@TheBlueConch Progressive scum of your ilk will not destroy America. Watch what happens asshole.We will eliminate all human garbage like you before you touch a hair on REAL Americans' heads. Torture is a good thing ; it wil cleanse the populationAnd FYI that includes democrats, republicans and the admnistration all at once . It is time for revolution and anarchy . NO GOVERNMENT IS THE BEST GOVERNMENT
Ben mentioned Pelosi could have 409 seats and question if she has the votes. I said months ago that the dems could lose a legislative battle with the entire House and 99 seats in the Senate.
When Congress and presidential family gets the EXACT SAME "health care reform" that "they" are trying to jam down our throat, I will shill for it all day.
Fucking irritating. They're actually using stall tactics to avoid voting on things so they can mask what they would vote for, because they know it goes against what the people want.
Public option will never exist in this country! We need President Sarah Palin to completely kill off all of Obambi's healthcare reform and ensure that government stays out of it. The government has no role in healthcare and Palin will ensure that it remains completely privatized. She will also privatize Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Unemployment and all liberal social programs as a way to completely cut excessive govt. spending!
I would love to believe you, but can you post a reply with a link to this page so that I jump in joy to celebrate this? You have no idea how much it would make my day if the bill does, in fact, contain the public option.
@dragonflychainsaw well, the medical practices are much better than in the dark ages, but I guess it's so expensive, that sawing your leg off with a jigsaw is still the best solution.
Something that isn't coming across strongly is what public option are we talking about? Are we talking real public option (the option to buy into medicare), or private mandate (the requirement to buy private if you can't get it through the normal avenue)?
I like these guys, but I feel like they are too half assed. What are they really fighting for? Don't fight for an almost that could very well be worse than we have now.
I want to see progressives opposing the mandate, and I'm not seeing it.
@TheGiantRobot the public option is the medicare buyin, or a buy in to a different government program. The private mandate is what they have in Massachussetts.
Public option is just another compromise. We had it in Australia for about five minutes and then brought in single payer.
The first public option was only open to those who couldn't get insurance. It wasn't public nor an option. You would be lotteried to a random private insurance company but pay higher rates than normal. Same thing they do with high risk drivers who need auto insurance.
I'm not hearing support of Grayson's Public Option Act. That's what I want to hear.
That's good. I know most progressives and liberals support it, I mean I'm not hearing it in this interview or the videos Bold Progressives just released.
@styrofoamheart I know Alan Grayson. He is a filthy piece of human waste. A lying scumbag who will "live" in poverty and fear the rest of his life. Too many out there want to off him . It will happen eventually
@dangerouslytalented "We had it in Australia for about five minutes and then brought in single payer." this must be why the insurance lobby sees it as a death nail.
As you say, Public Option and Medicare Buy-In is already a compromise, not the "uber leftist" position that retarded right wing media makes it out to be. That's why Obama instead of saying "Let's have a public option" at the start of his precidency and then compromise from there should have said "let's have single payer" and then compromise into the public option.
Then change it to single payer five minutes after.
@TheBlueConch Progressive scum of your ilk will not destroy America. Watch what happens asshole.We will eliminate all human garbage like you before you touch a hair on REAL Americans' heads. Torture is a good thing ; it wil cleanse the populationAnd FYI that includes democrats, republicans and the admnistration all at once . It is time for revolution and anarchy . NO GOVERNMENT IS THE BEST GOVERNMENT
biggerturtle 11 months ago
Ben mentioned Pelosi could have 409 seats and question if she has the votes. I said months ago that the dems could lose a legislative battle with the entire House and 99 seats in the Senate.
trajan74 2 years ago
When Congress and presidential family gets the EXACT SAME "health care reform" that "they" are trying to jam down our throat, I will shill for it all day.
MORONS OR SHILLS
bigc028282 2 years ago
Go Virginia! We may have a dipshit, sellout, Pug governor, but our senators rock.
aaronsande 2 years ago
Fucking irritating. They're actually using stall tactics to avoid voting on things so they can mask what they would vote for, because they know it goes against what the people want.
Shisho2k 2 years ago
Public option will never exist in this country! We need President Sarah Palin to completely kill off all of Obambi's healthcare reform and ensure that government stays out of it. The government has no role in healthcare and Palin will ensure that it remains completely privatized. She will also privatize Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Unemployment and all liberal social programs as a way to completely cut excessive govt. spending!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
@ecwaufisxtreme don't forget about the military.
1tofallen 2 years ago
@1tofallen we are on our way ... they are those little things they call "contractors" you know like Blackwater
smdiddy 2 years ago
@ecwaufisxtreme
Sarah Palin will only be good for porn!
nyznicca 2 years ago 3
man, public option just doesn't die, huh? Must be something really good, when it cannot be killed by the establishment. ^^
If they can pass a good public option now I really wonder what was going on the last 6 to 8 months...
P1ranh4 2 years ago
The RECONCILIATION BILL has been posted and IT DOES INCLUDE the PUBLIC OPTION
lynchmobb2000 2 years ago 4
I would love to believe you, but can you post a reply with a link to this page so that I jump in joy to celebrate this? You have no idea how much it would make my day if the bill does, in fact, contain the public option.
MrFolds24 2 years ago
Where was it posted?
DrQuijano 2 years ago
@lynchmobb2000 Where can I see that?
And, as hopeful as I'm getting, just wait for Obama and his line item veto =/
aaronsande 2 years ago
LINK MAN GOD DAMIT LINK
bangurdead102 2 years ago
we are hopeful so lets get it done maybe we can finally come out of the dark ages
dragonflychainsaw 2 years ago 2
We need more than that to come out of the dark ages. Whiny conservative baby boomers and their brainwashed offspring need to die off or stop voting.
NuLLx42 2 years ago
@dragonflychainsaw well, the medical practices are much better than in the dark ages, but I guess it's so expensive, that sawing your leg off with a jigsaw is still the best solution.
P1ranh4 2 years ago
Something that isn't coming across strongly is what public option are we talking about? Are we talking real public option (the option to buy into medicare), or private mandate (the requirement to buy private if you can't get it through the normal avenue)?
I like these guys, but I feel like they are too half assed. What are they really fighting for? Don't fight for an almost that could very well be worse than we have now.
I want to see progressives opposing the mandate, and I'm not seeing it.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
@TheGiantRobot They are so bullied and so cowed that they think that THIS is all they can get.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
@TheGiantRobot the public option is the medicare buyin, or a buy in to a different government program. The private mandate is what they have in Massachussetts.
Public option is just another compromise. We had it in Australia for about five minutes and then brought in single payer.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
The first public option was only open to those who couldn't get insurance. It wasn't public nor an option. You would be lotteried to a random private insurance company but pay higher rates than normal. Same thing they do with high risk drivers who need auto insurance.
I'm not hearing support of Grayson's Public Option Act. That's what I want to hear.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
@TheGiantRobot i support Grayson's Public Option.
styrofoamheart 2 years ago
That's good. I know most progressives and liberals support it, I mean I'm not hearing it in this interview or the videos Bold Progressives just released.
TheGiantRobot 2 years ago
@styrofoamheart I know Alan Grayson. He is a filthy piece of human waste. A lying scumbag who will "live" in poverty and fear the rest of his life. Too many out there want to off him . It will happen eventually
biggerturtle 11 months ago
@dangerouslytalented "We had it in Australia for about five minutes and then brought in single payer." this must be why the insurance lobby sees it as a death nail.
styrofoamheart 2 years ago
@dangerouslytalented
OH NOES! So THAT'S how everyone in Australia died overnight!
dEdGrimley 2 years ago
As you say, Public Option and Medicare Buy-In is already a compromise, not the "uber leftist" position that retarded right wing media makes it out to be. That's why Obama instead of saying "Let's have a public option" at the start of his precidency and then compromise from there should have said "let's have single payer" and then compromise into the public option.
Then change it to single payer five minutes after.
DrQuijano 2 years ago
The Far Right would have shouted "communist" no matter what he did, even if he allowed the healthcare corporations write the bill themselves.
Which they largely did anyway.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago 2