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  • @228whpEG- coming from someone with a piece of shit honda civic.

    who needs an overpriced undertorqued piece of shit riceburner like

    the supra when the LS1 Camaros are FASTER stock and costs 1/3 the PRICE

    and still YET costs less to mod

    LS1 z28s like the One I Bought go for $7-9 grand, you ain't getting even a

    beat up N/A Supra for that. and they went 12.9-13.3 stock, turbo supra went 13.5

    fucking ricerfag.

  • Corny ass rice comments, to each their own... people that judge usually have small penis and live with their mom still.. Those that talk shit usually hate everyone thats doing better... u hate a supra but i bet you cant afford one lmao.... u ignorant loser

  • fuck rice-burners. MUSCLE RULES.

  • even if supras are fast, it is still an ugly, rice-burning jap shitbox

    with a mosquito sounding fart can, egg looks, and basket handle

    I'd take the good old GN over it

  • Whats the point of this video? Both have the strongest engines to modify the hell out of and both straight 6's

  • @MrStlover99 V-6 in the GN

  • These cars are distant cousins. Supra was Japan's Grand National

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  • Supras are not ricers. You guys are retards

  • Tuners = ricers with money.

  • "a ricer is any japanese (sports) car"- that is absolute fukin BULLSHIT.

    ricer is civic with body kits and fart can. tuner is supra, grand national, or 3000GT(or other FAST, Purpose Built Car) just upgraded with Engine mods and can handle the power.

    Know the difference before bashing.

  • @chuckmekere ummm ur wrong the grand national is qualified under muscle car not tuner. and u said a rice is a civic with body kits........no no no mr. 14 year old........a ricer is a car that looks fast and sounds fast but isnt fast. a civic can have a body kit and rims and a fart can. but under the hood. can be a k20 turbocharged engine full built running 8's on the quarter. you will never know a ricer till u look under its hood...

  • @SIKxRECONx - my mistake. I was responding to those people who said a ricer is any japanese car. They are the real 14 year olds.

  • @chuckmekere OK

  • @chuckmekere agreed, but a gn is not a tuner

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  • I hate ricers, little pieces of shit keep getting stuck in my Peterbilts fender wells.

  • The sound of a 2jz is like auditory climax! Sweet GN as well!

  • i hate people that say ricer lol so idiotic to judge someone who likes a different car than you ...... ooooo you like fast cars that are more from this generation, grow up, and stop living in the past. muscle is amazing of course, but we live in 2011 lol tuners are here to stay and people who enjoy ALL forms of cars will respect them like i do

  • @INNERFACE69 sure, but remember that there's a big difference between a "tuner" and a "ricer"

  • @simpsonfan13 yeah but a ricer is more comon to own a tuner (or fake tuner) but people are calling this guy who owns a pretty awsome machine, a ricer. and thats retarded

  • @INNERFACE69 very well said..

  • I got an 87 gn and it's a bad add fucking car

  • Supras and Grand National or both bad ass cars. It's like comparing Supra vs Supra or GN vs GN. Both amazing machines with plenty of potential.

  • Supras are so sexy!

  • Supras have a lot of potential, but Ill take a GN over most anything out there. INSANE potential and killer looks to boot. The car screams evil.

  • What a good race, v6 vs v6, both turbo cars but the supra may be twin turbo. I'd love to have both cars. I'd have me some good sounding stereo in both and I'd have them both running mid to low 11's and still be getting like 20mpg to the store and back with the ac blasting and everyday would be a good day.

  • @jylp4u Actually its Inline 6 vs V6 FWIW.

  • @jylp4u I bet the supra has 3 times more money invested in its drive train to get it to go like that.

  • @jylp4u The GN could run 11's all day long and still get uppwards of 30-40 MPG if tuned right, I forget what year or issue but CarCraft mag. done an article on a 1987 Buick GN that ran 10:90's (if I remember right) and gets over 20MPG. carcraft.com/featuredvehicles/­ccrp_0507_1987_buick_grand_nat­ional_readers_pages/index.html

  • to me the supra is in the same class as the grand national both are rwd turbocharged 6cyl cars and are just plain fast!!!

  • @1978mtb very true, but unfortunately, buick was too ignorant. the GN has a mean motor, but put it in a heavy ass car. Not trying to knock the supra, they are no joke.

  • @ariel4more. The GN is lighter then most of todays cars 3200-3500lbs depending on features. Todays car with all the safety features makes them tip the scales read motortrend and car and driver. They both said todays cars weigh about the same as cars did in 1973 and look at the boats they were!!! Wanna see a tank? Check out a 76 grand national pace car with the 3.8 turbo putting out 306 hp which is much heavier then the 80's models and it outperformed the 75 model with the 455. the

  • The GN is one bad ass car. enough said

  • SUpras are not ricers lol

  • Yes sir, pure american mucle. MADE IN USA

  • ur an idiot man, so does your gn haha

  • @yostmaster1993 you seem to be all about imports

    but when is the last time you saw a 4 banger crank out 8,000HP and run a 1/4 mile in 4.66 seconds like pure american muscle does?

  • @immadodgeguy I agree with you yostmaste1993 is just a kid that has never been to the track and has never seen a real race expect on youtube. yostmaster1993 sounds like a nut swinging import tard and the only way he will learn is to go out into the real world and race some real cars, I dont care if their import or not.

  • @QuickSSilver98 hey man i role deep in indianapolis with a turboed g35 500whp, and a twin turboed g35 700whp, and im ordering twins for my in janurary, if you think you can beat me in a race hit me up! you will here a spool and you wont even know what happened, and dont say i dont race, i role with the indy street kings the baddest click in naptown

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  • @immadodgeguy

    japanese guys could build a drag car thats runs 4's with thier eyes closed,but they dont u know why?,they actually care about handling............retard....­..

  • haha ill take that supra any day! u know how dumb and old you guys look in those pos gm's??? haha and duh u beat him he probably still has the stock twins!! haha try a 1200 hp supra then tell me ricers suck haha! I drive an infiniti g35 and i love poopin on u dumb gm's haha its glorious! all it means if you have a gm is that you are a white trash redneck nascar lover! get some class, we live in the 21 century, now act like it!

  • @yostmaster1993

    Too bad supras need turbos to do anything.

  • @undeadkillers so.... this grand national is stock? haha ur an idiot! prime example of nascar loving muscle head! don't get me wrong love old school, but thats the problem, there old, new imports i.e. supra's gtr's and such will spank any muscle you put on the line! haha all you guys are just as annoying as all the fart can civics! cause your cars smoke and they break down

  • @yostmaster1993

    Did i say that it was stock? No. I just said that supras need turbo to even make power.

  • @undeadkillers The GN needs a turbo to make power too whats your fucking point. Its a fucking awesome car. Who cares how it makes its power.

  • @yostmaster1993 The GN is not stock duh. But you saying the old school is behind the new imports is just stupid and crazy. I like cany car that looks good and can go fast so tell me this if i took a BBC fox body stang to the track vs a "new import" do you think the new import would win. New dont always mean better I could take a old car and make it just as fast if not faster than your "new import" stop being biased and stupid.

  • @undeadkillers The GN is turbo also just 10 years older :)

  • @yostmaster1993 so anyone that takes their classic re built ford,chevy, dodge to a car show is white trash? You need to grow up, you drive a Infiniti g35 please direct your self to reality were any car can be fast, and driving that Infiniti g35 kinda makes you the smartest retard in class.

  • u guys can have you pos chevys all day hahah, my "ricer" i.e. Infiniti g35 will spank most cars on the road and looks way sexier than ur dumb gm's pos's........ BAD RATINGS FOR ALL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @yostmaster1993 Your mid 14's chick version of a Nissan spanks most cars on the road? No, you're right in the same bracket as most cars on the road. Sorry, bud.

  • @yostmaster1993 shut up kid camaro's and corvette's would dog walk your over priced nissan girls car.........Obviously I like supra's I own one but I love grand national's, faster then your pos that's for sure, You need to show some respect to the old muscle car's too, they started it all

  • @supraturboLBJ dude thank you. There is beauty in all cars. I own a 1993 supra and a 70 chevelle . People always are all about one type of car. Henry Ford deserves more respect than anyone

  • @williamthedoggy Me and my brother are looking for a 1970 chevelle SS we want to build one from the frame up.........I believe a true car enthusiast likes all type's of car's......I like anything car/truck/jet whatever as long as it's stupid fast!!!

  • @supraturboLBJ I kno they started it but im tired of these hilljacks comin in and talkin like they are better than imports just because they say so, and my over priced nissan? man honestly have you looked at supras pricing 40k for a decent one!? but anyway one my car is not a pos, anyone can take a beater and make it a drag car, but whats hard is taking a classy car and doing that, i personally like the old 67 gto's and that entire era, but im sick and tired of people that talk bad about imports

  • whatch that rice burner getting beat

  • @MrGmfreak01 also ur an idiot cause thats not a rice burner, in fact his car is probably worth 20k more than that pos GN

  • whing ding ding, another ricer gets spanked.

  • @msqtube haha and this guy probably owns a broke down beater which is the equivalent to a ricer in the import world, haha

  • CHEVY IS THE BEST BEAST TO BEAT lol lol lol and dadis CHEVY IS GM SO WATCH OUT some how i thinckl GM is one of the best engines builders in the world check ULTIMA GTR ,BARABUS TKR, AERO ULTIMASSC , MOSLERMT900.WEINECK COBRA.PLETORE LS750, TRIDENT ACENI, etc etc etc all this cars use THE MOST POPULAR GM ENGINE THE 427ci or should i say the 7.0 liter vettes engine HAVE FUN.

  • V8 GM small or big block WILL SMOKE ANY THING AND YUOLL KNOW THAT

  • whats the deal with the bad rating

    he is right

  • i totally agree with you

  • the supra sounds like a poppy seed grinder

  • well at least the one tuner i like beat the gn and only barely

  • Here are the times supra 11.651 and GN12.342 so pretty close and for a gn little v6 thats pretty good

  • they are like tied

  • Those cars are the bests of both worlds!!!

  • did the supra win? it looks like it did

  • Week start with the GN...

  • Ok imma have to agree with ApexiDesign..that's why FOREIGN cars sells more...lol but i do LOVE Grandnationals. The ONLY Muscle i will get.

  • im sorry but if this is the only muscle you would consider, then ur really missing out. Nova's, Chevelle's, Challengers, Chargers, Camaro's....I can tell ur a boost junky if u dont like muscle cars, but sit in a 700hp 454 Nova II....it'll definitely change ur mind on that subject lol

  • not to nitpick but its chevy ll :)

  • Not to nitpick but it's buick not chevy.

  • i know the video has a national in it which is made by buick yes i know,but i was commenting on what the fellla above me said,he said a 700hp 454 nova ll when its a chevy ll

  • a ricer to me is a guy who drives a 4 banger that make less that 175 hp, does 0-60 in more that 7.5 sec makes his car look dumb and tries to race people.

  • @mazda6tuner99

    Looks fast. Isn't fast.

  • @mazda6tuner99 That's pretty good for a 4 banger that is N/A, LMFAO!!!

  • @PoorBoy1979 thats actually not a for banger its a v6

  • @ajhgfhgjbjhbjhb straight six, but whatever

  • @mazda6tuner99 a ricer is an asian imported car hence RICER cause you dont see m3s being called ricers like you see hondas and toytas being called hondas.

  • @MrAMERICANxMUSCLE

    you're a typical incestuous swine loving redneck bigot, wtf do you know about ricing out a car, go bopping for apples at the trailer park olympics

  • @daddyjunkie i didnt know they had rednecks of apple olympics in the middle of downtown seattle!! i love your ignorant comments like that! cause im no redneck dipshit so say what you want! but if im a redneck for liking american muscle then you must be a slant eye pussy bitch for liking jap cars? am i right? no, so why do you fucking idiots sterotype everyone else? get a life.

  • @MrAMERICANxMUSCLE

    The difference is I never hated on domestics, read my other posts and check my uploads, I'm a fan of any extraordinary piece of machinery. Its what ppl badmouth fine automotive work with a shallow understanding of it that irks me. Say what you want about fartcan civics pushing 90hp to the wheels, but the supra's in a league of its own

  • @daddyjunkie and so is the grand national.

  • @MrAMERICANxMUSCLE

    yea, i agree, rare quality american car

  • @mazda6tuner99 I agree with your definition of ricer, however you left out a few things. The majority of them are wrong wheel drive, I mean front wheel drive. You cant forget the massive rear spoiler on a fwd car. If the majority of your mods are for apearance or sound (fart cans and huge subs) then you are definiatly a ricer. I almost forgot, Lambo doors on econo boxes. Just because the car came from japan doesnt make it rice. Idiots make a car rice.

  • @donwonjon420 and the cheap do it ur self window tint that bubbles up lmao

  • @mazda6tuner99 haha so my olds 88 only made 170 does that make me a ricer. I mean it has a 3.8 v6

  • @KoolCordell well lets see, its ugly, yeah, slow yea, do u make ur self look like a dumbass who tries to race people even tho u loose every time..if yes, sure bud ur a ricer

  • @mazda6tuner99 I once beat a honda civic LOL

  • @mazda6tuner99 to me a ricer is ANY Japanese car

  • @mazda6tuner99 ive got a v6 that only makes 170hp haha..im soo ashamed.

    

  • @mazda6tuner99 Well your saying the supra driver isnt a ricer then right? Cause it is none of those, Inline six, 0-60 in 4.9, and 320 Hp. All stock. So no ricer?

  • @juggerjew Most people who buy supra's tune them right. Usually clean and simple. Supra is far from rice my friend

  • @mazda6tuner99 Okay just making sure we are on the same page. I cant even think of calling a Supra a ricer.

  • @mazda6tuner99

    Pretty much sums it up

  • the grand national is originally a turbo charged 3.8l v6

  • my two favorite cars right here

  • My thoughts exactly!!!

  • Aero-dynamics? We don't need no shtinking aero-dynamics!!! X-D

    GN all the way!

  • the supra is not a ricer

    is an import

    ricers are hondas and acuras

    that type of shit

    cheap nissans, corollas from toyota

    imports are: skyline, supra, nsx, 300zx, evo, GTR, and shuch

  • those are all imports you dumbshit

  • that's exactly what i just said

  • And it really makes me laugh to see people fight over which is better when all engines are kindred in nature(except the wankel)they all have pistons,rods,cranks,valves etc. so reaaly its a stupid argument over whos fucking coolaid tastes better its the same fucking thing who gives a fuck who or what nation made them they are still a copy of an american original.

  • Obviously the supra had a damn site more power!

  • damn got side tracked...the wing thing on the street is kinda useless because your not hitting speeds where you would need one that size, I'm still using my stock spoiler...looks fine because it's not an airplane

  • america does'nt make cars like they used too, I hate the newer domestic cars, except the challenger, mustang, vette, 2009 camaro and that's it we need more to offer for people that are wanting to build more hp and have budgets. the neon srt4 is a good start though. The grand national was a beast and a car I think they should bring back and not change it to much, the state police used to use them here in connecticut...such a waste

  • plus all imports have different sounds, civics all sound the same and you can't do shit do a camry, some people try. My 240 has a very deep rumble and you will never hear a high pitched whine like you hear from other cars like civics. It's just the nature of the beast, the wing thing only works on cars with real hp and rear wheel drive, not front wheel drive 90hp lime green cars. like alot of hondas in my area and they make us all look bad

  • are you guys are kidding me right!? your basing your knowledge on a few slow ass civics and guys that buy all their parts from pepboys. granted fast and the furious did more damage than good to create the ricers you see today. There are plenty of real import muscles out there and the supra is one! The exhaust notes are'nt anymore annoying than some cherrybombs driving down my street rattling my windows!

  • who won it looked like the gn was catching up,and i dont think he built his boost up good that car should of launced better then it did

  • nice quite GN....didn't even hear it running over that supra

  • give me the v6 G-body anyday!!

  • jajajaj grand national rules

  • the jap had traction problems,but it did beat the g.n.personally i would buy the gran national if i had the chance,nice back seat to fuck....lol...

  • Amen to that brother.. had a 69 Buick Skylark 2 door. 350 small block with all the mods and a huge back seat...Had some beautiful moments in the back of that car..and in the driver's seat.

  • lol who would what a rice burner all they do is bother everyone with there fart cans an gay ass wings

  • LOL yep..I've got a few on my street. They are like pesky flies that won't go away even after ya swat a time or two

  • so many here omg, 1 muscle car will smoke all of these fags cars lol, everytime u drive here ull see a civic or camry every 15 seconds omg

  • You do realize that a supra and a GN have the same type of engine right?

    so how is a supra a rice burner?

    in my opinion the toyota supra is by far one of the greatest japanese imports out there. but hands down the best cars come frome germany!!!

  • nope, buick made the v6 japs justed ripped it off, an that supra might have 2 turbos if so gice that GN the same turbo as it already has thats atleast another 60 to 80 hp , the GN wouldve won, an the supra is a rice burner becuz it is a import, germnay doesnt have shit, when america was makin classics germans were makin shit all they did is put more emphasis an more cylinders in there cars, from straight 4s and 6s to v8s v12s, an v12s r unsporstmenlike , same with BMW, an VWs r shit

  • I hope you realize that your the real rice burner here right? I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that hands down.

  • im the real rice burner , u must be crazy, do u mind explaining that to me jackass

  • I agree, you are a real rice burner and gtepowered is right. not only are you a rice burner, your probably a ricer too. They LOVE talking trash about other foreign cars. You sir, are a tool. Do US ALL A FAVOR and seriously cut your throat open alright? because your dumb as shit and no ones saying anything but you.

  • ima rice burner becuz i talk shit about other foreign cars okay that makes sense huh, im talkin shit about jap cars an a rice burner is a jap car lover , so im contradictin myself shithead, u r a idiot rnt u, i like american cars, domestic for you, becuz imports r gay, now stfu, becuz u r a jackass, an take my word for it im no rice burner

  • no ur not a rice burner, but u are an idiot who knows nothing about cars. I like domestics too, but i have the common sense to realize that Jap cars are lighter with decent power, and german cars focus more on handling and luxery than domestics do. GM is the only domestic company that can compete with Japs and Germans on their level now.

    The Supra is a sequential twin turbo straight 6 with DOHC, not a Single turbo V6 with OHV like the GNX.

  • i kindve no what engines they have dumfuck, jap cars r gay, german cars r now just recently luxury cars, becuz r luxury cars have been downsized since the 80s, imagine if we put another turbo in the GNX, same turbo, as original, thats abour 340 to 360 hp, with 2 less valves itll smoke the shit out of any supra, actually maybe even stock, GNX can do 0 to 60 with its weight in about 5 seconds, an quarter mile in low 13s

  • if u wanna no the truth about German , jap, an American cars u just message me, beuz what i have to say is too long to comment

  • yea dude i hear you

    the thing is i love it when it when i hear people say "my mustang will murder any supra" or any shit like that

    like its not really the car, but its more like what you do to it

    like i can show you a bunch of grand nationals thatll smoke supras and vice versa

  • You are an idiot, learn to spell.

  • one, not every car from japan is a ricer and two, where the fuck did you get your "facts" from about germany? you say all they did was put more emphisis on more cylinders...what the fuck was america doing? putting nothing but v8's in those "classics." germany kept their standards with mostly 4 and 6 cylinder engines while making a better car overall while america was pushin out cheap ass cars

  • This guy's right.

  • the grand national has a v6........dood

  • no they dont have the same type of engine the gn is powered by a 90 degree 12v pushrod V6 while the supra is powered by a 24v DOHC inline 6.

  • a 600hp supra can run 11's no problem.....that's a weak 800 no 2 step having dynojet queen on street tires if that's a "800hp" supra.

    weak sauce, gnx 109 ftw

  • I've seen 1000hp Supra's barely breaking 11's... that's the difference between racing from a roll and from a dig.

  • shit it looks like a tie to me!!!!

  • 800hp supra gtfo lol

  • Search for "SVB Supra" and tell me that's not an 800hp Supra, I seen the fuccin dyno video. The race was shot in the Bay Area (I know the exact exit/freeway), Sac-Raceway is close to the Bay Area and it's the SAME SUPRA in this video. I'm a local, so please don't tell me about the cars from MY AREA when you're not even from Nor-Cal to begin with.

    And please stick to dick riding OTHER PEOPLE'S Grand Nationals and stop commenting on shit you don't know about.

    myspace . com /je408 - fuck wid it.

  • na ur a pro a dick riding, u can have that, im form california too dickhead, ur myspace sucks ass, an ur rappin does too

  • Thanks for doing research on me cause you know I'm right. You took the bait and you LOST. I'm in the business where you're always going to run into haters, what makes u think some muthafucka that's safe at home, dick riding for Buick's is going to stop me? LOL, check yuh girls Myspace bruh.. she prolly got me on her Top 8.

    You know how I know you're a hater? I never talked shit about YOUR beloved GN's yet u still have to say something about me. Shouldn't have taken the bait. Thx for the plays.

  • im no hater, my girl doesnt like latinos, or hispanics or what ever u r, an my girls lives here not in the bay area, an she doesnt have a myspace bitch, so fuck off

  • You LOSE again, I'm not even Mexican. I don't give a fuck what your girl has, it's a figure of speech. And ya, you are a hater.. re-read all the comments you posted.

  • that you know of

  • You might be in the same state, but you're not in my region. The Bay and LA are 2 totally different things and you don't know the people I know because my folks don't dick ride and save videos of cars that they always want winning. And I don't even like Supra's.. oh ya u knew that cause you saw my Myspace page LOL. Step yuh game up.

  • step my game up, wow, obviously i want a gn to win im dont want it to lose do i now, i for sure ur folks ride each other

  • Now you're not making sense you fuckin YouTube Video dick rider. You just dry snitched saying you want a GN to win, end of story. Just like ANY OTHER CAR, there's bound to be another different car that beats it. But dick riders like you don't see that, let me refresh your memory "the times r so bul, the GN is in front of that supra the whole time" AND "r u crazy the gN won, u should fix ur eyes" HAHAHA... come on bruh. The win lights came on on the Supra's side, the GN and TADEH3 loses.

  • did i say theres no car that can beat the GN, did I, an ur right the supra did win my mistake, which i admit, an wtf u mean dry snitched, thats stupid to say

  • the supra ran high 11s the GN ran low 12s therefor supra ran

  • dude look at who crosses the line first and whos time is up first the supra.

  • the times r so bul, the GN is in front of that supra the whole time

  • Are you guys stupid or what? This was a HEADS UP event @ Sac and I'm sure this was a TnT pass.. did you not see the win light on the Supra's side?? Quit being biased on what car you want to win because facts outrule everything you think and say. That's an 800hp Supra btw.

  • lol that car eats supras, thats the 3rd vid icve seen against a supra an the GN\ t type won

  • maybe you should watch this one again the grand national looses

  • r u crazy the gN won, u should fix ur eyes

  • i wish it were so, but i played it over a few times and paused it at the right time. the supra's time was posted first.

  • both these cars are def not the fastest ive seen. for unknown reasons i heard that supra driver lift.

  • supra never lifted

  • no that supra lifts for a millisecond in the end. but it didnt look like he lost traction.

  • It wasn't a lift it was a miss. It smoked when he hit 3rd and it was cutting out after that. It needs some tuning.

  • i guess it could be a misfire.

  • misfired well before he let off i think he peddled it a little

  • That grand national driver isn't very good at driving a grand national, haha

    The torque off the line for a stock GN would make a harder pull than that, that's what they're known for.

  • agreed, didn't seem like he was trying at the start for reasons.. ?

  • yeah neither of those cars are stock

  • Great race. Clash of the best of the 80's vs the 90's here. Like seeing Micheal Jordan and Larry Bird dukin it out. :D

  • like watching danny ainge and John Paxton duke it out....hah

  • hahaha!! MKIV Supras rocks!! not bad for running 11's!

  • wow, the difference in sounds from import and domestic turbo 6's amazing!

  • I believe one is an I-6 and the other is a V. Always, a huge difference in sound. Vs make a cyclic sound as it runs through its firing order, whereas the inline always makes a low-pitch, sort of buzzing sound. Doesn't matter who makes the engine, those traits are common to all makes, turbo or no.