Islamic Radicals Debate: Asra Nomani (4 of 15)

[Oddhermit]

I always find it kind of amusing that all the IQ2 debates and similar videos seem to get downvoted by Muslims. Especially the debates in which both sides of the argument are represented. Disturbing how knee-jerk their defense of Islam is.

[amirinjind]

How ignorent the people r even now?????????

[muhammed4jesus]

Asra Nomani this is for you

it seems u r impressed frm christians a lot , so i will show u " radical Christianity" --- Gods Punishment in the Bible: Pregnant Women will be ripped open!------

Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation) - The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords."

[muhammed4jesus]

Asra Nomani this is for you

it seems u r impressed frm christians a lot , so i will show u " radical Christianity" --- Gods Punishment in the Bible: Pregnant Women will be ripped open!------

Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation) - The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords."

[muhammed4jesus]

Asra Nomani this is for you

radical ------ pertaining to the root

islam ------- submission to the will of God

radical islam --------- submission to the will of God till the roots

[iffi0014]

Arsa nomani you sucks..

[iffi0014]

islam is one . . no moderate , no radical ..

[ByChoiceMuslim]

Muslims aren't allowed to say "peace be upon you" to non Muslims? Asra you need to study Islam.

[TurboFuss1]

@ByChoiceMuslim That is true. I've had many Saudis tell me you can't say it to non-Muslims. Saudis and Wahhabism are destroying Islam with their bizarre radical interpretation which justifies violence against everyone, other Muslims included!

[iffi0014]

@ByChoiceMuslim bro she knows nothing.. she is just brainwashed !

[sutonchef]

@iffi0014 SHE IS CORRECT FOR SURE

[muhammed4jesus]

@ByChoiceMuslim Asra Nomani this is for you

it seems u r impressed frm christians a lot , so i will show u " radical Christianity" --- Gods Punishment in the Bible: Pregnant Women will be ripped open!------

Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation) - The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords."

[sutonchef]

@muhammed4jesus DONT TRY TO COVER RADICAL ISLAMS CRIMES WITH SOMEONE ELSES RELIGIOUS ERRORS.  ISLAMIC RADICALS ARE ON A WAR FOOTING WHICH THE WEST IS GOING TO STOP AT THE INVITATION OF MUSLIM NATIONS WHO ARE AGAINST RADICAL ISLAMS. SIX MILLION MUSLIMS CONVERT TO OTHER RELIGIONS EVERY YEAR>>>>>>>>AL JAZEERA IS WITNESS

[NerdSeekingLulz]

Religion is dying. "Moderate interpretation" just means using secular morality and forcing religion texts to conform to it. Why listen to "love your neighbor," but not stone children who disobey their parents? (In the New Testament, by the way).

[spartantt]

all i could say is that we should pray for this sister

its sooo sooo soo sooo simplee

just follow the quran and sunnah

its not that hardd

interpreting the quranic verses tit by tat and shortning it and mis interpreting the quran is only going to attract more unwanted attention

just follow the quran and sunnah please

and please pray for her

may allah guide her and all of us

jazaka allah khair

[karlsmith00]

@spartantt you don't need to pray for her. she's not misinterpreting anything.

you just pull your head out of your ass.

[iMaDeMoN2012]

I'm in love with this women

[WorldGlobal2010]

sell out and munafiq be quiet

[CobinRain]

I would have thought that this proposition is so obvious that there is no debate to be had. A big question to this intelligent an charming woman is: why do you not just walk away from this farrago of barbarous superstition. Allah? Honey, there is no one there...and if there were, what do you thinks are the odds, really, on a creator of the universe dictating his final communication to mankind to an illiterate camel trader with a penchant for little girls. I mean, really. What are the odds?

[dosenboden]

The world has found a new enemy to blame everything for, they have now picked another one to pick on, BUT BEHOLD this time the world has picked the WRONG one, they will never beat the muslims, because we r somehting they have never experienced before. God protects his believers. ALLAHU AKBAR

[AsadKhanCR]

i have never heard that Muslims cannot say Assalaam-u-Alaikum to non-muslims. Am I deaf?

[fernandatralala]

I wish there was no religion. I wish the religion of all people at this planet were the nature. "Religion is the opiate of the people"... I agree... and I'm not communist as Karl Marx.

[you2ubeist]

(Conclusion :-

1. Muslim should welcome a believer by saying assalamu alykum (May Allah's peace be upon you )

2.Muslim should welcome a non believer by saying salam ( peace for you )

[you2ubeist]

Regarding wishing assalamualykum to non beleivers

, it is said that you should welcome non muslims by wishing salam instead of assalamu alykum .

both means peace be up on you , but assalamu alykum one means Allah's may bless you with peace , so for non muslims as they not believed in Allah and that may not be welcomed by a non muslims so that you can respect their beliefs also .

[AsadKhanCR]

@you2ubeist Allah is just Arabic for God. Please open your minds.We are all creations of one and the only God. 

[you2ubeist]

@AsadKhanCR

NO , NO NOt at all , DO YOU REMEMBER THE PROBLEMS Happened WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE GIVEN THE PERMISSION TO USE THE WORD ALLAH

i think there is lot of gods , allah is just one of them , creation of human mind.

[Zeno1999]

@AsadKhanCR : I totally agree with you; so its not a bad idea to leave an ideology that is polluted by radical Islamists and take any of 2999 other faiths on this planet.

Once all mosques are empty, these would make great free range chicken farms- organic of course for the sake of our environment - inshallah !

[you2ubeist]

regarding wishing assalamu alykum to non beleivers in islam ,( what i have learned so far ) it is said that each muslim should welcome strangers and familier people with Salam , i.e assalamualykum . Prophet said that that will spread peace and understanding among people . (you can search in Haddiths )

[tabsheen1]

This woman obviously has no idea about Islam. I am a muslim woman, and Islam is a very beautiful way of life. She talks just like a non-believer. She is a waste of time.

[neoarcadezr]

reading all these comments talking down on this woman are blind to what really goes on in the world they probably live in America they don't know the pain of Muslims suffering under the harsh rule of Islam

[mdr22315]

The Quran does not allow "moderate" Muslims. Abrogation nullifies previous peaceful verses found in the Quran. The last verses and commands that Mohammad gave were to kill anyone who is not Muslim. You can not be a Muslim and believe what she is saying if you follow the teachings of Mohammad and the Quran. Taqiyya is often practiced on the West because of their ignorance of the Quran and the belief system it upholds. I suggest everyone look this up before believing this woman.

[OzCrusader007]

"I fight for a progressive intrpretation of our faith"...no...she is fighting for a NON Islamic interpretation. I'm Christian and I see this stand out so clearly. The Radicals ARE the true Muslims... if you believe the Quran that is. (I.E..'THEY')

[OzCrusader007]

Nomanis riveting, cogent, and inspiring account urges the moderate majority in all faiths to rescue their traditions from those who twist religion into a weapon of mass oppression and terror. Booklist

I have to disagree with her.. those supposedly 'twisting' Islam are in fact TRUE to it... and that's the scary part for western secularists who just don't "get" true Islam.

[ohwahwah]

this kind of moslim earned money from west by abusin islam.

[iloveeagles25]

Fuck you Asra Nomani you are mother fucker bitch. you need a big dick in your pussy from Nigeria and you need another Big Dick in your ASS from Saudi And the last Dick you need is in your dirty mouth I will Give you good fuck in your mouth. I hope that take out your hate about muslims from your head till your pussy.

[karlsmith00]

you know what, you crazy stupid muslims make my job so easy. and you make asra's job so easy.

thanks for proving her right with your crazy talk. too bad you're too stupid to even see what you're doing.

keep it up, you schizo muslim. everyone sees how fucked up you muslims are. the only good thing about it is that you're not in the US living off my tax dollars. we need to ship all of you animals out.

keep it coming, idiot. show the world how backwards muslims are.

[iloveeagles25]

@karlsmith00 you are Motherucker LOL I am not muslim I am Ismali. I think This Asra nomani is fucking Idiot. she is barking like dog and you are more mother fucker LOL. get my dick inside your ass.

[karlsmith00]

i know what you are, you're a dumb ass waste of skin.

go cut off your dick. then shove it up your dad's ass. then blow yourself up.

and stop typing LOL, you fucking idiot. people like you should be beheaded. i wish muhammad was still around to do it.

[F33bs]

I think you'll find that this woman wouldn't go near your nasty, illiterate ass to save her life, you limp-dick.

The worst part about Islam and religion is that it makes abject idiots and morons like you boisterous enough to think that your mad, uneducated ravings are anything but scurrilous, delinquent garbage unworthy of any serious attention whatsoever.

You materialize her point perfectly, and you'd see it if you weren't such trash.

[VarykGerai]

you need a big pole in your ass to shut up. Shes a wooman to have more guts to accept things as wrong that are wrong, unlike you.

[iloveeagles25]

@VarykGerai LOL I know you Idiot will support her since she speak for Chrsitnan and jewish. So I don't mind About your Replay. Plus She give birth to Basterd kid( born out of wedluck) Islam Nevcer allow that. Plus she went to Church with few other students and became imam and pray in church to mixed men and women. Which is never allow in islam. Why you tthink She will speak for Isalm?? or any thing that is true about islam. She is lier and She will do every thing to get $ from USA

[VarykGerai]

right, and if you still dont get it the dabe is exactly because of the pricks like you.

[iloveeagles25]

@VarykGerai LOL I know about the debate ok . the fucking asshole like you just want to listen like what she is barking. If I am radical then Why I have here some Christain friends HUH. there is no Redical things unless Pussy like Asra nomani come and speak like Pussy and explain she is good muslim and islam is really what she say. The true is that I am not good muslim and she is bad muslim. but The point is Islam is good. She does not represent islam plus me either. that is the fact

[childfreeman]

@iloveeagles25

Having jewish friends proves nothing, and nobody said every muslim is a terrorist, their saying, that the majority of terrorism is comitted by muslims. Get a clue

[Bilalkahmad]

@iloveeagles25 Love them be kind to them.

Praise be to Allah the lord of the lord, the king of the kings.

Human are nothing they will never harm Islam God promised will keep it and will expand it. Till all sins vanishes from earth.

Peace to all, those who don't hate Islam.

[Zeno1999]

@iloveeagles25 : She is the real women; women like her have guts and courage to heal this planet. Real women says the truth the way it is(offends radical Muslims,lol).

If all women stop copulating with the criminal men, the crime on this planet would end. I've seen black women with children from many different boy friends who are in prison (costing tax payers $4000 per month); these kids prefer daddy's career to make them proud so the crime world keeps growing. Same going on with Islamic world.

[Sadeek1962]

LOOL How come this Fucking bitch Knows and care islam when she give birth to Bastard ( son with out marriage))

Radical Islam  Why she do not Explain the Rape Rate and Divoced Love marriages In USA. Fuck you bloody bitch.

[karlsmith00]

wow, a muslim being disrespectful to a woman! how strange.

you really represent islam well. keep it up, and thanks for showing the world that islam is backwards and misogynistic.

rape and divorce is actually higher in islam. that's why muslims flock to the west. if it was terrible, you idiots wouldn't come here.

so stay in pakistan, i hope you aren't killed by a car bomb.

[Sadeek1962]

Asra nomani is Not a muslim she is just brought up to act that she is muslim.

Islam is not like she think. If you are muslim and Pray 5 time obey all islamic way and just Belive that Quran is not holy book. you are not muslim. Or If you belive that Prophet muhammad ( swa ) is not the last prophet then you are not muslim. She Discriment the basic of islam by Praying as Imam in Church. And She got a very Dirty backround she can not claim to be muslim may be she can claim to be bad mslim

[karlsmith00]

asra nomani is trying to save islam from stupid pigs like you.

i don't even know why she's trying. one day she'll wake up and leave, and islam will have one more person telling the truth about it.

i know angry little muslims like you just can't take strong women. it really gets under your skin. well get used to it sweetie.

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 Are you mently ill by Saying This bitch is Saving islam. LOL you need to have a head to understand what she is barking. like bitch. Islam is not what she says better ask some one who knows about islam Not some one who get funded to Clean up her ass and became some one to pray in Church as imam. and claim she Is better muslim then every other.  she is sick Pussy.

[karlsmith00]

no, you're the stupid bitch you lying child rapist following muslim.

you're a stupid prick. you have no common sense, like a typical male. add the fact that you're a muslim, and that means you're an idiotic dumb prick muslim bitch.

go blow your underwear up, you dumb terrorist.

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 Hitler was the best Christain he Follow bible . Terrorists mean Some one who kill Innocent LOL American are not Innocent they must be killed because they are Kaffer. Hitler Killed 5 and half million Jewish And he killed millions of Christains. Why because Hitler Was told by Bible that he is massiah. See john 1.1 LOL hahah Fucky you dirty Kaffer

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 you Idiot should Remember those muslims who are in USA or West are the muslims born there they did not went to USA or may be very few Percent went to USA or UK to live or work. The same way we muslims countries got alot of Christains in Kuwait Qatar Bahrain Malaysia Brounai. Who living better life then In USA. you are dude Idiot.

[karlsmith00]

no idiot. there are millions of muslim immigrants in the US, UK, europe, and australia who move there because their countries are shit.

muslim countries don't get a lot of christians. the only ones that go there go to work in the oil industry because arabs aren't smart enough to do it.

and they used to be in dubai before it collapsed.

life isn't better in islam. muslims come to the west to live off our welfare and to use western freedoms.

so shut up and stop lying.

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 HAHAH Christain Come to work in oil. 1 million Christain working in KSA. And more then 2 mliion Christains and hindu are in Other gulf countries for work.. Arabs are smart then you , But arabs trying to give jobs to other so they can feedup there family.. USA , UK and other countries in West do not give Work visa to Any asian or Middle lest countries , We go to study and do business in west like Muslims do in Middle east.. Dude Christain are lier to Say juses is GOD

[karlsmith00]

you can barely write in complete sentences. well, when your spiritual example raped kids, what should i expect from a dumb muslim bitch like you?

arabs are dumb and lazy. the only americans in islam are there to work in oil. when that runs out, ARABS WILL GO BACK TO LIVING IN TENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO STUPID TO WORK HARD.

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 The American Culture is well known in world for having babies with mothers and sister and How will you Justifiy that In Churches The preaches ( fathers ) In normal words dick heads LO L Rape boys. And they claim to be the best christains. Arabs are rich every arab does not have oil in home. you Pussy . saudi arabia have 260 billion barral oil and about 200 billion more will discover in KSA, Iraq , Iran, Kuwait, All swimming in oil. West need oil more then Arab need money, LOL

[karlsmith00]

what happened to you, you stupid muslim? are your parents related? is that why you're so stupid and delusional?

this is why the entire world hates muslims. this is why no one wants to let you on planes. you have no logic, you can't argue, and you're retarded.

forget it. this is like trying to speak with a dog. you're so low, you can barely understand.

go blow yourself up and do the world a favor. one less stupid muslim to worry about.

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 Entier world LOL Are you Dreaming asra Pussy. USA is not all world. OK LOL  North Korea Threat to all world LOL Fucking Ideas you get from Bible. That if American govt dont like some one that mean no one like them. Wakup Stupid. Talking to you is like Talking to Wall That's why I said you need to have head to Talk. but you got head full of hate. Ok Fuck your all Kaffer.American are Furstred because of China going to new power and muslims investment goes to china.

[karlsmith00]

ugh learn how to write, you stupid muslim.

maybe if you idiots spent less time making car bombs and spent more time studying language, you wouldn't be such disgusting animals.

especially muslim males. the whole world thinks you're pigs because of how you act. completely disgraceful. your father should be beheaded for fathering such a worthless piece of trash like you.

[Sadeek1962]

@karlsmith00 LOL I speach , Hindi, Punjabi, Pushto, Spainish, English, arabic, And malay. We are smart then you mother fucker. Now I know why Some muslims Says that the kaffer must be Killed. I agree to them If they want to kill pigs like you. Plus your Father must be so much Regrat for not using Condeom While Fucking your mother pussy. A Good Christain is a dead Christain.

[karlsmith00]

GO BLOW YOURSELF UP AND KILL OTHER MUSLIMS WITH YOURSELF, YOU DUMB MUSLIM BITCH.

don't worry about my parents. they aren't first cousins like your dumb parents. you should go suck your dad's cock, that way he'll be happy before you blow him up with yourself, you inbred child rapist follower.

you know why "some" muslims say we should be killed? you stupid muslims want to kill everything, including yourselves. go do it.

now shut up. i'm tired of trying to teach you, dumb bitch.

[iloveeagles25]

@karlsmith00 I am worried for you because you are Mother fucker and basterds. you people have no religion The True Christain religion was good but it is past the new Christain religion you mother fuckers are following is Created by Hitler. Love Hitler and Death to Christains, Fuck you mothter fucker. People hate pigs like you becuase of your dirty mind and dirty Religion. Fuck you.

[acerb45666555]

pressure from militants and cronies? true. Iraqs only metal band, (Acrassicauda), had to flee to safer Turkey! theyre rehearsal space in Baghdad got bombed.

[Gabriel1o1]

it's really funny throughout her whole speech there is no significant argument demonstrating that Islam is dominated by radicals she just try to keep talking and trow from time to time stories She Heard Somewhere. I am not dismissing the struggles she went through, whatever they may be, is irrelevant but she just can't generalize her experience

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

I know alot about Islam and the Bible...Tell my WHY your MAHDI to come will FORCE the world to follow ISLAM? Do you call that PEACE? I know the Koran teaches IT....The Bible also says the Antichrist will force the world to follow HIM. The Bible says teh Antichrist does not honor womens rights. the Bible says the Antichrist seeks to change the calendar and laws. It says HE will Behead many for the witness of Jesus Christ. ............continued bellow...........

[maxbumble]

i am an apostate and a kafir...born muslim and all...and even though i agree with all her conclusions i think asra nomani is the most ill-informed annoying piece of crap to walk the planet. it's people like her that make moderates question moderation.

[ronaldog35]

She is not aware that in surah mumtahina Islam forbids transgressing non muslims without justification. She is just tryna reach fame and make money off shaitan. May allah guide her because she is talkin about something she has no idea about. That is also the same with these suicide bombers, Abusive men, taliban regime and ohter extremists. She is doing the same as them but she is on the other side. She is taking certain parts of islam and interpreting it according to her arrogant desires.

[NoneBeforeNoneAfter]

I KNOW WHO HE IS HE IS THE MAHDI of ISLAM and is the Antichrist spoken of Isaiah 14 "THE MAN" then Ezekiel 28 "Prince of TYRE" then Daniel 11 "Egypt follows him in submission" and He Calls himself a GOD "ALLAH" then to Revelations where he seeks to rule the World. Its all there black and white. Beheading and torture "They wiill seek death but will not find it" How can the Late convert Christan find death if they are strapped to the Islamic torture table?

[sweetzzzz90]

*unacceptable* ( I mean)

[sweetzzzz90]

But, the moderates NEED to take a stand. Everyone is afraid. Not only does the West play a significant role in screwing up our communities but the mainstream media for portraying ALL Muslims as radicals. It's the West( US & Britain) who loves to advantage of our shortcomings.

But it is *we* who have to change. Change doesn't start by reforming a country. Change starts at home...within ourselves.

[sweetzzzz90]

I like when she said, "It's acceptable when we have tradition become religion." That is exactly the point I make when topics such as, "Why can't women drive in Saudi Arabia?", come up.

The problem is that power is in the hands of radicals(minority) while the moderates(majority) fear raising their voices.

No, I think we cannot deny that there IS subjugation of women in our countries. There is corruption in our governments.

[Albphilosopher]

Long live Asra Nomani

[SilverSurferTT36]

Thia women is not a muslim but a hippocrate...

[b4badar]

i do agree

[PersianPaladin]

Its not "the media" sadly.

The reality in many Muslim countries is clear; they are oppressive towards women. Its all patriarchal and cultural. And it has to end.

[Kamal767]

I'm not at all going to deny this, but keep in mind you are viewing the situation from a certain perspective, using certain variables to determine what is "oppressive" and what is not.

[lieberat]

I think she's standing up for something which she Lacks faith in and sad to say she does not have much knowledge of.

She speaks of that have been sold to ALL through the Media.

[TriumphantEntry]

All religions are dominated by radicals, they are usually called moderates. The moderates suppose that violence itself is the mark of a radical. Of course anyone who is certain that a divine being wrote their book is a radical.

[zkdevil]

this is crap....Islam is not dominated by radicals....News and politics only emphasis on those who are radical and not the rest who are not

[IrishPharaoh2008]

This woman chats so much crap, some places can be harsh yes BUT shes using the worst case possible, when they are trying to talk about Islam as a WHOLE. She doesnt even know what shes talking about, shes even added a sob story about her grandmother agreeing that islam is being taken over by radicals...omg why didnt her grandmother say before and we could of ended this!! (sarcasm) WHO THE HELL IS HER GRANDMOTHER TO US LOL my father doesnt think so does that mean her grandmother is wrong? how dumb

[cba712]

BrownSugar : Was the baby outside wedlock? And now she's representing "Islam".

[aliakbaraidid]

The reason why mosques are not maintained by the socalled "reformists" such as the likes of Asra Nomani is that the Prophet (pbuh) said it himself (pbuh) that: the hardest prayers for the hypocrites is Fajr (Dawn) prayer and the Isya prayer. So how can we expect then to maintain the mosques if they can't maintain these two prayers for themselves?

[kkzs]

this women is soo crazy, mosques dont have the space for women because they dont have the funding to make a section for them in most cases and in bigger mosques they do, obviously men visit the mosque exponentially more than women so they get more space, plus she is a charlatan, she only become prominent post 9/11

[BrownSugar4You]

asra nomani is a radical who gave birth to a bastard baby. She is an outcaste in the muslim community.

[Captainbang1]

Its very radicall to you not to (Allah) Al amduli lai

[nadialejandra]

having a room for women and another for men in a mosque is not being radical! her whole speach makes no sense.Whahabism is something else, u can not compare separation of gender with whahabism! she must also think that wearing the scarf is extremist as well...those muslims dont represent the practising muslim for sure. This debate is all biased.

[runkaballe]

In the 80th that was called APARTHEID dividing people after race and this is after gender, same evil but a different name.

People call Muslims "sand niggers" so you wouldnt have problem that sand niggers wasn´t allowed in stores, public bathrooms, restaurants, driving?

Or that all sand niggers had to cover there ugly faces to keep people from beating them?

What is the fcuking diffrence???????

I´m not a racist I just wanted to make a point, dividing people is in a way "racism".

[cba712]

What if you're real black and Muslim at the same? Expand your horizon and read some books, you may learn something.

[runkaballe]

What?

Isn´t the Quran "perfetct" that it contains all the information Muslims need, that it has all the answer of all the qusions in the universe??

So reading books is in a way blasphemy?

Dividing people after gender is no diffrence from dividing people after race.

So I thing we in the west should make sure that muslims are not allowed to use public bathrooms or eat in non muslim restaurants before they stop dividing people after gender.

[IrishPharaoh2008]

Stop making smart comments,yes it is a perfect book IMO and it does answer all questions NEEDED to know, Your just the type of person who takes things out of context, like the person on youtube who made a video of Dr Zakir Niak saying "every muslim should be a terrorist" and took all his words and reassembled them to say something different. Are you religious? if so what religion do u follow? and bout the women not being treated equally..yes some places are harsh but in most it IS for the best

[runkaballe]

I´m a strong believer in Pastafari and that there is a beer volcano.

How is it out of context either it has all the answers or it dosent.

So you wouldn´t have any problem if we non muslim stopped serving muslims and refused to let them in to our shops etc and if they can´t live in a muslim owned house they have to live on the streets.

How is not letting women drive for the best or stoning women to death if they have bin raped?? WTF are you a monster, the reincarnation of Hitler?

[IrishPharaoh2008]

lol u need to chill out, where have i said "a woman should be stoned if they have been raped" see, AGAIN u take things out of context, bcos im a muslim u think i agree with it? i said some things are harsh, and u do take things out of context YES it has the answers to everything but it isnt going to specificly answer every question u ever think of, you read it and inturpate it urself, and if u need help you look to the imams, ur going by the rule of a country (saudi arabia) and not the Quran

[IrishPharaoh2008]

I cant remember exactly but yes it says you should stone someone if they commit adultery, BUT that is with sufficient evidence, you cant just say "a woman needs 5 witnesses in order to accuse a man of rape" i disagree with this, but u need to realize THIS IS SAUDIS LAW, not even Muslims law or every Muslims country's law. So stop judging all as a whole before you try to accuse them of something.

[Libintia]

That's my problem with this debate, too, Hashim. That and the idea that a government's views can be claimed as public opinion. Wow. Go logic.

The whole fucking affirmative side ignores the political reality. Not that the debate wasn't geared towards an affirmative victory, but the lack of moderation revolts me. No wonder Aslan was so fucking angry.

[HashimC]

So we can conclude that Saudi Arabia is the biggest problem of Islam since they are using their petrodollars to export Wahabbism to other Islamio nations. The major problem I have with this is that the United States is the major ally of Saudi Arabia. This needs to stop. The sooner the US realizes that the Saudis are the real terrorists, the sooner the world will be free from those Saudi terrorists that have hijacked islam.

[merhaba234]

you both have and don't have a point. first of all, it's not just the US that buys oil from SA, if US doesn't buy, someone else will. and the reality right now is that the world is dependent on oil. it is an economic need that does not justify what saudis do with the money. that still is to be condemned and judged.

[Katharsis2006]

The point that is being missed here is... Does that mean that Islam is DOMINATED by radicals?

[charlesvan13]

@HashimC

The Saudi government is anti-terror. It has been refered to as a moderate state. But I think that just refers to foreign affairs Their government doesn't make the insane provocations that Iran does.

Petroleum is a commodity so it doesn't really matter who actually buys it. The US could import from Venesuala and Canada. And China could buy Saudi oil. And they would have just as much petro money.