wierd there are so many thing different for example the upside down pentagram is actually earth protection the original had upright then upside down anyone know where i can get it
@hila500 to you they are not the same--every religion or group has the right to follow whatever doctrine they choose! Simply because it is not principled as your group of Wiccans are, that does not mean their way is wrong and you "right." That's no different than the Christians saying Pagans & Jews are bad. We ALL need to stop disrespecting others belief systems! If you don't "feel bad" inside, there is nothing on earth that can make you feel bad, other than YOU.
@hila500 -1st. I can "speak" on anything I choose. 2nd. If someone creates a NEW "church" of Wicca with new perspectives--YOUR "researched" old ways aren't required. They can do or say what they want. You just aren't getting it. This isn't about YOU or YOUR opinion, it's about the FREEDOM to believe in whatever you want. If their group qualifies as a religion in whatever country they are in...so be it. If YOU don't agree--change YOUR channel--that's where your control begins and ends!
If someone creates a NEW "church" of Wicca that belives that Wicca and witchcraft are the same thing, it means that they created a new religion, because Wicca and witchcraft are NOT the same thing. do you know what is witchcraft?
@hila500 From Laurie Cabot's site: "Witches continue to be on the top of a growing list of targets... Buddhists and Hindus have also been added. Witches & Pagans are now grouped under the umbrella of Wicca. The fragmentation that is present even amongst Witches grows exponentially as we include other Wiccan groups to the equation. We often disagree and such disagreements have become vicious as the internet affords anonymity & sanctuary from real debate." She "loves & accepts all" AHEM!
@BellatorParanormal again from Laurie "It seems we invest much of our identity in what separates us rather than what we have in common. This of course plays into the hands of those who have identified their common goals and will relentlessly drive towards attaining them as we bicker by the side of the road about nonsense. For a brief period, we became one nation after September 11, why must it always be this kind of crisis that unites us?"...Her logic UNITES...yours tears down. I'll take hers!
@hila500 LOL you're so self-centered--arrogance like yours gives us ALL a bad rep. You could learn a great deal from Laurie's decency, not the other way around. With your attitude, no one will ever learn anything from you but selfishness and segregation.
@hila500 I try to educate people about all traditions including my own(Mohawk) showing the masses we're decent folk. With you ranting(bitching) over how 'different' we all are, you make that argument difficult. I am glad there is only one of you so adamant about this--good Wiccans welcome all, are healers, accepting of others, have festivals with other groups to celebrate life. It's a shame you have this need to separate yourself. Feel free to bitch, I won't be back--
I have a couple problems with Wicca. First of all, how do you decide what the God controls? What does the Goddess control? Femininity and masculinity are manmade concepts, right? Is the volcano controlled by the Male Principle? In Hawaii, the god in charge of volcanoes is really a goddess! In Hawaii, the Female Principle is in charge of the power of fire! So fire is not universally seen as male or macho or masculine. It really is very arbitrary. And some Witches are homophobic.
Fiona says at 1:38 that the Wicca is a Goddess ''religion''. But there is a God in Wicca! I'm speaking for myself but I see the God, in nature, in the massive form of a mountain or a tree, an open wide ocean or the force of a volcano. I see the Goddess in more delicate form like birds, deer, lakes or field of wheat growing. My point is that if in Nature there are masculine and feminine form...so are are the divine form of the God and the Goddess. That's how you get balance.
@MsGingergingercat I would've said the same if it wasn't for that new haircut of hers. It's so short she's almost bald >.< Ew. The face and all the rest would look great with longer hair.
But imagine that up in the air, thousands of feet above the city skyline, it'd be like Lois Lane and Superman (in reverse, of course). Besides, you wouldn't be doing Hermoine, you'd be doing Emma Watson, which is cool, but not quite the same.
Religion doesn't make sense, period. The only purpose it seems to have is to control a large group of people and there is plenty of evidence to back this up. Look at Scientology for example, biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard and yet people literally buy into it. No one can get over the fact that our purpose is no different than any animal, breed, reproduce, evolve. People would love to believe there has to be something more than that and its why religion is such a good manipulative tool.
@SpikeRazzor yes christianity was a mass control device..... but it can also give people a good moral code 2 follow(but not 2 slip into being a zealots) and it gives hope in harsh times..... so its not that bad...... so is the function of many other beliefs except S with the condition of not becoming a fanatic.
@noxnox11 Religion might not have come about originally to control, but even if they didn't its clear greed has turn them into such. Looking at it from the prospective of someone truly even, there is no greater power than having countless numbers of loyal followers who will do as they are instructed without question, even take an innocents life or take there own. Hitler figured this out.
@SpikeRazzor yes u decried what the chaotic church was in the past, with the inquisitions, the witch burnings ...etc. truth is there is strength in numbers.... u dont need 10 generals 2 control mindless followers, u need just 1 good one, and Hitler was a maniac who funded occult research.
this gives no real information to real wiccans and makes us look evil and bad i dont like it at all its true but ther hatred was fuled my ignorance as the ignorance of todays world of my religion i agree with fiona the christian godand the christian devil is something i dont agree wih or belive i am not satanic or evil neither are my fellow witches yess there is evil witches and warlocks but i am not one and i shun those who take that path for harm and evil and greed
@atreyujuggalo666 If you don't believe in "satan" you may want to drop the 666--this vid doesn't make YOU look bad. They are clear that Witches/Pagans do not believe in "the Devil." There are plenty of Christians abusing their faith and the people who follow it. Every religion has it's loons and most intelligent folk know this. You're putting your insecurities on this vid--others are allowed to interpet their religion different from you. That does NOT make them wrong, and you right!
@BellatorParanormal I agree and tongue in cheek fully Disagree the 666 in my username was just added numbers to make my name longer i could have chosen any sequence of numbers i Choose 666 because i thought it had a ring to it and would sounds cooler its not like my name is LUCIFER THY LORD or I KILL GOATS FOR THE DARKLORD lol it was merely a joke lol i have been studying the Pagan and wiccan Faiths since i was a baby brought up in a house where my mother was A witch and daddy was a pagan :)
freedom of religion. take it up with congress.
Lunabeam1 4 months ago
1) Most "witch's" were not burned at the stake.
2) Black represtents power
-.- Really People!!!!!
RadioActiveImpaler 6 months ago
Wiccans and Pagans are very peaceful loving people.
MissAmandaSpeaks 8 months ago 2
wierd there are so many thing different for example the upside down pentagram is actually earth protection the original had upright then upside down anyone know where i can get it
satianschildren666 11 months ago
WITHCRAFT IS NOT A RELIGION! wicca is a religion. wicca and witchcraft are not the same thing.
hila500 11 months ago 2
@hila500 to you they are not the same--every religion or group has the right to follow whatever doctrine they choose! Simply because it is not principled as your group of Wiccans are, that does not mean their way is wrong and you "right." That's no different than the Christians saying Pagans & Jews are bad. We ALL need to stop disrespecting others belief systems! If you don't "feel bad" inside, there is nothing on earth that can make you feel bad, other than YOU.
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal
i researched Wicca and i know that Wicca and witchcraft are not
the same thing. before you speak of Wicca, you need to LEARN what is Wicca.
hila500 7 months ago
@hila500 -1st. I can "speak" on anything I choose. 2nd. If someone creates a NEW "church" of Wicca with new perspectives--YOUR "researched" old ways aren't required. They can do or say what they want. You just aren't getting it. This isn't about YOU or YOUR opinion, it's about the FREEDOM to believe in whatever you want. If their group qualifies as a religion in whatever country they are in...so be it. If YOU don't agree--change YOUR channel--that's where your control begins and ends!
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal
If someone creates a NEW "church" of Wicca that belives that Wicca and witchcraft are the same thing, it means that they created a new religion, because Wicca and witchcraft are NOT the same thing. do you know what is witchcraft?
hila500 7 months ago
@hila500 From Laurie Cabot's site: "Witches continue to be on the top of a growing list of targets... Buddhists and Hindus have also been added. Witches & Pagans are now grouped under the umbrella of Wicca. The fragmentation that is present even amongst Witches grows exponentially as we include other Wiccan groups to the equation. We often disagree and such disagreements have become vicious as the internet affords anonymity & sanctuary from real debate." She "loves & accepts all" AHEM!
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal again from Laurie "It seems we invest much of our identity in what separates us rather than what we have in common. This of course plays into the hands of those who have identified their common goals and will relentlessly drive towards attaining them as we bicker by the side of the road about nonsense. For a brief period, we became one nation after September 11, why must it always be this kind of crisis that unites us?"...Her logic UNITES...yours tears down. I'll take hers!
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal
almost all wiccan and non-wiccan witches knows that wicca and witchcraft
are not the same thing, and if you will learn more about witchcraft
you will understand why almost every witch dont think that wicca and witchcraft
are the same thing. i think we need to end this discussion, because i dont
like to talk about witchcraft with someone that do not understand
what is witchcraft.
hila500 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal paganism is not under the umbrella of Wicca.
Wicca is under the umbrella of paganism
and if Laurie Cabot dont think i'm right, then maybe
she needs to learn what is middle Eastern paganism.
if Laurie Cabot think that witchcraft and Wicca are the same
thing, then maybe YOU need to learn what is witchcraft,
and then you will see why she is wrong.
almost EVERY Wiccan knows that Wicca and witchcraft are not
the same thing.
hila500 7 months ago
@hila500 LOL you're so self-centered--arrogance like yours gives us ALL a bad rep. You could learn a great deal from Laurie's decency, not the other way around. With your attitude, no one will ever learn anything from you but selfishness and segregation.
ZodiarkSavior 7 months ago
@hila500 I try to educate people about all traditions including my own(Mohawk) showing the masses we're decent folk. With you ranting(bitching) over how 'different' we all are, you make that argument difficult. I am glad there is only one of you so adamant about this--good Wiccans welcome all, are healers, accepting of others, have festivals with other groups to celebrate life. It's a shame you have this need to separate yourself. Feel free to bitch, I won't be back--
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
She must have been HUNGARY. Evil bitch.Oops I mean Witch.
IMA60SKID 1 year ago
what would Jesus have to say about this?
IMA60SKID 1 year ago
@IMA60SKID LOVE ALL
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal Sure, but remember. You cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
IMA60SKID 7 months ago
I have a couple problems with Wicca. First of all, how do you decide what the God controls? What does the Goddess control? Femininity and masculinity are manmade concepts, right? Is the volcano controlled by the Male Principle? In Hawaii, the god in charge of volcanoes is really a goddess! In Hawaii, the Female Principle is in charge of the power of fire! So fire is not universally seen as male or macho or masculine. It really is very arbitrary. And some Witches are homophobic.
TheFarrierman 1 year ago
Fiona says at 1:38 that the Wicca is a Goddess ''religion''. But there is a God in Wicca! I'm speaking for myself but I see the God, in nature, in the massive form of a mountain or a tree, an open wide ocean or the force of a volcano. I see the Goddess in more delicate form like birds, deer, lakes or field of wheat growing. My point is that if in Nature there are masculine and feminine form...so are are the divine form of the God and the Goddess. That's how you get balance.
Pregarios 1 year ago
@Pregarios she said we recognize both the God and the Goddess
witchcraftlover 1 year ago 5
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Pregarios 1 year ago
Top 'vid.:)**WITCHCRAFT IS WHAT YOU BELIEVE WHEN YOU BELIEVE IN NOTHING!:)**
AlburyAustralia 1 year ago
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Drewsy814 1 year ago
So are there any Hermoine-like witches? Cos that'd be REALLY cool, just flying 'round throwing spells at people defy all laws of physics.
handplanty 1 year ago
@handplanty - I'd take Hermione even *without* the flying, spells, etc.........
MsGingergingercat 1 year ago
@MsGingergingercat I would've said the same if it wasn't for that new haircut of hers. It's so short she's almost bald >.< Ew. The face and all the rest would look great with longer hair.
But imagine that up in the air, thousands of feet above the city skyline, it'd be like Lois Lane and Superman (in reverse, of course). Besides, you wouldn't be doing Hermoine, you'd be doing Emma Watson, which is cool, but not quite the same.
handplanty 1 year ago
@Temarikatt ya but they dont exactly do horrible stuff......and they atell you their beliefs
noxnox11 1 year ago
@Temarikatt diferent religions make sence 2 diferent people....but the big S is not areligion it is a cult
noxnox11 1 year ago
please leave ur up is ass christian views at the start of the vid... thank u
noxnox11 1 year ago
"God" is not a Christian concept, it comes from ancient Germany - pagan Europe and means a universal life force.
The Christian "God" is al Jehovah; the Bedouin version of Thor
alSation81 1 year ago
Religion doesn't make sense, period. The only purpose it seems to have is to control a large group of people and there is plenty of evidence to back this up. Look at Scientology for example, biggest bunch of crap I've ever heard and yet people literally buy into it. No one can get over the fact that our purpose is no different than any animal, breed, reproduce, evolve. People would love to believe there has to be something more than that and its why religion is such a good manipulative tool.
SpikeRazzor 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor yes christianity was a mass control device..... but it can also give people a good moral code 2 follow(but not 2 slip into being a zealots) and it gives hope in harsh times..... so its not that bad...... so is the function of many other beliefs except S with the condition of not becoming a fanatic.
noxnox11 1 year ago
@noxnox11 Religion might not have come about originally to control, but even if they didn't its clear greed has turn them into such. Looking at it from the prospective of someone truly even, there is no greater power than having countless numbers of loyal followers who will do as they are instructed without question, even take an innocents life or take there own. Hitler figured this out.
SpikeRazzor 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor yes u decried what the chaotic church was in the past, with the inquisitions, the witch burnings ...etc. truth is there is strength in numbers.... u dont need 10 generals 2 control mindless followers, u need just 1 good one, and Hitler was a maniac who funded occult research.
noxnox11 1 year ago
@SpikeRazzor very good,, watch the experiment. new movie
eagletalons2007 1 year ago
@noxnox11, bullshit
ShaytanBozorg 1 year ago
this gives no real information to real wiccans and makes us look evil and bad i dont like it at all its true but ther hatred was fuled my ignorance as the ignorance of todays world of my religion i agree with fiona the christian godand the christian devil is something i dont agree wih or belive i am not satanic or evil neither are my fellow witches yess there is evil witches and warlocks but i am not one and i shun those who take that path for harm and evil and greed
atreyujuggalo666 1 year ago 18
@atreyujuggalo666 lol 111 see these
eagletalons2007 1 year ago
@atreyujuggalo666 If you don't believe in "satan" you may want to drop the 666--this vid doesn't make YOU look bad. They are clear that Witches/Pagans do not believe in "the Devil." There are plenty of Christians abusing their faith and the people who follow it. Every religion has it's loons and most intelligent folk know this. You're putting your insecurities on this vid--others are allowed to interpet their religion different from you. That does NOT make them wrong, and you right!
BellatorParanormal 7 months ago
@BellatorParanormal I agree and tongue in cheek fully Disagree the 666 in my username was just added numbers to make my name longer i could have chosen any sequence of numbers i Choose 666 because i thought it had a ring to it and would sounds cooler its not like my name is LUCIFER THY LORD or I KILL GOATS FOR THE DARKLORD lol it was merely a joke lol i have been studying the Pagan and wiccan Faiths since i was a baby brought up in a house where my mother was A witch and daddy was a pagan :)
atreyujuggalo666 7 months ago
@atreyujuggalo666 At least they got a logical Satanist. /:
RadioActiveImpaler 6 months ago