In response to your cup & water analogy, & in context of it, what I was trying to relay was that we all hold cups (beliefs). Whether you would like to believe the cup contains water or it doesn't (believe in God or don't), you still hold a cup (belief) & you have taken a stand on what you believe what the cup does or doesn't contain.
It takes a leap of faith to claim that the created have NO creator nor an intelligent design contains NO intelligent designer.
Also, plenty of philosophers have conceded that the more knowledge you acquire the more you acknowledge you do not know! The more you know, the more you do not know! Quite Paradoxical!
I can also claim that all this information and knowledge I observe and acquire lead to me to reasonably say that I have been created as well the universe. Just like I can not negate the fact that a soda bottle doesn't appear unnaturally but is created and that it was designed, leading to its existence.
I disagree with the statement of atheism being a lack of "belief". Atheism is a lack of religious belief. Every human has a set of beliefs, that includes atheists. However,the difference is that an atheists beliefs are not religious in the sense that they don't believe in a higher power or God. If atheism truly was just a lack of "beliefs", then there would be no morals amongst atheists, which is not true.
no objective morals, yes that would be true, and since being subjective, that would actually be immoral, if they do believe in being good, as in good is good, then what they say of being good is truly void, unless we all agree on what is good universaly then we would have both a solution and a new problem. oh it's a lack of belief in GOD, which is actually is retarded if u know the definition of an atheist and being one at the same time. you cant deny logicly something varies constantly unless..
Correction: Theism is a belief in a god/gods, Atheism is a lack of a belief in a god/gods. Religion deals with rituals such as prayer and codified expectations which is not the same things as Theism. You can be an atheist yet still follow a religion such as some occultists do or a theists and not buy into religious tenets. Other than that, good response.
Corey Feldman.
12107170 11 months ago
I liked the response! Good Job.
In response to your cup & water analogy, & in context of it, what I was trying to relay was that we all hold cups (beliefs). Whether you would like to believe the cup contains water or it doesn't (believe in God or don't), you still hold a cup (belief) & you have taken a stand on what you believe what the cup does or doesn't contain.
It takes a leap of faith to claim that the created have NO creator nor an intelligent design contains NO intelligent designer.
niter87 2 years ago
Also, plenty of philosophers have conceded that the more knowledge you acquire the more you acknowledge you do not know! The more you know, the more you do not know! Quite Paradoxical!
I can also claim that all this information and knowledge I observe and acquire lead to me to reasonably say that I have been created as well the universe. Just like I can not negate the fact that a soda bottle doesn't appear unnaturally but is created and that it was designed, leading to its existence.
niter87 2 years ago
actually no the less you know the less you know. unless there is an infinite amount of knowledge to be obtained in which case it is all moot.
that soda bottle example is a nice watchmaker argument.
straw man.
justinatorator 2 years ago
I disagree with the statement of atheism being a lack of "belief". Atheism is a lack of religious belief. Every human has a set of beliefs, that includes atheists. However,the difference is that an atheists beliefs are not religious in the sense that they don't believe in a higher power or God. If atheism truly was just a lack of "beliefs", then there would be no morals amongst atheists, which is not true.
4datime 3 years ago
thank you for the semantics
justinatorator 3 years ago
no objective morals, yes that would be true, and since being subjective, that would actually be immoral, if they do believe in being good, as in good is good, then what they say of being good is truly void, unless we all agree on what is good universaly then we would have both a solution and a new problem. oh it's a lack of belief in GOD, which is actually is retarded if u know the definition of an atheist and being one at the same time. you cant deny logicly something varies constantly unless..
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
Correction: Theism is a belief in a god/gods, Atheism is a lack of a belief in a god/gods. Religion deals with rituals such as prayer and codified expectations which is not the same things as Theism. You can be an atheist yet still follow a religion such as some occultists do or a theists and not buy into religious tenets. Other than that, good response.
SuperFlyNB 3 years ago
Correction 4 me to : ) i didnt see this post till after my first post, peace!!!!
PS , dont be an Atheist SAVage
AVeLLiiii 2 years ago
"Notice the A" LMAO
LongHWin 3 years ago