The Single Payer Bunch

[medlock01]

The rest of the world has single payer because they use US tech and medicines in their countries. Without a free market to innovate Xrays and penicillin will be the 'cutting edge'.

PS. If single payer is so good why did a Canadian PM come to the US for heart surgery?

[monssavmik]

@medlock01 "PS. If single payer is so good why did a Canadian PM come to the US for heart surgery?"

Hahaha, funny how that works out, eh?

[Yakko77]

The President and all these liberal tools want to model out govt run healthcare akin to that which is Europe, the same Europe which is now going bankrupt from all its entitlement spending. Not to worry, there are enough sheeple in this country who feel entitled to what others have earned that we'll get there soon enough. It's just a matter of time. Marx would be proud.

[DTownzz]

This is disturbing when it's all put together like this. It appears to be all about power, and despite the rhetoric of the administration, they are actually breaking healthcare to get more power. They are actually hurting people.

[themaclady]

Gibbs is describing an oxymoron... put competition into the private system? WTF?????

[rdseheult]

The worst possible senario is for Government which has the most to gain from sick people losing their life to usurp the power needed to deny and ration this care to those very people. A single payor system will ensure this monopoly. A vote against the encumbant party this fall will prevent it.

[rkoliver1]

It's Bush's fault!

[mistergarth]

Cool. The best video I've seen supporting the currently proposed, watered-down, compromised-into-nothingness public option. It will lead to single payer! Eventually. We can only hope.

What? The makers of this video are opposed to the public option? Strange. Why do they make such a compelling case for it?

[waypasthadenough]

"Liberal" season must come or we have no future except as slaves to communism...

[leahpr]

This video shows elected officials admitting in private that they have a "sneaky strategy" that will result in the elimination of private health care insurance in America, all the while claiming their intention is to increase competition.

It actually shows them laughing at how cunning they imagine themselve to be.

I don't care what your opinion on public health care, there is no way you can defend what you see in this video!

[leahpr]

When Jacob Hacker laughs at the idea of his public option plan being a "Trojan Horse", because the words "Trojan Horse" imply a hidden objective and, as far as he is concerned, the objective is so obvious that it is "right there!", does this mean the President is technically speaking the truth when he says accusing the plan of being a Trojan Horse is an "illigitimate concern"? Or is he deliberately playing with words with an intent to deceive?

[terpis]

I have a theory:

It means the Jacob Hacker and the President are...follow me here...not the same person. And so they have differing takes on what the public option would have been.

JH apparently saw the not-for-profit risk pooling of Public Option as likely to compete an inefficient for-profit model into a marginal, cottage industry for the rich. BO isn't interested in the long view--he supported (too weakly) the shortrun cost-reducing effects of the 'public v private' market competition.

[leahpr]

Do you agree with Rahm Emanuel that the objective is what's important, and not the means? Even when those means include lying and deception?

Rep. Schakowsky says, "This is not a principled fight. This is a stragegy for getting there." Do you agree that our elected officials should not allow things such as "principles" to put constraints on their strategies for achieving what they want? Do you agree that "truth" is one of the principles they need not adhere to?

(con't)

[VinceP1974]

It's illegal for the Fed Govt to run a health care system.

Notice how these loathsome collectivists dont give a crap about the legitimacy of what the proposal is.

[WhereDidItAllGo7]

RAHMBO...3:28

[amcd12]

The current system is not working. Why don't we focus this discussion on finding the system that promotes the health and well-being of our population, not on the concerns of insurance companies or scare tactics about "government control". I don't see that competition is necessarily helpful in providing health care. It is a service, not a product. The goal should be the best care and sensible cost monitoring for everyone. A single payer system may make that easier.

[1bigbuck44]

Wow Look at the comments from the people who want the Government to interfere with their Doctor- Patient relationship. Stunning. This video proves that POLITICIANS LIE TO US ! This is an AGENDA! They don't care about us. Now, do really you want to let them have control over your health? I know this is a massive TAX increase, and you will become a criminal if you cant afford it- say you lose your job? Now what? Fines? Criminal Charges? SAY NO TO THIS

[maunaowakea777]

I'd much rather have a government run health care system than have the greedy corporations tell me what and when they will cover me. It turns out right now if you come down with a serious illness you have a 50% chance of being dropped by your health isurance. 35% of all bankruptcies in america are from health care bills. there is no justification or reasonable argument against public health care. Just ask a VET (like me) or someone on medicare.

[dipaolom1988]

maunaowakea777 uses made up statistics 25-35% to 73% of the time

[jonnyjmpup]

Medicare procedure refusal rates are TWICE as high as private insurance, and the BIG cuts are still to be made.

[amcd12]

Are you happy with the insurance companies interfering with the doctor-patient relationship? They certainly do that. At least the government is supposed to be accountable to the people. The insurance companies are only accountable to stockholders.

[maunaowakea777]

I fully support a u.s. single payer health system.

the most authorative international study on prosperity is called the Legatum Prosperity Index. they measured economics, education, health, democratic institutions and several others, the U.S. ranked 9th but only because it was 1st in entrepeneurs and democracy. The others were all scandanavian and N. euro countries they were higher because of health, safety and economic fundamentals. All the others have single payer health care. google it

[NotEasilyRegimented]

You should be more modest. You are displaying your ignorance for all the world to see here on Youtube.

[Ed76638]

Seriously, the employer-based system is not good for America. This is the only country that ties health care costs to corporations. And people wonder why the jobs are leaving.

[morgenr]

Single payer is not the only way to move from employer-based insurance. If the Administration wasn't so wed to the President's false "if you like what you have you can keep it claim", then perhaps Sen. Wyden's bill would have been given more consideration. It would have accomplished this as well using a regulated, private insurance market.

[NotEasilyRegimented]

First time in a long time I was excited about Wyden. He was right on. But, he folded like a wallet when chastised by his colleagues in the Senate. So W]den is back where he started as far asIi am conerned.

[bradlionhardt]

Jobs are leaving because the gov. has made it so expensie to have a company here.

Employer based can work if it didn't have a ton of gov. cost past on to the consumers

[Ed76638]

It's simply the natural evolution of events. I can't fucking wait for single payer to happen. These insurance companies are money sucking ghouls and liches that screw people over when they need it the most.

[skidjs]

How is that different from what the Gov does.

[Ed76638]

I'll tell you what's different. At least with the Government you don't have the head administrator taking home a 9 million dollar salary while denying claims. I'll take the government over someone who has a profit incentive to deny me care.

[skidjs]

The cost of re election is much more than 9 million.

[Ed76638]

Come on now. That is just stupid. It really is. You can do better than that.

[skidjs]

Your the one that brought up the monetary incentive.

I guess you're too dim to see the parallel.

CEO's and Politicians are cut from the same cloth.

[jonnyjmpup]

What is the difference between the CEO making $9mil, and 15000 govt employees with pensions and healthcare making on avg about $60K?

[Ed76638]

With the private industry, there's a profit incentive all around to deny claims. They've punished people for being "generous" about approving claims, and vice versa.

[jonnyjmpup]

I REPEAT, Medicare refusal rates are TWICE that of private insurance.

[amcd12]

Where did you get the data for that one?

[CPAsheldon]

Great comments, jonnyjmpup!

I heard it on Fox this morning that more claims are turned down by the government option than private insurers. And you are right that we would pay much more for an army of bureaucrats than whatever excess someone finds by private insurers.

Private industry is not your enemy, it is your friend, Mr. President!

[maunaowakea777]

johnnyjmpup

actually, out of all medicare claims only 0.69% of Medicare claim denials were selective exemptions.

If you simply file a claim with a private insurer you have a 10 percent rate of being kicked off coverage.

If you have a major illness with over 35,000.00 of annual claims your chances of being kicked off coverage goes up to 50%.

get some real facts, google "Patrick_Tuohey_of_BigGovernme­nt to read about why this claim of yours is totally and completely false.

[maunaowakea777]

that is actually a total lie, go to intershame

on patrick tuohey of big government to get the actual breakdown. The medicare claim denials are due to improper paperwork while the private insurance denials are due to kicking people off of their insurance, often after they had paid into it for over 10 years.

[jonnyjmpup]

Believe what you will,but I stand by my claim. BTW my wife is a professional medicare/medicaid biller and sees these denials every day. The govt hopes the Mds will "eat " the claim.

[maunaowakea777]

in addition, you cannot compare medicare vs. private insurance denials simply because the medicare deals with a different client pool, ages 65 or over.

the insurance companies overwhelmingly provide services to people who DO NOT HAVE MEDICARE and people under 65 do not require the same types of treatments.

so the two are not equivalent comparisons.

[amcd12]

What about the difference between health and mortality rates for people with and without health care? A recent study showed that children without insurance who are hospitalized are 60% more likely to die than children who have insurance, probably because they did not care in a timely way because of lack of insurance. I have a good insurance plan. I'm lucky. But good health care shouldn't be a matter of luck.

[CPAsheldon]

Government denies more care than private insurers. You need to encourage more private competition.

[wdcsucks1]

watch this video:

"Soros: China Must Be Part Of The New World Order "

it will freak you out!!!

[WhoRUASlave2]

In FL we have a public option for our home insurance. It has not lead to a single insurer for our home owners insurance. If any thing it has kept cost down & given us more options.

[shera818]

I have been on Citizens several times, I don't think it is a bad option when you need it. However, the issues and problems in the state run insurance option are HUGE. It is 10x the size the state wanted it to be, they don't have the funds to cover a major event. The customer service is non-existent. The state has forced cost down by telling the other companies what they can charge and denying increases, that has nothing to do with Citizens.

[CptMarvelous1]

I am so glad that you petition the government to steal from my family, and give to you and yours.

You should be proud.

[LibertyPen]

superb!

[beethovenqueen]

BRILLIANT VIDEO!

I love the structure and timing.

Damn. The government treating us like infants on OUR DIME. YOU LIE, OBAMA AND CRONIES!!

HOW DO YOUI EXPECT US TO EVER TRUST YOU??!!

[jsruss1961]

I believe you sick socialist scumbags will have a revolution on your hands and other countries will provide material support to the American people in their effort to defeat you socialist elitists.

Better to be Muslim and free than be ruled by sick socialist scum like you all.

[xxdjsethxx]

Thanks for the facepalm

[lmankj]

Good one.

[newsjunkieky]

This administration doesn't care about people's health, it is all about POWER!

People better frickin' wake up and wakeup soon.

[RobtKraft]

Very effective video, well-executed

[megarational]

Keep Obama, throw out the right-wing neo-cons and tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists.

[phximam]

I hate this guy. He lies everytime he opens his fucking mouth. Look at what every one of the Dems say. They want government run healthcare. I think we need to mover away from employer paid insurance. Let us buy insurance across state lines, give us tax breaks that the employers get today. Obama and his crowd are "Progressives" they need to be erradicated. They are all Communists plain and simple.

[jarhead1948]

This bunch of dictators do not care about what we think.

[ChimpBama]

You LIE!

[austinarchibald]

Serum: how could you leave out the Obama-AFLCIO comment?! watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

[miazagora]

Why do liberals want to put insurance companies out of business? Why do they WANT a single payer health care system...why is it so important? I believe they want it. I just don't know why this is such a high priority.

[djbj44]

Fairly simple explanation. More Government control is their objective.

[AnalMart]

Like the other guy said about greater power and control. Also taxpayer funded abortion on demand and pumping lots of money into AIDS treatment/research.

[VinceP1974]

Because the Fed Govt did such a great job with Katrina, they need to run the hospitals.

[stinky125]

Excellent vid...

[mrmatalino]

Well done!

[neokevin3]

liberals lie. Obama lies. Nothing new here.