All doise bends, all that friction loss. If fires right there at the door you have nothing to cover you until the line is flaked out, nothing will get through all those bends.
Would you take an unloaded gun to a gunfight and wait to load it once you are being shot at? That's the equivalent of advancing a dry line into a structure that has visible fire conditions. High-rise's are another story. You may have 15-30 floors to go to get to the floor below the fire floor. Of course you take a dry line then. But I would never take a limp noodle into a house fire. Seconds make a difference and you may not have time to radio to the engine for water. Conditions change at the d
In the door with no water, what? Plus did you see the door close over his non- charged line.....His buddy caught it and opened door, nozzle man had no clue.
The point of this load is not having to flake out the hose, depts use this load as a highrise pack because of the confined spaces. The one thing about this load is you have to charge it before advancing so it does get tangled if it's advanced and not charged it does tend to tangle. Plus the hose pressure does help with advancing the line.
My concern would be how would you advanced an uncharged hose line into a building with this load. Consider if you have a 21/2 story with an attic fire blowing out the front and back attic windows. The second floor is not envolved yet. The quickest way to get a knock down would be to get an uncharged line up to the second floor hall and flake it out. Im afraid the con fined space of the interior would not allow you to do this.
@Wa3ypx Um, actually this load, more commonly known as the "Cleavland Load" is designed in such a way that is perfect for confined spaces. It works out great in stairwells in high rises. Awesome load. Also, its the nozzelman's disgression as to when the line should be charged. Fast engine companies don't even need to call on the radio... They have it timed so that when the load is ready the water is already on the way.
@co19ff I guess its all in personal prefrence. Our city is old vacant ballon construction houses (2 1/2 -3 story) and we use a flat load with 50ft of a working length. With minimum manning of 3 to an engine, its worked. Our far east companies do use this load as described in the video, but they are all ranch homes. Works OK for them. Tnx.
All doise bends, all that friction loss. If fires right there at the door you have nothing to cover you until the line is flaked out, nothing will get through all those bends.
IXIArblargIXI 1 month ago
Would you take an unloaded gun to a gunfight and wait to load it once you are being shot at? That's the equivalent of advancing a dry line into a structure that has visible fire conditions. High-rise's are another story. You may have 15-30 floors to go to get to the floor below the fire floor. Of course you take a dry line then. But I would never take a limp noodle into a house fire. Seconds make a difference and you may not have time to radio to the engine for water. Conditions change at the d
brianps73 1 year ago
In the door with no water, what? Plus did you see the door close over his non- charged line.....His buddy caught it and opened door, nozzle man had no clue.
festavusfortherestof 1 year ago
@festavusfortherestof My thoughts exactly!
insomniaboy7474 1 month ago
The point of this load is not having to flake out the hose, depts use this load as a highrise pack because of the confined spaces. The one thing about this load is you have to charge it before advancing so it does get tangled if it's advanced and not charged it does tend to tangle. Plus the hose pressure does help with advancing the line.
crushedlt 1 year ago
My concern would be how would you advanced an uncharged hose line into a building with this load. Consider if you have a 21/2 story with an attic fire blowing out the front and back attic windows. The second floor is not envolved yet. The quickest way to get a knock down would be to get an uncharged line up to the second floor hall and flake it out. Im afraid the con fined space of the interior would not allow you to do this.
Wa3ypx 1 year ago
@Wa3ypx Um, actually this load, more commonly known as the "Cleavland Load" is designed in such a way that is perfect for confined spaces. It works out great in stairwells in high rises. Awesome load. Also, its the nozzelman's disgression as to when the line should be charged. Fast engine companies don't even need to call on the radio... They have it timed so that when the load is ready the water is already on the way.
co19ff 11 months ago
@co19ff I guess its all in personal prefrence. Our city is old vacant ballon construction houses (2 1/2 -3 story) and we use a flat load with 50ft of a working length. With minimum manning of 3 to an engine, its worked. Our far east companies do use this load as described in the video, but they are all ranch homes. Works OK for them. Tnx.
Wa3ypx 11 months ago
thats the point of the roundabout you dont have to charge the line.
chaosmaster457 2 years ago
welll was a flaw but we fixxed
bunner2009 2 years ago
in the door without a charged hose line?
spurg1970 2 years ago