9/11 - We won't let go at any price! Hero Kenny Johannemann (part 4 of 11)

[TvDIvan]

WTF? Надо наказывать их за это.

[4swordkeeper]

they did it... our own goverment... they are satanic power hungry devils...

But nothing that has been done wont be found out in eternity.

Eternity in hell with the shame of murder.

I guess we should pray for their souls.

I just want to say mister BIG GOVERMENT we know what you did already.

shame shame MURDERERS!!!

[manbeast508]

god let it happen becaused yall not believing in real god !!!

[xhollowbankaix]

Macbrack04

We found Saddam under a hole but can't find a guy in a cave.

[macbrack04]

I am amazed and shocked at the stupidity of the 'conspiracy theorists'......does the fact that the world is under attack from muslims seem so bizarre that you have to find ANY other explanation ???? you are like those who say that Pearl Harbour was faked, man never went to the moon, the holocaust never happened....what is it with your minds that you cant accept the horror of what man can do to fellow man when a 'god' is involved......

[northvillechoir22]

holy shit 4:50, 50 concsecutuve bangs? all of this is about bombs going off right in the building. and tthats what we are thinking is making it fall?

[def4d]

@northvillechoir22 : it is 9:50

[northvillechoir22]

holy shit 4:50

[upplsuckimcool16]

OF COURSE THEY heard EXPLOSIONS there were EXPLOSIONS!!! and the first guy there was some sort of actor i heard........

[zintoit]

OK.. ITS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS 911 WAS A HOAX PERPETRATED BY MANY ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE FBI AND CIA.

NOW THE QUESTION IS HOW TO ENCARCERATE THOSE RESPONSIBLE???

DOESN'T 1ST DEGREE MURDER CARRY A SENTENCE OF EXECUTION?

A LOT OF STOCK TRADERS KNEW ABOUT 911 BEFORE IT HAPPENED. THESE PEOPLE CAN BE FOUND AND QUESTIONED.

WHY HAVEN'T THE BUSH'S BEEN EXECUTED FOR TREASON?

WHY HASN'T LARRY SILVERSTEIN BEEN EXECUTED FOR MURDER?

WHY ARENT A HELL OF A LOT OF CO-CONSPIRATORS IN JAIL?

[upplsuckimcool16]

First of all because no conspiracies were proven or even looked into.... Now to say it was OBVIOUSLY a HOAX is a stretch but I do agree that there AREE some important questions that have NOT been answered!

[Yezpahr]

5:38

THERE'S your clue.

You don't need to see anything else if you are just looking for evidence that YOUR government killed YOUR own people!

Good luck people of America.

I hope your government changes their opinion on having 500 million world citizens and let's us all live.

I hope they quit the fucking chemtrails.

I hope they quit the fucking conspiracy against their own people.

I hope they quit killing and torturing their own people.

I want them to JUST FUCKING QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!

[XxXspacityheroXxX]

This is to mooners40: I was checking out the video links you posted about a month ago, and "they" have removed video -watch?v=Q8f4iA4a4NU- due to violation of terms of use..... Hmmm...

[retoido]

8:04 .....look again at the flashes below

[plasterdbastard]

If you think that the airplanes were inserted into the film for over 100 broadcasting companies, the people who witnessed the aircraft impact were manipulated into thinking that they saw a plane that wasn't there, or that the collapse of those buildings looks like controlled demo you are misinformed.

I realize that to the uneducated (not saying stupid) eye the collapse looks forced and that the explosions say bomb but that's not the case at all. The events of the collapse are scientific fact.

[mooners40]

would that be Bavant's theory? In my opinion 70 odd floors of a building cannot fall through the path of most resistance all the way to the ground without veering off at some point - was the sledgehammer of the upper floors being guided by some unseen grid keeping it on top of the floors below? And the speed at which these floors fell is too great .Little or no resistance is offered by the intact over-engineered lower floors , built to withstand a huge mass. No resistance= controlled demolition

[plasterdbastard]

It's nice to see an intelligent opinion, but you have to remember that the WTC was a redundant structure. The outer shell was comprised of 244 perimeter steel columns that prevented the toppling of the towers.

Individual floors are not built to withstand the weight of the entire structure above. That would be cumbersome and expensive. For the WTC the floors could handle their weight and 1,300tons. Each building was 500,000tons. When the upper structure falls, you have instant failure of floors.

[mooners40]

'prevented the toppling?' why would the upper floors be guided down and not veer off? the upper floor visibly turns to dust , so where is the mass? Instant failure of floors does not account for the destruction of the core - and it wasn't hollow - have you watched the documentary on the construction of the towers? The towers were redundant yes - the lower floors,untouched by any fuel, were always capable of holding up the upper floors - the fuel was not hot enough to cause failure of any sort

[plasterdbastard]

You understand that a redundant structure uses internal support as well as external, yes? The 244 steel columns on the outside of the building served as a secondary structural component that prevented the toppling by acting as a tube/guide.

Individual floors couldn't sustain the weight of multiple floors on top of them. The floor joists were connected to the structure using angle clips.

Simply put, 500,000 tons of building has too much inertia to fall in any direction other than down.

[mooners40]

500,000 tons of building was the weight of the 'sledgehammer'? really? What took out the core? The core structure supported the building and the floors were attached to the core - the computer models of the 'collapse' show us 'falling' floors but an intact core - i understand that a redundant structure uses internal support - nothing accounts for the disappearance of the core. Magic perhaps - like the magical collapse of wtc7 - due to 'fire' - risible nonsense- no plane hit it - no excuses there

[plasterdbastard]

Do you understand how the core functions? It's essentially an internal perimeter of steel columns. What you had with the WTC were two perimeters of steel columns. The internal perimeter and the angle clips of the floor joists were the sources of failure on the buildings.

Mooners, you can believe what you want, but when you don't argue with facts, you're not arguing science. I don't want to argue conspiracy theory or semantics. If you don't have a structural basis for your argument we're done.

[mooners40]

Structural basis? What made wtc7 collapse at free-fall speed? Bin Laden? - look at the world - do you know that the Bush family are business associates of the Bin Laden family and have made millions from contracts garnered from these wars? Bush is connected to the Carlyle group and Halliburton and Cheney was ceo of Halliburton and Brown and Root and was in the CFR - these guys make wars and earn millions as millions die - and Bin Laden was a CIA asset in the CIA created alqaeda mujahadeen

[plasterdbastard]

I'm very aware of what the previous administration had its hands in. You forgot to mention Rumsfeld's associations with various pharmaceutical companies.

There's no doubt that Iraq is a war meant to bring the wealth of American taxpayers into the pockets of corporations, but that's beyond the spectrum of what we're discussing.

The WTC collapse was a result of fire induced structural failure. There were no explosives.

I can't comment on 7 because I haven't studied it.

Read Naomi Klein.

[mooners40]

will she tell me it dropped at free-fall speed symmetrically instantaneously because of a few small fires? I bet Bin Laden did it - that villain - he gets everywhere.

Fire induced structural failure - sounds nice but the temperatures reached by a hydro carbon fire are not enough to cause failure of steel - that's why buildings are built with it - check out the towering infernos that have burned for hours and hours and still stood - the planes caused very little damage

[plasterdbastard]

If you're only going to bring sarcasm and dimwitted replies, move on.

Naomi Klein wrote a book called "The Shock Doctrine" which discusses the Bush government's politics.

Have you done any reading on the engineering behind these structural failures? The fire didn't melt the steel with temperatures only around 650C, it more than likely caused a 40 to 60% strength loss from expansion and then distortion of the steel caused the remaining strength loss due to non-uniform heating of the columns.

[mooners40]

i'll move where i like - and dimwitted i'm not - these buildings explode all over Manhattan and if you think they are 'falling ' then the media brainwashing works - look at the buildings - they turn to dust before your eyes and explode outwards and upwards in a cascade of pulverisation - and if you think that is falling then good luck to you - as i said any loss of strength from the steel , inducing a pancake collapse would not take out the core - and where are the pancakes? what energy did it

[plasterdbastard]

Your critical misunderstanding of how buildings fail is your Achilles heel, representing a desire to look for reasons to discredit the FACT that these attacks were undertaken by terrorists.

The only hypothesis that holds any weight is that the government was aware of these attacks and took no action to stop them. Look at the Mossad agents that were there to "document the event".

The engineering doesn't lie. It's based on scientifice proof.

Unless you believe that global warming is a sham...

[mooners40]

near free fall speed = no resistance = controlled demolition - very simple - and where is the evidence terrorists did it? Based on scientific proof - it's either proof or it isn't . Engineering doesn't lie? The lie is that this over-engineered building collapsed and turned to dust because of a fire - no chance

Your achilles heel is that you believe everything you're told too easily.

How did wtc7 fall? Let me know about that one

[plasterdbastard]

That's a pretty bold statement to make considering there is no evidence to support the theory of controlled demolition. In fact, there are no demolition experts that claim the buildings were brought down using demo, and many demo experts that have examined the evidence and said it was not CD.

Look into Protec's Brent Blanchard.

WTC7 also fell from fire induced structural failure. Look into the testimony of fire fighters on the scene with respect to the damage to the structure.

Again Protec.

[mooners40]

you think wtc7 fell from a fire induced structural failure? What fire do you see? do you see a towering inferno? Many high rises have burned like torches for hours and not collapsed - perhaps if you looked into it you might have a different opinion - and some demolition experts think it is cd. Huge dust clouds , rapid symmetrical collapse, straight down at near free fall speed, or in the case of wtc7 free fall speed - all characteristics of cd.

[plasterdbastard]

I grow tired of being the only one doing legitimate research in this conversation.

I did look into WTC 7, and it looks like a failure associated with an upper floor was allowed to collapse the building due to structural damage to lower floors.

Huge dust clouds are characteristic of a lot of things. A rapid symettrical collapse? Are you retarded? The upper floors shattered as they fell. The size of these buildings meant that the inertia of the upper floors could go nowhere BUT down. Explained.

[mooners40]

an upper floor collapsed? if you think that building dropped for that reason then you are retarded - no buildings fall like this - for a reason - none have ever fallen like this - i grow tired of morons who don't read books and think that their government actually cares about them and doesn't lie - and who believe everything the t.v. tells them . Inertia of the upper floors? what inertia ? are you mad? It's called gravity - by the way - it's not moving til the structural supports are removed

[plasterdbastard]

You grow tired of morons? I have a degree in engineering. You have what?

I'll bet you didn't invest 5 years into learning about physics and the known world; you picked up a lie produced by children and lechers.

No buildings fall like this? That's flat out untrue. The fact that buildings fall like this is what we exploit in CD. When doing CD, you try not to cause and explosion that will counter this natural fall by offsetting the inertia.

What was the last non-fiction book you read?

[mooners40]

show me other buildings that fall symmetrically at free fall speed - you're an engineer? God help us - watch?v=n1HUnULzDS8 maybe you could watch this and tell me your objections to it. I read a lot of books. All non- fiction. Try reading 'Propaganda' bernays, Crossing the rubicon' Ruppert, 'the new pearl harbour revisited' griffin, 'the towers of deception' zwicker, alice in wonderland and the world trade centre' icke, 'inside job' marrs,

[plasterdbastard]

Okay, I've written them down and I'll hit the library next week.

I'm loading the videos as we speak and I'll give them a watch.

Look, I think you're an intelligent person. You use strong English and you aren't claiming, like some assholes, that the FDNY was in on the conspiracy.

I applaud your desire to not simply digest what the media feeds you in these days, but I have to say that I disagree with the pseudo-engineering that I see presented by "skeptics".

I apologize if I've seemed jaded.

[mooners40]

most people don't read anything about it or watch any documentaries and then tell me that there is no evidence - so you're the first i've heard want to read anything - i hope you do - all the best to you

[mooners40]

Pearl harbour was manipulated and FDR knew it was gonna happen and withheld info - fact - JFK was not killed by Oswald - fact - Gulf of tonkin incident did not happen , yet precipitated the vietnam war - how many died?The Murrah building was not bombed by Mcveigh alone - fact - 9/11 is the latest lie - this one is to allow america to control world oil- it's the excuse - and if you look at it every bit is a lie - start to finish - and those who killed jfk are still in control

[plasterdbastard]

You can't simply claim fact and expect people to accept it.

I understand the desire to champion the underdog, but there is overwhelming evidence to suggest you are wrong.

America already controlled world oil, and if they wanted to make a difference to further that control, why not a move against Venezuela? Why allow for the oil contracts in Iraq to go to UK and Chinese companies?

You need to read a book instead of claiming that everyone else does. Start with Naomi Klein and think for yourself

[plasterdbastard]

Have you seen the structural damage to WTC 7 that was caused during the collapse of the North Tower? The NYFD pulled their people to keep from losing anyone in another collapse. They reported creaking and heaving.

For the fire and structural damage:

watch?v=rzVlSnFsn9A&feature=re­lated

Do you see the large chunk of the North Tower leaning against the side of it?

Dust clouds? Do you understand the concept of volumetric displacement? The Archimedes principle? Antyhing this large will make one.

[mooners40]

when a building disappears and there is nothing but dust do you think it just fell?

watch?v=X5iTTHDet_8

watch?v=i7BSt9jhxPQ

watch?v=Q8f4iA4a4NU

[mooners40]

maybe you should watch the wtc7 'fire-induced collapse' and see what you think

watch?v=IiAeWHkrPCg

[1min2thenext]

mabye the film has been doctored the other way and the plain has been removed??? check at 2:19

[jjmurph22290]

I can't believe people still think this was done by terrorists...

[ThatUJohnWayne]

I still can't believe people think the government did it, that theyre still getting dooped by Alex Jones and Dan Avery.

[jsm1113]

look at evidence.

[DopeMC209]

Pause at 1:10

That wasn't caused by the planes crash at the top of the building

That's the response of a pre set bomb

[DopeMC209]

Maybe that was the work of those terrorists too... hardy har

[plasterdbastard]

That's a large statement.

When a bomb detonates it expels force in all directions (unless it's a shaped charge). The result you have is a blast wave that pushes things out, not a plume of smoke (unless the bomb has ordinance that wasn't exploded on ignition eg. large military munitions). So in this instance there would have been an explosion of debris, not smoke.

The most probable cause of the plume exiting the side of the building is a pressure breach from the collapse of the floor(s) above.

[luvmyctd]

@plasterdbastard We have no idea yet of the type of technology that was used to bring those 3 buildings down on 9/11. The only thing we know for certain is they did not just collapse ... they were brought down by the "perpe-traitors" of 9/11 and it was an inside job.

[plasterdbastard]

@luvmyctd

On the contrary, we understand quite well how aircraft work. We also know that Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the attacks.

The only "inside job" is the individuals that have made the conspiracy videos you believe in, with the intention of making money. The "Loose Change" chumps have made ridiculous amounts of money by exploiting your fears.

The reality is that "Loose Change" has been refuted time and time again because it's WRONG.

Give these people peace, for fuck's sake.

[luvmyctd]

@plasterdbastard This is how narrow minded & ignorant you "sheep" are ... you always refer to the videos. I could give a shit about these videos ... try reading for crying out loud. The evidence is overwhelming ... it was an inside job, that much is not even in question anymore. And if you had done any reading or any real research you would know that this is all about the victims of this heinous crime ... the survivors know the "official story" is bullshit & they want answers!! You are hopeless

[plasterdbastard]

@luvmyctd

I'm hopeless?

You've made allusions to proof that you've failed to provide. You've gone after a statement I made with respect to how explosives work in controlled demolition and tried to say that I should "read" because that's where this supposed evidence exists? What evidence are you tabling to refute what I said, or are you just trolling my post from hoping that you'll encounter some dimwitted republican?

Grow up, muppet; Make an argument or leave posts from the past in the past.

[luvmyctd]

@plasterdbastard There is no past when it comes to 9/11, dickhead. You call me a muppet when you get your so-called "evidence" from mainstream corporate-controlled media ... Al Qaeda admitted to the attacks ... yeah right, pffft. Go back to your CNN or FOX or whatever it is get your "truth" from.

And yeah, you are hopeless. Just the same, good luck.

[upplsuckimcool16]

It's not in question that it WAS NOT an inside job... I haven't really heard anything to indicate that "without question this was an inside job"

Having said that there are questions I WOULD like answered that have NOT been but to say it's not even a question is just... well dumb.

[jmecrg]

@luvmyctd thermite........it is a powder form that burns at 2000 *F........ they found it in the remains of the building

[luvmyctd]

@jmecrg Yes I am well aware of the reported "thermite" found in the remains ... I'm saying we have no idea the technology they possess as these buildings were not demolished with your run of the mill incendiaries alone. There was more to it I believe and part of the reason the evidence was shipped away before it could be examined .

[iddyism]

@jmecrg Lol, do you know how silly that sounds. Looking at the weight of the towers you must need about 1500kg of thermite or more, why didn't anyone notice and all off these are eyewitness accounts from traumatized people. Not very convincing.

[jmecrg]

@iddyism our goverment will hire criminals to commit crimes .....maby in your world your perception of our world is perfect......but here in the real world ...1500kg could be carried into the buildings by criminals dressed as construction workers .if a 10 man crew each carried 20kg in a bucket evry morning .it would take 7.5 days most all your construction jobs are gona be alot longer than that. I can understand your thinking b/c you are a good person with good intentions .believe it or not..

[jmecrg]

@iddyism and for these eyewitness accounts .i`ve heard sevral say they heard explosions before the buildings fell.....and thermite doesnt blow up it burns hot so maby they only carried 500kg of thermite and 1000kg of explosives

[nycgroove1]

@jmecrg You ARE aware that two full size commercial jets crashed into the towers prior to them collapsing? If no planes crashed into them, then maybe you might have some credibility.

[jmecrg]

@nycgroove1 yes i am aware of this are you aware our gov. had alot of prior knowledge of this and ran emergency drills up to 5 months b4 it happened .....ask any pilot what would happen if they were to even atempt this ........then ask....why did dick channey have control of norad that day

[TruRevolution]

It was done by terrorist, terrorist in the white house.

[daviduk40]

Total inside job - I can't believe I ever accepted otherwise, which I did until about 2006. Wake up world!!!

[mariduru]

911 inside necoons cia illumaniti job

let that be know for the record

[jay69bell8]

look at the mysterious fucking bombs/plumes of smoke going off at 4:13 and 4:19 before the building even falls yet. how can you explain this? unbelievable how obvious this is.

[vanhadyz]

why have I heard like 4 people all use the same story of pulling a guy out of an elevator with his skin hangin off. Seriously word for word I have seen 3 or more people use that same story.

[jfragghianti]

Flaming jet fuel raced down the elevator shafts following the plane crashes, scorching the poor people in those areas. Read The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffin. It is the Bible of the government complicity theory. THE TRUE PERPETRATORS OF THIS CRIME WILL FACE JUSTICE.

[blackfootnawaho]

of course they say its an explosion because it rumbles when the building collapses. they did not associate it with a colapse because people never expected the towers to colapse! its just psychological reasons that makes all the people say i heard an explosion! but i know u will not believe what i say because u dont want to.

[ezfla]

the fox news guy says "before the collapse there was a HUGE explosion that 1st we heard then we FELT"you cant feel the concusion wave of the collapse at that height,but you can FEEL the explosion.watch the movie zeitgeist,911 mysteries and most importantly google video william rodriquez.he gives speaches all over the world about massive sub basement explosions BEFORE the planes hit.

[veryfuck]

8.04-8.11 offcours its confusing what they mean. some people whill point to the plane hitting hit others would mean a demolition rumble.

you cant deny this i clearly can see flashes going out of the building when collapsing

watch from 8.04-8.11.

you cant convice me that that are not flashes from explosives in the building.

[JACQUIinSC]

Alice,

I'm Kenny's sister and I wanted to thank you for the video dedicated to him. It made me cry. He had people around who cared for him that he didn't realize were there. He was so affected that day and the images never left his head. I'm so sad that he never found the help he needed and hope that he can finally sleep peacefully now. We brought Papa Boy (Kenny's cat) home and he's doing well, frightened but getting better. Again, thank you.

With My Deepest Respect,

Jacqueline

[LambadLambadLambda]

Do you think the government may have murdered him?

[JACQUIinSC]

NO, I think his landlord pushed him to do the unthinkable. He was throwing him out for being a month late on his rent and came in the night before threatening him with a bat. If I blame anyone, I blame the landlord. From the day Kenny killed himself he was pushing the family to get his "stuff" out of the apartment so he could move on and rent the apartment. He's a heartless man that was forcing him out without an eviction notice on a Sunday night! As depressed as Kenny was - he saw no way out.

[KBJCDJ0313]

Jacqueline, First of all my deepest sympathy, You are so right. Please write me so we can talk privately. The landlord is the reason.

[BrodyLuv2]

Both you and KBJCDJ0313 are lying .....Why are you lying??....everyone look at there profiles and realise that these two "people" are working together.

[JACQUIinSC]

Are you nuts? He was my brother why would I lie to protect the government if I believed they had something to do with his death! Go ahead and believe what you want about Bush and the assholes in charge - I'm not saying they didn't know about the planes but don't you dare pull my brother down with them!

[BrodyLuv2]

Well Misses JAQUlinSC...the problem i have i suppose it that judging from your words i just didnt' belive the in validity that he was your Brother...If he was i am truly sorry ....His death must be a big loss for you and your family and for the validation of the 9/11 truth movement...like i said im sorry i just dont' belive he was your relative and im confused as to why you would say you are..? IF you are,again,im sorry..but it just seems you are telling porkiepies... And yes it was an insidejob

[ivmar1]

great dedicace, thanks for sharing alice!

[countrylady2856]

I remember it so well. I was at work that day and someone at work said her brother was there and she was so worried.

[sandyanna]

A lesson learned the hard way Don't Take Freedom for Granted. Peace,Sandy Day

[PRINCFETH]

really sorry for those innocent poeple!!!

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

We are all STILL NEW YORKERS. God bless.

Ms. LaReina