MY philosophy is... if it helps me make the money they say I am going to earn and it continues to help me. I will keep going. Caveate... I would use the INCREASE in profits directly attributed to their program to pay for any continued learning. It they helped me go from 1,000/mo to 10,000/mo I would take a percentage of the increase (after taxes of course) and reinvest in another program to help me grow if that were my goal. Meritocracy works, and it works every time. Pay for production only.
Im starting a new church... Jedism, a star wars based religion, where you pay to try to become a jedi... lol fckin dumbass people, all religion is a fraud
@ceelopwv Why not just pay as you go by using the Meritocracy Method. Prove what you do is profitable and out of the ADDITIONAL profits re-invest back into the learning process. Start out with the little $50 programs, if they work (and YOU are the judge) continue with the next and the next, when they don't work, stop and get it straight until it works, or leave. Take your time, Investigate your results. If you are not getting what you want, stop going! It doesn't take Scientology to defraud you
Dont worry you two, you did it because you were brainwashed, already there. Think about it, why do you two think you stayed there almost a whole day? Exactly because he needed to brainwash you first. Remember people wouldnt stay with a guy they dont know a whole day, unless it was very interesting to hear him. It was interesting to hear him, cause for every second you were there, the more brainwash did you gain, until you were that brainwashed you just handled your credit card to him.
@AngeliaClaire You sound funny, but in all seriousness If you look & read all the interviews on the net of ex scientology couples, it's always the wife who tells her husband not to do it, and they end up doing it anyway and afterwards getting her involved. And it's usually her that ends up pulling them out too. So there might be something to that women's intuition afterall.
I suspect that Scientology will basically be dead in 1 or 2 generations. As long as video sites like this are available to document their shady actions then there will always be a negative stigma attached to their religious cult. Currently, Scientology is losing the PR war with its critics.
The Scientology Tone levels are all bullshit & you can get the correct info about personality types at your local community college & it'll hardly cost you anything!
well, they arent told about that until they have been involved with the church for quite a while. once uv spent $100,000 in training and auditing its very difficult to accept uv been scammed.. im sure most all people who get to that point are deeply conflicted about what their being told but cant stand the thought of walking away from their lifes savings and the idea of happyness they were promised
Because you're supposed to pay 500,000 dollars minimum in order to hear the story. If you heard it for free then you are an abberated SP, PTS homosapus. If you pay the money then you are a homonovus OT superman.
You saw a Devil coming out of a volcano??? You see that you R U N R U N R U N. Don't stick around if you see devils coming out of a volcano. RUN lady RUN.
Well, what these people tell ... sounds like they talk about a money grabbing CULT! This has so nothing to do with a religion. Scientology is so much a cult and so dangerous. And those scilons here on YT who try to wash our brains with the lies you tell: you fail. Truth about your cult is revealed.
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What is their point? They didnt like it. Life goes on. For every one of them there are 100 of those who love it. Whoever made this is really reaching .....
no, but some asshole in a cheap suit shoves a scient flyer in my face whenver i walk down yonge street, i told the next time he prodded me he would get a fat scientological punch in the face, f u and your fake ass cult
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So Serge you are one of those cowards who likes to act tough. You couldnt scare anything other than your bathroom mirror. Now shut your mouth kissy and go bother another room ...
Typical cult response - seen it used by other scam artists and cults of every kind. First, there is no such statistic except pulled out of one's buttocks. Second, "satisfaction rate" does not excuse a fraud, and in fact is MORE incriminating because is shows the scam is more successful. Third, turning an established victim into someone who was simply unhappy is re-victimizing them in order to change the facts. The points go on ... You sir, are a cult-drone in your thinking.
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lets try this lady it might help , for what i have heared you got no case so far , is all hear say no evidence what so ever , let me try this : can you describe to me 1 rose that you have noticed to look at and describe it as it was without you adding all the extras which gets created by one own immagination ? just the rose .
Mark: Thanks a ton for posting this. Very interesting.
Funny how it always comes down to your credit cards or bank accounts. not being catholic I could still walk into any church & ask to talk to a priest or do confession & NO ONE would say 'give me your credit cards' ... $cientology has no right to call themselves a 'church'
" $cientology has no right to call themselves a 'church'"
Sure they do. They also have the right to call themselves a ham sandwich if they want. So, they can call themselves a church until they're blue in the face, and we can call them a criminal enterprise, or looney nut-cult if we want.
How about this - do they deserve to be a tax free organization? They don't ask for donations, they demand money for their courses. If you don't pay, you can't play. And if you pay and don't get results, shouldn't it fair that you get a portion of your money back? Good luck, Scientology doesns't give refunds, not even partial refunds.
How about instead of calling CO$ a cult, we call it scam because that's what it is.
the problem is if the government trys to remove the tax free status COS has a very high profile legal team to fight it. and they would most likely win. they offer refunds on the course ur taking at the time u wanted out. but u have to sign a peace of paper that says u have no other claim against them, so u cant get ALL ur money back. the arguement being u must have been happy with the previous courses if u didnt quit then so why should we refund u for something u were happy with.
Yeah, know what you mean, I have the same problem with those tapes of L Ron Hubbard's. Actually find those worse because he goes off at a tangent a lot. For instance he was giving a reasonable lecture on the atmosphere on venus and then suddenly told us about being run over by a freight train. Well we were all like, yeah we get it, but we really didn't and he didn't notice.
its called a testimonial where people talk about there experiences.... its not a court room..... i really liked how she didn't think too much about what she said and she really opened up i think she is brave for being so candid
She's recounting her own personal experience, dumbass. Of course her statements are based on feelings and thoughts. It's not like she's been researching Scientology, she's just talking about what happened to her.
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Still feels like a waste of an hour of time. She's so focused on the little things that might mean a lot to her that the big picture is being obscured.
its the people that run CO$ that are the bad ones, not so much the people that try to beilve the wacky story, so dont beilve what the media allways saids....
That about sums it up, but it's surprising how many people think they need help. Most people want to improve something in their lives. Some are weak but this business seminar scam targets people you expect to be quite smart, yet it still works. There are however examples of business cults that work very well on large corporations and governments; they offer to improve business process with their patented snake oil, aka methodology, and companies pay thousands just for a certificate.
Don't be a suppressive person now. LOL. My workplace was infiltrated by this last year. I exposed it and quit.
sunangel3 1 month ago
MY philosophy is... if it helps me make the money they say I am going to earn and it continues to help me. I will keep going. Caveate... I would use the INCREASE in profits directly attributed to their program to pay for any continued learning. It they helped me go from 1,000/mo to 10,000/mo I would take a percentage of the increase (after taxes of course) and reinvest in another program to help me grow if that were my goal. Meritocracy works, and it works every time. Pay for production only.
ihamdaman 10 months ago
Im starting a new church... Jedism, a star wars based religion, where you pay to try to become a jedi... lol fckin dumbass people, all religion is a fraud
ceelopwv 1 year ago
@ceelopwv Why not just pay as you go by using the Meritocracy Method. Prove what you do is profitable and out of the ADDITIONAL profits re-invest back into the learning process. Start out with the little $50 programs, if they work (and YOU are the judge) continue with the next and the next, when they don't work, stop and get it straight until it works, or leave. Take your time, Investigate your results. If you are not getting what you want, stop going! It doesn't take Scientology to defraud you
ihamdaman 10 months ago
Dont worry you two, you did it because you were brainwashed, already there. Think about it, why do you two think you stayed there almost a whole day? Exactly because he needed to brainwash you first. Remember people wouldnt stay with a guy they dont know a whole day, unless it was very interesting to hear him. It was interesting to hear him, cause for every second you were there, the more brainwash did you gain, until you were that brainwashed you just handled your credit card to him.
globe255 1 year ago
well he wouldn't be doing my dental work.
Always trust a womans intuitions!
AngeliaClaire 1 year ago
@AngeliaClaire You sound funny, but in all seriousness If you look & read all the interviews on the net of ex scientology couples, it's always the wife who tells her husband not to do it, and they end up doing it anyway and afterwards getting her involved. And it's usually her that ends up pulling them out too. So there might be something to that women's intuition afterall.
lauraleesmithagain 1 year ago
@lauraleesmithagain yeah well I MYSELF would 've walked out and not sign a dang thing
AngeliaClaire 1 year ago 2
@AngeliaClaire 18,000 dollars is not chump change. that is a new car or a downpmnt for a home! ;)
AngeliaClaire 1 year ago
Good video
richardbealey100 2 years ago
If more people were like this dentist's wife, scientology would be dead by now.
SharksKid 2 years ago 2
I suspect that Scientology will basically be dead in 1 or 2 generations. As long as video sites like this are available to document their shady actions then there will always be a negative stigma attached to their religious cult. Currently, Scientology is losing the PR war with its critics.
Hermetiqa 2 years ago
I wish L Ron was buried so I could shit on his grave every fucking week!
darthspeaks 2 years ago 5
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ChuckNorrisCutsMyLaw 2 years ago
Amen I would piss on Hubbard's grave every chance I got
ChuckNorrisCutsMyLaw 2 years ago
The Scientology Tone levels are all bullshit & you can get the correct info about personality types at your local community college & it'll hardly cost you anything!
Yoganao 2 years ago
My question is - do they really believe this alien/Xenu/volcano story? If they do, then it really makes me wonder about them - even more.
jhr459 3 years ago 3
well, they arent told about that until they have been involved with the church for quite a while. once uv spent $100,000 in training and auditing its very difficult to accept uv been scammed.. im sure most all people who get to that point are deeply conflicted about what their being told but cant stand the thought of walking away from their lifes savings and the idea of happyness they were promised
lejink 2 years ago
Why do scientologist lie about the XENU story?
What would it matter if people knew they were a UFO Cult?
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago
Because you're supposed to pay 500,000 dollars minimum in order to hear the story. If you heard it for free then you are an abberated SP, PTS homosapus. If you pay the money then you are a homonovus OT superman.
taichibailongball 3 years ago
You saw a Devil coming out of a volcano??? You see that you R U N R U N R U N. Don't stick around if you see devils coming out of a volcano. RUN lady RUN.
998987987698765 3 years ago
How about instead of calling CO$ a cult, we call it scam because that's what it is. People should stop buying in to this Scamatology.
80Perkele 3 years ago 3
Hahaha!
taichibailongball 3 years ago
arugh why would you give them your card numbers!!!!
GabrielGrewal 3 years ago
Well, what these people tell ... sounds like they talk about a money grabbing CULT! This has so nothing to do with a religion. Scientology is so much a cult and so dangerous. And those scilons here on YT who try to wash our brains with the lies you tell: you fail. Truth about your cult is revealed.
mollie2810 3 years ago 2
Damn.. Fifteen grand's a years tuition at any number of top-flight business schools.
-jcr
NSResponder 3 years ago
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What is their point? They didnt like it. Life goes on. For every one of them there are 100 of those who love it. Whoever made this is really reaching .....
Pityanonymous 3 years ago
Their point is, they were defrauded, and that's a crime.
Hubbard was a crook, Miscavige is a crook, and so are the rest of the leaders of your criminal nut-cult.
-jcr
NSResponder 3 years ago 5
they dont really like it they are just telling themselves that arouund the corner after paying the next 10grand they will attain happiness
Serge808 3 years ago
Serge have you ever taken a Scn course?
Pityanonymous 3 years ago
no, but some asshole in a cheap suit shoves a scient flyer in my face whenver i walk down yonge street, i told the next time he prodded me he would get a fat scientological punch in the face, f u and your fake ass cult
Serge808 3 years ago 3
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So Serge you are one of those cowards who likes to act tough. You couldnt scare anything other than your bathroom mirror. Now shut your mouth kissy and go bother another room ...
Pityanonymous 3 years ago
you're just dumb
Serge808 3 years ago
You're one to talk, buddy.
Dreadpirate46 3 years ago
Typical cult response - seen it used by other scam artists and cults of every kind. First, there is no such statistic except pulled out of one's buttocks. Second, "satisfaction rate" does not excuse a fraud, and in fact is MORE incriminating because is shows the scam is more successful. Third, turning an established victim into someone who was simply unhappy is re-victimizing them in order to change the facts. The points go on ... You sir, are a cult-drone in your thinking.
RiddickNews 3 years ago 4
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ToryluvsLRH 3 years ago
sounds like the good old nigerian scam
moakley 3 years ago 3
americans *sigh*
FraterO 3 years ago
Yea, because only Americans fall for this tripe... right? I wish this thing was quarantined in one country.
puffymuppet 3 years ago 2
His words are wise, his face is beard!! Thank you for posting this Mark!
AnonymousAgentWISE 3 years ago 4
"just gimme all your credit card numbers"
A church does not ask for that.
Eskimobob525767 3 years ago 31
Neither does Scientology. they say "Give me all your money" they dontcare if its via credit card, cheque or cash =D
Anon01942 3 years ago 3
Do they take cashiers checks? I'm in!!!
puffymuppet 3 years ago
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lets try this lady it might help , for what i have heared you got no case so far , is all hear say no evidence what so ever , let me try this : can you describe to me 1 rose that you have noticed to look at and describe it as it was without you adding all the extras which gets created by one own immagination ? just the rose .
justbeinpeace 3 years ago
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hehehehehe , wow lets write a script about it , and you play the " wife of the dentist"
realy impressive make believe style.
justbeinpeace 3 years ago
Vampire takes your blood, you become one too. Scientologist takes your money, you become one too. Pattern? What pattern?
theninjapope 3 years ago 11
Mark: Thanks a ton for posting this. Very interesting.
Funny how it always comes down to your credit cards or bank accounts. not being catholic I could still walk into any church & ask to talk to a priest or do confession & NO ONE would say 'give me your credit cards' ... $cientology has no right to call themselves a 'church'
freddysnotdead 3 years ago 18
" $cientology has no right to call themselves a 'church'"
Sure they do. They also have the right to call themselves a ham sandwich if they want. So, they can call themselves a church until they're blue in the face, and we can call them a criminal enterprise, or looney nut-cult if we want.
-jcr
NSResponder 3 years ago 4
NSR ... I can agree with that.
Pityanonymous 3 years ago
no, cus they're just a bunch nutjobs
LETHLSS 3 years ago
How about this - do they deserve to be a tax free organization? They don't ask for donations, they demand money for their courses. If you don't pay, you can't play. And if you pay and don't get results, shouldn't it fair that you get a portion of your money back? Good luck, Scientology doesns't give refunds, not even partial refunds.
How about instead of calling CO$ a cult, we call it scam because that's what it is.
Dreadpirate46 3 years ago 5
the problem is if the government trys to remove the tax free status COS has a very high profile legal team to fight it. and they would most likely win. they offer refunds on the course ur taking at the time u wanted out. but u have to sign a peace of paper that says u have no other claim against them, so u cant get ALL ur money back. the arguement being u must have been happy with the previous courses if u didnt quit then so why should we refund u for something u were happy with.
lejink 2 years ago
She was just picking up on the all encompassing creepiness of scifaggery.
Its a pity she didn't go with her first impression and run for the (probably locked) door instead falling for the "time share", "one day only" pitch.
Skintologist 3 years ago 12
"Get rid of your wife." *THAT* is Scientology.
Desertphile 3 years ago 36
"Get rid of your wife." *THAT* is Scientology.
Desertphile 3 years ago 11
Ah, a nicer version than the RealMedia version. Thank you. I'd love to see a better version of the Scott Mayer testimony. :-)
Desertphile 3 years ago 4
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This woman sounds retarded. Not only is she taking far too long to tell her story, but everything she's saying is based on feelings and thoughts.
There might be some facts here, but too long to dig through it.
Brickcaster 3 years ago
Yea man I know. Really sucks having to talk about thoughts. I prefer when people just stare at the camera for 60 minutes strait and dont talk.
Grumbah 3 years ago 6
Yeah, know what you mean, I have the same problem with those tapes of L Ron Hubbard's. Actually find those worse because he goes off at a tangent a lot. For instance he was giving a reasonable lecture on the atmosphere on venus and then suddenly told us about being run over by a freight train. Well we were all like, yeah we get it, but we really didn't and he didn't notice.
anonymous1312 3 years ago 4
its called a testimonial where people talk about there experiences.... its not a court room..... i really liked how she didn't think too much about what she said and she really opened up i think she is brave for being so candid
ohbuddyiliketowatch 3 years ago 7
She's recounting her own personal experience, dumbass. Of course her statements are based on feelings and thoughts. It's not like she's been researching Scientology, she's just talking about what happened to her.
ExpectUsRVA 3 years ago 4
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Still feels like a waste of an hour of time. She's so focused on the little things that might mean a lot to her that the big picture is being obscured.
Brickcaster 3 years ago
It's her story she can focus on whatever the fuck she wants to. If you feel like your time is being wasted, don't watch it.
ExpectUsRVA 3 years ago 8
Remember, our savior Tom Cruise died for our sins and rose from the dead to get a leading role in Top Gun.
Clausfarre 3 years ago 4
L Ron Hubbard books, magazines, comics, video games, stickers, coloring books, action figures, cook books, t-shirts, hats, billy clubs, picture frames, oil filter, brake pads, yo-yos, shaving cream, pancake mix, cement mix, fabric softener, unleaded gas, humidifiers, pocket knives, pocket monsters, boomerangs, stilts, unicycles, pogosticks, chopsticks, golf tees, iced tea, shoe polish, operating systems, dowsing sticks, speedos, multivitamins, tattoos, fighting skills, smoke alarms, tempura, ...
kingofthekrill 3 years ago 7
its the people that run CO$ that are the bad ones, not so much the people that try to beilve the wacky story, so dont beilve what the media allways saids....
dylanshane 3 years ago
This lady is proof:when your heart says NO,listen.This lady knew the LRH books meant trouble.
blackwhimsy 3 years ago 7
March 15'th the world will see the repercussions of this cult...
johnnonymous13 3 years ago 9
that's one $crewed up cult alright!
March 15
NatureLegalized 3 years ago 10
Keep on going beard man we love you.
nastiebutler 3 years ago 9
I would love to join this CULT...
boycalledx 3 years ago 3
exactly u either know its a cult and want the power or your just totally needing help and being taken advantage of
ohbuddyiliketowatch 3 years ago
That about sums it up, but it's surprising how many people think they need help. Most people want to improve something in their lives. Some are weak but this business seminar scam targets people you expect to be quite smart, yet it still works. There are however examples of business cults that work very well on large corporations and governments; they offer to improve business process with their patented snake oil, aka methodology, and companies pay thousands just for a certificate.
anonymous1312 3 years ago 6
I truly hope these shysters are taken down.
ShortbusMooner 3 years ago 8
Scientology is a fucking piece of donkey shit
explorefuckabee 3 years ago 9
That, sir, is an insult to donkey shit everywhere!
MightyBigTool 3 years ago 21
i second that
mikemikemofo 3 years ago 3
You know intelligent answers are gonna come from an idiot named "Mightybigtool"! LMAO!! I love coming in here and slapping you clowns around!
ToryluvsLRH 3 years ago