Why am I giving up being an RAC officer to go to Univeristy. I would rather join the RAc and fight than be in front of a computer all day at Uni. Seriosuly if the Army offered alot more for officers I would be applying in a heartbeat.
@X9000BulletsX I totally agree with you mate, I'm all ready to join the AAC with the prime motive of being a pilot - But Officers get a comparatively short time of flying before they're moved to a lesser (desk) role, whereas an NCO can fly as long as he's fit for it. That's why I'm at Uni, otherwise I wouldn't of hesitated, plus I could be posted anywhere at RMAS. Look on the bright side - as and when we do get in, well get better pay!
The only difference between smoothbore and rifled is that rifled is more accurate and they are keeping the cannon 120mm and will shoot the same ammo as it does now so the cannon will be even worse
By the way the ammo the challenger 2 shoots now will knock out any known tank out on the battlefield
And don't bother questioning me as I am a gunner of a challenger 2 tank
@natsplit Kommt mir unlogisch vor, wäre aber interessiert an einer logischen Erklärung (und dankbar dafür). Aufgrund des allgemein geringen Luftwiderstandes von Wuchtgeschossen, müsste die Abnahme der kinetischen Energie im Verhältnis doch in etwa gleich sein. Was auf größere Distanzen besser sein dürfte, ist die Präzision aufgrund des Dralls, welchen das Geschoss durch die Züge in der Kanone beim CH2 erfährt.
Der Penetrator ist dünner und länger als der des Leo2 und hat daher etwas weniger Luftwiderstand. Außerdem ist der Luftwiderstand exponentiell zur Geschwindigkeit. Daher nähern sich die Geschwindigkeiten langsamer und schnell fliegenden Geschosse auf Distanz ziemlich stark an.
Leopard 2 A6 --- You need to have had experience in order to come out with a comment like that. Unfortunately I doubt anyone has used all the worlds tanks in a combat environment/theatre. Have you fought with or against all the tank crews of the world, to know what your talking about? Or are you just speaking with big bollocks between your cheeks? There's no doubt in my mind most modern tanks can do the business. German engineering is world class, but it's not alone!
In world war 2 tigers and panthers to name but a few reigned supreme, and it took allot of other tanks to take each one out.
What I'm trying to say is that there is no heavy modern tank alive that can withstand a direct hit from another heavy modern tank (Yes the tank might be okay and repairable, but the crew will be fucked up).
Not allot of peeps know this.
Ex CH2 crewman who served with A Sqn 1RTR who are in this video.
@natsplit you are talking as though this is a computer game, where the biggest gun wins. In real life tank warfare is much different, there are many ways to kill a tank without blowing it into tiny pieces. Tankers ( gunners and layers etc) are taught to aim for vital areas, such as tracks, turret joins or engines/exhaust areas. If any of these are hit it will destroy or disable the vehicle. An RPG or Panzerfaust (etc) have a far smaller chance of penetrating, but can still cause severe damage
ive done nearly 5 years mate and ive loved bits an hated bits, im getting out in september tho cos of loadsa reasons , the only regrets i have is not getting a trade before i joined because the infantry doesnt offer you any decent qualifications for civvy street. Id recomend joining something like the reme or the engineers unless you wanna be a hard faced killere lol hope that helped a bit
Why am I giving up being an RAC officer to go to Univeristy. I would rather join the RAc and fight than be in front of a computer all day at Uni. Seriosuly if the Army offered alot more for officers I would be applying in a heartbeat.
X9000BulletsX 10 months ago
@X9000BulletsX I totally agree with you mate, I'm all ready to join the AAC with the prime motive of being a pilot - But Officers get a comparatively short time of flying before they're moved to a lesser (desk) role, whereas an NCO can fly as long as he's fit for it. That's why I'm at Uni, otherwise I wouldn't of hesitated, plus I could be posted anywhere at RMAS. Look on the bright side - as and when we do get in, well get better pay!
AACBrit 8 months ago
@natsplit
The only difference between smoothbore and rifled is that rifled is more accurate and they are keeping the cannon 120mm and will shoot the same ammo as it does now so the cannon will be even worse
By the way the ammo the challenger 2 shoots now will knock out any known tank out on the battlefield
And don't bother questioning me as I am a gunner of a challenger 2 tank
Alex555666555 1 year ago
@Alex555666555
The problem with rifled cannons is, that the muzzle velocity is much lower.
The Challangers APFSDS round (charm 3) has a penetration of about 400mm rha.
Leopard2, M1A2 Abrams, T90M... all withstand 400mm rha with ease.
natsplit 1 year ago
@natsplit 400mm? Really that low? If you're right than the penetration is really low compared to modern smoothbore guns.
TheBigTittyTwister 10 months ago
@TheBigTittyTwister
Ja. Wobei die Durchschlagskraft beim CH2 konstanter ist. Bei Glattrohrläufen nimmt sie mit der Distanz stärker ab.
Würde der Leopard auf 3km noch treffen hätte das Geschoss auch nur eine ähnliche Durchschlagsleistung wie das vom CH2.
natsplit 10 months ago
@natsplit Kommt mir unlogisch vor, wäre aber interessiert an einer logischen Erklärung (und dankbar dafür). Aufgrund des allgemein geringen Luftwiderstandes von Wuchtgeschossen, müsste die Abnahme der kinetischen Energie im Verhältnis doch in etwa gleich sein. Was auf größere Distanzen besser sein dürfte, ist die Präzision aufgrund des Dralls, welchen das Geschoss durch die Züge in der Kanone beim CH2 erfährt.
TheBigTittyTwister 10 months ago
@TheBigTittyTwister
Der Penetrator ist dünner und länger als der des Leo2 und hat daher etwas weniger Luftwiderstand. Außerdem ist der Luftwiderstand exponentiell zur Geschwindigkeit. Daher nähern sich die Geschwindigkeiten langsamer und schnell fliegenden Geschosse auf Distanz ziemlich stark an.
natsplit 10 months ago
@natsplit Du weißt nicht zufällig, wie lang die Penetratoren (nicht Exerziermunition) beim CH2 sind?
TheBigTittyTwister 10 months ago
If i joined the army I would wanna drive that!
daz99uk5 1 year ago
id love to use that on the gypo's!
Jimmymma101 1 year ago
impressive video...but hey...huys...earplugs?? are you kiding me?
Shellocker 1 year ago
ahhh there's the 1 troop massive!! A squadron all the way!!! shame it wasnt my wagon though :S
nd yea he is right its chobham, never heard the word chobbels before in my life, nd i work on em everyday!
spencesmokesweed8376 1 year ago
I went to this, its a fire power demonstration you get to go in all the tanks and that then they show every weapon and vehicle firing (Y) awsome!!
Finchy332 1 year ago
@Finchy332 Finchy if you go to my site i have up loaded the whole demo...
TASHKENTGOATMAN 1 year ago
Leopart 2 A6 German figher and TechnickPower Worlds Best Tank German Rules
Challenger 2 is on 2.Place in the world list
TheMGness 2 years ago
@TheMGness
Leopard 2 A6 --- You need to have had experience in order to come out with a comment like that. Unfortunately I doubt anyone has used all the worlds tanks in a combat environment/theatre. Have you fought with or against all the tank crews of the world, to know what your talking about? Or are you just speaking with big bollocks between your cheeks? There's no doubt in my mind most modern tanks can do the business. German engineering is world class, but it's not alone!
scaredweepel 1 year ago
@scaredweepel
The Challanger2 is a great tank but totally useless, because of its main cannon.
It can't destroy ANY modern tank. I hope they switch to a smoothbore cannon soon.
natsplit 1 year ago
@natsplit
WTF? we are not in a war when we need to destroy tanks.
having a rifled Barrel increases accuracy.
Unlike American Tanks. which can't Hit anything more than 100 yards away.
BKsMassive 1 year ago
@natsplit
Can a great tank be totally useless?
CDStoner 11 months ago
@CDStoner
Don't get me wrong.
CH2 is totally useless in tank vs. tank scenarios.
For asymmetric warfare like in Iraq or Afghanistan its perfect.
natsplit 11 months ago
@natsplit
In world war 2 tigers and panthers to name but a few reigned supreme, and it took allot of other tanks to take each one out.
What I'm trying to say is that there is no heavy modern tank alive that can withstand a direct hit from another heavy modern tank (Yes the tank might be okay and repairable, but the crew will be fucked up).
Not allot of peeps know this.
Ex CH2 crewman who served with A Sqn 1RTR who are in this video.
iamweejonny 11 months ago
@natsplit you are talking as though this is a computer game, where the biggest gun wins. In real life tank warfare is much different, there are many ways to kill a tank without blowing it into tiny pieces. Tankers ( gunners and layers etc) are taught to aim for vital areas, such as tracks, turret joins or engines/exhaust areas. If any of these are hit it will destroy or disable the vehicle. An RPG or Panzerfaust (etc) have a far smaller chance of penetrating, but can still cause severe damage
ferahgo90 10 months ago
@TheMGness lol better than an abrams huh?
aurick7737 1 year ago
waste of ammo lol no wonder they cant make there own shit.
AGeiisz 2 years ago
where they shootin at?
xXsum41rulesXx 2 years ago
the gypos!
engasal 2 years ago 7
they are shooting at salsbuiry steaks
TheGatman101 2 years ago
chobbel armour f'in lovely stuff
ClarkesonTheMarksman 2 years ago
it's Chobham armor.
deucedfour 1 year ago
whatever, every1 pronounces it chobbels ^
ClarkesonTheMarksman 1 year ago
Actually, id say that no one pronounces it chobbels.
XwnXJedi 1 year ago
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they are powerfull ut they break down all the time track bashing is a bitch lol
dntlkbk 3 years ago
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Do these break down all the time?!
hatakashi1900 2 years ago
listen to it! how can any other tank best it? joining up next year, RAC, looking forward to it
S3CT10NE1GHT 3 years ago
yo dude live in warminster and i recognise those challys in the warminster colours
chunkyskids93 3 years ago
u guys have ear muffs on take em off mate and ull see how the real sound is
irishpker27 3 years ago
i was there, good vid mate, but you really dont get the same feel of just how loud the boom of the chally is, so much more impressive in person.
yuggers 3 years ago 11
those challys are loud as fook , i was driving one of the warriors you saw and it nearly deafened me lol even with my head set on
TheDukeOfBoots 3 years ago
bet htey're a laugh though :D
thinking of signing up dude, is it worth it?
engasal 3 years ago
ive done nearly 5 years mate and ive loved bits an hated bits, im getting out in september tho cos of loadsa reasons , the only regrets i have is not getting a trade before i joined because the infantry doesnt offer you any decent qualifications for civvy street. Id recomend joining something like the reme or the engineers unless you wanna be a hard faced killere lol hope that helped a bit
TheDukeOfBoots 3 years ago 2
LARK HILL?
QUEMTIME 3 years ago
Warminster
yuggers 3 years ago
Hope you enjoyed the demo mate, a nightmare to plan and execute, check my video you may like it - type CAFD CAMD and you get it. Cheers
'Virtutis Fortuna Comes'
getrobbo 4 years ago