As an Orthodox myself, I respect this Elder's zeal, but I think we need to stop anathematizing people, making salvific pronouncements on others, and humbly remember that GOD, in His absolute freedom, decides who will be saved and who will not be saved. We humans cannot set limits on His Divine freedom. God's offer of salvation is open to every human being, without any exception whatsoever. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son...
"They are anathematized... Ecumenical Councils have decided, because it wasn't done either by you or me. We cannot guarantee their salvation" QED
I would suggest you follow the Church and the Holy Fathers and not your own interpretation. What Church do you belong to? Are you a cradle Orthodox or a convert?
@Capitanul9603 Or when the Eastern Orthodox abandon nationalism and re-unite with the See of St. Peter, who has universal jurisdiction. Rome is apostolic, Constantinople is not.
@Capitanul9603 Orthodoxy does not recognise the Authority of St. Peter, which is apostolic. The early saints recognised the authority of the Roman Pontiff. He is not simply 'another Bishop'. Read the writings of St. Maximus the Confessor.
@Capitanul9603 That is doctrinal development. The Orthodox refuse to believe any other ecumenical councils, which clarified belief and let better understanding take place.
@Capitanul9603 Wrong! Ecumenical Councils are those which the Pope, the Bishop of Rome, is present. It does not have to be accepted by the whole Church. That is a logical fallacy, the Church has never been fully agreeing with each other! The first seven councils were largely used to fight Arianism, which had it's hold on a huge amount of Christians!
PARINTELE A PLECAT LA CERURI SA SE ROAGE PENTRU NOI.ACUM 3 SAPTAMANI CAND M-AM INTALNIT CU PARINTELE ARSENIE , ERA DOAR FIZIC PE PAMANT, M-A BINECUVANTAT , DAR OCHII LUI ERAU DEPARTE SI ZAMBEA TOT TIMPUL.M-A INVREDNICIT DUMNEZEU SA-L VAD SI STIU CA EL SE VA RUGA SA AJUGA ROMANIA ACOLO UNDE SE CUVINE SA FIE.TRAISCA ROMANIA ADEVARATA : A LUI ARSENIE PAPACIOC, A LUI IUSTIN PARVU , A LUI ADRIAN FAGETEANU!!!!
comentarii....comantarii.....una este Biserica,cea Ortodoxa unde se respecta totul asa cum trebuie dogmele si Sfintele Taine.pe unii ii supara ca nu-s in adevar si atunci imediat ies la atac.Toti avem pacate si ne luptam cu ispitele.Nu aveti voi treaba cu altii,raportati-va la voi insiva tot timpul.PUNETI-VA LA PUNCT ASA CUM TREBUIE CU TRAIREA DUHOVNICEASCA .
i will never understand it... we protestants are just doing whats written in the bible and they call us heretics and say we'll burn in hell although they consider the bible as holy as well...
@ioancasian Jesus Christ said "whoever believes in me will be saved!"... he never said "you have to be a member of the Orthodox Church in order to be saved!", but thats what this priest says, he is adding something to the words of the Bible that is not in there and calls the people heretics who do not do such a thing...
@BlackBunch: You're misconstruing Theology here. Christ created One Church through Peter and that One Church is the Orthodox Church to this day. This One Church preaches, practices and is guided by the Holy Spirit.
@BlackBunch basically without the enlightment of the holy spirit no one can truly understand he holy bible. Why is it so that there are so many protestant churches. theres only one truth if think about it. Yet all prostestant churches have interpreted the holy bible however they wanted. I read many stories of protestants turning to orthodoxy and I must say.. if you want read this book: Thirsting for God n a Land of Shallow Wells
@BlackBunch You don't have the Holy tradition. You don't know what is Gods word. You don't understand what true Christianity is. The Holy tradition is the word of the living God, which we follow. You protestants only follow your own words, because you read the bible and follow what YOU think is right. But do you really know what is objectivly true? No. That is why you cannot read the bible and interpret it YOUR way. God himself, tought us what is true and so we follow Him, the truth.
@BlackBunch It doesn't matter what your confession says as long as in your heart you know that it must be wrong. All confession pretend that their religion is good, but not all can touch your soul. There are many ways for the Bible interpretation.
By embracing ecumenism Patriarch Irinej along with other pawns in the SOC namely Atanasije Jevtic and Amfilohihije Radovic have embraced a belief in conflict with the teachings of “true” Christianity which is the Holy Eastern Orthodox Church
The Nicene Creed states the Orthodox Church's dogmatic basis, "I believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I believe in one baptism." Ecumenism rejects these fundamental truths of the church by teaching that there are many churches and many baptisms.
The beliefs of ecumenism and the beliefs of Orthodoxy are mutually exclusive. You can either believe in the Creed or you can believe in ecumenism, NOT BOTH.
ce zice la minutul 1:13 ii cel mai mare adevar - ei nu pot sa ne garanteze mantuirea, numai Isus poate - sa nu-mi spuna mie ca unuia - care ii bautor, isi bate nevasta, bea si banii pe care ii primesc copii de la stat, merge duminica la slujba si se marturiseste si ia cuminecatura, apoi de luni incepe cu aceleasi lucruri - ii poate garanta mantuirea
@ioancasian pai eu inteleg foarte bine ce zice, ca sectantilor (inclusiv mie) nu le garanteaza mantuirea, dar din asta inteleg cum le poate garanta mantuirea "bunilor ortodocsi" care numai buni nu sunt (dupa cum i-am descris mai inainte)
lucrul asta este cel mai cu "clenci", ca, dupa cum scrie si in Sfanta Scriptura, multi au zis "Doamne, Doamne" si nu au fost mantuiti - poate totusi ca asta se refera la cei ca mine si nu la drept-credinciosii care sunt cam lumesti?
Puteti extrapola in ce directie doriti dar subiectul e clar, se poate obtine mantuirea in afara Bisericii? Mai exact, in lipsa Duhului Sfant, a botezului, a Euharistiei, samd?
Noi ortodocsii intr-adevar suntem pacatosi, Mantuitorul pentru noi a venit, pentru cei bolnavi.
mi-ati sters comentariile din cauza limbajului meu? pai de ce nu scoate-ti video-ul din cauza limbajului sau? Daca ati trai in Germania sau in Franta, nici nu ati avea permisiunea sa publicati un asemenea "Interviu"! Sa va fie rusine! Pacat ca Biserica Ortodoxa nu ia masuri! Oare BO nu are Drept Canonic prin care sa va tina sub control? Si va mai rog ceva: nu ma luati cu asemenea cuvinte mangaietoare, ca am fost si eu in manastire ani de zile si va cunosc naravu!
Nu trebuie sa va pierdeti cumpatul, puteti sa argumentati. Nu ma mira ca in "lumea libera" adevarul este interzis, iti trebuie permisiune sa-l marturisesti! Parintii duhovnicesti ne-au avertizat ca ce vine dupa comunism va fi mai rau.
@exlyon I respect all confession i don't hate anyone i just like to tell you that the priest knows more than you imagine about your church!!!! Orthodoxy is the most ancient church after ISUS CRISTOS being the withness of your decision to divide with the eastern church.ITS A LOGIC TO KNOW WHY THE CATHOLICS LIKED TO DIVIDE WITH US.FOR YOU ITS DIFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ABOUT SPEAKS OUR PRIEST. WE ARE SO DIFERENT.THE ORTHODOX LOVE GOD BY A DIFERENT WAY!
There is only ONE Church... as it stands in the Creed for now and forever and unto the ages of ages
There is only ONE Christ not many Christs made up of what we think or want the Christ to be.
When he was asked who was he? He said "I am I, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end"
Christ is what HE said he is.. not what we want him to be. It is a great heresy to think that our feeble human minds could comprehend the essence of God.
WE stand at the edge of a Great Ocean that is God. Church and the Ecumenical councils, inspired by the Holy Spirit, determined where the "shore" and the beginning of the Great Ocean is...and we MUST know this to know who and what Holy Trinity IS...
HOWEVER. although we know the "outline" of the ocean... we are but small vessels.. and just as those vessels cannot hold the ocean, we will never be able to fully comprehend the Greatness of God.
it is not up to us to even imagine to define the Heavens, and Christ and what Christ wants.. only to listen to the words and follow them
The problem with Orthodox Christians who believe Ecumenism sounds like a great idea is that when people in your daily lives lie to you in different aspects of your lives you believe it and dismiss it as giving them the benefit of the doubt.
This is how people become victims of rape, kidnap, con artists, theft, heresy, cults, and believing that your government is an honest one.
Do you believe that after years of people being Catholic they would convert back? Think again. The idea is ludicrous.
"Some" synod? Are you aware of who the synod was and how they came to the agreements they came to as well as the inspirational root behind it? Apparently not.
Pai din acest video rezulta ca Arsenie Papacioc este un prorooc mincinos deocarece isi permite sa afirme ca nu se mantuie nimeni in afara de ortodocsi iar Biblia afirma clar ca toti care cred in Isus Hristos si il primesc in viata lor vor fi mantuiti.
Eu am fost si in alte tari si am vazut catolici mult mai morali decat ortodocsii si care ii ajuta pe cei din E Europei cu haine si mancare cand nu au de munca si apoi ortodocsii ii vorbesc de rau cand se intorc in tara.
Ce sa fiu lamurit cu sfintii?Ca nu am inteles intrebarea:ii respect din toata inima mea si sunt un model de urmat insa ata de ortodocsi exista acest aspect si anume ca nu ma inchin lor fiindca este scris ca numai Lui Dumnezeu treb sa ne inchinam.
Apropo in caz ca esti preot ortodox domnule Ioan vreau sa iti cer parerea in legatura cu rugaciune ''Inger ingerasul meu'' pe care o invata copiii de mici...este corect din punct de vedere biblic sa ne inchinam la ingeri?
Pai atunci esti un ipocrit, Pastorul Wurmbrand pe care il respecti atat, se inchina Maicii Domnului si ii cerea ajutorul, o numea Fecioara si Preafericita, credea in sfinti, in icoane, in sfintele tainele (s-a spovedit, impartasit, miruns, samd). Tu de ce nu-l urmezi?
Acum cateva luni intrebai acste lucruri. Vad ca toate comentariile la Pastorul Wurmbrand au disparut, te arde adevarul, crezi ca-l poti ascunde?
Iti recomand filmul ''Memorialul durerii'' cu episodul ''Daca zidurile ar putea vorbi''. Voi ortodocsii nu ati putut suporta ideea ca un om atat de cunoscut peste hotare nu este ortodox si l-ati facut voi cu ajutorul mass mediei mincinoase.Mai bine citeste scrisoare fiului sau Mihai in casa caruia a trait pana la moarte si ai sa vezi ca nu a trait intr-o manastire cum ai scis tu...arma ta cea mai puternica e minciuna..am sters acele minciuni precum si altele..ca s-a nacut in Armenia etc
Nu dragul meu, ortodocsii doar spun ca s-a convertit la ortodoxie in puscarie si ca ortodocsii i-au salvat viata. A murit protestant.
Voi sunteti cei care negati cu disperare acest lucru. Toate marturiile celor din puscarie impreuna cu ce a scris Pastorul Wurmbrand sunt disponibile, ei au fost acolo. Fiul lui n-a fost acolo si neaga adevaruri evidente, Pastorul nu neaga aceste lucruri care AU FOST FACUTE PUBLIC IN TIMPUL VIETII LUI.
Mai mult, sustii ca esti roman dar refuzi sa dai exemple din istorie pentru ca toata istoria este legata de ortodoxie, chiar batjocoresti rolul jucat in istorie de romani.
Vorbesti de "marele Iorga" dar taci chitic cand Iorga spune ca romanii sunt ortodocsi si explica importanta manastirilor.
Te lauzi cu Wurmbrand care va contrazice toate ereziile.
Cum reusesti sa-ti minti constiinta in halul acesta?
Te faci ca nu pricepi, daca nu esti in dreapta credinta nu te mantuiesti. Sustii ca toate miile de secte protestante si neoprotestante sunt in dreapta credinta cand nici voi intre voi nu va intelegeti??
Nu moralitatea te mantuieste, ci faptul ca esti in dreapta credinta, acelasi lucru ca mai sus. Sunt budisti sau ce vrei dumneata mai morali decat toti, dar asta nu inseamna ca se vor mantui.
Imi pare rau ca din cauza limbajului pe care-l folositi sunt nevoit sa va sterg mesajele. Inteleg ca va tulbura cuvintele Parintelui Arsenie dar un minim de decenta se impune. Va voi raspunde cu placere intr-o discutie argumentata corespunzator.
nu se scrie Isus CI IISUS cu 2 de i! NU AU EXISTAT DECÂT 2 BISERICI ÎN BISERICA PRIMARĂ: Biserica de răsărit (ORTODOXĂ) ŞI Biserica de apus (CATOLICA), a se vedea marea schimă din 1054! ŞI TE VEI CONVINGE! Ιησούς (greaca nouă) în română se scrie IISUS NU Isus! În greacă veche se scrie după traducere cu 2 de Ii!
Arsenie Papacioc zice ca numai ortodocsii se mantuie.
Biblia spune altceva:toti cei ce cred in DOmnul Isus Hristos vor fi mantuiti. Pavel si Sila i-au raspuns: "Crede in Domnul Isus, si vei fi mantuit tu si casa ta." (Fapt.16:31)
Cine are dreptate:Arsenie Papacioc sau Apostolii Pavel si Sila?
Mai scrie in Bilbie ca vor aparea si hristosi si prooroci mincinosi, si daca ii vei urma nu te vei mantui. Mai scrie ca numai credinta, fara fapte, iarasi nu te va mantui.
Deci au dreptate si Parintele Arsenie si Apostolii.
Te-ai lamurit cum e cu sfintii, Maica Domnului, icoanele, Sfintele Taine, samd?
No one could claim Im.Conc. has ancient roots in Church since it was established ... 19 centuries after Pentecost. Amusingly, it was fully rejected by canonized "saints" of Papism such as Bernard, Bonaventure &Aquinas.The leading early proponents of this new dogma (Eadmer+Duns Scotus) were not canonised by papism! For much of late Middle Ages, Dominicans and Franciscans violently fought over it.
why is there no actual doctrinal arguments with support from the early Church Fathers on here? that is what we are looking for. what did the earliest Fathers believe about the primacy of the bishop of Rome. not what eastern Patriarchs said after 1028 AD.
In a 5 min talk?! You cannot be serious. If you wish to learn more I highly recommend the book "The Truth: What Every RC Should Know About the Orthodox Church" by Clark Calrton (Regina, Orthodox Press, 1999) esp. Chap. 4 However because most papists have no idea what we believe (e.g. they believe Bartholomew is like your Pope!) I recommend you read the entire book minus the appendices; only 190 pages. Then we can discuss things again. Good luck!
why not make some Videos on the topic? It's clear that youtube is lacking such content. I would be interested in watching it. my one suggestion would to be to leave the past in the past and only talk doctrine. unless you want to make a vid on why Orth. don't trust the Catholic Church. I'll look into the book though... *sigh* another one to the 5 others i'm reading XD
Wow replying to my own messages. Pretty sad :) Only to point out that unfortunately most of the good articles on RCism are missing from translation. Only about 10% of the over 2,600 articles that include digital books (!) has been translated into English.:( But they are (slowly) working on it although it seems they add new articles every day too (!) I'll try write to them to find out more!
this fellow is breathtakingly ignorant (and paranoid) about the papacy and the Catholic faith. I've always been shocked by Orthodox hostility toward Catholics, when we have nothing but love for them. Indeed, Christ said for his Church to be one, not hegemony. the irony is i'd probably be quite content at one of his sermons on morality. he has a clear understanding of the necessity of fidelity to the Gospel, albeit incomplete on the Ecumenism. i pray God Blesses him
The view on Ecumenism among the Orthodox Elders is clear, I guess you'd call it incomplete, but according to the Holy Tradition and the Holy Fathers. You kept innovating.
You have to do better than just using words such as ignorant and paranoid to prove your point.
As Orthodox, we're very aware that the Catholics "have nothing but love" for us, we remember the Crusaders in Constantinople, or the demolition with cannons of the Orthodox monasteries in Transylvania.
oh come on, if u want to talk doctrine then you don't get to bring up secular crap from centuries past. It is clear the eastern churches broke with the Catholics, not the other way round. just read the early fathers. But the Pope celebrating mass with Catholics is offensive? we have to use leavened bread? where does it say that? the immaculate conception is heresy? where is the evidence to contradict that given by the Church? we innovated the liturgy? how? (honest questions, not being rude)
I'll answer ur question, when u answer mine. where does it say we must use leavened bread (Christ didn't us it)? where is there contradiction in the evidence of the doctrine of the immaculate conception provided by the Church? How did the Church innovate the liturgy? what early Church Fathers don't recognize the primacy of the authority of the Pope? we don't "answer" questions with questions in theology. I'm not treating u like a child, i expect the same treatment from u. give me evidence
Well, the "secular crap from centuries past" how you call it, we call it Holy Tradition. All we want is for you to return to the "early fathers", point clearly made at the recent closing of the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church took place in Paphos, Cyprus, see next message.
"The Ecumenical Councils and the great Fathers of the first millennium are a guarantee of the authentic theological interpretation of the sacrament of the divine economy in Christ, and of its genuine experience by the faithful in the sacrament of the Church, which, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, extends the continuous and living presence of Jesus Christ in the world, until the end of time.
no those things are not S. Tradition. S. Trad. is the deposit of Faith pased from the Apostles, through the Church Fathers to us. why St John, the Apostle, didn't protest Pope St Clement, taught by St Paul and consecrated bishop by St Peter, using papal primacy over the Corinthians. St Iraneus clearly claims primacy of the Roman pope over the whole Church. He, as i'm sure you know, is taught by St Polycarp, taught and consecrated bishop by St John. what early Fathers are you talking about then?
All these departures from the Truth lead to heresy and everything started from papal primacy.
The best example of how important are the Holy Tradition, Holy Fathers, dogmas, etc. for the RC Church is the Uniat Church. They are exactly like the Orthodox but with one crucial difference, they bow down to the Pope!
More recently is the invitation of Vatican to the Anglicans, bow down to the Pope "without abandoning their entire liturgical and spiritual patrimony".
you haven't addressed the evidence from the early Church Fathers. you are presupposing your position is true without evidence. i'm willing to change my position if you can show me how these early fathers did not support papal primacy. again, we are not discussing Anglicans, crusades etc.
I find it amazing how you speak about hostilities of Orthodox to Papism: destruction of Orthodox temples by Uniates in Ukraine, 1.5 million people slaughtered in WW2 by Ante Pavelic with the blessings of the Vatican. U also gave the world Crusades,Inquisition, and so on.
(although this is all historically inaccurate) what does any of this have to do with the doctrine of the immaculate conception? how does any of it provide evidence of doctrinal contradiction in the evidence provided by the Church for the Dogma? these other issues fall under the Lord's prayer, "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against us." All these folks have gone to their reward, whatever that may be. we however are discussing doctrine.
You're losing all your credibility by denying these crimes. General Bukow destroyed Orthodox Monasteries in Transylvania with the cannons killing in the process thousands. "Saint" Ante Pavelic, AKA 'Butcher of the Balkans', forced the serbs to convert to catholicism before killing them by the hundred of thousands and moking them, you'll go to Paradise now, you're Catholics.
Please visit IMPantocratoros gr in order to read about the heresy of Ecumenism. Bartholomew is clearly a papo-phile but still canonical; priesthood is not removed "automatically" even when one heretises. Those at the top who fall always cause grief for the Ecclesia; alas.
Is he really a Freemason? I know some of the former Patriarchs were, but I didn't know HAH was. Joining Freemasonry is a serious, demonic mistake. I hope it's not true.
I don't think there's any evidence that His Holiness Patriarch Bartholomew is a Freemason. Unfortunately, he does inherit an attitude of compromise from his successors. May God guide him into the Truth, and I pray that the next Ecumenical Patriarch will be more traditional and right-believing- perhaps a holy monk from Mt. Athos is what we need.
unfortunately, some orthodox hierachs are freemasons. please check for an image of the patriarchal throne of the patriarchate of jerusalem, and there above the icon of chirst you will clearly see their symbol.
nevertheless, christ will deliver us to the end, in his glory. (these issues are just minor and very earthly. i know).
Random geometric symbols are not necessarily the masons'. But even if some were masons this is irrelevant to the Faith. They not minor in that we often suffer from their betrayal, like today thru ecumenism
We're not against Ecumenical dialogues per se but in SOME dialogues only. The answer is given to you in the article Your Holiness WHAT pan-Orthodox decision? found at OODEGR COM in their English section (go to New Articles, second from the top)
Thank you for the link. This text shows the complexity of political and human factors.
I heard one day on a Christian radio, a person belonging to an ecumenical group who said that dialog is easily experienced at a non-hierarchical level.
Amice mosclaudiu nu m-ai contrazis cu nici un verset,asa ca am sa continui.Mantuirea se obtine prin credinta in Domnul Isus Hristos.
"Daca ne marturisim pacatele, El este credincios si drept, ca sa ne ierte pacatele si sa ne curateasca de orice nelegiuire. (1Ioan1:9)
Ioan 3:16". Fiindca atat de mult a iubit Dumnezeu lumea, ca a dat pe singurul Lui Fiu, pentruca oricine crede in El, sa nu piara, ci sa aiba viata vecinica."
3. "Şi cântau o cântare nouă, înaintea tronului şi înaintea celor patru fiinţe şi înaintea bătrânilor; şi nimeni nu putea să înveţe cântarea decât numai cei o sută patruzeci şi patru de mii, care fuseseră răscumpăraţi de pe pământ.
4. Aceştia sunt care nu s-au întinat cu femei, căci sunt feciorelnici. Aceştia sunt care merg după Miel ori unde se va duce. Aceştia au fost răscumpăraţi dintre oameni, pârgă lui Dumnezeu şi Mielului. "
12. Dar tuturor celor ce L-au primit, adica celorce cred in Numele Lui, le-a dat dreptul sa se faca copii ai lui Dumnezeu;
Concluzia este ca ORICINE crede in Isus Hristos va fi mantuit indiferent din ce cult face parte.Exclusivistii au probleme de intelegere a Bibliei f grave.
Recapitulare:ORICINE crede in Isus Hristos va fi mantuit.
APOCALIPSA 14:1. ''Şi m-am uitat şi iată Mielul stătea pe muntele Sion şi cu El o sută patruzeci şi patru de mii, care aveau numele Lui şi numele Tatălui Lui, scris pe frunţile lor.
2. Atunci am auzit un glas din cer, ca un vuiet de ape multe şi ca bubuitul unui tunet puternic, iar glasul pe care l-am auzit ca glasul celor ce cântă cu alăutele lor. "
voi sectarii nu sunteţi oameni. Voi sunteţi draci fără de coarne, că voi căutaţi să distrugeţi Biserica şi să-i rupeţi pe oameni de la ea, ca să-i duceţi în iad. Măcar dracii au coarne, iar voi nu aveţi deşi faceţi ca ei.
"Nu oricine Imi zice Doamne, Doamne, va intra in Imparatia Cerurilor, ci cel ce face voia Tatalui Meu, Celui din Ceruri." (Matei 7,21) si exemple mai sunt. nu sunt eu chiar asa vrednic si nu le tin minte cu exactitate. dar dak ai fi curios ai gasi si u exemple in care Domnul nostru Iisus Hristos ne arata nu doar simpla credinta ne mantuie. asa dak nu cumva ne alaturam fariseii care stim cat au fost criticati de Domnul si Dumnezeul Nostru. asta dak e in biblia voastra asa ceva.
"Nu oricine Imi zice Doamne, Doamne, va intra in Imparatia Cerurilor, ci cel ce face voia Tatalui Meu, Celui din Ceruri." (Matei 7,21)---corect dar nu ne putem mantui prin faptele bune ci prin credinta in Domnul Isus Hristos.
pe jumatate adevarat. nu ne putem mantui dak nu credem dar nici nu ne putem mantui doar dak credem. pur si simplu nu e de ajuns. e ca si cum ne-am satura doar gandindu-ne doar la mancare. cum zicea cineva. cum a trebuit (si inca mai trebuie - nota personala) sa invatam sa "fim cetateni europeni" pentru a intra in UE tot asa trebuie sa invatam sa devenim si cetateni ai Raiului entru a ajunge acolo. si asta cere efort, sacrificii nu doar idei si meditatii
Zici bine dar nu spui tot:nu ne mantuim prin fapte bune ci prin credinta in Domnul Isus Hristos.Normal ca in urma credintei vomface fapte bune si trairea practica este finalitatea credintei. Iti dau un exemplu din Biblie:talharul de pe cruce care a crezut in Domnul Isus a fost mantuit fara sa mai aiba posibilitatea sa faca fapte bune.Sper ca ai inteles si te indemn sa citesti in special Noul Testament!
Auzi, da am si eu o intrebare: bunaoara, diavolul crede in Iisus ? Desigur ca da, mai mult decat atat, L-a si recunoscut, pe vremea cand umbla pe pamant. Bun, si atunci de ce nu se mantuieste si satana ? Huh ? Dragilor, credinta fara fapte este MOARTA, "nu oricine imi zice Doamne Doamne va intra in imparatia tatalui Meu ci numai cei ce implinesc voia Lui", va sa zica, faptele cele din credinta te mantuiesc, ca o credinta fara fapte e doar demagogie. Diavolul e cel mai clar exemplu ca sa intelegi
We look forward to your new video - and praise our God and Savior Jesus Christ that this beloved Elder is alive still for us to hear! I am sharing this video far and wide! Thank you so much for providing English translation which is badly needed to be able to learn from him.
"The vicar does not exist unless the Master is dead"! These are true words. I do not think that it is right to have the Pope. The Catholic Church is too concerned with worldly power.
Va invit sa cititi Romana,limba vechii Europe sau Romanian,the first language of Europe ori macar sa vizitati grupul Originea reala a limbii romanesti.
Si este concludent ce credinta au avut oamenii mari ai Romaniei?Ca iti dau exemple de sute de oameni de stiinta din Anglia,Germania etc etc care au fost luterani,protestanti etc si au avut contributii la stiinta pe plan mondial IMENSE!Ai inteles?Crezi ca Romania este buricul pamantului?
(Robert Boyle, Michael Faradey, Isaac Newton, Lord Kelvin, Blaise Pascal, Louis Pasteur, Johannes Kepler si Ambrose Fleming,GALILEO GALILEI,ISAAC NEWTON etc etc)
LOL I love and respect this priest he seems to practice what he preaches. But What about Hesychasm that was not decided at the 7 Ecumenical Councils but yey you hold it to be Orthodoxy. Catholicism has always been the majority the established Church of Christ. It has committed error's and many of them but its no different in the human institution of the Orthodox Church. It has also made many mistakes with the Communist but that does not matter it does nto mean that they are not inspired.Frailty!
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Orthodoxy is too nationalistic, as opposed to the West it is truly united. And has always benn even though Europe has fought wars against each other, it was not between Catholics but really against kings. And if you are going to mention the Warrior Popes please dont because they were bad Popes. The Popes just like any of the Hyearchy of the Church can be subject to Human frailty and greed. So if you are blaming this or that on Catholics look at your own History period....
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Orthodox theology is so unreasonable its quite perplexing to the mind. But you are what they call ULTRA-traditionalist no matter what there cant be a change even if it is in discipline. A lot of monks would do this discipline especially in Syria where they would put a chain and ball so they cant move outside of a radius. But when St. Benedict saw this he told them to be chained to the love of Christ, not mere externals. That is the true spirit of what asceticism is not external breathing pattern
's and repeating one word so many times that you start illusioning "the uncreated light of God", what the Apostles have seen. This is false mysticism, called quietism and thi9s is false and completely heretical. Some people took it so far that you get so pure and holy at that point that you are no longer obliged by obedience or the Law of the Church. Look up Quietism and you will see that the Eastern's are all Platonistic in nature. Just like Abba Evagrius who was condemned as a heresy his ideas
But, then again Orthodox church did have Jesuits, witch hunts, Inquisition, abuse of indulgenses, catholic-protestant wars, agressive prozelitism in South America, crusades...
You are also wrong as regards platonism. The papal philosophy originates in the writings of Augustine who was a neoplatonist. Hysechasm has nothing to do with platonism and that's evident in the writings of Saint Gregory Palamas.
Papacy expressed the nationalism of the Franks who enslaved the Romans. That was the first nationalism and was paid back by the nationalism of protestantism. Romans were not nationalists. Orthodoxy was the faith of the Romans. Now Papacy just sells...
...the lie that it is the early Christianity and the faith adopted by the Romans. But of course it is not the case. It is the distortion of the faith by the Frankish racist and illiterate nobility which made the biggest culture-cleansing in history, the forerunners of the nazis.
In the ninth ecumenical council which defended hesychasm, it was exactly the platonic mysticism that was condemned (as it was condemned by the Fathers traditionally) expressed by Barlaam of Calabria who had studied in Rome and after his ideas were condemned he went back to Calabria and eventually became a papal bishop.
Orthodox theology is not unreasonable and perplexing at all, actually it is much less opressive then catholic faith, the priest is not a shepherd but the facilitator in communication with God, therefore it allows much more freedom and does not imply the guilt, which is something catholic church does. I guess you are not Orthodox and you rely on literature, I guess catholic. Not to mention the enlightening role Orthodox church has had.
Yes, Orthodoxy is nationalistic because the Bible was tranlated in non-Greek languages early on, pagan tradition was incoroporated into the Orthodox teachings, for example, Serbs still have SLAVA, a family feast in honour of a family saint, which is a pre-christian remnant incorporated in the Serbian Orthodox Church, my slava is St. John the Baptist. Futhermore, Serbian church preserved Serbian nation, literacy, language and faith during the 600-year Turkish invasion.
You hold wrong ideas about the Ecumenical Councils. They did not invent anything. They just defended and formulated what it was already known and true. The Christian faith has not changed at all in Orthodoxy since the time of the Apostles. Hesychasm was defended in the ninth ecumenical council.
The idea of summoning synods in order to innovate things as it happened with the so-called infallibility of the Pope is foreign to Christianity and it is to be found only in Papacy.
Schism was caused by politcal intrests.He dosnt want to acept that the Pope s the Vicar of X't on earth.But in AD600s,the GreekChurch gave greater role to the Empror ofConstantinple,calling him the X't on Earth.GreatSchism of AD1054 was the summit of long political conflict b/n the empires of Constantnople&Rome--popes had been refusing to grant the patriarchate of Constantnopl the honor as 2nd to Rom bcoz it was untraditional(Alexandria was 2nd,followed by Antioch established by St.Petr hmself).
Schism was caused by the west's twisting of the word of God, and their pope's exessive interest in the worldly affairs and power. There were five patriarchates at the time, your one left this union and created a new denomination based on heretival teachings that no true Christian could ever accept. Your sect's corruption and greed has expelled the Word of God from the West.
there were popes who had that personality.there were also heads of Constantinople who were also like them.what can you say about patriarchs Photius&Michael Cerularius?Although,Photius died in communion with Rome.Only in 701 that patriarchate of Constantinople was recognized by Rome when Antioch&Alexandria were reduced into minor Xtian communities by the Muslims.The Eastern Holy Fathers had always recognized the supreme authority of Rome over all the Churches.
if you are going to tell me that in the X or XI century a priest from Russia, Georgia or Asia Minor considerred the pope from Rome as his "supreme leader" and "vicar of Christ" then you'd better shut up, pal.
We Catholics even have a commemoration of the dead which we celebrate every November 2.Praying for the dead is always part of the celebration of the Eucharist.
Please, write "latin catholics", because there are the eastern ones, like me, melkite, who am also byzantine and, then, I commemorate the deads at the Proskomidi.
Proskomidi is the first part of the Divine Liturgy in byzantine rite. It is a "private" service, executed only by the priest, where he prepares the holy gifts of bread and wine, relating it, through the prayers, to the birth and sacrifice of Christ (which also conect these two events between themself).
All the Church is remember, including the dead, representing each Church's part with a bread's piece.
Many years! Many years! Many years! I was once a member of the Roman "Church", now I am by God's grace an Orthodox Christian. What a wonderful starets Elder Arsenie is!
I have never heard of Orthodox monks who are not charitable against someone, no matter their religious background. We do live in a turmoiled world, but these people (and lay people, too) base their life on a tight connection between fasting, vigils, and charity. None works without the other and a life without charity is worth nothing, no matter how much fasting etc you'd keep, as St. John the Golden Mouth said. This is abc to any monk.
Being Orthodox also means understanding why you have to stick with its rules and principles. Like many others, I used to be quite relaxed myself until I saw how much sense that makes.
The stake is my soul and I am certainly not going to take that lightly. It is a shame that Christianity branched out into other confessions to the point that now young people call them "other religions" and how we should "respect" them.
God bless him. He is a witness to the truth of Orthodoxy, and not afraid of telling ecumenists they are wrong. May God grant him many years! I look forward to more videos.
Truth can never trounce charity or vice-versa. This father never advocates any sort of uncharitable behavior toward non-Orthodox rather he proclaims the orthodox truth against heresy. How can one say that it is uncharitable to claim that certain ideas are erroneous and others are not?
Come on.. Pocaiti-va oameni buni inaintea lui Dumnezeu nu inaintea oamenilor. Si nu mai punetzi atat accentul pe denominatiune.. "Hristos in noi nadejdea Slavei"
Such authentic and straightforward honesty is SO rare in this age of Godless compromise and ecumenism! May Elder Arsenie be blessed with every Spiritual blessing in Christ!
For the blessed rejoining of Christ's chruch, everyone is going to have to change, not just those that left. That means even the Greeks. Us American Episcopals will have to give up immorality, the Baptists will have to give up comfort, the Catholics will probably have to give up the Pope, and Orthodox will have to loose their pride. We will all gain unity as the beloved church of Christ.
This priest should be Patriarch, because he speaks words of wisdom. Rather, God speaks through him!If all the Orthodox clergy were like him, we would need not worry.
As an Orthodox myself, I respect this Elder's zeal, but I think we need to stop anathematizing people, making salvific pronouncements on others, and humbly remember that GOD, in His absolute freedom, decides who will be saved and who will not be saved. We humans cannot set limits on His Divine freedom. God's offer of salvation is open to every human being, without any exception whatsoever. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son...
tpkatsa 1 month ago
@tpkatsa
"They are anathematized... Ecumenical Councils have decided, because it wasn't done either by you or me. We cannot guarantee their salvation" QED
I would suggest you follow the Church and the Holy Fathers and not your own interpretation. What Church do you belong to? Are you a cradle Orthodox or a convert?
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The Savior never said that if you alter anything slightly it is anathematized. He's right about Ecumenism, but there is no such biblical passage.
Pilgrim1411 2 months ago
at least he sounds like a good man.
daftmou5 3 months ago
Eucmenism mut be done, but when Pope and Catholics will come back to the Law of Ecumenical Counciles ...
Capitanul9603 5 months ago
@Capitanul9603 Or when the Eastern Orthodox abandon nationalism and re-unite with the See of St. Peter, who has universal jurisdiction. Rome is apostolic, Constantinople is not.
assasincomedy 3 months ago
@assasincomedy I also belive on an Union viat Pope but under the law and tradition of the First Christians... that were on one true and correct Faith!
And that Faith was Ortthodox Christianity.
And Constantinopole is just an ilusion... If you want to talk about Constantinopole we must first have a Crusade, a Crusade of Truth and United Faith!
United under Cross in a Truth Faith and without ignorace on atheisation Sects and Jewish and Muslim Invasion!
DEUS VOLT!
Capitanul9603 3 months ago
@Capitanul9603 Orthodoxy does not recognise the Authority of St. Peter, which is apostolic. The early saints recognised the authority of the Roman Pontiff. He is not simply 'another Bishop'. Read the writings of St. Maximus the Confessor.
assasincomedy 3 months ago
@assasincomedy
We may recognise it if the Roman Pontiff will respect the old law.
I gave you one short and fundamental exemple :
At the Ecumenical Counciles and THE NICEEAN CREED! :
Holy Spirit comes only from Father God and not from God and Jesus Christ! This is only one change by the Catholic Church.
Capitanul9603 3 months ago
@Capitanul9603 That is doctrinal development. The Orthodox refuse to believe any other ecumenical councils, which clarified belief and let better understanding take place.
assasincomedy 3 months ago
@assasincomedy
Ecumenical Councils are only Those who were adopted by an Ecumenical Christian Church.
Filique is WRONG !
P.S. By mt last anding Phrase DEVS VOLT!
I'm proud to be latin and I will always sustain a CORRECT ECUMENISM!
Capitanul9603 3 months ago
@Capitanul9603 Wrong! Ecumenical Councils are those which the Pope, the Bishop of Rome, is present. It does not have to be accepted by the whole Church. That is a logical fallacy, the Church has never been fully agreeing with each other! The first seven councils were largely used to fight Arianism, which had it's hold on a huge amount of Christians!
assasincomedy 3 months ago
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@nihilsacrum The Christian Church was from the beginning at Jerusalem. had from the beginning Jesus Himself to lead us.
Scipione01 6 months ago
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PARINTELE A PLECAT LA CERURI SA SE ROAGE PENTRU NOI.ACUM 3 SAPTAMANI CAND M-AM INTALNIT CU PARINTELE ARSENIE , ERA DOAR FIZIC PE PAMANT, M-A BINECUVANTAT , DAR OCHII LUI ERAU DEPARTE SI ZAMBEA TOT TIMPUL.M-A INVREDNICIT DUMNEZEU SA-L VAD SI STIU CA EL SE VA RUGA SA AJUGA ROMANIA ACOLO UNDE SE CUVINE SA FIE.TRAISCA ROMANIA ADEVARATA : A LUI ARSENIE PAPACIOC, A LUI IUSTIN PARVU , A LUI ADRIAN FAGETEANU!!!!
FanClubSince1987 6 months ago
What a Wonderful man. I would like to know if books he's written are published in the English language. May God bless him!
thatUkrainianguy 7 months ago
@thatUkrainianguy
I'm not aware of any, but now that he moved to the Triumphant Church, praying for us, there is hope...
ioancasian 6 months ago
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Foarte buna ideea cu traducerea in engleza. Felicitari pentru efort!
Doamne ajuta!
Account4YT 8 months ago
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Account4YT 8 months ago
interesant
puscasuvladirimie 9 months ago
comentarii....comantarii.....una este Biserica,cea Ortodoxa unde se respecta totul asa cum trebuie dogmele si Sfintele Taine.pe unii ii supara ca nu-s in adevar si atunci imediat ies la atac.Toti avem pacate si ne luptam cu ispitele.Nu aveti voi treaba cu altii,raportati-va la voi insiva tot timpul.PUNETI-VA LA PUNCT ASA CUM TREBUIE CU TRAIREA DUHOVNICEASCA .
330john1453 10 months ago
Catolici,Protestanti...etc.sunt ERETICI !!! Ortodoxia este singura biserica a lui IIsus Hristos
UnCrestinOrtodox13 1 year ago
i will never understand it... we protestants are just doing whats written in the bible and they call us heretics and say we'll burn in hell although they consider the bible as holy as well...
BlackBunch 1 year ago
@BlackBunch
All that the Elder says is that we cannot guarantee salvation to people who are not in the Church. Is up to God what happens to them.
In Christ
ioancasian 1 year ago 2
@ioancasian Jesus Christ said "whoever believes in me will be saved!"... he never said "you have to be a member of the Orthodox Church in order to be saved!", but thats what this priest says, he is adding something to the words of the Bible that is not in there and calls the people heretics who do not do such a thing...
BlackBunch 1 year ago
@BlackBunch: You're misconstruing Theology here. Christ created One Church through Peter and that One Church is the Orthodox Church to this day. This One Church preaches, practices and is guided by the Holy Spirit.
dimic 11 months ago
@ioancasian You can't guarantee the salvation of people in the Church either.
vladimir998 7 months ago
@vladimir998
No, but being in the Church is a step in the right direction...
ioancasian 6 months ago
@BlackBunch basically without the enlightment of the holy spirit no one can truly understand he holy bible. Why is it so that there are so many protestant churches. theres only one truth if think about it. Yet all prostestant churches have interpreted the holy bible however they wanted. I read many stories of protestants turning to orthodoxy and I must say.. if you want read this book: Thirsting for God n a Land of Shallow Wells
lefteris84 11 months ago
@BlackBunch You don't have the Holy tradition. You don't know what is Gods word. You don't understand what true Christianity is. The Holy tradition is the word of the living God, which we follow. You protestants only follow your own words, because you read the bible and follow what YOU think is right. But do you really know what is objectivly true? No. That is why you cannot read the bible and interpret it YOUR way. God himself, tought us what is true and so we follow Him, the truth.
Draza145 9 months ago
@BlackBunch I was a protestant once.... we do not hold the truth, thats why i will become orthodox.
ThaTruthSpeaker 8 months ago 2
@BlackBunch It doesn't matter what your confession says as long as in your heart you know that it must be wrong. All confession pretend that their religion is good, but not all can touch your soul. There are many ways for the Bible interpretation.
wamfree 7 months ago
By embracing ecumenism Patriarch Irinej along with other pawns in the SOC namely Atanasije Jevtic and Amfilohihije Radovic have embraced a belief in conflict with the teachings of “true” Christianity which is the Holy Eastern Orthodox Church
banostor 1 year ago
The Nicene Creed states the Orthodox Church's dogmatic basis, "I believe in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I believe in one baptism." Ecumenism rejects these fundamental truths of the church by teaching that there are many churches and many baptisms.
The beliefs of ecumenism and the beliefs of Orthodoxy are mutually exclusive. You can either believe in the Creed or you can believe in ecumenism, NOT BOTH.
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minoliist 1 year ago
Orthodoxy is the One and Only True Faith.
vezonfan1 1 year ago 12
ce zice la minutul 1:13 ii cel mai mare adevar - ei nu pot sa ne garanteze mantuirea, numai Isus poate - sa nu-mi spuna mie ca unuia - care ii bautor, isi bate nevasta, bea si banii pe care ii primesc copii de la stat, merge duminica la slujba si se marturiseste si ia cuminecatura, apoi de luni incepe cu aceleasi lucruri - ii poate garanta mantuirea
ZenithF 1 year ago 2
@ZenithF
Parintele se refera la faptul ca sectelor nu le putem garanta mantuirea in afara Bisericii, ascultati cu atentie.
ioancasian 1 year ago
@ioancasian pai eu inteleg foarte bine ce zice, ca sectantilor (inclusiv mie) nu le garanteaza mantuirea, dar din asta inteleg cum le poate garanta mantuirea "bunilor ortodocsi" care numai buni nu sunt (dupa cum i-am descris mai inainte)
lucrul asta este cel mai cu "clenci", ca, dupa cum scrie si in Sfanta Scriptura, multi au zis "Doamne, Doamne" si nu au fost mantuiti - poate totusi ca asta se refera la cei ca mine si nu la drept-credinciosii care sunt cam lumesti?
ZenithF 1 year ago
@ZenithF
Puteti extrapola in ce directie doriti dar subiectul e clar, se poate obtine mantuirea in afara Bisericii? Mai exact, in lipsa Duhului Sfant, a botezului, a Euharistiei, samd?
Noi ortodocsii intr-adevar suntem pacatosi, Mantuitorul pentru noi a venit, pentru cei bolnavi.
ioancasian 1 year ago
Tank you for the video. Does someone know the adress of the great Romanian elder?
venceslavh 1 year ago
@venceslavh
Christ is Risen!
He lives in Techirghiol, South of Constanta, Dobrogea. The Monastery is Sfanta Maria (Saint Mary).
ioancasian 1 year ago
thanks for the great video
2Nikolaos3 1 year ago
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in realitate acel preot nu stie absolut,dar absolut nimic de Biserica Catolica!!!!!
The fact that priest knows absolutely, absolutely nothing of the Catholic church!!!!!
exlyon 2 years ago
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in realitate acel preot nu stie absolut,dar absolut nimic de Biserica Catolica!!!!!
The fact that priest knows absolutely, absolutely nothing of the Catholic church!!!!!
exlyon 2 years ago
You need more than this to get some credibility. Why not refute each claim, one by one?
ioancasian 2 years ago
mi-ati sters comentariile din cauza limbajului meu? pai de ce nu scoate-ti video-ul din cauza limbajului sau? Daca ati trai in Germania sau in Franta, nici nu ati avea permisiunea sa publicati un asemenea "Interviu"! Sa va fie rusine! Pacat ca Biserica Ortodoxa nu ia masuri! Oare BO nu are Drept Canonic prin care sa va tina sub control? Si va mai rog ceva: nu ma luati cu asemenea cuvinte mangaietoare, ca am fost si eu in manastire ani de zile si va cunosc naravu!
mariushanganu 2 years ago
Nu trebuie sa va pierdeti cumpatul, puteti sa argumentati. Nu ma mira ca in "lumea libera" adevarul este interzis, iti trebuie permisiune sa-l marturisesti! Parintii duhovnicesti ne-au avertizat ca ce vine dupa comunism va fi mai rau.
DOamne ajuta!
ioancasian 2 years ago
@exlyon I respect all confession i don't hate anyone i just like to tell you that the priest knows more than you imagine about your church!!!! Orthodoxy is the most ancient church after ISUS CRISTOS being the withness of your decision to divide with the eastern church.ITS A LOGIC TO KNOW WHY THE CATHOLICS LIKED TO DIVIDE WITH US.FOR YOU ITS DIFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ABOUT SPEAKS OUR PRIEST. WE ARE SO DIFERENT.THE ORTHODOX LOVE GOD BY A DIFERENT WAY!
cristian6745 1 year ago
Long live the Orthodox Faith, unchanged and unmoving .. forever and ever
return to the true faith... ecumenism is a compromise.. as the Elder says.. even the SMALLEST change (compromise) is a GREAT fall...
asf4321 2 years ago 3
There is only ONE Church... as it stands in the Creed for now and forever and unto the ages of ages
There is only ONE Christ not many Christs made up of what we think or want the Christ to be.
When he was asked who was he? He said "I am I, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end"
Christ is what HE said he is.. not what we want him to be. It is a great heresy to think that our feeble human minds could comprehend the essence of God.
asf4321 2 years ago
WE stand at the edge of a Great Ocean that is God. Church and the Ecumenical councils, inspired by the Holy Spirit, determined where the "shore" and the beginning of the Great Ocean is...and we MUST know this to know who and what Holy Trinity IS...
asf4321 2 years ago
HOWEVER. although we know the "outline" of the ocean... we are but small vessels.. and just as those vessels cannot hold the ocean, we will never be able to fully comprehend the Greatness of God.
it is not up to us to even imagine to define the Heavens, and Christ and what Christ wants.. only to listen to the words and follow them
asf4321 2 years ago
The problem with Orthodox Christians who believe Ecumenism sounds like a great idea is that when people in your daily lives lie to you in different aspects of your lives you believe it and dismiss it as giving them the benefit of the doubt.
This is how people become victims of rape, kidnap, con artists, theft, heresy, cults, and believing that your government is an honest one.
Do you believe that after years of people being Catholic they would convert back? Think again. The idea is ludicrous.
BPhire 2 years ago
ecumenismul ortodox - heterodox este precum pacea între evrei și musulmani.
ltcbalaurro2009 2 years ago
Jesus weeps...Why is it so difficult to stick to his message of love for all mankind and not get bogged down by what some synod said 1500 years ago?
crussher2 2 years ago
"Some" synod? Are you aware of who the synod was and how they came to the agreements they came to as well as the inspirational root behind it? Apparently not.
BPhire 2 years ago
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Moaştele Sfântului Român Ioan Iacob Hozevitul - Poze
Vezi MINUNEA cu ochii tai si da mai departe sa vada toti!
Am facut aceste poze in august 2009 in timpul unui pelerinaj in Israel.
Puteti vedea filmul la:
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sau intrati in profilul meu si este primul film de acolo.
Titlul lui complet este:
Moaştele Sfântului Român Ioan Iacob Hozevitul - Poze + Fericirile glasul 5
gheorghe56123 2 years ago
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qu3ter 2 years ago
Pai din acest video rezulta ca Arsenie Papacioc este un prorooc mincinos deocarece isi permite sa afirme ca nu se mantuie nimeni in afara de ortodocsi iar Biblia afirma clar ca toti care cred in Isus Hristos si il primesc in viata lor vor fi mantuiti.
Eu am fost si in alte tari si am vazut catolici mult mai morali decat ortodocsii si care ii ajuta pe cei din E Europei cu haine si mancare cand nu au de munca si apoi ortodocsii ii vorbesc de rau cand se intorc in tara.
Citeste cap 14 din Fapte Ap!
nellule1980 2 years ago 2
Ce sa fiu lamurit cu sfintii?Ca nu am inteles intrebarea:ii respect din toata inima mea si sunt un model de urmat insa ata de ortodocsi exista acest aspect si anume ca nu ma inchin lor fiindca este scris ca numai Lui Dumnezeu treb sa ne inchinam.
Apropo in caz ca esti preot ortodox domnule Ioan vreau sa iti cer parerea in legatura cu rugaciune ''Inger ingerasul meu'' pe care o invata copiii de mici...este corect din punct de vedere biblic sa ne inchinam la ingeri?
nellule1980 2 years ago
Pai atunci esti un ipocrit, Pastorul Wurmbrand pe care il respecti atat, se inchina Maicii Domnului si ii cerea ajutorul, o numea Fecioara si Preafericita, credea in sfinti, in icoane, in sfintele tainele (s-a spovedit, impartasit, miruns, samd). Tu de ce nu-l urmezi?
Acum cateva luni intrebai acste lucruri. Vad ca toate comentariile la Pastorul Wurmbrand au disparut, te arde adevarul, crezi ca-l poti ascunde?
ioancasian 2 years ago
Iti recomand filmul ''Memorialul durerii'' cu episodul ''Daca zidurile ar putea vorbi''. Voi ortodocsii nu ati putut suporta ideea ca un om atat de cunoscut peste hotare nu este ortodox si l-ati facut voi cu ajutorul mass mediei mincinoase.Mai bine citeste scrisoare fiului sau Mihai in casa caruia a trait pana la moarte si ai sa vezi ca nu a trait intr-o manastire cum ai scis tu...arma ta cea mai puternica e minciuna..am sters acele minciuni precum si altele..ca s-a nacut in Armenia etc
nellule1980 2 years ago
N-am scris niciodata ca a trait intr-o manastire, din contra am corectat aceasta eroare.
N-am scris niciodata ca s-a nascut in Armenia, inventezi lucruri. De fapt toata discutia mea este completa, pe canalul meu, n-ai putut sa o stergi.
Te rog sa imi arati pe canalul meu unde sunt scrise lucrurile de care ma acuzi. Nu poti? Atunci tu esti mincinosul.
Continui sa poluezi acest canal care este dedicat limbii engleze. De acum incolo, vom muta toate posturile tale pe canalul tau, in romaneste.
ioancasian 2 years ago
Nu dragul meu, ortodocsii doar spun ca s-a convertit la ortodoxie in puscarie si ca ortodocsii i-au salvat viata. A murit protestant.
Voi sunteti cei care negati cu disperare acest lucru. Toate marturiile celor din puscarie impreuna cu ce a scris Pastorul Wurmbrand sunt disponibile, ei au fost acolo. Fiul lui n-a fost acolo si neaga adevaruri evidente, Pastorul nu neaga aceste lucruri care AU FOST FACUTE PUBLIC IN TIMPUL VIETII LUI.
QED
ioancasian 2 years ago
Mai mult, sustii ca esti roman dar refuzi sa dai exemple din istorie pentru ca toata istoria este legata de ortodoxie, chiar batjocoresti rolul jucat in istorie de romani.
Vorbesti de "marele Iorga" dar taci chitic cand Iorga spune ca romanii sunt ortodocsi si explica importanta manastirilor.
Te lauzi cu Wurmbrand care va contrazice toate ereziile.
Cum reusesti sa-ti minti constiinta in halul acesta?
ioancasian 2 years ago
Te faci ca nu pricepi, daca nu esti in dreapta credinta nu te mantuiesti. Sustii ca toate miile de secte protestante si neoprotestante sunt in dreapta credinta cand nici voi intre voi nu va intelegeti??
Nu moralitatea te mantuieste, ci faptul ca esti in dreapta credinta, acelasi lucru ca mai sus. Sunt budisti sau ce vrei dumneata mai morali decat toti, dar asta nu inseamna ca se vor mantui.
ioancasian 2 years ago
care dreapta credinta? cine crede in Hristos se mantuieste! Isus nu vorbeste nicaieri de dreapta (catolica, ortodoxa, protestanta) credinta!
mariushanganu 2 years ago
Imi pare rau ca din cauza limbajului pe care-l folositi sunt nevoit sa va sterg mesajele. Inteleg ca va tulbura cuvintele Parintelui Arsenie dar un minim de decenta se impune. Va voi raspunde cu placere intr-o discutie argumentata corespunzator.
ioancasian 2 years ago
nu se scrie Isus CI IISUS cu 2 de i! NU AU EXISTAT DECÂT 2 BISERICI ÎN BISERICA PRIMARĂ: Biserica de răsărit (ORTODOXĂ) ŞI Biserica de apus (CATOLICA), a se vedea marea schimă din 1054! ŞI TE VEI CONVINGE! Ιησούς (greaca nouă) în română se scrie IISUS NU Isus! În greacă veche se scrie după traducere cu 2 de Ii!
mosclaudiu 1 year ago
@mariushanganu Mai sa fie, deci dupa tine cine crede stramb se mantuieste?
Normal ca e vorba de dreapta credinta, care este ortodoxia, asa cum ii spune si numele.
calinmiron 1 year ago
Arsenie Papacioc zice ca numai ortodocsii se mantuie.
Biblia spune altceva:toti cei ce cred in DOmnul Isus Hristos vor fi mantuiti. Pavel si Sila i-au raspuns: "Crede in Domnul Isus, si vei fi mantuit tu si casa ta." (Fapt.16:31)
Cine are dreptate:Arsenie Papacioc sau Apostolii Pavel si Sila?
nellule1980 2 years ago
Mai scrie in Bilbie ca vor aparea si hristosi si prooroci mincinosi, si daca ii vei urma nu te vei mantui. Mai scrie ca numai credinta, fara fapte, iarasi nu te va mantui.
Deci au dreptate si Parintele Arsenie si Apostolii.
Te-ai lamurit cum e cu sfintii, Maica Domnului, icoanele, Sfintele Taine, samd?
ioancasian 2 years ago
No one could claim Im.Conc. has ancient roots in Church since it was established ... 19 centuries after Pentecost. Amusingly, it was fully rejected by canonized "saints" of Papism such as Bernard, Bonaventure &Aquinas.The leading early proponents of this new dogma (Eadmer+Duns Scotus) were not canonised by papism! For much of late Middle Ages, Dominicans and Franciscans violently fought over it.
Crate97 2 years ago
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kdurston1 2 years ago
For those who wish to know more on Papism
Go to OODEGR COM, Bottom right click on English Contents, then top right click on PAPISM.
Crate97 2 years ago
why is there no actual doctrinal arguments with support from the early Church Fathers on here? that is what we are looking for. what did the earliest Fathers believe about the primacy of the bishop of Rome. not what eastern Patriarchs said after 1028 AD.
kdurston1 2 years ago
In a 5 min talk?! You cannot be serious. If you wish to learn more I highly recommend the book "The Truth: What Every RC Should Know About the Orthodox Church" by Clark Calrton (Regina, Orthodox Press, 1999) esp. Chap. 4 However because most papists have no idea what we believe (e.g. they believe Bartholomew is like your Pope!) I recommend you read the entire book minus the appendices; only 190 pages. Then we can discuss things again. Good luck!
Crate97 2 years ago
why not make some Videos on the topic? It's clear that youtube is lacking such content. I would be interested in watching it. my one suggestion would to be to leave the past in the past and only talk doctrine. unless you want to make a vid on why Orth. don't trust the Catholic Church. I'll look into the book though... *sigh* another one to the 5 others i'm reading XD
kdurston1 2 years ago
Wow replying to my own messages. Pretty sad :) Only to point out that unfortunately most of the good articles on RCism are missing from translation. Only about 10% of the over 2,600 articles that include digital books (!) has been translated into English.:( But they are (slowly) working on it although it seems they add new articles every day too (!) I'll try write to them to find out more!
Crate97 2 years ago
this fellow is breathtakingly ignorant (and paranoid) about the papacy and the Catholic faith. I've always been shocked by Orthodox hostility toward Catholics, when we have nothing but love for them. Indeed, Christ said for his Church to be one, not hegemony. the irony is i'd probably be quite content at one of his sermons on morality. he has a clear understanding of the necessity of fidelity to the Gospel, albeit incomplete on the Ecumenism. i pray God Blesses him
kdurston1 2 years ago
The view on Ecumenism among the Orthodox Elders is clear, I guess you'd call it incomplete, but according to the Holy Tradition and the Holy Fathers. You kept innovating.
You have to do better than just using words such as ignorant and paranoid to prove your point.
As Orthodox, we're very aware that the Catholics "have nothing but love" for us, we remember the Crusaders in Constantinople, or the demolition with cannons of the Orthodox monasteries in Transylvania.
In Christ
ioancasian 2 years ago
oh come on, if u want to talk doctrine then you don't get to bring up secular crap from centuries past. It is clear the eastern churches broke with the Catholics, not the other way round. just read the early fathers. But the Pope celebrating mass with Catholics is offensive? we have to use leavened bread? where does it say that? the immaculate conception is heresy? where is the evidence to contradict that given by the Church? we innovated the liturgy? how? (honest questions, not being rude)
kdurston1 2 years ago
explain why the pope should be the vicar of Christ when Christ is not dead but resurrected.
balancex3 2 years ago
I'll answer ur question, when u answer mine. where does it say we must use leavened bread (Christ didn't us it)? where is there contradiction in the evidence of the doctrine of the immaculate conception provided by the Church? How did the Church innovate the liturgy? what early Church Fathers don't recognize the primacy of the authority of the Pope? we don't "answer" questions with questions in theology. I'm not treating u like a child, i expect the same treatment from u. give me evidence
kdurston1 2 years ago
Well, the "secular crap from centuries past" how you call it, we call it Holy Tradition. All we want is for you to return to the "early fathers", point clearly made at the recent closing of the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church took place in Paphos, Cyprus, see next message.
ioancasian 2 years ago
"The Ecumenical Councils and the great Fathers of the first millennium are a guarantee of the authentic theological interpretation of the sacrament of the divine economy in Christ, and of its genuine experience by the faithful in the sacrament of the Church, which, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, extends the continuous and living presence of Jesus Christ in the world, until the end of time.
There is nothing else to talk about.
ioancasian 2 years ago
no those things are not S. Tradition. S. Trad. is the deposit of Faith pased from the Apostles, through the Church Fathers to us. why St John, the Apostle, didn't protest Pope St Clement, taught by St Paul and consecrated bishop by St Peter, using papal primacy over the Corinthians. St Iraneus clearly claims primacy of the Roman pope over the whole Church. He, as i'm sure you know, is taught by St Polycarp, taught and consecrated bishop by St John. what early Fathers are you talking about then?
kdurston1 2 years ago
And exactly where does St Irenaeus "claims primacy of the Roman pope over the whole Church"??! Please provide the text.
St Irenaeus' comment has nothing to do with the pope nor primacy, it has to do with the Church at Rome.
ioancasian 2 years ago
All these departures from the Truth lead to heresy and everything started from papal primacy.
The best example of how important are the Holy Tradition, Holy Fathers, dogmas, etc. for the RC Church is the Uniat Church. They are exactly like the Orthodox but with one crucial difference, they bow down to the Pope!
More recently is the invitation of Vatican to the Anglicans, bow down to the Pope "without abandoning their entire liturgical and spiritual patrimony".
What's next, the muslims?
ioancasian 2 years ago
you haven't addressed the evidence from the early Church Fathers. you are presupposing your position is true without evidence. i'm willing to change my position if you can show me how these early fathers did not support papal primacy. again, we are not discussing Anglicans, crusades etc.
kdurston1 2 years ago
You forgot to mention St. Aloysius Stepinac canonized by John Paul II
patristic.eastern-orthodoxy com / jp2 doc
Crate97 2 years ago
I find it amazing how you speak about hostilities of Orthodox to Papism: destruction of Orthodox temples by Uniates in Ukraine, 1.5 million people slaughtered in WW2 by Ante Pavelic with the blessings of the Vatican. U also gave the world Crusades,Inquisition, and so on.
Crate97 2 years ago
(although this is all historically inaccurate) what does any of this have to do with the doctrine of the immaculate conception? how does any of it provide evidence of doctrinal contradiction in the evidence provided by the Church for the Dogma? these other issues fall under the Lord's prayer, "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those that trespass against us." All these folks have gone to their reward, whatever that may be. we however are discussing doctrine.
kdurston1 2 years ago
You're losing all your credibility by denying these crimes. General Bukow destroyed Orthodox Monasteries in Transylvania with the cannons killing in the process thousands. "Saint" Ante Pavelic, AKA 'Butcher of the Balkans', forced the serbs to convert to catholicism before killing them by the hundred of thousands and moking them, you'll go to Paradise now, you're Catholics.
ioancasian 2 years ago
Please visit IMPantocratoros gr in order to read about the heresy of Ecumenism. Bartholomew is clearly a papo-phile but still canonical; priesthood is not removed "automatically" even when one heretises. Those at the top who fall always cause grief for the Ecclesia; alas.
Crate97 2 years ago
I really like this man
ideasOFdestruction 2 years ago 4
Ecumenism now literally makes me fel SICK! Woe unto "Patriarch" Bartholomew! He is a freemason!
zebrasw7 2 years ago
Is he really a Freemason? I know some of the former Patriarchs were, but I didn't know HAH was. Joining Freemasonry is a serious, demonic mistake. I hope it's not true.
nicea2787 2 years ago
I don't think there's any evidence that His Holiness Patriarch Bartholomew is a Freemason. Unfortunately, he does inherit an attitude of compromise from his successors. May God guide him into the Truth, and I pray that the next Ecumenical Patriarch will be more traditional and right-believing- perhaps a holy monk from Mt. Athos is what we need.
Cherubicon 2 years ago
There is no evidence he is a freemason. However he is clearly a papo-phile; read impantocrator gr (visit their English section on Ecumenism).
Crate97 2 years ago
unfortunately, some orthodox hierachs are freemasons. please check for an image of the patriarchal throne of the patriarchate of jerusalem, and there above the icon of chirst you will clearly see their symbol.
nevertheless, christ will deliver us to the end, in his glory. (these issues are just minor and very earthly. i know).
zebrasw7 2 years ago
Random geometric symbols are not necessarily the masons'. But even if some were masons this is irrelevant to the Faith. They not minor in that we often suffer from their betrayal, like today thru ecumenism
Crate97 2 years ago
most of critics he made against Catholicism are acceptable but why rejecting Oecumemical initiative?
I'm afraid that such positions strenghten the status quo in division. However I'm agree with his last remark.
Cilicianghost 2 years ago
We're not against Ecumenical dialogues per se but in SOME dialogues only. The answer is given to you in the article Your Holiness WHAT pan-Orthodox decision? found at OODEGR COM in their English section (go to New Articles, second from the top)
Crate97 2 years ago
Thank you for the link. This text shows the complexity of political and human factors.
I heard one day on a Christian radio, a person belonging to an ecumenical group who said that dialog is easily experienced at a non-hierarchical level.
Cilicianghost 2 years ago
This is great!
Christos voskrese!
Nicolaj1962 2 years ago
dak nu cauta in una mai veche, scrisa cu mult inainte ca "iluminatii" tai pastori sa rescrie dupa bunul plac ce au gasit la altii.
scz ca m-am deranjat sa scriu :D (nu-s convins ca merita).
Doamne ajuta
PS: comentariul era pt nellule1980 da nush dc nu la postat ca reply
e2liviu 2 years ago
THANK YOU for the English subtitles!
Kentagurna 2 years ago
Amice mosclaudiu nu m-ai contrazis cu nici un verset,asa ca am sa continui.Mantuirea se obtine prin credinta in Domnul Isus Hristos.
"Daca ne marturisim pacatele, El este credincios si drept, ca sa ne ierte pacatele si sa ne curateasca de orice nelegiuire. (1Ioan1:9)
Ioan 3:16". Fiindca atat de mult a iubit Dumnezeu lumea, ca a dat pe singurul Lui Fiu, pentruca oricine crede in El, sa nu piara, ci sa aiba viata vecinica."
Scrie clar ORICINE crede.Domnul sa va lumineze!
nellule1980 2 years ago
APOCALIPSA 14:
3. "Şi cântau o cântare nouă, înaintea tronului şi înaintea celor patru fiinţe şi înaintea bătrânilor; şi nimeni nu putea să înveţe cântarea decât numai cei o sută patruzeci şi patru de mii, care fuseseră răscumpăraţi de pe pământ.
4. Aceştia sunt care nu s-au întinat cu femei, căci sunt feciorelnici. Aceştia sunt care merg după Miel ori unde se va duce. Aceştia au fost răscumpăraţi dintre oameni, pârgă lui Dumnezeu şi Mielului. "
mosclaudiu 2 years ago
+ Аминь ! +
kavaldzhia 2 years ago
Despre cine va fi mantuit se zice in Ioan 1
11. A venit la ai Sai, si ai Sai nu L-au primit.
12. Dar tuturor celor ce L-au primit, adica celorce cred in Numele Lui, le-a dat dreptul sa se faca copii ai lui Dumnezeu;
Concluzia este ca ORICINE crede in Isus Hristos va fi mantuit indiferent din ce cult face parte.Exclusivistii au probleme de intelegere a Bibliei f grave.
Recapitulare:ORICINE crede in Isus Hristos va fi mantuit.
nellule1980 2 years ago
APOCALIPSA 14:1. ''Şi m-am uitat şi iată Mielul stătea pe muntele Sion şi cu El o sută patruzeci şi patru de mii, care aveau numele Lui şi numele Tatălui Lui, scris pe frunţile lor.
2. Atunci am auzit un glas din cer, ca un vuiet de ape multe şi ca bubuitul unui tunet puternic, iar glasul pe care l-am auzit ca glasul celor ce cântă cu alăutele lor. "
mosclaudiu 2 years ago
voi sectarii nu sunteţi oameni. Voi sunteţi draci fără de coarne, că voi căutaţi să distrugeţi Biserica şi să-i rupeţi pe oameni de la ea, ca să-i duceţi în iad. Măcar dracii au coarne, iar voi nu aveţi deşi faceţi ca ei.
mosclaudiu 2 years ago
DA, DUPA 1514 ANI DE LA INFINTAREA CRESTINUISMULUI ATI APARUT SI VOI CA CIPERCILE DUPA PLOAIE!
SI NU TE CREDE MAI PRESUS DE HRISTOS: "Dupăcum este scris: <<Nu este drept nici unul;" ROMANI 3:10
ROMANI 3:23:
"Fiindcă toţi au păcătuit şi sunt lipsiţi de slava lui Dumnezeu,"
FILIPENI 3: 2. "Păziţi-vă de câini! Păziţi-vă de lucrătorii cei răi! Păziţi-vă de tăierea împrejur. "
mosclaudiu 2 years ago
"Nu oricine Imi zice Doamne, Doamne, va intra in Imparatia Cerurilor, ci cel ce face voia Tatalui Meu, Celui din Ceruri." (Matei 7,21) si exemple mai sunt. nu sunt eu chiar asa vrednic si nu le tin minte cu exactitate. dar dak ai fi curios ai gasi si u exemple in care Domnul nostru Iisus Hristos ne arata nu doar simpla credinta ne mantuie. asa dak nu cumva ne alaturam fariseii care stim cat au fost criticati de Domnul si Dumnezeul Nostru. asta dak e in biblia voastra asa ceva.
e2liviu 2 years ago
"Nu oricine Imi zice Doamne, Doamne, va intra in Imparatia Cerurilor, ci cel ce face voia Tatalui Meu, Celui din Ceruri." (Matei 7,21)---corect dar nu ne putem mantui prin faptele bune ci prin credinta in Domnul Isus Hristos.
nellule1980 2 years ago
pe jumatate adevarat. nu ne putem mantui dak nu credem dar nici nu ne putem mantui doar dak credem. pur si simplu nu e de ajuns. e ca si cum ne-am satura doar gandindu-ne doar la mancare. cum zicea cineva. cum a trebuit (si inca mai trebuie - nota personala) sa invatam sa "fim cetateni europeni" pentru a intra in UE tot asa trebuie sa invatam sa devenim si cetateni ai Raiului entru a ajunge acolo. si asta cere efort, sacrificii nu doar idei si meditatii
e2liviu 2 years ago
Zici bine dar nu spui tot:nu ne mantuim prin fapte bune ci prin credinta in Domnul Isus Hristos.Normal ca in urma credintei vomface fapte bune si trairea practica este finalitatea credintei. Iti dau un exemplu din Biblie:talharul de pe cruce care a crezut in Domnul Isus a fost mantuit fara sa mai aiba posibilitatea sa faca fapte bune.Sper ca ai inteles si te indemn sa citesti in special Noul Testament!
nellule1980 2 years ago
Auzi, da am si eu o intrebare: bunaoara, diavolul crede in Iisus ? Desigur ca da, mai mult decat atat, L-a si recunoscut, pe vremea cand umbla pe pamant. Bun, si atunci de ce nu se mantuieste si satana ? Huh ? Dragilor, credinta fara fapte este MOARTA, "nu oricine imi zice Doamne Doamne va intra in imparatia tatalui Meu ci numai cei ce implinesc voia Lui", va sa zica, faptele cele din credinta te mantuiesc, ca o credinta fara fapte e doar demagogie. Diavolul e cel mai clar exemplu ca sa intelegi
maxavail 2 years ago
We look forward to your new video - and praise our God and Savior Jesus Christ that this beloved Elder is alive still for us to hear! I am sharing this video far and wide! Thank you so much for providing English translation which is badly needed to be able to learn from him.
JudithMatta 3 years ago
"The vicar does not exist unless the Master is dead"! These are true words. I do not think that it is right to have the Pope. The Catholic Church is too concerned with worldly power.
CatholicandOrthodox 3 years ago 2
Va invit sa cititi Romana,limba vechii Europe sau Romanian,the first language of Europe ori macar sa vizitati grupul Originea reala a limbii romanesti.
hangeonos 3 years ago
God loves orthodox ways,because those are the closest to His truth
pravaliasu6 3 years ago
Părintele Arsenie Papacioc e unul dintre puținii preoți armăni , însă cel mai plin de har
samarra4you 3 years ago 5
Stefan cel Mare n-a fost baptist !
Mircea cel Batran n-a fost evanghelist sau adventist !
Alexandru cel Bun n-a fost martorul lui Iehova;
nebunii astia care au iesit acum. Nici o secta nu exista in tara noastra pe atunci.
Acestia vin din strainatate, platiti de masoni, sa ne strice dreapta credinta si originea noastra si radacina noastra de popor ortodox.
Părintele Cleopa
Nu mai trebuie sa adaug nimic. Citatul spune tot.
Multumim parinte Arsenie Papacioc pentu ca spuneti adevarul!
Theodor1Romania 3 years ago 11
Si este concludent ce credinta au avut oamenii mari ai Romaniei?Ca iti dau exemple de sute de oameni de stiinta din Anglia,Germania etc etc care au fost luterani,protestanti etc si au avut contributii la stiinta pe plan mondial IMENSE!Ai inteles?Crezi ca Romania este buricul pamantului?
(Robert Boyle, Michael Faradey, Isaac Newton, Lord Kelvin, Blaise Pascal, Louis Pasteur, Johannes Kepler si Ambrose Fleming,GALILEO GALILEI,ISAAC NEWTON etc etc)
nellule1980 2 years ago
Wtih all respect to Elder Arsenie Papacioc.
Orthodoxy Forever.God bless
shumkoskijove 3 years ago
The Catholic Church is behind the West's success, and it's ultimate failure.
FatherWarhol 3 years ago 6
LOL I love and respect this priest he seems to practice what he preaches. But What about Hesychasm that was not decided at the 7 Ecumenical Councils but yey you hold it to be Orthodoxy. Catholicism has always been the majority the established Church of Christ. It has committed error's and many of them but its no different in the human institution of the Orthodox Church. It has also made many mistakes with the Communist but that does not matter it does nto mean that they are not inspired.Frailty!
mariotime12 3 years ago
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Orthodoxy is too nationalistic, as opposed to the West it is truly united. And has always benn even though Europe has fought wars against each other, it was not between Catholics but really against kings. And if you are going to mention the Warrior Popes please dont because they were bad Popes. The Popes just like any of the Hyearchy of the Church can be subject to Human frailty and greed. So if you are blaming this or that on Catholics look at your own History period....
mariotime12 3 years ago
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Orthodox theology is so unreasonable its quite perplexing to the mind. But you are what they call ULTRA-traditionalist no matter what there cant be a change even if it is in discipline. A lot of monks would do this discipline especially in Syria where they would put a chain and ball so they cant move outside of a radius. But when St. Benedict saw this he told them to be chained to the love of Christ, not mere externals. That is the true spirit of what asceticism is not external breathing pattern
mariotime12 3 years ago
's and repeating one word so many times that you start illusioning "the uncreated light of God", what the Apostles have seen. This is false mysticism, called quietism and thi9s is false and completely heretical. Some people took it so far that you get so pure and holy at that point that you are no longer obliged by obedience or the Law of the Church. Look up Quietism and you will see that the Eastern's are all Platonistic in nature. Just like Abba Evagrius who was condemned as a heresy his ideas
mariotime12 3 years ago
But, then again Orthodox church did have Jesuits, witch hunts, Inquisition, abuse of indulgenses, catholic-protestant wars, agressive prozelitism in South America, crusades...
hiraeth28 3 years ago
...did NOT, I think you mean...
Vlahia2008 3 years ago
@mariotime12
You are also wrong as regards platonism. The papal philosophy originates in the writings of Augustine who was a neoplatonist. Hysechasm has nothing to do with platonism and that's evident in the writings of Saint Gregory Palamas.
Papacy expressed the nationalism of the Franks who enslaved the Romans. That was the first nationalism and was paid back by the nationalism of protestantism. Romans were not nationalists. Orthodoxy was the faith of the Romans. Now Papacy just sells...
nomust 3 years ago
...the lie that it is the early Christianity and the faith adopted by the Romans. But of course it is not the case. It is the distortion of the faith by the Frankish racist and illiterate nobility which made the biggest culture-cleansing in history, the forerunners of the nazis.
nomust 3 years ago
@mariotime12
In the ninth ecumenical council which defended hesychasm, it was exactly the platonic mysticism that was condemned (as it was condemned by the Fathers traditionally) expressed by Barlaam of Calabria who had studied in Rome and after his ideas were condemned he went back to Calabria and eventually became a papal bishop.
nomust 3 years ago
you are misleading people: Orthodoxy practices Isihasm, NOT Quietism. If anyone is interested in the matter, look up Isihasm. God bless !
maxavail 2 years ago
Otherwise known in English as, "hesychasm." St. Gregory Palamas, pray for us.
nicea2787 2 years ago
Orthodox theology is not unreasonable and perplexing at all, actually it is much less opressive then catholic faith, the priest is not a shepherd but the facilitator in communication with God, therefore it allows much more freedom and does not imply the guilt, which is something catholic church does. I guess you are not Orthodox and you rely on literature, I guess catholic. Not to mention the enlightening role Orthodox church has had.
hiraeth28 3 years ago 3
Yes, Orthodoxy is nationalistic because the Bible was tranlated in non-Greek languages early on, pagan tradition was incoroporated into the Orthodox teachings, for example, Serbs still have SLAVA, a family feast in honour of a family saint, which is a pre-christian remnant incorporated in the Serbian Orthodox Church, my slava is St. John the Baptist. Futhermore, Serbian church preserved Serbian nation, literacy, language and faith during the 600-year Turkish invasion.
hiraeth28 3 years ago
@mariontime12
You hold wrong ideas about the Ecumenical Councils. They did not invent anything. They just defended and formulated what it was already known and true. The Christian faith has not changed at all in Orthodoxy since the time of the Apostles. Hesychasm was defended in the ninth ecumenical council.
The idea of summoning synods in order to innovate things as it happened with the so-called infallibility of the Pope is foreign to Christianity and it is to be found only in Papacy.
nomust 3 years ago
Ecumenism is about all religions:
Ecumenism part of NWO - orthodox-awareness-film [Part 1]
watch?v=NEC6e8N0Wfk
all 1-8 must see.
scanmangr 3 years ago
Thank you for the great video. Orthodoxy for ever.
nomust 3 years ago 5
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ioancasian 3 years ago
Schism was caused by politcal intrests.He dosnt want to acept that the Pope s the Vicar of X't on earth.But in AD600s,the GreekChurch gave greater role to the Empror ofConstantinple,calling him the X't on Earth.GreatSchism of AD1054 was the summit of long political conflict b/n the empires of Constantnople&Rome--popes had been refusing to grant the patriarchate of Constantnopl the honor as 2nd to Rom bcoz it was untraditional(Alexandria was 2nd,followed by Antioch established by St.Petr hmself).
natsclem 3 years ago
Schism was caused by the west's twisting of the word of God, and their pope's exessive interest in the worldly affairs and power. There were five patriarchates at the time, your one left this union and created a new denomination based on heretival teachings that no true Christian could ever accept. Your sect's corruption and greed has expelled the Word of God from the West.
ngahuiae 3 years ago 7
there were popes who had that personality.there were also heads of Constantinople who were also like them.what can you say about patriarchs Photius&Michael Cerularius?Although,Photius died in communion with Rome.Only in 701 that patriarchate of Constantinople was recognized by Rome when Antioch&Alexandria were reduced into minor Xtian communities by the Muslims.The Eastern Holy Fathers had always recognized the supreme authority of Rome over all the Churches.
natsclem 3 years ago
if you are going to tell me that in the X or XI century a priest from Russia, Georgia or Asia Minor considerred the pope from Rome as his "supreme leader" and "vicar of Christ" then you'd better shut up, pal.
zaluekos 3 years ago 3
to immerse in history is to cease being Russian Orthodox.
natsclem 3 years ago
Latin catholics don't have the Proskomidi, but they commemorate the deads after the anaphora, as the byzantines do.
PhGebara 3 years ago
We Catholics even have a commemoration of the dead which we celebrate every November 2.Praying for the dead is always part of the celebration of the Eucharist.
natsclem 3 years ago
Please, write "latin catholics", because there are the eastern ones, like me, melkite, who am also byzantine and, then, I commemorate the deads at the Proskomidi.
PhGebara 3 years ago
What is Proskomidi?
natsclem 3 years ago
Proskomidi is the first part of the Divine Liturgy in byzantine rite. It is a "private" service, executed only by the priest, where he prepares the holy gifts of bread and wine, relating it, through the prayers, to the birth and sacrifice of Christ (which also conect these two events between themself).
All the Church is remember, including the dead, representing each Church's part with a bread's piece.
PhGebara 3 years ago
Many years! Many years! Many years! I was once a member of the Roman "Church", now I am by God's grace an Orthodox Christian. What a wonderful starets Elder Arsenie is!
papilot312 3 years ago 3
many years! glory to God for your conversion, and for all things!
rachelallencamus 3 years ago
may I in heaven kiss the hand of this holy father. there is no privilege like that of being in the Right-Believing Church. I am overwhelmed.
rachelallencamus 3 years ago
Rated 5 stars :)
intermose 4 years ago
We should respect everyone; that is for sure.
I have never heard of Orthodox monks who are not charitable against someone, no matter their religious background. We do live in a turmoiled world, but these people (and lay people, too) base their life on a tight connection between fasting, vigils, and charity. None works without the other and a life without charity is worth nothing, no matter how much fasting etc you'd keep, as St. John the Golden Mouth said. This is abc to any monk.
Vlahia2008 4 years ago
Being Orthodox also means understanding why you have to stick with its rules and principles. Like many others, I used to be quite relaxed myself until I saw how much sense that makes.
The stake is my soul and I am certainly not going to take that lightly. It is a shame that Christianity branched out into other confessions to the point that now young people call them "other religions" and how we should "respect" them.
Vlahia2008 4 years ago
is this holy father reposed, or does he still live?
orthodox111 4 years ago
Father Arsenie is still alive, almost 94 years old. We should have another video in English pretty soon, God willing!
ioancasian 4 years ago
God bless him. He is a witness to the truth of Orthodoxy, and not afraid of telling ecumenists they are wrong. May God grant him many years! I look forward to more videos.
orthodox111 4 years ago
Makes you wonder why is it that Orthodox monks, for all of their long services and fastings and vigils, have such little charity to the non-Orthodox.
caloyraj 4 years ago
Truth can never trounce charity or vice-versa. This father never advocates any sort of uncharitable behavior toward non-Orthodox rather he proclaims the orthodox truth against heresy. How can one say that it is uncharitable to claim that certain ideas are erroneous and others are not?
nojoso 3 years ago
Come on.. Pocaiti-va oameni buni inaintea lui Dumnezeu nu inaintea oamenilor. Si nu mai punetzi atat accentul pe denominatiune.. "Hristos in noi nadejdea Slavei"
save022 4 years ago
Such authentic and straightforward honesty is SO rare in this age of Godless compromise and ecumenism! May Elder Arsenie be blessed with every Spiritual blessing in Christ!
Protoevangel 4 years ago
For the blessed rejoining of Christ's chruch, everyone is going to have to change, not just those that left. That means even the Greeks. Us American Episcopals will have to give up immorality, the Baptists will have to give up comfort, the Catholics will probably have to give up the Pope, and Orthodox will have to loose their pride. We will all gain unity as the beloved church of Christ.
StellarHawk88 4 years ago
This priest should be Patriarch, because he speaks words of wisdom. Rather, God speaks through him!If all the Orthodox clergy were like him, we would need not worry.
Lysandros 4 years ago 2