligent, GTFO.
kapwns 2 years ago
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kapwns 2 years ago
does this deck work like it does without dark end?
ThaiJjang 2 years ago
My friend who ran the deck without Dark End took it to 21st at Columbus.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
@Pointlessness413 isnt heavy storm banned
thomasw5able 10 months ago
is your PSZ for trade
SuperRoyal5 2 years ago
wheres brionac and catastor and mist wurm
iheartcomps 2 years ago
i can't wait to see an update on ur deck.
onslaught13 2 years ago 4
Sweet deck!!
fateric007 2 years ago
Its deck like this which are going to have Buriel Limited to 1/Banned FAST
TenorSaxx 2 years ago
@TenorSaxx You really must be bad at this game.
Xerodynamicz 2 years ago
Buriel is broken this format, JUS SAYIN
TenorSaxx 2 years ago
Does Shutendoji find it's way into this build?
killerdca 2 years ago
With 6 other Zombies? Not really.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
so are u running a midified deck of this at columbus
jj5thegr8t 2 years ago
Probably? There are some other ideas in the works with SOVR being legal. Depends what can get worked out by next week.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
BADASS !
Ziggola 2 years ago
I was wondering have you ever used thought ruler? i was thinking of taking it out for another stardurst. Ive never used it once and sometimes wish i had a 2nd stardurst
Dartx 2 years ago
I've used it, mostly when I'm reading a Book of Moon (or against random decks running D-Prison). Sometimes it's useful for beating over an opposing Stardust and gaining LP (sometimes the LP gain matters a lot). I've never lost games because I didn't have a second Stardust, but I have because of lack of TRA. The second Stardust is sometimes preferred over TRA, but not necessary. I've had the TRA be necessary over Stardust more than the reverse. But, I can certainly understand that thought.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
Ive been running your deck for a long time and have my speical cards i like also. Have you ever tried enemy controller? There came alot of good things when i used enemy controller. provides def like book of moon but its 2nd effect has won me games/saved me. Can tribute stuff like mezuki/necro/goblin to take control of any monster e.g JD,stardurst,Dad
Dartx 2 years ago
I have, and I find the random taking-of-the-Stardust to be far outweighed by shutting down a Whirlwind search, cool tricks with Armageddon Knight/Morphing Jar, protecting me from a Brain Control, stopping a DAD or JD when I have an opponent reading Divine Wrath, etc. The situations where Enemy Controller's second effect is really useful are ones that you rarely need to be so aggressive - it's cool but unnecessary. Book helps with more game-deciding things.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
ima try dis deck out
xboxliveking101 2 years ago
I really like this deck, especially all the potential morphing jar plays.
TeamBumpyJustin 2 years ago
yeah mill ls, send those wulfs and necro gardnas to the gy for them..
kapwns 2 years ago
Milling=Deck to Graveyard.
Morphing attacks the hand. Nothing goes 100% correct in this TCG. Against LS you want to hit those Honest and JD. Get them out of the way for a lost Honest play or JD, that now Beckoning Light has to save. The Jar would stall Honest and JD plays at least once until Beckoning comes for the save. The same way you can discard a LS players Wulfs and Necros, you can also hope for the best and hit, Honest, Celestia or JD. Give them dead Wulfs in hand. Think before you post.
Puddulz 2 years ago
...what was the point to this post?
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
It is my reply to 'kapwns' post, which has 3 thumbs down, from about a week ago.
Puddulz 2 years ago
Oh, lol. My bad.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
Its cool *(^_^)*
Puddulz 2 years ago
i was refering to your choice of iron chain dragon over gaia, and how you specifically said you'd rather mill. i know what milling ig Pud.
this hostility is not directed@ u OP or Puddulz., but everyone thumbs down me cuz ur fucking idiots on the dick of the OP, someone says something critical and u get a thumbs down for it. i hate to break it to ya but i did top8 at the sjc i went to.
kapwns 2 years ago
You make it sound like I'm bringing out Iron Chain on turn 2 or something. You only go for Iron Chain when Sworn's down in the 3-6 range, and a single attack either decks them out or puts them where summoning a JD and not winning that turn = loss.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
well in my experience with the meta being as gy oriented as it is, its not jus ls, and that situation being as rare as it is, you'd be better off 9/10 grabbing gaia, rather than risking giving ur opponent an out.
really this argument is moot anyway once Brioniac hits....
kapwns 2 years ago
its not jus ls, its not like he was running gaia as well, so should he need to go for a 6* and goyo is gone, he has to go for iron chain.
mezuki, vayu, necro, plague, wulf, are all top meta picks, the situation of going for a second level 6 sync is gonna come up alot more often then ls being close to decked out. i understand where u are coming from, im coming from a statistics point. didn't think of that did u. brioniac is out so problem solved anyway.
kapwns 2 years ago
don't leave the flamevell sych out!!!! it may be weak but after a attack or 2 it will hurt badly plus he isn't semi limited or limited os u should be ok
MrTrapitup 2 years ago
have fun keeping it on the field. might as well get colossal.
ThaiJjang 2 years ago
megan fox is hot
TheShadowLeader 2 years ago
I also see you don't run Sangan. Can you explain this ?
AndreDgeX 2 years ago
have u tried return from a different dimension ive been testing it and it wins games im able to bring out about 5 synchros in 1 turn
greenblue60 2 years ago
It's a terrible card. When you can do broken things with it, you're in a position that you're already going to win. Early game, it's a useless card. Even late game, if your opponent Icarus/JDs/Celestias/Lylas or something on their turn, it's a useless card. It's a win-more card, not a card that helps you win.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
Why didnt you play Call of the Haunted or Trapdustshoot ? Thanks for answering
AndreDgeX 2 years ago
Call of the Haunted only works well with Goblin Zombie. If someone targets Call with an effect and I chain it to bring back Armageddon Knight, Armageddon Knight ends up missing its timing. If not for that minor detail, Call probably would have made the cut. Without that, it's a card that's never necessarily, sometimes useful (usually only late game) and really bad early game (unless you open GZ, but GZ + Call openings are rare).
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
Trap Dustshoot fails by the same logic, except reverse situations. Early game it's awesome, but if I don't find it in the first couple turns, it's dead. Given that I don't have much draw power, I can't guarantee that I find it early. But, since the deck is slow, odds are my games will go long enough for me to eventually find the Dustshoot, usually when I don't want it.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
also do u not like holo cards i was expecting u to have like ult vortex and ult necros etc btw do u have any foreigh common staples
greenblue60 2 years ago
u brought the deck to the US meta but the real concept of the deck was japanese and it won the japan nationals
greenblue60 2 years ago
good deck bad player.
NexonGM101 2 years ago
Good deck mediocre player.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
anyone who goes 8-0 at regionals and 7-2 at the jump, in my book is a good player nice deck bro
Grakeno12 2 years ago 4
hey i wanna see this deck in a duel!!!
can u post up a duel video?
feralshanked 2 years ago
I'll record some videos at Regionals this weekend. I have videos from Regionals where I played this deck.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
whoa dude your armor master looks like a secret rare
Robrtn33 2 years ago
No ofcourse not I was messaging you over youtube to get your list :P, props though man, i'll probs keep this deck for the format.
Ibzmosh 2 years ago
I was implying that i borrowed it off you :p
Ibzmosh 2 years ago
Lol, ok :P I wasn't sure if you were going to tell me someone else made it.
Also, can everyone who hasn't subscribed to me yet do so? I need more subs.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
I borrowed this list off the dude who made this deck and smashed local and larger events aswell, going 8 - 0, 7- 0 and winning out in the top 8 cuts, its amazing.
Ibzmosh 2 years ago
I am the dude who made this deck >.>
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
lolhaXorZwIthBARBQsauce
...and I so thought you were gonna say Dan Bender at 0:20..
gaaraohye 2 years ago
Nobody's as bad as you...except Ethan.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
i think that the firsthokage6 is better than this deck no offense but i like his better and i think it would have done better
vmjful 2 years ago
You realize that the two of us are teammates and ran identical decks, right?
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
? oh i no that but i ment his dotm one
vmjful 2 years ago
That's a really old build. As much as Karma Cut seemed like it was going to work in theory, it flopped miserably. We've gone through a lot of testing to get to the build we're at, and even though it doesn't necessarily look great on paper, it's the most consistent we've come up with. If you like the old one, go play it, but I can say with certainty that it's not nearly as good.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
so this one is better well on paper
vmjful 2 years ago
This one is better in practice. I think they all look ugly on paper.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
this would be the guy who laughs at 2:35, joe with common cards!?!? The worlds gonna end!!!
..life as I know it is a lie!
gaaraohye 2 years ago
Dan Bender...you're an idiot.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
wth is this joe and his freakn dark end dragon!?
AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Be seein you at toywiz :p
(where I'll own u and ur dark end...)
..but yeh..one day wanna stop owning people?
gaaraohye 2 years ago
Who is this? :p And I won't be back at Toywiz until Thanksgiving.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
love you joe.
well done!
NuggetsHoopster 2 years ago
you got a feature match at austin?
qwertypopp123 2 years ago
Round 6 vs. Andrew Fredella. I got smacked. I played so sickeningly atrociously I can't bring myself to read it.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
nice maT;P
Nbadude12345 2 years ago
nice, i wanna play you next time your at locals
spartan021595 2 years ago
Which locals?
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
toywiz
spartan021595 2 years ago
I won't be back until Thanksgiving.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
You play at Toywiz in Nanuet?
blues1110 2 years ago
When I'm at home I do.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
Cool, do you know of anyone else good who plays there?
blues1110 2 years ago
You should PM me if you want me to answer that.
Pointlessness413 2 years ago
i made this deck without dark end and its godly
greenblue60 2 years ago
Mooo!
TheFirstHokage6 2 years ago