Dice-O-Matic

[nazaxprime]

How often do you replace dice? How are they inspected? Eleven months ago, you said they never stop, but that isn't technically possible because they obviously abrade one another while tumbling... Anyhow, pretty cool stuff.

[afaultytoaster]

ROLL FOR DAMAGE

[Umbranox90]

Poor machine, the dices just keep coming back at it!

[toastgodsupreme]

Have you ever kept a running history of rolls just to see if certain numbers are favored more than others?

[DREWVIX1992]

*computers voice*

You rolled a 2.

o.o

[TheMw2beastneydude]

what... the.. hell okity .

[NightHunterClaws]

I love the concept of the dice-o-matic, but it doesn't seem to show any dice stopping. The practicality is non-existent, except from an artistic point of view, unless you make a small hole to let the occasional random die shoot out.

[snesin]

@NightHunterClaws

The dice never stop. They get their picture taken while in the buckets as they pass the camera (conveyor line camera, fast shutter speed). As practical as it gets for bulk true dice rolling.

[p0lishsausage]

@NightHunterClaws It's practical for people who don't like the idea of using computers to generate random numbers, since they aren't truly random. This though, is.

[tvcrunkfool]

the last time i saw something that useless was when big brother was still on

[andersdesertfoxIV]

omg you use an actual physical machine for the dice rolls in my wwii games! thats crazy

[jacksawild]

Everyone on youtube is a dick. It's the law of youtube.

[USAattacks]

class machine

though Im sure i can see a couple of dice with only 6s on them.

[wbaker82]

Way more awesome that your average PRNG, but not particularly higher quality than just calling your random() of choice. Theoretical dice make for perfect randomness, but real-life dice are all unequally weighted and won't give you particularly better results than a software method.

Also, homologygroup is a pretentious dumbfuck.

[powpanda]

@wbaker82

homologygroup actually made a good point: those dice rolls only seem random because of all the information one would need to predict the dice, and also a perfect model of the universe. I don't see why that's pretentious at all since we are talking about randomness.

[mikeharper05]

what is the monopoly dice size? (normal dice size)

is it this? 16mm (5/8")

[FlippDurch]

It´s not completely random? I think it is, because some dice are hanging above, and you can´t simulate that. (You can maybe but it´s hard). Very cool machine and 1000 times nicer than a random generator software.

[Zeuts85]

That's fucking awesome. Guess I can't bitch about the dice rolls anymore when I lose to my friends at Gambit. ;)

[xodkrm]

good job!

[vh7fdbg0]

For my purposes, I will accept their randomness. Maybe I could get them to be more random if I rolled them with my own hand, but only if I had maybe a triple-length craps table to roll them on.

P.S. Homologygroup, quantum effects can of course be neglected in this case, but consider the increase in entropy due to each die's loss of potential energy during its descent through Earth's gravity well.

[KomonHouseholdObjex]

Well it just sounds like a bunch of hyperbole. Quantum effects? Entropy? Gravity? Its the rolling of dice. We all know you are very smart.

[ve2zzz]

If the machine is not true random, that means that you could predict it's results. Apart from saying "Betweem 1 and 6", are you sure that you could predict it's results ?

And don't tell me about quantum physics, i never understood quantum mechanics and think i'll never do !

[homologygroup]

if you gave me the position and angle of all those dice and a really powerful computer and a sufficient amount of time I could predict how each die would land

[askmagus]

True you could do that, but the amount of time that would take would be astronomical! XD

Say there were less dice it would be a LOT easier to predict it... however with anything there are more things that effect the dice than we take into consideration, eg temperature, humidity... etc

=^_^=

Just a cool ass machine XD

[nikdudnik]

@homologygroup also you would need an environment with ideal physical qualities which doesn't exist so you are wrong.

[precosky]

This is one cool piece of engineering! Machine vision, a chain drive, LEDs, a cool looking case

[taufiq1991]

wat da fuck is this shit 4

[gfixler]

Come on, taufiq. You are 18 years old. That is old enough to drive in the US, and that means you're old enough to read signs on the side of the road to learn things about what road you're on, and which street or exit is coming up. You should likewise be old enough to read the info box next to the video to learn things about what the content therein represents. We are all counting on you to be able to do this. Don't let us down again.

[taufiq1991]

have it ever occured to you that i'm not in us? I don't see why i need to learn these things for. are they useful?

[gfixler]

Yes, it occurred to me, but if you're 18, then you should be at least somewhat capable of gathering simple info without swearing into the void. The info box right next to the video not only tells you what this does, but links you to a full article about it. Pardon me for being baffled by the scores of YouTube users who seem incapable of discovering even the simplest information for themselves. Another that boggles me is how many people ask what song accompanies a video when the info explains it.

[nikdudnik]

@taufiq1991 why do you need to comment a video? is this useful?

[CTRMann]

Anyone who knows anything about computers knows that /dev/random is not truly random. Computer programs use algorithms to generate a number and a computer can only be random to an "acceptable" degree. This device creates truly random roles. This is cool. I would love to see one using d20s!

[BigEdgePoker]

The whole premise you are arguing is that there is no such thing as randomness and in this you are correct. But you yourself accuse this of being trualy random, when it really is only random to an acceptable degree.

[ytacccc]

Those dice aren't truely random either as true randomness doesn't exist. Putting enough effort into it one could calculate the various forces that make the dice in this machine move and calculate how they end up when everything stops.

But because this would require so much effort, it is simply called a random event.

Just to be a bit picky... :)

[EVERYTHINGISINUSE]

how about quantum superposition, thats pretty random

[homologygroup]

Anybody who knows anything about *physics* knows that, assuming quantum effects aren't in play here, these rolls aren't completely random either. The only thing that's truly random would be passing a photon through two polaroids at 45 degree angles with respect to each other or something.

[KomonHouseholdObjex]

What about which one of my sperms lands in your eye when I nut? That's pretty random.

[baxter22071990]

i agree this is cool but whats its point?

[NukeSkywalker1]

It's funny cause you're both idiots. Streakiness is not a property of a bad random number generator. In fact if a number generator never had streaks it would be by definition a bad random number generator.

[coldplasma]

/dev/random is a lot cheaper

[Rozesama]

yes but this is no where near as streaky and this is way cooler

[coldplasma]

/dev/random is a true random number generator, it uses background noise in the hardware.

[Rozesama]

that can still be rather streaky

this is still way cooler

[coldplasma]

If you're suggesting background noise, ie the noise that you see on a static television set, is "streaky", then you seriously need to readjust your understanding of basic maths and physics.

[Rozesama]

so you've never seen patterns in that? you've never seen a figure walk across the screan

[arbitterm]

Wouldn't a random number generator be cheaper?

[hetriusraptor]

now, the hands are very old, and the men must use this machine XDXD

[kkeop]

where can i get one of these?

[gochief69]

wow awesome gadget...a little noisy but definately neat!

[couchpatatoe51]

wonder how long those dice last.

[mikenovelozo]

i like that you have a real comment about the video in the middle of all this stuff and that is an awsome question. i wonder how long the dice last before they start to crumble

[UDOWN4SUMREALTALK]

wow u make machin to roll dice for u thats weak

u want dice rolled? roll som fuckin dice. u want more dice rolled? hire sum asians

[joejumps4fun]

Wow, you can't read the info box to the right of the video.

[UDOWN4SUMREALTALK]

yeah i red it my point still stands stupid fuck u weak

[joejumps4fun]

Ooh you can curse and act like your tough oh I'm scared! Fag.

[UDOWN4SUMREALTALK]

ill show u a world of pain boi lets meet ill show u wats wat

[danieltobey]

lol what grade are you in? 5th? 6th? You're challenging someone to a fight over youtube. Way to be an idiot.

[UDOWN4SUMREALTALK]

u wan 2 go too punk u want to rock we'll rock

[joejumps4fun]

We had a little cadence for whiny little bitch-snots like you in the military:

Wah, wah, wah,

You want your milk & cookies

Wah, wah, wah,

Go suck your mama's titties

Seriously, get a life.

[UDOWN4SUMREALTALK]

u werent in the military even if u werent enjoi being bait 4 da government

i laugh at u pathetic americans

[Fuhgl]

Okay, try to understand this: It needs to roll many, many times. Is it better to hire some people to roll dice 24/7, or buy a one-time payment machine?

[alexsq2]

Wow I never thought I would see a truly random mass generator. Very Cool!

[Tacoeaterguy]

Correction. Read description.

[Sunworshipperprod]

You're the lazy one for not reading the description. Whey.

[hunterhunter4545]

what is the point of that?

[x0p30d3]

maybe read the description

[kameelyan]

machine produces X results per minute - what if you need more dice rolls than that?

[ChromeXk]

lol it generates 1.3 million rolls a day why would you ever need more than that?! If ya check out the guys website he says he only needs to run it an average of 1.5 hours a day to produce enough data for his site. If he did need more than 1.3m, he could increase the belt speed, add more dice, add more hoppers etc.

[fishcomputer33]

why is it that everyone that doesn't know what it is didn't look at the description -_-. It's there for a reason.

[trick9850]

a dice should come out for your money to be worth it

[Notoria666]

A die.

[12gaugebleachdrinker]

I like the recognition software. Very cool overall. And I don't even play dice games... unless its in an alley with Leon and DeShawn.

[17J3]

This Is Helpful... How?

[Notoria666]

Dice board games, like D&D, other games.

[douro20]

Did they develop this equipment entirely in house?

[jarrodsmith1992]

As cool as that thing looks what is it supoosed to do

[engagequadlaser]

Exactly what it appears to be doing, idiot.

[nischalgautam100]

dont know...

[ChromeXk]

No offence but its called the dice-o-matic what the fuck do you think it does?! And if that wasnt enough, theres the description which everyone seems to have missed despite it being at the top of the screen!!! People really make me *facepalm sometimes, they really do.

[LoudBEATING000]

what tha' fuck is that fuckin' shit ???

[Bcrazyecua13]

It's A Dice-O-Matic. Dumbshit.

[limaq]

awesome, man!

[l0n3azn]

how do videos like these get nearly a hundred thousand views? xD

[midomlt]

when it takes days/weeks/months to prepare something what is shown in few minutes, it gets viewers.

as for me, it is remarkable technology showing how some old school principles prevail over all the modern math and CS research :)

[reddemunn]

This is every bit of awesome. Screw you psuedo-random.

[irwin770]

whats this thing use for? other than throwing random numbers?

[hinro]

The worlds most epic game of craps ever.

[CoolCalmJames]

Thats so epic.

Im gonna wait for him.

[arivera3426]

i'll start killing you first, fag.

[b3astieboi2]

wow the woorld can use another one

[Xg3niu5]

Wigga, you must be the most retarded person I have ever met.

[pikoykukoy]

i wasted 1:25 min of my life watching this vid

[HunBountyHunter007]

+ another 4 secs writing this comment ^^

[DeviMauz]

play-by-email games.

[surfnakd23]

why?

[sedonapwnage]

and the point of this machine is...

[alexcassidy89]

It is a proven fact that a computer cannot generate a completely random number, its all based on equations to create one that seems random, This machine is capable of genuine random numbers... if anyone cares lol

[midomlt]

I don't consider dices being genuinely random, but oh well, there's enough of entropy here.

[jubuttib]

True, those didn't look like particularly well made dice either. When they put precision machined casino dice in there, then we're talking.

[ThespEDkids]

why do we need this..damn vegas.. wait we live there..sht lmfao

-ThespEDkids

[11meow11]

Pointless.

[GrayVizard]

well it would speed up character rolls that's for sure you'd have stats for the next few YEARS of gaming

[kancerzx]

All this time I was wrong..

[steven19704]

lol WHY,, people with too much spare time

[dmanschaumbizzie]

i think its worse when you are on here watching the video of it.. haha

[od7m25z9]

The computer age of Las Vegas XD

[enoonerehwon]

I must have this for Christmas!

[kalishiva18]

ummmm...just wow...ummm

[Truthiness231]

Um, how are random number generators not good enough? And yes I have some computer science training and realize it's not "true" randomness... still, this = failure of humanity...

[0FauxPa0]

No they are not good enough and are very open to tampering. Alot of people claim poker websites have "random number" generators that still favour specific odds that make people bet high but produce the most "rake"

[bcrounse]

I think this will hasten the entropy death of the universe. Otherwise, brilliant.

[Mizzle6]

This is AWESOME. Who wants their ashes ground into the plastic dice and interred in this thing? Call it TUMBLE TOMB. "Spend eternity rolling in your grave! Your body is gone, but others can still gamble on your outcome."

[tymo1995]

thats frikken awesome!

[rpcarpentergirl]

how clever!

XD

[kalishiva18]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hah

[tomish]

I'm guessing that the dice would have to be manufactured perfectly cubic to be considered random. I'm also guessing that if the number "holes" were indents like most common dice then there would be a weight imbalance that could favor a certain outcome over another

[FPilotBierce]

This is why the opposite sides of the die always add to 7. So the holes balance out on all three sides and the die is truly random.

[Mizzle6]

I'm wondering the same thing. But Bierce, if a side has one hole drilled and the other has six holes drilled, wont side "1" weigh more than side "6" due to the uneven amount of material removed from each side? Unless you drill to different depths...

If the average of all the single die roll values is 3.5, then he's got a random system. True?

[kcg5000]

the dice they would use in casinos would be razors. perfect casino dice have no weight imbalances. (maybe a SLIGHT imbalance, only noticeable after 1000's of rolls)

[trackonerecordings]

this is cool

[pixelbath]

valkhorn: Why not use Windows? It seems to be working fine.  Do you believe another operating system will somehow work better for processing images?

TBDTFG (afxgrin) - Are you serious? You actually believe that the dice are going to repeat based on the 'pattern' of movement? Please show your work on how you think this will generate statistically repeatable rolls.

That's what I thought.

[Tyrbok]

WTF?

import random

while 1: random.randint(1, 6)

done!

[scorpion0x7a69]

Every programmer can tell you that a random number generator isn't really random... Anyway, this wasn't as much as to get "real random numbers" but more to satisfy the needs to the customers who complained about not having "real random numbers". This might just be an observation that might not be valid and any decent RNG might proof to be more "random" then this machine; In the end it's the customer who needs to be happy, and if this doesn't cut it, then I don't know what will.

[Tyrbok]

That was a joke :(

[wjbitomski]

in python!

in common lisp you could do:

(loop collect (random 1 6))

because (random) is part of the standard, for some sick reason...

[valkhorn]

Why use Windows for the software though?

[bhutos]

Pure, pure goodness.

[sim901]

Meanwhile, at Valve...

[bobwhobobwhobobwho]

It moves so fast you don't want to bother verifying 1.3 million rolls. But the cheating feature is not utilized until later, when nobody is looking. Anyone who can build one of these and take into account all of the issues of confronting statistical disqualification is definitely capable of implementing a cheat, some how, some way, no matter how small, there is an angle that can be figured out or exploited eventually.  Never trust the owners, operators, or winners. Never trust a gamble.

[Konversekid]

These games have very little to do with how random the dice rolls are; most of them simply give a higher probability for the owner/dealer to win.

[afxgrin]

whoops - meant to write that with my account, not my brothers... TBDFTG

[beyondhelp00]

Your comments are not random enough, you need to add some more randomness into your comments ;)

[canolupa]

I hope you're applying for a patent!

[sabrejack2]

Why would he patent this? It's an obvious solution. It's not easy work, and I'm impressed seeing it in action, but it's not as if it was some sort of breakthrough idea.

[crasch4]

Beautiful machine.

[leobaby]

What camera are you using?

[umilmi81]

So what's the distribution of rolls?