Theres so much wrong with this video, 1.) Dont store your makeup in a bathroom, the steam from the shower can mess up your makeup. Try getting a vanity and drawers. 2.) Theres no makeup here to organize 3.) Your heat styling tools should not be thrown out just because you get a new one? Maybe it sucks but seriously? 4.) Same with the brushes, unless they are falling apart.
@KatrinaMess , girl I totally know how you feel. Look up "makeupbytiffanyd organization" seriously the best organization ever, she has like over 10,000 dollars worth of makeup/cosmetics easy.
hahahaha "this is a beautiful full draw full of make up" if you think that's full you should see my make up storage and serious everyone knows you don't store make up in the bathroom...
umm i have more make-up than that and im 13!! and im not aloud to have much makeup but its still waaaaaay more than that. i totally agree with @KatrinaMess
You really shouldn't keep your make-up in the bathroom. The steam from the showers allows bacteria and things of that nature develop faster because of the change of temperature.
omg thats no organization!!! 1 you dont keep makeup in your bathroom it causes bacteria and ruins your makeup 2 you dont wind the cords up on hair dryers and stuff 3 i dint own alot of makeup but i have 5x more than that and i need space for it and 4 WTF?!
this isn't a very good video i have more makeup than this and i'm 12 and who gets rid of old hair stylers if you get a new one this vid is just for show it sucks
if you keep your makeup in your bedroom rather than in the bathroom the makeup wont expire as quickly and it will also keep the same good consistency and quality as when you first bought it .
Yeah, they say that about not wrapping the cord, but I've NEVER seen one get damaged from wrapping it up, nor do I know of anyone who has. The motors on blow dryers burn out in a year or two, way too soon for any damage from a cord to be a problem.
Yeah, "they" say that about not wrapping the cord, but I've NEVER seen one get damaged from wrapping it up, nor do I know of anyone who has. The motors on blow dryers burn out in a year or two, way too soon for any damage from a cord to be a problem.
I store my makeup outside of the bathroom I have a vanity and dresser with ample space to store my collections and loot the bathroom seems like not a good place for make up just like you would not store your toothbrush next to the toliet
sensational looking techniques, thank you, has anybody sampled Rimmels latest range of products? it's not easy to get quality makeup in Oakbrook but you can get some magnificent samples by using "Gratis-Makeup-Samples"! there handy!
You actually happen to be notably gorgeous, thanks for your video. it is unfortunate im living within Kingsland simply because i can not find very good cosmetics, however i receive cost-free trials through "Gratis Makeup Samples". i love Max factor cosmetics!
wow i barely have anymakeup at all and it takes up 3 drawer set things and i didnt know i would need 3 i thought i only need 1 but i was wrong ...... wow...
A new ASOTV product just launched called StackMates, the StackMates Storage System...you can search the word 'StackMates' in youtube search box, will really help for kitchen organizing!
If you don't have drawers you can get stacking organizers and put those in a cabinet or small stacking shelves and then put the bags on those. Stacking bins hold hair supplies, including blow dryers & such. You can also add hooks on the inside of your cabinet doors and hang curling irons and blow dryers by those. There is always a solution.
Hi! I wish I had drawers in my bathroom, but I don't think I would put my make up there b/c I take pretty warm showers and it could melt my lipsticks, and get moisture into my make up. Thanks for the video though:)
Some of us don't have drawers in our bathroom, and winding up cords, as I have just read in a previous comment, does indeed damage it. This is not a very good how to.
This isn't make up organization.... It's only maybe 25 things! Give me a woman with half a MAC store and some Givenchy/ Nars on top and lets do some real organizing. It doesn't need work until it's crowding you out of your living space. Even my friends who don't wear make up have more than that. Besides, keeping make up in the bathroom is begging for problems. That's why you have a dressing table and it's in the nice dry bedroom.
@KatrinaMess yes k , she went wrong on storing it in the bathrroom but i highly doubt you own half a mac store hunny and if you do , its your own bloody fault for buying everything. you cannot ue every ingle product every day so start by laying it all out on your bed and picking out things you ue alot. i can garuntee you will onli end up with 20-25 things. so in future , keep rude opinions to yourself and quit wasting your money on makeup and start giving some to charity.
@SmileySasky she didnt say she has half a mac store she said to have some with half a mac store and then do an organization video. Many women have a lot more makeup than the video. lots of people like to have variety. I only put makeup on about once a week and i have twice that. With that you said she needs to keep rude opinions to herself, well so do you
@SmileySasky and i quote "Give me a woman with half a MAC store and some Givenchy/ Nars on top and lets do some real organizing." Tell me where she said that she had half a mac store, and your comment to alexandraaaz3 about acting more mature. YOU are the only one not being mature. So next time you want to try calling someone out make sure you actually read there comment. HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
@johnston1228 first , you do not think outside the box on account you do not consider other things. second , she was making a statement that she owned quite a lot of makeup , hunn. and also you think you are so much better then me darling but actualy , i have an A+ in HONOURS english so you can't talk. ( no if you continue to be difficult , i shall block you and also , i am not the only one speaking my mind about this video. there are plenty of other people foryou to fight with)
@johnston1228 omfg would you ever just GIVE OVER! your english is crap too , its responded not "reasponded". i simply made a typo. that doesnt affect m grammar dumb ass. you spelled a WORD completly wrong. ive been on your page . all you seem to do is post mean RUDE comments on loads of videos. you are a rude mean judgemental person. get a fkin life and move on CHILD ..
@johnston1228 Hah the only reason i went on your page was to see who you were and why you were posting rude comments. and i will answer your question : she was making the statement by saying " gimme a woman with half a mac store ! " as in she was aiming that she wanted a video with more makeup because she had lots herself. why would she say this if she didnt have a lot of make up ? HAPPY NOW??and i couldnt care less what you are. your comments mean nothing to me and i have a great life :)
@KatrinaMess If you have half a store of make up and its crowding you out of living space, you have a problem that can't be solved only with organization. Its not the standard for most people and for the make up addicts there are tons of gurus who show you how to organize this much make up.
hmm...clinique powder, or maybe its blush, mac lipsticks, with one from their moonbathe collection i believe...as well as a few eyeshadows from moonbathe...and bobby brown lip compact. the other brands...i dont know
What does seeing the brand name have to do with knowing what color the lipstick is? God knows I have a few different shades by the same company in the same style container.
oh really...? fuck why didnt someone tell me before hand? but if you cant wind the cords up, how will i store it? i have a teeny tiny room and i always wrap the cords around. how will i store it?
@novideosforme123 lot of hair dryers/straighteners/curlers now have little rubber loops on the ends, you can use this to hang them on little hooks (I like to use those 3M temporary adhesive ones, so that i'm not making holes) inside of a cupboard or closet, if you have the space, and then either let the cord hang free or gently fold the cord in big loops and secure it with a loose hair elastic
@novideosforme123 Well.. you know how you first got the heat tool? How the cord was bunched together in like a back and forth motion? Do that lol (did that make sense?) When ur finish wrap a hairtie, ribbon or rubberband around it to keep the cords together THEN store them =) You can store them in a drawer or even in a cute little basket =) Sorry it took 10 months to reply! I never saw this lol
have to say this is too time consuming for me. I want my supplies HANDY. I don't wrap the cord up around my hair dryer and put it away. It's on a shelf, ready for me to grab. I only use 3 make-up items and they are in a decorative jar on the sink, along with my hair brush. I'm 59...less is more efficient for me.
You should not keep your make up in your bathroom!!!!!!
ninakf 4 months ago 4
howcast its way better
xxmakeuploverxxisa 4 months ago
Theres so much wrong with this video, 1.) Dont store your makeup in a bathroom, the steam from the shower can mess up your makeup. Try getting a vanity and drawers. 2.) Theres no makeup here to organize 3.) Your heat styling tools should not be thrown out just because you get a new one? Maybe it sucks but seriously? 4.) Same with the brushes, unless they are falling apart.
RestOnMyLaurel 6 months ago 3
your not suppose to keep make up in a bathroom
HajeetK17 6 months ago
@KatrinaMess , girl I totally know how you feel. Look up "makeupbytiffanyd organization" seriously the best organization ever, she has like over 10,000 dollars worth of makeup/cosmetics easy.
korinaerin 7 months ago
i dont think this kind of set up will work if youre sharing your bathroom with your husband.
lanigraceburns 7 months ago
where did u get the organizer box thing 4 ur makeup?
Awesome200126 7 months ago
it's expertvillage... what did you expected? ._.
victoriabp 7 months ago
your really not supposed to keep your make up in the bathroom...it damages it fast...
alliebee2000 7 months ago
hahahaha "this is a beautiful full draw full of make up" if you think that's full you should see my make up storage and serious everyone knows you don't store make up in the bathroom...
EdennTaylorrBabyy 7 months ago
there's not even a single eyeshadow palette in there... FAKE :P Where did she hide the rest of her makeup??
sabrinav 7 months ago
umm i have more make-up than that and im 13!! and im not aloud to have much makeup but its still waaaaaay more than that. i totally agree with @KatrinaMess
ellaluvjustinbieber 9 months ago 2
It would be nice if you told us where you got those clear organizing thingys :P
KittyGoKrazy 9 months ago 3
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You get a new brush - u get rid of the old one....
....You give birth to a new child - u get rid of the 1st one !...XD
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TummyRubClub 10 months ago 11
@TummyRubClub LOL!!! omg i'm laughing so hard now lol
HelloKittyBow27 9 months ago
@HelloKittyBow27 hey - no need to be sarcastic!....;P
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trueU16 10 months ago
You really shouldn't keep your make-up in the bathroom. The steam from the showers allows bacteria and things of that nature develop faster because of the change of temperature.
kayladottcom 11 months ago
Yeah.... I don't store makeup in the bathroom. Too much humidity. (Bad for lipsticks and eyeshadows especially). It's just not a great idea.
HannahAbbeyT 11 months ago 2
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jonchenic 1 year ago
omg thats no organization!!! 1 you dont keep makeup in your bathroom it causes bacteria and ruins your makeup 2 you dont wind the cords up on hair dryers and stuff 3 i dint own alot of makeup but i have 5x more than that and i need space for it and 4 WTF?!
aquagirl626 1 year ago 2
Don't keep your makeup in the bathroom
warmvanillasugar29 1 year ago
this isn't a very good video i have more makeup than this and i'm 12 and who gets rid of old hair stylers if you get a new one this vid is just for show it sucks
IshaBeauty11 1 year ago
Wait where do u get the little dividers for ur makeup??
MissMinnieCheung 1 year ago
if you keep your makeup in your bedroom rather than in the bathroom the makeup wont expire as quickly and it will also keep the same good consistency and quality as when you first bought it .
amanda1396 1 year ago
Woman my 12 year old sister has more makeup than you!
luvingthepeace 1 year ago 4
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Yeah, they say that about not wrapping the cord, but I've NEVER seen one get damaged from wrapping it up, nor do I know of anyone who has. The motors on blow dryers burn out in a year or two, way too soon for any damage from a cord to be a problem.
Laniana1 1 year ago
Yeah, "they" say that about not wrapping the cord, but I've NEVER seen one get damaged from wrapping it up, nor do I know of anyone who has. The motors on blow dryers burn out in a year or two, way too soon for any damage from a cord to be a problem.
Laniana1 1 year ago
I store my makeup outside of the bathroom I have a vanity and dresser with ample space to store my collections and loot the bathroom seems like not a good place for make up just like you would not store your toothbrush next to the toliet
almondeyes1211 1 year ago
your not supposed to store makeup in the bathroom and your not supposed to wind the cords up either. and i have more makeup than that in my purse...
Addicted2Makeup2009 1 year ago
ok sooooo, what makeup did she organise!! it wud take me weeks 2 organise mine!! i hv tonnes more than that!!!
emacwakeup 1 year ago
Again.. As Everyone Else Says.. I Have Way More Make Up That That Too... And Well Im 14 :/ Addicted To Make Up Already Ey :)
XMissTeenUkX 1 year ago
don't hair stragtiners and curlers get hair in them, so the drew would still get hair in there
ryulady1 1 year ago
ummmm, MAKEUP SHOULD NOT GO IN THE BATHROOM, it's too wet and it makes your makeup go bad!!!!!!!
LaitMinet 1 year ago 2
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sensational looking techniques, thank you, has anybody sampled Rimmels latest range of products? it's not easy to get quality makeup in Oakbrook but you can get some magnificent samples by using "Gratis-Makeup-Samples"! there handy!
shalaryhal 1 year ago
yh and i couldnt even see it the wrighting was cover the whole screen
ht2tuff37 1 year ago
i don't store my makeup in the bathroom, it's unsanitary and too moist.
NothingGirl101 1 year ago
Uh, my 10 year old cousin has more makeup.
cattyclai277983 1 year ago
pfft thats hardly ANY makeup! i have like 3 massive bags of makeup!
hmfrx 1 year ago 2
You actually happen to be notably gorgeous, thanks for your video. it is unfortunate im living within Kingsland simply because i can not find very good cosmetics, however i receive cost-free trials through "Gratis Makeup Samples". i love Max factor cosmetics!
sherrierooksch272 1 year ago
@msMicrowave awwww! Shut up!! Ur just jealous cuz katrinamess know wats she is talking about unlike u!
rolladollabill97 1 year ago
I like the sheet bag idea (: I put some of my old curling irons in it
kallimo92 1 year ago
Holy rude KatrinaMess material bitch
Cute video and great idea with the rollers in the sheet bag!
MsMicrowave 1 year ago
@MsMicrowave agreed
SIMPLYME100 1 year ago
wow i barely have anymakeup at all and it takes up 3 drawer set things and i didnt know i would need 3 i thought i only need 1 but i was wrong ...... wow...
Xxpulaskifal14xX 1 year ago
A new ASOTV product just launched called StackMates, the StackMates Storage System...you can search the word 'StackMates' in youtube search box, will really help for kitchen organizing!
asotvfan 1 year ago
make up isn't supposed to be stored in a bathroom, as there is more bacteria to grow from the shower and other water supplies.
But i do like the video, where can you get them clear make up container things from? (I'm from the UK by the way)
holleiighhDoll 1 year ago 4
The make-up drawer is a normal amount of make-up. This isn't a hoarders video.
Anastasia4141 1 year ago
uno that ur not supose to store makeup in the bathroom, because of the stream from the shower it builds bactertia??
tayj16 1 year ago 2
uno that ur not supose to store makeup in the bathroom, because of the stream from the shower it builds bactertia??
tayj16 1 year ago
i want a a how to organize study table..
books..
pens..
files..
09194586489 1 year ago 3
i could fill at least 6 drawers full of makeup lol... i have to keep my makeup in the bedroom at my desk. ..
natesmom2244 1 year ago 2
i thought the drawer that was open first was the "disorganized" part, not the organizes..
lmfaoxkatie 2 years ago 15
me too
adizzy2005 2 years ago 2
i put my hair stuffs in a drawer to really organize them and so as my brushes and combs...
lipguhloss223 2 years ago
If you don't have drawers you can get stacking organizers and put those in a cabinet or small stacking shelves and then put the bags on those. Stacking bins hold hair supplies, including blow dryers & such. You can also add hooks on the inside of your cabinet doors and hang curling irons and blow dryers by those. There is always a solution.
ThreeCentStamp 2 years ago
Hi! I wish I had drawers in my bathroom, but I don't think I would put my make up there b/c I take pretty warm showers and it could melt my lipsticks, and get moisture into my make up. Thanks for the video though:)
MsDancer4evaJC 2 years ago
The same thing goes for me. Even if i did have drawers i still wouldn't put my makeup in there because the bathroom always has the most bacteria.
deadrockstar101 2 years ago
small duplex apartment has no drawers
.... one 3 shelf thing and 1 small cabinet... which i share with 3 roomates .... :/
DeathsK1ss 2 years ago 3
Some of us don't have drawers in our bathroom, and winding up cords, as I have just read in a previous comment, does indeed damage it. This is not a very good how to.
InsanityxDefence 2 years ago 5
Well, I share a bathroom w/ my brother, and we have no drawers.
JesusFreakShirah 2 years ago 4
WOW.. lol 'great advice'
OblueflyO 2 years ago 6
i need everything there right in frount of me and i hate looking for stuff i have alot of stuff
xoxoxojessica 2 years ago 3
This isn't make up organization.... It's only maybe 25 things! Give me a woman with half a MAC store and some Givenchy/ Nars on top and lets do some real organizing. It doesn't need work until it's crowding you out of your living space. Even my friends who don't wear make up have more than that. Besides, keeping make up in the bathroom is begging for problems. That's why you have a dressing table and it's in the nice dry bedroom.
KatrinaMess 3 years ago 140
I totally agree.
hiper95 2 years ago
@KatrinaMess yes k , she went wrong on storing it in the bathrroom but i highly doubt you own half a mac store hunny and if you do , its your own bloody fault for buying everything. you cannot ue every ingle product every day so start by laying it all out on your bed and picking out things you ue alot. i can garuntee you will onli end up with 20-25 things. so in future , keep rude opinions to yourself and quit wasting your money on makeup and start giving some to charity.
SmileySasky 1 year ago
@SmileySasky she didnt say she has half a mac store she said to have some with half a mac store and then do an organization video. Many women have a lot more makeup than the video. lots of people like to have variety. I only put makeup on about once a week and i have twice that. With that you said she needs to keep rude opinions to herself, well so do you
johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 Yes she did. KatrinaMess said in her comment that she had about half a mac store of make up. dont you contradict me bitch
SmileySasky 1 year ago
@SmileySasky Wel actually, she really didn't :D She said "Give me a woman with half a MAC store" not "I have half a MAC store" ..
Alexandraaax3 1 year ago
@Alexandraaax3 listen. i no she didnt EXACTLY say she had half a mac store. but thats what she meant. no please quit replying or act more mature . ..
SmileySasky 1 year ago
@SmileySasky and i quote "Give me a woman with half a MAC store and some Givenchy/ Nars on top and lets do some real organizing." Tell me where she said that she had half a mac store, and your comment to alexandraaaz3 about acting more mature. YOU are the only one not being mature. So next time you want to try calling someone out make sure you actually read there comment. HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 yes but she was aiming it at herself. gosh some people are obviously not great at english :L:L HAVE A CRAP DAY !!! ( such attitude .. )
SmileySasky 1 year ago
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johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 first , you do not think outside the box on account you do not consider other things. second , she was making a statement that she owned quite a lot of makeup , hunn. and also you think you are so much better then me darling but actualy , i have an A+ in HONOURS english so you can't talk. ( no if you continue to be difficult , i shall block you and also , i am not the only one speaking my mind about this video. there are plenty of other people foryou to fight with)
SmileySasky 1 year ago
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johnston1228 1 year ago
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johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 omfg would you ever just GIVE OVER! your english is crap too , its responded not "reasponded". i simply made a typo. that doesnt affect m grammar dumb ass. you spelled a WORD completly wrong. ive been on your page . all you seem to do is post mean RUDE comments on loads of videos. you are a rude mean judgemental person. get a fkin life and move on CHILD ..
SmileySasky 1 year ago
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johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 Hah the only reason i went on your page was to see who you were and why you were posting rude comments. and i will answer your question : she was making the statement by saying " gimme a woman with half a mac store ! " as in she was aiming that she wanted a video with more makeup because she had lots herself. why would she say this if she didnt have a lot of make up ? HAPPY NOW??and i couldnt care less what you are. your comments mean nothing to me and i have a great life :)
SmileySasky 1 year ago
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johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 haha i dont care
SmileySasky 1 year ago
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johnston1228 1 year ago
@johnston1228 lol ur the one who keeps replying . ur just as rude
SmileySasky 1 year ago
@KatrinaMess I don't have much more makeup than that and I wear makeup everyday :/
aliskey62389 1 year ago
@KatrinaMess then watch a makeup organization video by a makeup guru who also owns half of the MAC store, lol.
eienMMO 1 year ago
@KatrinaMess does the average female really have half a mac store?
ElegantlyBrown 1 year ago 14
@ElegantlyBrown yes i practically do
MissyLovesBoysForevs 1 year ago
@ElegantlyBrown lol. no. and the only people who do makeup collection vids own less than 1/4 of a mac store.
Gothgirl4370 11 months ago
@KatrinaMess this is for normal people
meganxosecret 9 months ago
@KatrinaMess
I used to keep my make-up in my bathroom but things got spilt and eyeliner melted. So no I made a little station in my room!
Vinny123IconicBoyz 7 months ago
@KatrinaMess If you have half a store of make up and its crowding you out of living space, you have a problem that can't be solved only with organization. Its not the standard for most people and for the make up addicts there are tons of gurus who show you how to organize this much make up.
Mondoshawn 4 months ago
hmm...clinique powder, or maybe its blush, mac lipsticks, with one from their moonbathe collection i believe...as well as a few eyeshadows from moonbathe...and bobby brown lip compact. the other brands...i dont know
swim1116 3 years ago
:D not bein rude :D but this didnt really help me :d sorry :D thanx thoo :D
rowdygyalxx12 3 years ago 2
haha then why did you watch this....
HarajukuLovers1311 2 years ago 2
What does seeing the brand name have to do with knowing what color the lipstick is? God knows I have a few different shades by the same company in the same style container.
MyCosmicJoke 3 years ago
Ur not suppose to wind them up cause it damages the cord
dabadestceecee 3 years ago 80
@dabadestceecee yes.. one of my many pet peeves! winding the cords!!!!
minakom1224 1 year ago
@dabadestceecee dat fact helps a lot coz 4 ages ive been winding them up thanks
MakeupPlaza 1 year ago
@dabadestceecee
oh really...? fuck why didnt someone tell me before hand? but if you cant wind the cords up, how will i store it? i have a teeny tiny room and i always wrap the cords around. how will i store it?
novideosforme123 1 year ago
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xcomagirlx 11 months ago
@novideosforme123 lot of hair dryers/straighteners/curlers now have little rubber loops on the ends, you can use this to hang them on little hooks (I like to use those 3M temporary adhesive ones, so that i'm not making holes) inside of a cupboard or closet, if you have the space, and then either let the cord hang free or gently fold the cord in big loops and secure it with a loose hair elastic
xcomagirlx 11 months ago
@novideosforme123 Well.. you know how you first got the heat tool? How the cord was bunched together in like a back and forth motion? Do that lol (did that make sense?) When ur finish wrap a hairtie, ribbon or rubberband around it to keep the cords together THEN store them =) You can store them in a drawer or even in a cute little basket =) Sorry it took 10 months to reply! I never saw this lol
dabadestceecee 3 months ago
OCD
rolandviado 3 years ago 3
hahahaha.
N4TTLES 3 years ago
have to say this is too time consuming for me. I want my supplies HANDY. I don't wrap the cord up around my hair dryer and put it away. It's on a shelf, ready for me to grab. I only use 3 make-up items and they are in a decorative jar on the sink, along with my hair brush. I'm 59...less is more efficient for me.
ginab6 3 years ago 8
I Need Some Of Those Clear Makeup Containers, Where Can I Get Themm??
brokenbabe1 3 years ago 2
pointless its freaking common sense people...
KeishKeish23 3 years ago
hey why does the vid. keep stopping and going! its soo annoying x soo sorry but its just doing it :S x but love the techniques :p x
cutiebabes360 3 years ago
83,897 videos? OMFG
idig 3 years ago
lol now it's 89,298 they added... 5,401 videos in 3 weeks!!!! lol
4foreverxme 3 years ago
I enjoyed your use of "City Of Love" in the beginning of the vid
chodiestchode 3 years ago
great if you have THAT much time on your hands.
youngAtHeArT1929 3 years ago 2
abcmgabc is half right. You can wind the wires, but they have to be rolled GENTLY otherwise damage will occur.
BudGirl86 3 years ago
Youu Shouldnt Wind Your Cables Around Your Equpiment. It Can Damage The Wires Inside And Not Let As Much Heat Through To The Straightening Irons. x
abcmgabc 4 years ago 5
you can actually wind them around your hand or fold them over a couple of times and put a rubber band or grocery store twist tie around them.
WONDAWOMAN 3 years ago 2
You should use Belkin velcro cable ties.
kellymariexo 3 years ago
that make-up drawer was amazing
aqua2291 4 years ago
this video actually helped me ha
Beatdownnbroken 4 years ago 2