Isaiah 65 verse 1 in the holy bible through this scripture you can't really debate about if Jesus is the son of GOD or if he is the only way to heaven. God can really respond to those who personally ask him today. 100% guarantee you will get an answer from him personally. it says it clearly in scripture. So go ask.
Religions are organizations where ignorant gullible people can support their irrational views, behaviors and wishes by direct approval of others who share their callow fantasy and mental inability.
I love his glee when he says: all your work is still ahead of you.
Is there any difference between having Kim Il-sung as your Eternal President and having a dead Jew who was tortured and killed 2000 years ago as your Eternal King?
@saguhh00 If you really poised that question there really is no hope for you!!! Hell is waiting for your miserable soul. You will be standing next to hitchens screaming for eternity.Difference is you won't have a book on the worst sellers list!!
Hitchens was fucking genius! Everything I've been thinking, he said. Religion is bullshit, it always was. Maybe at its' start it was pure hearted and good, but then it got a taste of political power and that was the end. Bunch of stories people made up as they went along. The idea of god is bullshit. God is just a license for a certain group of people to tell another group of people what to do.
@nuttyzius spectularly stupid! You merely put a general observation into a form of question, pretending to make a point... Hahahahaha you MUST be religious
@milwaukeegregg I'm pretty sure Hitch never claimed he would live forever. So you call cancer God? Never really looked at it that way, So is the flu God too? Dumnass much??
Although he is extremely intellectual I wish I could see him make an argument from a point of view untainted by religion, every single video of him is discussing god from a religious/anti-religious perspective. Thing's like heaven/hell/prayer etc are all holdovers from religion and have little to do with the philosophical concept of god. And I'm not talking of deism which still describes an outdated notion of god.
@Tommyleon225 I respect agnosticism but being an atheist does not mean hate. I agree that I cannot say that I know that God doesn't exist with 100 percent certainty however I acknowledge that the chances of this divine being existing is so infinitesimally low that I can just discard the idea altogether. If that makes me an agnostic than so be it and you should realize this too. Don't live in fear of God just because of a slight chance. It is a major waste of opportunity and life.
@Tommyleon225 when an agnostic is asked "is there a god?" they say "i don't know." what if an agnostic is asked "do you believe in god?" that is a yes or no question. if they don't know that god exists, then they certainly can't believe in god at the moment they are asked the two questions. if you call yourself an agnostic, you are also calling yourself an atheist.
That's not accurate. Agnostics neither believe or disbelieve in God. They don't provide an answer to the "Do you believe in God?" question because belief has nothing to do with agnosticism. Their position is taken from the angle of knowledge.
@101mythbuster The idea Judeo-Christian and the only ones to contain revelation from god is incorrect. The Hindu and Zoroastran religions both have them for starters.
@zerubabel3 where is the evidence for god, heaven & hell? I respect your beliefs but to stand with a valid point you require evidence to back up your claims.
"He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 JOHN 5:12-13
@warriorspikes51 That presupposes the existence of 1 a God; 2 that there are not multiple Gods. In the Old Testament it mentions other Gods, the Hindu religion has many. Superstition.
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
But spiritually you can't be free without God because of sin. Whoever sins is a slave of sin and needs Gods glory to be free of sin... God is love, but the world is wicked.
@zerubabel3 Technically there is no sin. Since even the church says that adam and eve were not real. Since they were not real there was no original sin. Thus no sin. No need for sin. So although personal spirituality is nice for some people to have, it is by no means a reason to believe in god. In all actuality the idea of God makes us all slaves to him and based on what I read in the bible I don't like him very much.
There is sin, because everybody knows the difference between good and evil. God is good and there can be no evil in Him, everything that isn't good, righteous and useful isn't of God, it's of the world or of the devil. That's reality.
@zerubabel3 Actually, you "owned" yourself with the non sense you've been posting here. Noticed all you did was regurgitate religious dogma. Nothing new. Just the same old non sense.
@zerubabel3 You hardly make any sense. When I die, that's it. I'm not taking anything back with me -- mainly because there is nothing for me to go back to. And you face the same fate. When you die, that's also it. The sooner you realize this, the better you'll be able to live your life.
@zerubabel3 No, there isn't. Dead people don't generally come back to life (at least not like it was depicted in the Bible). The mere fact that the Bible claims it to be doesn't make it so. There isn't even any strong evidence that a historical Jesus existed (though I think there might have been a real person or persons the Jesus character was based on).
There is. The shroud of Turin, all the saints, there are people who saw Christ. Faith overpasses human reason and that is why me and you can't get along cuz you are limited.
@zerubabel3 The Shroud of Turin is basically a forgery (and is not even 2,000 years old). Simple research would tell you this. Saints are not evidence of anything; they are merely appointed sainthood by people. If Jesus did exist, then people did see him obviously (but that is no evidence of divinity). There is no contemporary account of Jesus' life. Even Paul's writings (the earliest biblical writings) were not written during Jesus' lifetime. Faith is believe without evidence -- dumb.
@zerubabel3 And when evidence of such soul exist, I sure hope it'll be immortal as well -- assuming being immortal doesn't eventually get boring. Do your research on the things you believe. Find out which things are reasonable and logical to believe in. You'll live a much more rewarding life if your beliefs are based on reality.
@zerubabel3 I didn't say that a rewarding life must come from someone else. The fact that your belief system is based on reality should be rewarding enough. Currently, your belief in a god is a belief system that is not based on reality. Get rid of it.
@zerubabel3 Whatever you think you experienced, you did not experience god. If you truly think you experienced god (and not just imagined it), then you should be able to prove it beyond any doubt. Many people make the same claim, but no one has ever been able to provide concrete evidence of their claim. You are the same.
God is love and love isn't a feeling. Whoever loves knows God. And that's it. There are people who love righteousness, there are people who hate it. Whoever sins is a slave of sin, a slave of the Devil. You have your call man,are you so blind?
@zerubabel3 "God is love" is just part of the dogma you have been raised to believe in. Before you can say god is anything, first prove that god exist (and for that matter, your god version specifically). Then you can start discussing what your god is and isn't. Also, if you read your bible at all, you would know that god is anything but love. The god portrayed in the bible is a monster. Also -- there is no such thing as sin and the devil.
@zerubabel3 So he reveals himself to those that are in predominantly religious countries. He doesn't reveal himself to the highly educated and critical thinkers, though. How odd is that? If your god truly reveals himself in any shape or form, there must be a way to distinguish is it is real or not. For example, I'm guessing you are going to claim god has revealed himself to you. However, I'm also going to guess there is no way for you to prove this to anyone else. We'd have to take your word???
I know your point, you need a miracle or something. There are thousands of testimonies of sick healed by the followers of Jesus. And Jesus Himself did things that no one could do, He did so many miracles that they couldn't fit in all the books ever written. Just do some research.
@zerubabel3 I've done my research. Also, I know I am more knowledgeable in theology than majority of theist. There aren't "thousands of testimonies" like you claim. And the Jesus miracles are pure story telling. Remember, nothing written in the bible was made during the time of Jesus' life. The earliest gospel wasn't even written until some 30-40 years after Jesus' death. I suggest you do some research.
@sKIPper76M If it is not in motion, our point is gained which we proposed to prove, namely, that we must posit something which moves other things without being itself in motion,
@zerubabel3 Classic example of argumentum ad verecundiam. It's silly. The argument is basically the "first mover" argument. That's been debunked. Many times over.
@zerubabel3 Define creation? Read the dictionary. Now, if you are going to say that creation (e.g. start of the universe, etc.) was made possible by a creator (e.g. a god, particularly your version of god), then you again have another claim and need to provide evidence to support that claim. Point of living? Maybe there is none. Or maybe everyone has to find their own purpose in life. Or whatever. This question has nothing to do with the existence of your sky god.
@zerubabel3 Ever heard of the crusades? Summary: "My god is better than your god". So many wars have been fought over god. I don't think there has been a war fought over non-belief of anything.
@zerubabel3 Yeah. Name calling and the god argument is really helping your case here. What are you doing on this comment thread anyway? If you don't like the video, just watch something else. Go ride with the pope in his bullet-proof car or something. That'll explain faith in god to you.
@zerubabel3 there is nothing that can convince me other wise that this stipulation that you have presented is nothing more than an opinion not a fact. I wouldn't put it past my country but at the same time I'd sooner believe that it was because of pearl harbor rather than some big science experiment. I thought it could have been a decision on the part of the military but no those evil bastard scientist had been planning that all along! Screw the history channel I'll sit around and listen to you.
@zerubabel3 Sin is a cop-out to avoid responsibility. You can assign something as "sin", and therefore nobody should do it, regardless of why or how they do it. I will never tolerate somebody assigning anything as "sin".
@zerubabel3 You cannot demonstrate that productively, therefore everything you exclaim to be true is instantly invalid. Stop it, with your insipid, archaic beliefs.
@josan2964 If you for example killed someone. how would you feel? And what the f*uck do you mean by productively? Where did you hear that? What kind of knowledge is that? Foolishness
@zerubabel3 no ones buying that shit anymore, just the weak minded and brainwashed so fuck you and fuck your make believe god. Your a weakling who has giving up yourself because your afraid it could be true, if he does exist you ain't fooling him.
@M9dhatterII And in HIROSHIMA 8 blocks from the bomb hit 8 German Jesuit missionaries survived without any damages, because they were praying the rosary. That is a miracle and prove.
@zerubabel3 not everyone died in the bombing some were just in the right places at the right time for that to count as a miracle EVERYONE else must have died. Look up other Hiroshima survivors and find out if they were busy praying.
@zerubabel3 I think it had more to do with the fact that the building was already fortified against incendiary bombs that the allies had been dropping.
@zerubabel3 Yeah... and the people that survived the blast zone that didn't pray were just lucky? Or would you call that coincidence? I guess if you prayed, it was a miracle, it you didn't that would just be a coincidence. That you can think at all is a miracle.@zerubabel13 is a troll.
@josan2964 Gamma radiation cannot be blocked, only attenuated, the attenuation is an inverse squared relationship, but from my own experience working with Geiger counters and gamma ray emitters a lead sheet 10 cm thick still allows enough radiation through to register noticeably above the background reading. An emitter that emits gamma rays is very weak compared to the high energies of a neucler blast so i would submit that you need allot more than 5 feet of concrete to be safe.
@josan2964 Also there is no such thing as "max" as there is no upper bound to gamma ray frequency and therefore no limit to the theoretical energies achievable by each photon. The scale of EM radiation just continues on. So if 5 ft of cement protects you from a certain source of Gamma photons then it is only required that more energy be input into those photons to break your shielding. And as i have already said, you can only attenuate, not block gamma rays.
@SadeofDarkness No, with regards to not being able to stop gamma radiation, you must be thinking of neutrinos. Those cannot be stopped. Gamma radiation can be stopped, because it loses more and more energy as it passes through material, and slows down to a point where, when it re-enters the atmosphere, it cannot harm you.
@josan2964 That sin (for ex. killing someone) would take a big part of you, if you wanted or not because sin is stronger than man. You would feel bad, do it again... That is with every sin.
@zerubabel3 God created everything, therefore God created sin, therefore God already knew I was going to sin. See? Your logic fails on a miserable level.
He knew that you were going to sin, you got that right, and me too, and everybody so everybody needs the glory of God. In Him there can be no sin, sin is of the Devil.
@sKIPper76M Mr. Carlin said that the point of living was plastic. God couldn't quite figure out how to make one and now that we have, we are all going away soon. :D
@sKIPper76M But if the mover is itself in motion, then it is moved by some other mover. Either then we have to go on to infinity, or we must come to some mover which is motionless;
@sKIPper76M It is impossible for things contrary and discordant to fall into one harmonious order always or for the most part, except under some one guidance,
@sKIPper76M not rarely and fortuitously, but always or for the most part. Therefore there must be some Power by whose providence the world is governed; and that we call God.
@zerubabel3 That doesn't explain my question, you've just asserted the existance of forces with no proof they exist.
I was asking how an immortal god can sacrifice his life and not actually die, to satisfy this rule he made about 'Sin' because he needs a blood sacrifice to forgive people.
But instead of someone satisfying this sacrifice allowing him to forgive everyone for sins they have yet to commit, he does it himself.
Its nonsensical bullshit, even in philosophical terms.
God made people. But the first sin broke down the perfect relationship between humans and God because sin isn't of God. That's why Jesus (GOD) died voluntarily for us so everyone who wants to take part in eternal life can come to him and be free of sin, and glorify God. Jesus is alive and well He's the same as He ever was. He is the creator of man, of the universe and master of everything, you like it or not. It hurts God so much when people go to Hell.
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Isaiah 65 verse 1 in the holy bible through this scripture you can't really debate about if Jesus is the son of GOD or if he is the only way to heaven. God can really respond to those who personally ask him today. 100% guarantee you will get an answer from him personally. it says it clearly in scripture. So go ask.
udoherkommer 7 hours ago
he kinda sound like professor snape =O
chillbabe104 11 hours ago
i wish i could express my opinion as clear as that
the best thing is that Hitchens will bring people to reason and logic even after he's dead, but apparently still alive
mHalfLife 13 hours ago
@mHalfLife Interesting you say that, as I didnt know who Hitchens was until after he died. Now, the man fascinates me.
rad4life1 4 hours ago
I miss Hitch.
chpcolby 17 hours ago
i've spent nearly all day on Christian pop videos.... by both the stander it chooses to jugged it's crap....
Sboy200 18 hours ago
"God is dead" - said Hitchens
"Hitchens is dead" - says God
miguelmirana 18 hours ago
@miguelmirana God doesn't exist.
josan2964 9 hours ago
Hitchens' death is a great loss for the intellectual community. He was truly brilliant
natmil1 19 hours ago
Beautiful, eloquent, and as always full of intellect and rationality. Bravo!
gbuffon01 1 day ago
god had to get rid of hitchens because he made god look super dumb. rip man
carniboy18 1 day ago
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Religions are organizations where ignorant gullible people can support their irrational views, behaviors and wishes by direct approval of others who share their callow fantasy and mental inability.
scotttebben 1 day ago
I love his glee when he says: all your work is still ahead of you.
Is there any difference between having Kim Il-sung as your Eternal President and having a dead Jew who was tortured and killed 2000 years ago as your Eternal King?
No.
saguhh00 1 day ago
@saguhh00 If you really poised that question there really is no hope for you!!! Hell is waiting for your miserable soul. You will be standing next to hitchens screaming for eternity.Difference is you won't have a book on the worst sellers list!!
milwaukeegregg 22 hours ago
I love this guy ... respect.
abetterplayer 1 day ago
Hitchens was fucking genius! Everything I've been thinking, he said. Religion is bullshit, it always was. Maybe at its' start it was pure hearted and good, but then it got a taste of political power and that was the end. Bunch of stories people made up as they went along. The idea of god is bullshit. God is just a license for a certain group of people to tell another group of people what to do.
donzaloog1400 1 day ago 12
@nuttyzius spectularly stupid! You merely put a general observation into a form of question, pretending to make a point... Hahahahaha you MUST be religious
IIIrandomIII 1 day ago
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What is it with him and N.Korea?
nuttyzius 2 days ago
God just got hitch slapped!!!!!
mcdonaldization 2 days ago 29
GOD lost all right!!!!! That's why hitchy is pushing up weeds in his 2'x6' condo!!!!lololol
milwaukeegregg 2 days ago
@milwaukeegregg I'm pretty sure Hitch never claimed he would live forever. So you call cancer God? Never really looked at it that way, So is the flu God too? Dumnass much??
orion1two 2 days ago
@orion1two Plenty of room for you right next to hitchy,lol
milwaukeegregg 1 day ago
@milwaukeegregg You make no since.
orion1two 1 day ago
2:27 Peter Hitchens looks like such a little bitch sitting on the stairs. That is their whole childhood in a nutshell.
QuasiGood 2 days ago
Cro-magnon is modern human. He must mean something like homo habilus.
webbess1 2 days ago
@webbess1
Yeah man I know, I'm from Croatia :D
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@webbess1 hahaha, nope. We're homo sapiens sapiens, cro-magnon are our ancestors, as the homo habilus, erectus etc.
machetero1 7 hours ago
Although he is extremely intellectual I wish I could see him make an argument from a point of view untainted by religion, every single video of him is discussing god from a religious/anti-religious perspective. Thing's like heaven/hell/prayer etc are all holdovers from religion and have little to do with the philosophical concept of god. And I'm not talking of deism which still describes an outdated notion of god.
cartasiac 2 days ago
If only hitchens lived a few more days :p.
Goron1988 2 days ago
Hitchens > God
ItsOneInAMillion 3 days ago
So much hate. Agnosticism is the only way forward.
Tommyleon225 3 days ago
@Tommyleon225 I respect agnosticism but being an atheist does not mean hate. I agree that I cannot say that I know that God doesn't exist with 100 percent certainty however I acknowledge that the chances of this divine being existing is so infinitesimally low that I can just discard the idea altogether. If that makes me an agnostic than so be it and you should realize this too. Don't live in fear of God just because of a slight chance. It is a major waste of opportunity and life.
AnimeAdept 3 days ago
@Tommyleon225 when an agnostic is asked "is there a god?" they say "i don't know." what if an agnostic is asked "do you believe in god?" that is a yes or no question. if they don't know that god exists, then they certainly can't believe in god at the moment they are asked the two questions. if you call yourself an agnostic, you are also calling yourself an atheist.
theblackmonkey1700 3 days ago
@theblackmonkey1700
That's not accurate. Agnostics neither believe or disbelieve in God. They don't provide an answer to the "Do you believe in God?" question because belief has nothing to do with agnosticism. Their position is taken from the angle of knowledge.
bordertown 3 days ago
@101mythbuster The idea Judeo-Christian and the only ones to contain revelation from god is incorrect. The Hindu and Zoroastran religions both have them for starters.
Nyctasia 3 days ago
And this title pisses me off, Hitchens couldn't beat me in a debate.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 where is the evidence for god, heaven & hell? I respect your beliefs but to stand with a valid point you require evidence to back up your claims.
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zerubabel3 3 days ago
"He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 JOHN 5:12-13
warriorspikes51 3 days ago
@warriorspikes51 Jesus is a cunt.
drplbiftin 3 days ago 2
@drplbiftin
Cowards aren't allowed in Heaven
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 Thats true - Heaveb is reserved for priests who arse fuck and rape children.How silly to think it God would allow cowards in.
dilwich123 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 heaven doesn't exist
drplbiftin 3 days ago
@drplbiftin
Of course it exists. And there is also Hell.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 prove it
TheZombiesaint 3 days ago
@drplbiftin Short argument but the evidence points to you being correct.
dilwich123 3 days ago
@Nyctasia no one's belief determines reality. God is God because he is regardless of my belief or yours.
warriorspikes51 3 days ago
@warriorspikes51 That presupposes the existence of 1 a God; 2 that there are not multiple Gods. In the Old Testament it mentions other Gods, the Hindu religion has many. Superstition.
Nyctasia 3 days ago
You could insert any name for "God" in the title, and the title would still be valid.
Losing was never an option for Hitchens!
toffen7 4 days ago
<3 this man.
IntronDepot1 4 days ago
Take this personal you atheist fools:
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
zerubabel3 4 days ago
@zerubabel3 are you mentally challenged or something?
xMiona 4 days ago
@xMiona
That's the right question.
zerubabel3 4 days ago
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zerubabel3 4 days ago
@zerubabel3 I'm free, and I always will be. I will never ask for more.
xMiona 4 days ago
@xMiona
But spiritually you can't be free without God because of sin. Whoever sins is a slave of sin and needs Gods glory to be free of sin... God is love, but the world is wicked.
zerubabel3 4 days ago
@zerubabel3 Well since there is no god you're lying.
xMiona 4 days ago 2
@xMiona
There is God, He isn't far from anyone, just do exactly the opposite of your thoughts because you're in a trap that is called reverse psychology.
zerubabel3 4 days ago
@zerubabel3 Prove it or consider yourself a liar
xMiona 4 days ago
@xMiona
enter Howard Storm in your searchbox. He's a former Atheist.
zerubabel3 4 days ago
@zerubabel3 No I will not, prove it yourself
xMiona 4 days ago
@xMiona
You did ;)
zerubabel3 4 days ago
@zerubabel3 up yours, tossrag
drplbiftin 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 Technically there is no sin. Since even the church says that adam and eve were not real. Since they were not real there was no original sin. Thus no sin. No need for sin. So although personal spirituality is nice for some people to have, it is by no means a reason to believe in god. In all actuality the idea of God makes us all slaves to him and based on what I read in the bible I don't like him very much.
whitefire1997 4 days ago
@whitefire1997
There is sin, because everybody knows the difference between good and evil. God is good and there can be no evil in Him, everything that isn't good, righteous and useful isn't of God, it's of the world or of the devil. That's reality.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 Do you believe in fairies, too?
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
You think I'm owned right now, don't you? Well that is what I call human weakness.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 Actually, you "owned" yourself with the non sense you've been posting here. Noticed all you did was regurgitate religious dogma. Nothing new. Just the same old non sense.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
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zerubabel3 3 days ago
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@sKIPper76M
How come that you know that not believing in Jesus is a sin?
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 fuck off cunt
drplbiftin 3 days ago
@drplbiftin Is that from Leviticus?
dilwich123 3 days ago
@xMiona No, he's just brain washed. Typical theist.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
Did you bring something on this earth and can you take something with you at your very end?
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 You hardly make any sense. When I die, that's it. I'm not taking anything back with me -- mainly because there is nothing for me to go back to. And you face the same fate. When you die, that's also it. The sooner you realize this, the better you'll be able to live your life.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
That's the core of your problem. There is evidence that Jesus rose from the dead.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 No, there isn't. Dead people don't generally come back to life (at least not like it was depicted in the Bible). The mere fact that the Bible claims it to be doesn't make it so. There isn't even any strong evidence that a historical Jesus existed (though I think there might have been a real person or persons the Jesus character was based on).
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
There is. The shroud of Turin, all the saints, there are people who saw Christ. Faith overpasses human reason and that is why me and you can't get along cuz you are limited.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 The Shroud of Turin is basically a forgery (and is not even 2,000 years old). Simple research would tell you this. Saints are not evidence of anything; they are merely appointed sainthood by people. If Jesus did exist, then people did see him obviously (but that is no evidence of divinity). There is no contemporary account of Jesus' life. Even Paul's writings (the earliest biblical writings) were not written during Jesus' lifetime. Faith is believe without evidence -- dumb.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
I see that you are reasonable.
I hope that one day you'll get it that your soul is immortal.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 And when evidence of such soul exist, I sure hope it'll be immortal as well -- assuming being immortal doesn't eventually get boring. Do your research on the things you believe. Find out which things are reasonable and logical to believe in. You'll live a much more rewarding life if your beliefs are based on reality.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
Get reward from who? From people? Who is brainwashed?
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 I didn't say that a rewarding life must come from someone else. The fact that your belief system is based on reality should be rewarding enough. Currently, your belief in a god is a belief system that is not based on reality. Get rid of it.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
Yes, but how can I shut up over things I know and I've experienced.
I didn't made this up, it's not my theory and because of that I'm speaking the truth.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 Whatever you think you experienced, you did not experience god. If you truly think you experienced god (and not just imagined it), then you should be able to prove it beyond any doubt. Many people make the same claim, but no one has ever been able to provide concrete evidence of their claim. You are the same.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
God is love and love isn't a feeling. Whoever loves knows God. And that's it. There are people who love righteousness, there are people who hate it. Whoever sins is a slave of sin, a slave of the Devil. You have your call man,are you so blind?
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 "God is love" is just part of the dogma you have been raised to believe in. Before you can say god is anything, first prove that god exist (and for that matter, your god version specifically). Then you can start discussing what your god is and isn't. Also, if you read your bible at all, you would know that god is anything but love. The god portrayed in the bible is a monster. Also -- there is no such thing as sin and the devil.
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
I'm sorry, I am not God. He reveals to whom He wants.
God bless you.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 So he reveals himself to those that are in predominantly religious countries. He doesn't reveal himself to the highly educated and critical thinkers, though. How odd is that? If your god truly reveals himself in any shape or form, there must be a way to distinguish is it is real or not. For example, I'm guessing you are going to claim god has revealed himself to you. However, I'm also going to guess there is no way for you to prove this to anyone else. We'd have to take your word???
sKIPper76M 3 days ago
@sKIPper76M
God has revealed Himself, Jesus Christ is God.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 OK, so you now have a claim. Prove it.
sKIPper76M 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M
I know your point, you need a miracle or something. There are thousands of testimonies of sick healed by the followers of Jesus. And Jesus Himself did things that no one could do, He did so many miracles that they couldn't fit in all the books ever written. Just do some research.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 I've done my research. Also, I know I am more knowledgeable in theology than majority of theist. There aren't "thousands of testimonies" like you claim. And the Jesus miracles are pure story telling. Remember, nothing written in the bible was made during the time of Jesus' life. The earliest gospel wasn't even written until some 30-40 years after Jesus' death. I suggest you do some research.
sKIPper76M 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M
Like I said I'm a believer and I have nothing in common with you, except that my God died for you.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 What we both have in common is that there is no god for either one of us.
sKIPper76M 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M Everything that is in motion is put and kept in motion by some other thing. It is evident to sense that there are beings in motion.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M A thing is in motion because something else puts and keeps it in motion. That mover therefore either is itself in motion or not.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M If it is not in motion, our point is gained which we proposed to prove, namely, that we must posit something which moves other things without being itself in motion,
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 You are plagiarizing from ccel.org. You don't even fully understand how silly that statement is.
sKIPper76M 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M It isn't silly, that is philosophy by Saint Thomas Aquinas.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 Classic example of argumentum ad verecundiam. It's silly. The argument is basically the "first mover" argument. That's been debunked. Many times over.
sKIPper76M 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M You're being unreasonable now. Then define Creation, and what's the point of living?
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 Define creation? Read the dictionary. Now, if you are going to say that creation (e.g. start of the universe, etc.) was made possible by a creator (e.g. a god, particularly your version of god), then you again have another claim and need to provide evidence to support that claim. Point of living? Maybe there is none. Or maybe everyone has to find their own purpose in life. Or whatever. This question has nothing to do with the existence of your sky god.
sKIPper76M 2 days ago
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zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 This made me laugh
Kralle85 2 days ago
@Kralle85
I know. Look we could do this for the next 3 weeks, how about peace? I have know intentions to influence atheist lives.
Whoever wants to serve God will know if this teaching is of God or of men. Whoever wants to serve Jesus will get a reward from God.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 Ever heard of the crusades? Summary: "My god is better than your god". So many wars have been fought over god. I don't think there has been a war fought over non-belief of anything.
M9dhatterII 2 days ago
@M9dhatterII
It's year 2012. dummy. Human mistakes happen. What about nuclear bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I think that was the biggest mistake.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 Yeah. Name calling and the god argument is really helping your case here. What are you doing on this comment thread anyway? If you don't like the video, just watch something else. Go ride with the pope in his bullet-proof car or something. That'll explain faith in god to you.
M9dhatterII 21 hours ago
@M9dhatterII
it's the way you reading it
zerubabel3 21 hours ago
@M9dhatterII And that was in name of science.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 there is nothing that can convince me other wise that this stipulation that you have presented is nothing more than an opinion not a fact. I wouldn't put it past my country but at the same time I'd sooner believe that it was because of pearl harbor rather than some big science experiment. I thought it could have been a decision on the part of the military but no those evil bastard scientist had been planning that all along! Screw the history channel I'll sit around and listen to you.
warangel87 1 day ago
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zerubabel3 1 day ago
@warangel87
Yes, I am talking all along in a spiritual way, not in a worldly. This is nothing against the US, but it was a great sin to drop that bombs.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 Sin is a cop-out to avoid responsibility. You can assign something as "sin", and therefore nobody should do it, regardless of why or how they do it. I will never tolerate somebody assigning anything as "sin".
josan2964 1 day ago
@josan2964
Sin is a killer of soul and mind.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 You cannot demonstrate that productively, therefore everything you exclaim to be true is instantly invalid. Stop it, with your insipid, archaic beliefs.
josan2964 23 hours ago
@josan2964 If you for example killed someone. how would you feel? And what the f*uck do you mean by productively? Where did you hear that? What kind of knowledge is that? Foolishness
zerubabel3 22 hours ago
@zerubabel3 It's foolish to think an imaginary judge protects you. Fucking idiot.
josan2964 20 hours ago
@josan2964
It is foolish not to believe in God, because He exists.
zerubabel3 20 hours ago
@zerubabel3 Can you please provide the evidence of your god's existence?
uglyandbad 19 hours ago
@uglyandbad
Ah get the out of here..... :D
zerubabel3 18 hours ago
@zerubabel3 no ones buying that shit anymore, just the weak minded and brainwashed so fuck you and fuck your make believe god. Your a weakling who has giving up yourself because your afraid it could be true, if he does exist you ain't fooling him.
TehFoo1 19 hours ago
@TehFoo1
You calling me weak minded and brainwashed, who's the one who hates? Me or you? Your god is Hitchens...... :D SUCKER
zerubabel3 18 hours ago
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@zerubabel3 "You calling me weak minded and brainwashed, who's the one who hates? Me or you? Your god is Hitchens...... :D SUCKER"
Yes, well at least Hitchens existed. Yours never did.
steviej321 4 hours ago
@M9dhatterII And in HIROSHIMA 8 blocks from the bomb hit 8 German Jesuit missionaries survived without any damages, because they were praying the rosary. That is a miracle and prove.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 not everyone died in the bombing some were just in the right places at the right time for that to count as a miracle EVERYONE else must have died. Look up other Hiroshima survivors and find out if they were busy praying.
warangel87 1 day ago
@warangel87
they all lived well past that awful day with no radiation sickness, no loss of hearing, or any other visible long term defects or maladies.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
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zerubabel3 1 day ago
@warangel87 a Franciscan Friary was also unharmed in Nagasaki after the atomic blast.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 I think it had more to do with the fact that the building was already fortified against incendiary bombs that the allies had been dropping.
DeAztec62 1 day ago
Type Hiroshima miracle in google searchbox.
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 i did that's how i got that explaination
DeAztec62 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 didn't you watch this video?
abetterplayer 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 Yeah... and the people that survived the blast zone that didn't pray were just lucky? Or would you call that coincidence? I guess if you prayed, it was a miracle, it you didn't that would just be a coincidence. That you can think at all is a miracle.@zerubabel13 is a troll.
M9dhatterII 1 day ago
@M9dhatterII
Other people were messed up by radiation; how can you survive a 15 kiloton nuclear explode 1 mile away from the bomb hit without any damage?
zerubabel3 1 day ago
@zerubabel3 By burrowing deep underground. It doesn't matter how close to the crater you were, if you're 10-20 feet under.
josan2964 22 hours ago
@josan2964
BS, Gamma radiation will still penetrate that distance and still mess up your body.
SadeofDarkness 22 hours ago
@SadeofDarkness Gamma radiation passes through 5 feet of cement at max, and 4 cm of lead at max. It will not touch you.
josan2964 20 hours ago
@josan2964 Gamma radiation cannot be blocked, only attenuated, the attenuation is an inverse squared relationship, but from my own experience working with Geiger counters and gamma ray emitters a lead sheet 10 cm thick still allows enough radiation through to register noticeably above the background reading. An emitter that emits gamma rays is very weak compared to the high energies of a neucler blast so i would submit that you need allot more than 5 feet of concrete to be safe.
SadeofDarkness 18 hours ago
@josan2964 Also there is no such thing as "max" as there is no upper bound to gamma ray frequency and therefore no limit to the theoretical energies achievable by each photon. The scale of EM radiation just continues on. So if 5 ft of cement protects you from a certain source of Gamma photons then it is only required that more energy be input into those photons to break your shielding. And as i have already said, you can only attenuate, not block gamma rays.
SadeofDarkness 18 hours ago
@SadeofDarkness No, with regards to not being able to stop gamma radiation, you must be thinking of neutrinos. Those cannot be stopped. Gamma radiation can be stopped, because it loses more and more energy as it passes through material, and slows down to a point where, when it re-enters the atmosphere, it cannot harm you.
josan2964 9 hours ago
@josan2964 Nonsense.
zerubabel3 22 hours ago
@josan2964 That sin (for ex. killing someone) would take a big part of you, if you wanted or not because sin is stronger than man. You would feel bad, do it again... That is with every sin.
zerubabel3 21 hours ago
@zerubabel3 God created everything, therefore God created sin, therefore God already knew I was going to sin. See? Your logic fails on a miserable level.
josan2964 20 hours ago
@josan2964
He knew that you were going to sin, you got that right, and me too, and everybody so everybody needs the glory of God. In Him there can be no sin, sin is of the Devil.
zerubabel3 20 hours ago
@Kralle85 *no intentions
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M
I repeat, how come that you know that not believing in Jesus is a sin?
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M Mr. Carlin said that the point of living was plastic. God couldn't quite figure out how to make one and now that we have, we are all going away soon. :D
M9dhatterII 19 hours ago
@sKIPper76M you can't, because it is impossible without God. Chess_MATE
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M and this we call God.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M But if the mover is itself in motion, then it is moved by some other mover. Either then we have to go on to infinity, or we must come to some mover which is motionless;
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M but it is impossible to go on to infinity, therefore we must posit some motionless prime mover.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M In this argument there are two propositions to be proved: that everything which is in motion is put and kept in motion by something else;
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M and that in the series of movers and things moved it is impossible to go on to infinity.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M It is impossible for things contrary and discordant to fall into one harmonious order always or for the most part, except under some one guidance,
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M assigning to each and all a tendency to a fixed end. But in the world we see things of different natures falling into harmonious order,
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M not rarely and fortuitously, but always or for the most part. Therefore there must be some Power by whose providence the world is governed; and that we call God.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@sKIPper76M Read it from down to up. You can't mess with Christians.
zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 How can an immortal being die? That in itself is a fallacy.
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zerubabel3 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 That doesn't explain my question, you've just asserted the existance of forces with no proof they exist.
I was asking how an immortal god can sacrifice his life and not actually die, to satisfy this rule he made about 'Sin' because he needs a blood sacrifice to forgive people.
But instead of someone satisfying this sacrifice allowing him to forgive everyone for sins they have yet to commit, he does it himself.
Its nonsensical bullshit, even in philosophical terms.
gotsda 2 days ago
@zerubabel3 you idiot, the shroud of turin was proven to be false, it doesnt even date back to christ, idiot
shadowkrypton 3 days ago
@shadowkrypton
I know Jesus that is for you unbelievers
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@shadowkrypton
Watch the latest videos on youtube.
zerubabel3 3 days ago
@zerubabel3 and people have been crazy since the evolution of people.
whitefire1997 4 days ago
@whitefire1997
God made people. But the first sin broke down the perfect relationship between humans and God because sin isn't of God. That's why Jesus (GOD) died voluntarily for us so everyone who wants to take part in eternal life can come to him and be free of sin, and glorify God. Jesus is alive and well He's the same as He ever was. He is the creator of man, of the universe and master of everything, you like it or not. It hurts God so much when people go to Hell.
zerubabel3 3 days ago