Wife and I had a cracking run one sunday from Euston to either Wilmslow or Macclesfield (can't rememeber which one) in about 1998. Very lightly loaded train, had a carriage virtually to ourselves. The driver wasn't hangin around - one of my best HST runs,
Would have run at 110 maximum at that was top linespeed at the time, no EPS limits or bloody balises......
A question for any1 who knows: Back then on the WCML 90's/87's/86's would have been limited to 110mph, but could the HST's still do 125mph, or were they limited to 110mph as well.
@rachaelmatt No they were limited to 110mph. It wasn't until the upgrade work for the Pendo's and tilting that any part of the WCML was authorised for 125mph running.
@rachaelmatt I know this is probably a bit late but before the introduction of the pendolinos and voyagers, max speed on WCML was 110. It was only with the introduction of the EPS that trains could do 125 otherwise the journey would have been severely uncomfortable for passengers. So even HSTs were stuck at 110
Cool Video! I Think Virgin Trains Should Have Kept The HST's And Just Of Changed Them Into Their New Livery Because It Would Look Way Better And Thay Are Way Longer Than The 5 Car Voyagers!
Great video m8! I miss the Virgin HST's, they were soooo much better than the Voyagers. I dont like them, only 4 coaches long, 3 standard class and 1 first class, or an extra standard coach on the super voyagers. Bring back the HST's!! 5/5
Well, yes I agree that 123 should have buffers so it can't be that leading. However, the clearest but still blurred still frame suggests a 2 as the second last digit on the leading loco. I was reliant on my mate for reading the numbers so he must have got it wrong, but it should be 157 on the rear!
123 has buffers (now with grand central) people may be confused about the numbers 157 which hasnt got buffers (now with crosscountry) renamed 357 157 is in the front and 123 in the back basically 157 hasnt got buffers and 123 has simple as that!
No Matty it may not be that simple. We both agree that it's not 43123 on the front but, as my mate may have read the number wrongly, it could be another 43 in the range 120 through 129 on the front rather than just saying 157 is on the front and 123 on the back.
Not a problem - out of interest do you know which class 43's were working the WCML at that time? I'll also see if my mate has still got his original records as the same combination may well have gone down earlier in the day whilst we were there.
i miss them so much. roll next year when we see hst proto with a valenta woooo
BREGmatt 2 months ago
Woot! Love this, thank you!
clusterfak 6 months ago
great video nice to hear 43123(Valenta 1972-2010) at full pelt
resigamer17 1 year ago
Wife and I had a cracking run one sunday from Euston to either Wilmslow or Macclesfield (can't rememeber which one) in about 1998. Very lightly loaded train, had a carriage virtually to ourselves. The driver wasn't hangin around - one of my best HST runs,
Would have run at 110 maximum at that was top linespeed at the time, no EPS limits or bloody balises......
LordLemsip 1 year ago
PROPER diesel traction, unlike those bloody Virgin Vomitors that replaced them!
86501freightliner 1 year ago
@86501freightliner Agreed. I regularly travel from Euston to Crewe and voyagers are too small and uncomfortable.
gtaftw2 1 year ago
good vid mate. i miss the valenta engine
HSTgreat 2 years ago
Thanks!
wellowvids 1 year ago
A question for any1 who knows: Back then on the WCML 90's/87's/86's would have been limited to 110mph, but could the HST's still do 125mph, or were they limited to 110mph as well.
rachaelmatt 2 years ago
I guess they would have been limited to line speed. I don't know if there was any in excess of 110mph at that time.
wellowvids 2 years ago
@rachaelmatt No they were limited to 110mph. It wasn't until the upgrade work for the Pendo's and tilting that any part of the WCML was authorised for 125mph running.
toady446 2 years ago
@rachaelmatt I know this is probably a bit late but before the introduction of the pendolinos and voyagers, max speed on WCML was 110. It was only with the introduction of the EPS that trains could do 125 otherwise the journey would have been severely uncomfortable for passengers. So even HSTs were stuck at 110
gtaftw2 1 year ago
Cool Video! I Think Virgin Trains Should Have Kept The HST's And Just Of Changed Them Into Their New Livery Because It Would Look Way Better And Thay Are Way Longer Than The 5 Car Voyagers!
5 Stars
Video 395
video395 2 years ago
Great video.
navmantogo 2 years ago
Great Video :-)
5*****
Metrolinkvideo 2 years ago
Brilliant video!!!
MWCRail 2 years ago
this has always been my favourite livery for the 125 fantastic video
SNAKEMAN742 2 years ago
Thanks I like valentas
TheLincoln37 2 years ago
they have brought the hsts back and at full length :D:D:D:D:D
prineessemma 2 years ago
ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhh my ears. beasttttttt. mtus will try to beat that??
2TEG 2 years ago
Great video m8! I miss the Virgin HST's, they were soooo much better than the Voyagers. I dont like them, only 4 coaches long, 3 standard class and 1 first class, or an extra standard coach on the super voyagers. Bring back the HST's!! 5/5
slr0084 2 years ago
great video
supremedalek24 2 years ago
One word to describe all Valenta HSTs in this video - WOW! Great selection for this video.
I do wish Virgin kept them for the Anglo-Welsh services instead of replacing them with the much shorter Voyagers.
doodlecheesebug2 2 years ago
Amazing. The sound of a Valenta is quite comforting as long as you know its not going to crash into you! 5 stars
LondonTransportFan69 2 years ago
43068 sounding fantastic as always 5*****
TheXtremeEnthusiast 3 years ago
Awesome! 5*
StefanStanescu 3 years ago
Thanks!
wellowvids 3 years ago
Ace sound, thanks for sharing.
ValentaLamenter 3 years ago
Many thanks Tim
wellowvids 3 years ago
This is a superb video,top class soundtrack!
Jonnyvalenta 3 years ago
Cheers!
wellowvids 3 years ago
awesome vid mate
TheXtremeEnthusiast 3 years ago
delticmatt (2TEG) yet again letting as all know what he thinks of MTU's! do we need to know anymore? lol
TheXtremeEnthusiast 3 years ago
one word beastssssssssssssss. no mtu crap in them days hahahaha
2TEG 3 years ago
Truly great!
voxley19 3 years ago
Thanks Ian!
wellowvids 3 years ago
Great Vid
No1RailwayEnthusiast 3 years ago
Go Buffered HST's! Priceless footage, nice one!
rorymacve 3 years ago
HSTs as they should be, right line and right engine! 5*
Woolybak8 3 years ago
Absolutely quality!
stephensrailways 3 years ago
great video. like this!
5*+fav
truckduck065 3 years ago
some great hst action their mate great vid as normal 5
1adamstephen 3 years ago
great video,brought back memories of when we got virgin HST`s on the WCML in the north west
bikerarni 3 years ago
Cheers for those mate good old days
Lukeashley2323 3 years ago
Thanks - only seems like yesterday that I was recording it!
wellowvids 3 years ago
Brilliant video as always Derek, thanks and compliments of the season to you and your family..5*...Bob
robmasterman 3 years ago
Thanks Bob and, likewise, Merry Christmas to you and your family, Derek
wellowvids 3 years ago
excellant mate!
scottishrailways 3 years ago
they were the best
banburyplanthire 3 years ago
2nd hst is 43157 first then 123 last
class43matty 3 years ago
Well, yes I agree that 123 should have buffers so it can't be that leading. However, the clearest but still blurred still frame suggests a 2 as the second last digit on the leading loco. I was reliant on my mate for reading the numbers so he must have got it wrong, but it should be 157 on the rear!
wellowvids 3 years ago
123 has buffers (now with grand central) people may be confused about the numbers 157 which hasnt got buffers (now with crosscountry) renamed 357 157 is in the front and 123 in the back basically 157 hasnt got buffers and 123 has simple as that!
class43matty 3 years ago
No Matty it may not be that simple. We both agree that it's not 43123 on the front but, as my mate may have read the number wrongly, it could be another 43 in the range 120 through 129 on the front rather than just saying 157 is on the front and 123 on the back.
wellowvids 3 years ago
oh ok im just helping ya thats all
class43matty 3 years ago
Humble Pie time - I've checked the stills on the original video and the rear loco is buffered. Thanks for pointing it out!
wellowvids 3 years ago
Not a problem - out of interest do you know which class 43's were working the WCML at that time? I'll also see if my mate has still got his original records as the same combination may well have gone down earlier in the day whilst we were there.
wellowvids 3 years ago
Superb as usual and cheddington even better!
NXEA90003 3 years ago
Thanks!
wellowvids 3 years ago
awesome! one of the best vids I've seen! 5/5 and favouriting!!!!
loonies125 3 years ago
Thanks!
wellowvids 3 years ago
Another well deserved 5*, faviorited!
Woolybak8 3 years ago
Cheers!
wellowvids 3 years ago