When I saw N.Koreans "cry" at the funeral of their dear leader, this movie came to mind.
The people within a brainwashed society, fail to realize that they're being enslaved by the very god who they are required to love. Govt.s without dictators have used religion to the same end. Children born into it grow up oblivious to (&often defensive of) the irrationality &ill effects. They have been given the illusion of a free society;and have accepted it on faith which they're told is a great virtue
@madeofhatred My "intolerance" is was directed toward an internet troll; a person whose mission is to spread hate and cruel messages about others for absolutely no reason. So, yeah. I guess you could call it that. And wtf, you're the one "made of hatred", not me...I very much appreciate Buddhist philosophy, but I also believe in defending the defenseless.
@sweetprism00 There is one lesson you will learn in life. You Take the Good With the Bad. Also a man can be judged by his character or if you like words. Yours speaks realms about you. Clean up your act and if YT offends you gtfo.
@manchester2000ful I can only assume you MEANT to direct that toward the person named "made of hatred." If you did, then a lot of us are in agreement...if not, then I don't really know what to say?
@manchester2000ful No prob! Haha, at first I was really mad, and then I realized, wait... it's probably directed at the a-hole starting flame wars all over.
there's no red or blue political party, that's all been a deception. red and blue are the base colors which create purple, the eternal color of royalty.
"When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack-boots. It will be Nike sneakers and Smiley shirts … Germany lost the Second World War. Fascism won it. Believe me, my friend." ~ George Carlin
As I read along, I thought that this book was the possible outcome had the Nazis won the war. Think about it- wanting everyone to be the same, people described as "Jewish-looking" being enemies or being murdered, people who tried to control you, big brother who happens to look like Hitler to me...
I should probably state, that I am neither republican, nor democrat. The left has improved civil RIGHTS, , but on that hand, they have also imposed regulations and such. If anything Jeffersonian republicans where the first to stand for civil librities for the common man, look back to his election when they managed to spread the power of electoral congress to not those who just owned land ,but all individuals.
Democrats politicians are about expanding the size of the federal bureaucracy, They want more regulations, more interference by the government. We need them out. We need the free market to regulate itself. We depend on our government for to many civil programs, but yet we refuse to pay it to do such acts. We are in debt, we don't have any money, and yet we keep spending? We have to cut a lot of programs, that will hurt people, but in the end it will save us. Ron Paul 2012.
You neglect to mention that the democratic party is the one pushing for expanded civil liberties because it doesn't fit the story you're trying to tell.
@Zamboro Expanding civil liberties by imposing more regulations ? I'll accept that sounds overly biased. Both Parties do such things, both try to expand the power of government, and very few actually expand out liberties.
No, expanding civil liberties by pushing for women's rights at the turn of the century, then blacks' rights to vote and intermarry in the 1960s, and most recently the right of gays to marry. The Left and the left ALONE has been pushing for expanded civil liberties. That hasn't been part of the Right's platform since the civil war (when the parties' positions were essentially reversed as the slavery issue caused many to desert one side for the other).
Besides, what does the imposition of regulations on corporations have to do with the civil liberties of individuals? You seem to be conflating the two and it's nonsequitorial.
As Brecht states in his poem, a MAN is a useful creature, he can fly and he can kill, but he has one defect, he can THINK!!!! IDEOLOGY always creates DIVISION which in turn leads to CAOS :-)
Face it! The U.S. is over with! It's going to become VacationLand for the wealthy and many of you will be their bitches. You've done it to yourself. You continue doing it to yourself. Most everything you buy these days, the money goes to another country. You've made them strong. Fed them and they are biting you! While they brainwash you into believing they are feeding you and you should be appreciative of the scraps they allow you to have. I'm not even referring to 1984. I worked for Wal-Mart!
Reminds me of the line Donald Sutherland had in the movie "JFK": "The organizing principle of any civilization is for war. The authority of the government over its people lies in its war policy."
No its not...war is a necserrary evil. Its all about us all coming together and overcoming our obstacles as one. Afterall more is accomplished with us all uniting as one. Then us being solo.
For most of human history, war has always been the same. It is the lower classes (e.g. Plebeians, Proletariat) dying to protect if not augment the riches of the ruling class (e.g. Patricians, Bourgeoisie). War is rarely justifiable and for much of its own history has been waged to expand the wealth and influence of the ruling class. True, some wars are justifiable such as World War II, but those are rare, sporadic occurrences in the queue we humans colloquially know as history.
Great movie. The girl knew what was going on before he did. The comment about women is funny. I'm completely on board, everybody else thinks I'm loco.
This just proves Winston was passionate about overthrowing The Party because he knew of life before it. Julia was young, she knew no other then life a part of The Party. He wanted a rebellion, she was rebellious.
Great bedtime story. Leave it to the woman to fall asleep when he's talking about something really important. If an alien burst out of John's chest she probably would have slept through that, too.
@kucoru16 Lol, happens to me all the time! Maybe subconsciously women know they cant handle severe paradigm shifts too well, so their minds just shut off. Its ok. As long as we the men lead the way and show love and care, our women will follow.
@kucoru16 another interpretation could be that she was collecting evidence against him...letting him read on while the cameras/microphones listen to his "blasphemy"
If your way of life REQUIRES the importation of resources, what happens when the people living on those resources don't want to give them up anymore? War. Our way of life requires war to sustain itself. We need to start thinking differently, and thus living differently, before we destroy ourselves.
what i liked most about this film was that there were no black people in it, or chinese lesbians with american accents in wheelchairs fighting trendy vampires.
@LennySoldier 99.99% don't want conflict?, what has that got to do with anything? You speak rubbish. If I kick your door down and decide to rob your fat arse what are you going to do?. What if the police are overwhelmed or you live in a failed state? Thats right dick head you are going to arm yourself and fight for your right to exist. People like you are idealists that live in a fantasy world.
@Valkyriepure Total headfuck when a society like the UK make people question the right to defend themselves in their own home, or smack someone on the jaw in public for insulting you. The insolence of office.
I remember Walter Cronkite, in the year 1984, talking about Orwells book. He felt that although Soviet Russia and Maoist China were totalitarian giants obsessed with controling the individual and stripping them of free will BUT in America and the West "we" can switch off Big Brother. He felt that "1984" hadn't come true.
@sunainahussain actually people have been comparing the current world to george orwell pretty much since the novel was published. when we approached the year 1984 there were actually people who got a bit scared by that date.
Politically this book was based on what Orwell observed of the Nazis (a Socialist part) and the Communists. That is why if you pay attention it refers often to "INGSOC" which is their buzzword for English Socialism. This has nothing to do with a criticism of Democracy, and it does not even fit if you tried to make it as such.
It is more than that. Orwell was a socialist, and he saw this as the inevitable answer to the growth of capitalism. It was his conclusion that capitalism and Soviet Communism would help collaborating in the way the three empires do in the book; and there being no difference.
This is a man who took part in the Spanish Civil War for the Communists, then wrote a book entitled Homage to Catalonia all about it.
@ComradeJontastic no george orwell believed in the libertarian form of communism(anarchy) the guy took part in the spanish civil war for the anarchist and in catalonia private property was not abolished(as orthodox communist proposed) but it was collectivized between the workers, so basically in orwell's texts there is a sentiment against totalitarian state communism and capitalism and an exaltation of anarchy(libertarian communism) as the solution to our problems
@DanteWhite well technically communism is left wing anarchism because it is supposed to be the supreme stage of governance according to marx. socialism was supposed to be the first stage, where the government took control of the means of production and was eventually supposed to wither away. the problem is, which we have seen repeatedly is making a government with absolute power give it up, which it has never done willingly
@AussiePolitics yes but anarchy is not marxist or lenninist in anyway bakunin used to debate marx's ideas back in the day but yeah anarchism is a type of comunism altough right wing forms of anarchism exist
@DanteWhite yes, there are two different kinds of anarchism: collectivist (left) anarchism and right wing anarchism which basically views the government as a barrier to freedom and people should be left alone to allow the free market to function properly.
according to marx and lenin communism is basically indistinguishable from collectivist anarchism because the government is no longer needed. now personally I think in a state of nature we are less free but that's what some ppl think
@AussiePolitics yes but left wing anarchism rejects marx's concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat and they also reject the idea that the state would own the means of production so in left wing anarchism there would be no state institutions just private institutions that would be owned by the workers instead of a capitalist
@DanteWhite I would say that the main difference between communists and collectivist anarchists would be that communists believe that the government needs to take over everything inlcluding the means of production in the socialist stage to prepare the country for true communism while pure anarchists would be just as opposed to that as the current system and would like to see the whole lot gone overnight
actually once that Communism is eventually achieved the State would have to be dissolved, hence, your perception is incorrect.
Nowhere in their works the founding fathers of Socialism and Communism require the State to be involved in economy, save to vigilate that the means of productions are controlled by the very workers employing them.
State control of the means of production, as in the USSR or maoist china has always been an heresy toward proper Socialist/Communist doctrine
@RealKull and who would force the state to be dissolved? every single time people give the government too much power it NEVER wants to give it up without a fight. the ussr and china may not have been communist but they give you a pretty good idea of what happens whenever someone claiming to be 'communist' takes power.
power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. you are never going to get people to give up absolute power to allow communism of this.
Actually,the left wing of Communism(& more principled version)-AnarchoCommunism--has had a generally short lived but extremely rich history(& was usually crushed by both Communist & Fascist dictators wherever it sprung up)around the globe,from the Ukraine to Spain to Manchuria to Isreal to Mexico,but all we're ever fed in US history books & the corporate press is the history of brutal state Communism because it serves the function of reinforcing capitalist foreign policy.
@flipjay11 So true my friend so true but there are people like who want to change. Look at Obama he can make a difference but Republicans (ie. those assholes who only defend the rich) keep harrassing and do nothing but ssit on their coporate fed asses just waiting for their next election. Then again Democrats have their own problems too.
@flipjay11 Whoever's in charge will always be hated based on humanity's tendency to arrange itself into hierarchies and thus divisions, castes and classes of people; those who have, those who haven't. The people at the top can't be related to, so we feel they must be replaced. And when they are... Those that follow must be replaced.
Competition = bitterness. Equality = stagnation. Thus a ceaseless cycle of the self-loathing human spirit caught between having to one or the other.
@flipjay11 That is ignorant. Democracy and totlitarianism are completely different, whether or not the spreading of biased ideas occurs. In George Orwell's country, change is impossible. In our country, if people stop being so dumb, then the politicians will be able to do nothing.
@Thantophobia1 Really bro? I had to start a search just to find your rude ass comment. Yeah i'm aware that. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one and they all stink. And I don't need yours. So thanks for wasting my time to tell me something I already know
@flipjay11 Yes, yes, very good, but I just thought of something else: what Friedrich Nietzsche called the tyranny of the majority. When majority rules, the minority is powerless, and the smallest minority is the individual. We are all individuals; we are all the smallest minority, and in the end, we have no power at all, in the face of the millions of people who vote. It's made even worse that politicians don't care about the majority anyway.
Corporate power is just as bad as any government. All corporations are extremely totalitarian, heirarchically structured tyrannies. Any world where corporations are the dominant power will be structured the same way. People would have to become mindless farm animal consumers to ensure they keep buying ever-lower quality crap to keep profits up as resources disappear.. Also war is extremely good for business, so expect lots and lots of that. Sound familiar?
Winston Smith is a nutcase conspiracy theorist! That book he's reading is all bullshit, he just wants to believe in a controlling elite because he cant face reality! There is no Thought Police! Big Brother was democratically elected! Nothing is happening that our leaders havent told us about! Etc.
All unwinnable. All wars against the people initiated by their governments. All stripping us of our freedoms and increasing government power over citizens.
The war ( war on terror) is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. A hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. In truth, the war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects ( americans) and it's purpose is not victory over eurasia (Iraq) or eastasia (afghanistan), but to keep the very structure of society intact.
The best prison is one in which the prisoners feel they are free. So perhaps we are blindly imprisoned while we hold onto this sense of freedom that is constantly being hand fed to us
how can you say these are equal evils? How does Capitalist corporate power even remotely compare to the oppression caussed by totalitarian rule both in the past and in the present
Only one or a few people can't make a big difference to a major corporation. I could rally some hippies together and boycott Coca-Cola, but that's not going to change any trends in how much they produce because the statistics are so small. Supply and Demand is Bullshit. Still, That's not to say that Government mandated exploitation is any better. I am a strong believer that both Private and Government power are equal evils (Left-Anarchist)
Private power (without violence) is power you have to willingly concede, it is not taken, and it is therefore difficult to attach the evil term to it.
And a fascist, genocidal dictator who wins a democratic election? Isn't that also power you have to willingly concede to, and aren't they worthy of the title "Evil" as much as a similar dictator who came to power in a coup?
The power the president holds over you is that he controls a government that claims a monopoly on violence over us. If you don't do what they say you get the violence including the right to take your life if you resist that power.
The failure to recognize the president his government and the authority they claim as a result of an election comes with the threat of force escalatable to include death.
i.e. defy the majorities claimed political power and you get violence.
A perfect example of government corruption, evil, etc. Not exactly KGB or Gestapo, but many people in prison are innocent.
Still, not to say just how violent or exploitative corporations can be in 3rd world countries. For instance, when a Coca-Cola Bottling Plant in Columbia was attacked by a fascist terrorist organization that killed union members in that plant, their security did Nothing.
If you don't like Coke, don't buy, sell, or work for coke.
Maybe others will agree with you and Coke will fail through lack of support. If Coke continues successfully without your business nobody will force you to work for them or to consume their product.
I've already decided to. That isn't going to do a damn thing in the grand scheme. It'll certainly help my own health, though. Really, I was just giving an example of 3rd world exploitation.
They dont massacre them they just demean them and call them radical liberals and say their nuts.
See Bill O'reilly See Sean Hannity See Ann Coulter.
More extremists on TV brings in the ratings and makes assholes like Bu$h look like centrists. When really they are the far right.
Thus the democratic party is on the right and the republicans are on the far far off the fucking cliff right. And they still call the dems socialists???
Manipulation is how it's done now. Just speak over them
I'd have to say that I agree with republicans in that I think the Democratic Party is bad for America. I disagree with republicans in that I think they're Worse!
@ramusling I have repeated this phrase over the past 10 years to countless persons, unfortunately, most individuals are either to blind or too stupid to see the obvious and blatant truth that is before them. It's good to see you are not in that group.
Actually I would argue that our government is more closely related to fascism, which in my opinion does not hold to any particular political ideal but rather shows allegiance to private corporation and a small handful of powerful elite.
If you believe in the whole left versus right, evil versus good dogma, you are already a slave to the system.
At least people under a totalitarian rule were aware of the oppression they were subject of, rouse from it, organize a resistance, something. Capitalist corporate power gives the masses something worse, the illusion of choice, through ignorance and consumption.
PsychotropicAeonian - You are not long for this world. Those that lead the world kill those that open the worlds eyes. Watch Out. My wife is Czech and while we lived in America she saw the police state in practice. Her comment - My parents warned my about the communist while I was growing up but I never saw anything like they described until I moved to America. Because I speak out we had to move. SO... My advice to you is GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. Soon every American will need an exit visa.
Soviet Russia, for instance, was blatantly authoritarian, although somewhat refined, since it claimed to be a Worker's state. I suppose that Modern Capitalism is much more refined than the 19th century system of cruel, shameless Exploitation (which still occurs in foreign countries under capitalism, although we here in America are too damn lazy to notice) which led to the creation of the Communist Manifesto.
The power we have lies in numbers if nothing else. Will we ever pull it all together is the question. Probably not, most are mesmerized by day time tv and dollar menus.
They take us to our limits economically so that we get caught up in the rat race. Chasing things we don't need.
Were you not yourself once mesmerized? If one can awaken, so can everyone. A lone spark can become a great fire, simply spread your knowledge the best way you possibly can.
Julia may have been subversive and devious ( according to the powers that destroyed her), but she was an innocent, good, decent, and beautiful woman full of heart.
She represents something in us all that's now seriously under threat.
" i've had a gutsful of the f.......g NWO videos, but not a guts full of explanations from people, so 'splain pse? your answer too brief to mean anything of any real consequence... "
All Youtube video's correct? Explain to me why no lawyer gives two shits about your public video's? Because they're poppycock. enjoy your fantasy truthslayer.
Explain to me why the NWO would allow this movie to see the light of day? How do you know Orwell was not apart of the NWO and the idea behind writting 1984was nothing more than a nwo plot? How do you not know 1984 isn't the brainwash? Think about it, Books and Movies influence though
That´s a big sentence like many in the film. I understand how but I don´t understand why .
daniliver 2 months ago
When I saw N.Koreans "cry" at the funeral of their dear leader, this movie came to mind.
The people within a brainwashed society, fail to realize that they're being enslaved by the very god who they are required to love. Govt.s without dictators have used religion to the same end. Children born into it grow up oblivious to (&often defensive of) the irrationality &ill effects. They have been given the illusion of a free society;and have accepted it on faith which they're told is a great virtue
test123ok 2 months ago
@test123ok true dat
jackieevans 3 days ago
I love the part of this movie where the alien bursts out of his chest.
jedispy 2 months ago 6
1984 is the greatest book ever.
drunkguy420 2 months ago
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argo984 2 months ago
dude we are fucked!!!
smallrossy 2 months ago
This perpetual war... what a striking similarity to what the US is doing in the Middle East right now...
DrStrangebomb1993 2 months ago 5
@DrStrangebomb1993
HURR DURR
yokohamalion 2 months ago
They need to remake this.
And it wont be remade unless people take it seriously.
Not really a blockbuster, more like a wake-up call.
Resurrected2011 3 months ago 3
@TheSpeckofdust FUCK ALL TROLLS They are the root of YouTube suffering.
FUCK ALL TROLLS they are the root of YouTube suffering.
FUCK ALL TROLLS they are the root of YouTube suffering.
FUCK INTOLERANCE. Judge not, lest YE be judged, and GTFO.
sweetprism00 3 months ago
@sweetprism00 an intolerant message about how bad intolerance is?
O_o
also desire is the root of all suffering, lrn2 buddhism
madeofhatred 2 months ago
@madeofhatred Re Buddhism: If the philosophy is over 500 years old, it's worthless.
deviljam4 2 months ago
@madeofhatred My "intolerance" is was directed toward an internet troll; a person whose mission is to spread hate and cruel messages about others for absolutely no reason. So, yeah. I guess you could call it that. And wtf, you're the one "made of hatred", not me...I very much appreciate Buddhist philosophy, but I also believe in defending the defenseless.
sweetprism00 2 months ago
@sweetprism00 There is one lesson you will learn in life. You Take the Good With the Bad. Also a man can be judged by his character or if you like words. Yours speaks realms about you. Clean up your act and if YT offends you gtfo.
manchester2000ful 1 month ago
@manchester2000ful I can only assume you MEANT to direct that toward the person named "made of hatred." If you did, then a lot of us are in agreement...if not, then I don't really know what to say?
sweetprism00 4 weeks ago
@sweetprism00 Sorry, my mistake. I don't think I would want to direct a e-mail to someone with that nickname. My apologies
manchester2000ful 4 weeks ago
@manchester2000ful No prob! Haha, at first I was really mad, and then I realized, wait... it's probably directed at the a-hole starting flame wars all over.
sweetprism00 3 weeks ago
@TheSpeckofdust piss off
SuperWes64 3 months ago
Damnit he speaks so quietly I can barely hear him.
Muskudos 4 months ago
there's no red or blue political party, that's all been a deception. red and blue are the base colors which create purple, the eternal color of royalty.
kapesun 4 months ago 3
@WhyMeMoFo stoopid communist
crazyhand97 5 months ago
stupid bitch missed the best part.
BootyBot 5 months ago
DESCRIPTION OF THE WAR AGAINST "TERROR" PERFECT.
ed11561 5 months ago 10
this is the best explanation of war!!!!! it is just a game
simongaara123 6 months ago
@simongaara123 war is just a sport a viloent bloody sport but a sport nonetheless
triplex62 5 months ago
"When fascism comes to America, it will not be in brown and black shirts. It will not be with jack-boots. It will be Nike sneakers and Smiley shirts … Germany lost the Second World War. Fascism won it. Believe me, my friend." ~ George Carlin
mymovienerd 6 months ago 2
As I read along, I thought that this book was the possible outcome had the Nazis won the war. Think about it- wanting everyone to be the same, people described as "Jewish-looking" being enemies or being murdered, people who tried to control you, big brother who happens to look like Hitler to me...
BlackOrchidRose 6 months ago
I should probably state, that I am neither republican, nor democrat. The left has improved civil RIGHTS, , but on that hand, they have also imposed regulations and such. If anything Jeffersonian republicans where the first to stand for civil librities for the common man, look back to his election when they managed to spread the power of electoral congress to not those who just owned land ,but all individuals.
LeftShoeProductions 6 months ago
Democrats politicians are about expanding the size of the federal bureaucracy, They want more regulations, more interference by the government. We need them out. We need the free market to regulate itself. We depend on our government for to many civil programs, but yet we refuse to pay it to do such acts. We are in debt, we don't have any money, and yet we keep spending? We have to cut a lot of programs, that will hurt people, but in the end it will save us. Ron Paul 2012.
LeftShoeProductions 6 months ago
@LeftShoeProductions
You neglect to mention that the democratic party is the one pushing for expanded civil liberties because it doesn't fit the story you're trying to tell.
Zamboro 6 months ago
@Zamboro Expanding civil liberties by imposing more regulations ? I'll accept that sounds overly biased. Both Parties do such things, both try to expand the power of government, and very few actually expand out liberties.
LeftShoeProductions 6 months ago
@LeftShoeProductions
No, expanding civil liberties by pushing for women's rights at the turn of the century, then blacks' rights to vote and intermarry in the 1960s, and most recently the right of gays to marry. The Left and the left ALONE has been pushing for expanded civil liberties. That hasn't been part of the Right's platform since the civil war (when the parties' positions were essentially reversed as the slavery issue caused many to desert one side for the other).
Zamboro 6 months ago
@LeftShoeProductions
Besides, what does the imposition of regulations on corporations have to do with the civil liberties of individuals? You seem to be conflating the two and it's nonsequitorial.
Zamboro 6 months ago
NOOOO the book is better
putasensura 7 months ago
As Brecht states in his poem, a MAN is a useful creature, he can fly and he can kill, but he has one defect, he can THINK!!!! IDEOLOGY always creates DIVISION which in turn leads to CAOS :-)
insanityrulestheday 7 months ago
Face it! The U.S. is over with! It's going to become VacationLand for the wealthy and many of you will be their bitches. You've done it to yourself. You continue doing it to yourself. Most everything you buy these days, the money goes to another country. You've made them strong. Fed them and they are biting you! While they brainwash you into believing they are feeding you and you should be appreciative of the scraps they allow you to have. I'm not even referring to 1984. I worked for Wal-Mart!
birddogbull 7 months ago
Democrats view George Orwell's novel "1984" as a cautionary tale.
Republicans see the novel as their blueprint.
Rumsfield and John Ashcroft followed the script to a "TEE" .. then wrote the Patriot Act.
BangSomePoo 8 months ago
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Closely listen to an Inception dvd made before the January 8th Tucson shooting, especially around, "'Do It.'" Inception.
jamestargetedindiv 8 months ago
mandatary watching for everyone everywhere :s
MaxTperson 8 months ago
the top two comments are perfect...
killuminati1871 8 months ago
SHE REPRESETS MOST OF US IN A SLEEP STATE
luttimatos 9 months ago
Reminds me of the line Donald Sutherland had in the movie "JFK": "The organizing principle of any civilization is for war. The authority of the government over its people lies in its war policy."
hairbandfan1967 9 months ago
@hairbandfan1967
No its not...war is a necserrary evil. Its all about us all coming together and overcoming our obstacles as one. Afterall more is accomplished with us all uniting as one. Then us being solo.
TillDust156 9 months ago
They did a good job with this movie.
swirlcrop 9 months ago
Welcome to reality
garrethdavis 11 months ago 2
@uzernaam Now that's funny
MrEbabylon 11 months ago
For most of human history, war has always been the same. It is the lower classes (e.g. Plebeians, Proletariat) dying to protect if not augment the riches of the ruling class (e.g. Patricians, Bourgeoisie). War is rarely justifiable and for much of its own history has been waged to expand the wealth and influence of the ruling class. True, some wars are justifiable such as World War II, but those are rare, sporadic occurrences in the queue we humans colloquially know as history.
KantianEdifice 11 months ago 3
Great movie. The girl knew what was going on before he did. The comment about women is funny. I'm completely on board, everybody else thinks I'm loco.
georgiagurl78 1 year ago 2
@georgiagurl78 Carry on, wise woman. :)
personalfavorite 10 months ago
"When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
rentintin2000 1 year ago 35
@rentintin2000
The luckiest people in that whole movie where those laying dead to the ground. Others, lesser well treated, remained alive, but were equally as dead.
KrugmanTheKing 1 month ago
@rentintin2000 Pres. Jefferson who were a man before your time. I believe in France they adhere to what you said.
manchester2000ful 1 month ago
Why does John Hurt always look 60 tears old?
360Nomad 1 year ago 4
Those of you who still don't know David Icke, please check out some of his stuff here on youtube! ;-)
Bosen6 1 year ago
@Bosen6 David Icke is crazy, but I'm just a reptile trying to suppress man right?
ballsy101 1 year ago
This just proves Winston was passionate about overthrowing The Party because he knew of life before it. Julia was young, she knew no other then life a part of The Party. He wanted a rebellion, she was rebellious.
aussie4life05 1 year ago
Great bedtime story. Leave it to the woman to fall asleep when he's talking about something really important. If an alien burst out of John's chest she probably would have slept through that, too.
kucoru16 1 year ago 20
@kucoru16 Lol, happens to me all the time! Maybe subconsciously women know they cant handle severe paradigm shifts too well, so their minds just shut off. Its ok. As long as we the men lead the way and show love and care, our women will follow.
vladolenin 1 year ago
@vladolenin :)
personalfavorite 10 months ago
@kucoru16: She wanted to stay awake and listen but she was totally and completely satisfied by the sex beast known as John Hurt!!!!! (;o)
fuzzymode 4 months ago 2
@kucoru16 another interpretation could be that she was collecting evidence against him...letting him read on while the cameras/microphones listen to his "blasphemy"
test123ok 2 months ago
In my opinion, John Hurt looked too old for this specific role...
DCH13000 1 year ago
Y'only got 2 choices really ...'Boom & Bust' or 'Social-Collectivism' (Communism)
Hellishcrusade 1 year ago
wow great moments touching!!!
sevenender 1 year ago
If your way of life REQUIRES the importation of resources, what happens when the people living on those resources don't want to give them up anymore? War. Our way of life requires war to sustain itself. We need to start thinking differently, and thus living differently, before we destroy ourselves.
xs0heavenly 1 year ago 3
oh man this is so god damn confusing. im right back to square 1
TheGrantman1000 1 year ago
what i liked most about this film was that there were no black people in it, or chinese lesbians with american accents in wheelchairs fighting trendy vampires.
HeathenPapistFilth 1 year ago 4
@HeathenPapistFilth I wanna know what movies you've been watching, clearly I'm missing out..
Skrableren 1 year ago
@HeathenPapistFilth smart comment, it also made me laugh!!
primesuspect71 1 year ago
Afghanistan and Iraq = East Asia and Eurasia?
Osama Bin Laden = Goldstein?
richis2fast4u 1 year ago
@richis2fast4u I was thinking the same thing
rockking05 1 year ago
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LennySoldier 1 year ago
@LennySoldier 99.99% don't want conflict?, what has that got to do with anything? You speak rubbish. If I kick your door down and decide to rob your fat arse what are you going to do?. What if the police are overwhelmed or you live in a failed state? Thats right dick head you are going to arm yourself and fight for your right to exist. People like you are idealists that live in a fantasy world.
Valkyriepure 1 year ago
@Valkyriepure Total headfuck when a society like the UK make people question the right to defend themselves in their own home, or smack someone on the jaw in public for insulting you. The insolence of office.
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
@LennySoldier, What are you talking about??
LennySoldier 1 year ago
" War ! huh ! What is it good for ? Absolutely nothing ! " - Edwin Starr
BoogieKnight1976 1 year ago
I remember Walter Cronkite, in the year 1984, talking about Orwells book. He felt that although Soviet Russia and Maoist China were totalitarian giants obsessed with controling the individual and stripping them of free will BUT in America and the West "we" can switch off Big Brother. He felt that "1984" hadn't come true.
Well I think he spoke too soon.
death2utubenow 1 year ago 2
@death2utubenow Yup. And looking at things, 1984 is slowly but surely, starting to breathe down everyones' necks.
sunainahussain 1 year ago 2
@sunainahussain actually people have been comparing the current world to george orwell pretty much since the novel was published. when we approached the year 1984 there were actually people who got a bit scared by that date.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@death2utubenow i think he was big brother all along
whonotmeyou 1 year ago
Politically this book was based on what Orwell observed of the Nazis (a Socialist part) and the Communists. That is why if you pay attention it refers often to "INGSOC" which is their buzzword for English Socialism. This has nothing to do with a criticism of Democracy, and it does not even fit if you tried to make it as such.
SirRupertTheAwesome 2 years ago
It is more than that. Orwell was a socialist, and he saw this as the inevitable answer to the growth of capitalism. It was his conclusion that capitalism and Soviet Communism would help collaborating in the way the three empires do in the book; and there being no difference.
This is a man who took part in the Spanish Civil War for the Communists, then wrote a book entitled Homage to Catalonia all about it.
ComradeJontastic 2 years ago
@ComradeJontastic no george orwell believed in the libertarian form of communism(anarchy) the guy took part in the spanish civil war for the anarchist and in catalonia private property was not abolished(as orthodox communist proposed) but it was collectivized between the workers, so basically in orwell's texts there is a sentiment against totalitarian state communism and capitalism and an exaltation of anarchy(libertarian communism) as the solution to our problems
DanteWhite 1 year ago
@DanteWhite well technically communism is left wing anarchism because it is supposed to be the supreme stage of governance according to marx. socialism was supposed to be the first stage, where the government took control of the means of production and was eventually supposed to wither away. the problem is, which we have seen repeatedly is making a government with absolute power give it up, which it has never done willingly
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics yes but anarchy is not marxist or lenninist in anyway bakunin used to debate marx's ideas back in the day but yeah anarchism is a type of comunism altough right wing forms of anarchism exist
DanteWhite 1 year ago
@DanteWhite yes, there are two different kinds of anarchism: collectivist (left) anarchism and right wing anarchism which basically views the government as a barrier to freedom and people should be left alone to allow the free market to function properly.
according to marx and lenin communism is basically indistinguishable from collectivist anarchism because the government is no longer needed. now personally I think in a state of nature we are less free but that's what some ppl think
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics yes but left wing anarchism rejects marx's concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat and they also reject the idea that the state would own the means of production so in left wing anarchism there would be no state institutions just private institutions that would be owned by the workers instead of a capitalist
DanteWhite 1 year ago
@DanteWhite I would say that the main difference between communists and collectivist anarchists would be that communists believe that the government needs to take over everything inlcluding the means of production in the socialist stage to prepare the country for true communism while pure anarchists would be just as opposed to that as the current system and would like to see the whole lot gone overnight
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics yep
DanteWhite 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics
actually once that Communism is eventually achieved the State would have to be dissolved, hence, your perception is incorrect.
Nowhere in their works the founding fathers of Socialism and Communism require the State to be involved in economy, save to vigilate that the means of productions are controlled by the very workers employing them.
State control of the means of production, as in the USSR or maoist china has always been an heresy toward proper Socialist/Communist doctrine
RealKull 1 year ago
@RealKull and who would force the state to be dissolved? every single time people give the government too much power it NEVER wants to give it up without a fight. the ussr and china may not have been communist but they give you a pretty good idea of what happens whenever someone claiming to be 'communist' takes power.
power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. you are never going to get people to give up absolute power to allow communism of this.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
@AussiePolitics
Actually,the left wing of Communism(& more principled version)-AnarchoCommunism--has had a generally short lived but extremely rich history(& was usually crushed by both Communist & Fascist dictators wherever it sprung up)around the globe,from the Ukraine to Spain to Manchuria to Isreal to Mexico,but all we're ever fed in US history books & the corporate press is the history of brutal state Communism because it serves the function of reinforcing capitalist foreign policy.
thirdshift47 1 year ago
@thirdshift47 YOU ARE A REAL FAGGOT SPASTIC NIGGER. FREE MARKET LIBERTARIANISM IS THE BEST WAY TO PROSPERITY AND FREEDOM.
sh4p3shifter 10 months ago
@sh4p3shifter
Well i'm a Notatarian.
Does that count?
thirdshift47 10 months ago
@sh4p3shifter Yes and of course it never fosters any kind of hatred towards homosexuals, ethnic minorities or the disabled. Oh hang on a second...
JackStaplesButler 10 months ago 2
She's a "rebel from the waist down."
Kthonix 2 years ago 10
he did
TheAufeinneues 2 years ago
That's John Hurt, he forgot more about pussy than you know
wolfdaisy 2 years ago 3
duh u dumbass. Read da book. they did it like 10 times.
WaddleBuff 2 years ago
USA "Democracy = totalitarianism
>:/
I don't hate my country, just the people who run it
flipjay11 2 years ago 41
u r totally right
WaddleBuff 2 years ago
@flipjay11 So true my friend so true but there are people like who want to change. Look at Obama he can make a difference but Republicans (ie. those assholes who only defend the rich) keep harrassing and do nothing but ssit on their coporate fed asses just waiting for their next election. Then again Democrats have their own problems too.
johnthesencond 7 months ago
@flipjay11 Whoever's in charge will always be hated based on humanity's tendency to arrange itself into hierarchies and thus divisions, castes and classes of people; those who have, those who haven't. The people at the top can't be related to, so we feel they must be replaced. And when they are... Those that follow must be replaced.
Competition = bitterness. Equality = stagnation. Thus a ceaseless cycle of the self-loathing human spirit caught between having to one or the other.
IMO. ;)
Vindrion 6 months ago
@Vindrion I AM IN CHARGE NOOB. I THOUGHTS CREATE EVERYTHING U SEE AROUND THIS WORLD. I THINK AND IT HAPPENS.
truegwbfan 6 months ago
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Vindrion 6 months ago
@flipjay11 That is ignorant. Democracy and totlitarianism are completely different, whether or not the spreading of biased ideas occurs. In George Orwell's country, change is impossible. In our country, if people stop being so dumb, then the politicians will be able to do nothing.
Thantophobia1 6 months ago
@Thantophobia1 Really bro? I had to start a search just to find your rude ass comment. Yeah i'm aware that. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one and they all stink. And I don't need yours. So thanks for wasting my time to tell me something I already know
flipjay11 6 months ago
@flipjay11 Yes, yes, very good, but I just thought of something else: what Friedrich Nietzsche called the tyranny of the majority. When majority rules, the minority is powerless, and the smallest minority is the individual. We are all individuals; we are all the smallest minority, and in the end, we have no power at all, in the face of the millions of people who vote. It's made even worse that politicians don't care about the majority anyway.
Thantophobia1 5 months ago
This is so TRUE!
Lingerfoot 2 years ago 2
war is human nature. its been goin on since we've been here and i think its natures way of population control over us.
coolgrn 2 years ago
war enables the government to have all the power they want over the people
where the hell are going the USA??? your government is going crazy over there, wake up people!
MegaCorrupted 2 years ago 4
Bread and circuses, it is all it takes to control the entire US population..... Simple as that.
ramusling 2 years ago
Corporate power is just as bad as any government. All corporations are extremely totalitarian, heirarchically structured tyrannies. Any world where corporations are the dominant power will be structured the same way. People would have to become mindless farm animal consumers to ensure they keep buying ever-lower quality crap to keep profits up as resources disappear.. Also war is extremely good for business, so expect lots and lots of that. Sound familiar?
theanonymousBB 2 years ago 4
@theanonymousBB Corporations can only exist with the state. Get rid of the govt involvement, and corporations will go bye bye.
KaptainKaka 1 year ago
Winston Smith is a nutcase conspiracy theorist! That book he's reading is all bullshit, he just wants to believe in a controlling elite because he cant face reality! There is no Thought Police! Big Brother was democratically elected! Nothing is happening that our leaders havent told us about! Etc.
theanonymousBB 2 years ago
lol, i really....REALLY hope there was sarcasim in those words.
myname174 2 years ago
War on terror.
War on drugs.
War on poverty.
War on carbon.
All unwinnable. All wars against the people initiated by their governments. All stripping us of our freedoms and increasing government power over citizens.
stratvic 2 years ago 6
The war ( war on terror) is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. A hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. In truth, the war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects ( americans) and it's purpose is not victory over eurasia (Iraq) or eastasia (afghanistan), but to keep the very structure of society intact.
chafaclon 2 years ago 3
The best prison is one in which the prisoners feel they are free. So perhaps we are blindly imprisoned while we hold onto this sense of freedom that is constantly being hand fed to us
cbbryon6 2 years ago 75
yep and i think that is called modern democracy ...
T4l0nITA 2 years ago
@cbbryon6 could you esplain that please? i got confused
Blanqueador 1 year ago
@cbbryon6 We say we are free, just how free are we to simply leave our country?
Doctor699 1 year ago
There be a third course. We could just tear the mother fucker down and rebuild it.!
Vincent0Vegas 2 years ago
lol
machinsky108 2 years ago
both Totalitarian Government Power and Capitalist Corporate Power are equal evils.
tehpevis 2 years ago
how can you say these are equal evils? How does Capitalist corporate power even remotely compare to the oppression caussed by totalitarian rule both in the past and in the present
Gualz08 2 years ago
who's to say Corporations aren't despotic, also?
tehpevis 2 years ago
Choose not to buy a corporations stuff or sell stuff to them and they die.
Government forces you to take their "services" and extracts payment at the point of a gun.
stratvic 2 years ago
Only one or a few people can't make a big difference to a major corporation. I could rally some hippies together and boycott Coca-Cola, but that's not going to change any trends in how much they produce because the statistics are so small. Supply and Demand is Bullshit. Still, That's not to say that Government mandated exploitation is any better. I am a strong believer that both Private and Government power are equal evils (Left-Anarchist)
tehpevis 2 years ago
Private power (without violence) is power you have to willingly concede, it is not taken, and it is therefore difficult to attach the evil term to it.
stratvic 2 years ago
And a fascist, genocidal dictator who wins a democratic election? Isn't that also power you have to willingly concede to, and aren't they worthy of the title "Evil" as much as a similar dictator who came to power in a coup?
tehpevis 2 years ago
Political power requires violence and you concede to that power to keep your life.
Private power you volunteer having chosen from a number of options and having reached a non violent agreement.
stratvic 2 years ago
you're forgetting elections? Every president in the history of the United States, for instance, didn't come to power through bloodshed.
tehpevis 2 years ago 2
The power the president holds over you is that he controls a government that claims a monopoly on violence over us. If you don't do what they say you get the violence including the right to take your life if you resist that power.
The failure to recognize the president his government and the authority they claim as a result of an election comes with the threat of force escalatable to include death.
i.e. defy the majorities claimed political power and you get violence.
stratvic 2 years ago
When's the last time the president's ever so ruthless secret police massacred a crowd of flag burning protesters?
tehpevis 2 years ago
The don't need to massacre a crowd they can just pass a law and deal with citizens on at a time.
More than 1% of the population is in prison. 2.4% in some form of incarceration.
stratvic 2 years ago
A perfect example of government corruption, evil, etc. Not exactly KGB or Gestapo, but many people in prison are innocent.
Still, not to say just how violent or exploitative corporations can be in 3rd world countries. For instance, when a Coca-Cola Bottling Plant in Columbia was attacked by a fascist terrorist organization that killed union members in that plant, their security did Nothing.
tehpevis 2 years ago
If you don't like Coke, don't buy, sell, or work for coke.
Maybe others will agree with you and Coke will fail through lack of support. If Coke continues successfully without your business nobody will force you to work for them or to consume their product.
stratvic 2 years ago
I've already decided to. That isn't going to do a damn thing in the grand scheme. It'll certainly help my own health, though. Really, I was just giving an example of 3rd world exploitation.
tehpevis 2 years ago
They dont massacre them they just demean them and call them radical liberals and say their nuts.
See Bill O'reilly See Sean Hannity See Ann Coulter.
More extremists on TV brings in the ratings and makes assholes like Bu$h look like centrists. When really they are the far right.
Thus the democratic party is on the right and the republicans are on the far far off the fucking cliff right. And they still call the dems socialists???
Manipulation is how it's done now. Just speak over them
8302linda 2 years ago
mmhm.
I'd have to say that I agree with republicans in that I think the Democratic Party is bad for America. I disagree with republicans in that I think they're Worse!
tehpevis 2 years ago 3
Reps or Dems the result is the same for a common man..... corporations still ruling the country and robbing the people.......
ramusling 2 years ago 78
@ramusling corporations only exist because of the state. Fuck the state!
KaptainKaka 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ramusling type ILLUMINATI on your browser backwardly and add dot com.
I think you'll be very surprised where you end up. I know I was, I actually thought It was a sick joke
w0y1z92753 10 months ago
@ramusling Yet, it is the people themselves who empower the corporations.
bretthetroll 8 months ago
@ramusling I have repeated this phrase over the past 10 years to countless persons, unfortunately, most individuals are either to blind or too stupid to see the obvious and blatant truth that is before them. It's good to see you are not in that group.
MACKATTACK1970 7 months ago
Actually I would argue that our government is more closely related to fascism, which in my opinion does not hold to any particular political ideal but rather shows allegiance to private corporation and a small handful of powerful elite.
If you believe in the whole left versus right, evil versus good dogma, you are already a slave to the system.
trehansen 2 years ago
At least people under a totalitarian rule were aware of the oppression they were subject of, rouse from it, organize a resistance, something. Capitalist corporate power gives the masses something worse, the illusion of choice, through ignorance and consumption.
PsychotropicAeonian 2 years ago 5
PsychotropicAeonian - You are not long for this world. Those that lead the world kill those that open the worlds eyes. Watch Out. My wife is Czech and while we lived in America she saw the police state in practice. Her comment - My parents warned my about the communist while I was growing up but I never saw anything like they described until I moved to America. Because I speak out we had to move. SO... My advice to you is GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN. Soon every American will need an exit visa.
pnfkwfl 2 years ago
I don't live in the U.S.
But I know what you're saying.
PsychotropicAeonian 2 years ago
Democracy gives the masses something worse, the illusion of choice, through ignorance and voting.
stratvic 2 years ago 3
If anything, capitalist corporate power is a more refined evil than totalitarian government. Read my reply to the comment by "Gualz08".
PsychotropicAeonian 2 years ago
Soviet Russia, for instance, was blatantly authoritarian, although somewhat refined, since it claimed to be a Worker's state. I suppose that Modern Capitalism is much more refined than the 19th century system of cruel, shameless Exploitation (which still occurs in foreign countries under capitalism, although we here in America are too damn lazy to notice) which led to the creation of the Communist Manifesto.
tehpevis 2 years ago
The power we have lies in numbers if nothing else. Will we ever pull it all together is the question. Probably not, most are mesmerized by day time tv and dollar menus.
They take us to our limits economically so that we get caught up in the rat race. Chasing things we don't need.
Hitting rock bottom is freedom from the machine.
Vincent0Vegas 2 years ago 3
Were you not yourself once mesmerized? If one can awaken, so can everyone. A lone spark can become a great fire, simply spread your knowledge the best way you possibly can.
pixelfart 2 years ago
No. I have never been mesmerized by the machine. It has always been grotesquely obvious to me. I suppose that I am lucky in that way.
Vincent0Vegas 2 years ago
Well, either way, it's up to you. Love it or fix it.
pixelfart 2 years ago
The government IS accountable. To us. But it is up to us to get off our asses and enforce this.
Vincent0Vegas 2 years ago
"There are two wolves that are constantly fighting inside every man...one represents hope and love,.. the other represents tyranny and hate.."
"So which one wins?..."
"The one you feed."
Vincent0Vegas 2 years ago
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camimuller8 2 years ago
My head.
Vincent0Vegas 2 years ago
Julia may have been subversive and devious ( according to the powers that destroyed her), but she was an innocent, good, decent, and beautiful woman full of heart.
She represents something in us all that's now seriously under threat.
Kelly14UK 2 years ago
Agreed.
Cops, politicians, military, bankers and the like, get that big house and social prestige because of things people get up to.
As long as people get up to things, cops, politicians, military, bankers and the like will always have that social prestige and big house.
It's all bullshit.
They have taken full advantage of technology.
Kelly14UK 2 years ago
Sounds familiar.
waydeewaydee 3 years ago
Read the book 3 years ago, it put the wind right up me.
manweller1 3 years ago
" i've had a gutsful of the f.......g NWO videos, but not a guts full of explanations from people, so 'splain pse? your answer too brief to mean anything of any real consequence... "
All Youtube video's correct? Explain to me why no lawyer gives two shits about your public video's? Because they're poppycock. enjoy your fantasy truthslayer.
lashkaretoiba 3 years ago
Explain to me why the NWO would allow this movie to see the light of day? How do you know Orwell was not apart of the NWO and the idea behind writting 1984was nothing more than a nwo plot? How do you not know 1984 isn't the brainwash? Think about it, Books and Movies influence though