Until ford or chevy puts a million mile diesel in there trucks I won't buy them for that price cause the fuckin engines suck nuts even the 7.3 is not shit in longevity compared to the 12 valve cummins so fuck your ford
cummins has been around for a while so lots of parts for it, and its a good engine but dmax just got here and already dominates every type of diesel motorsport! that tells you something about the engine!
That was a good pull between cummins and duramax. not dodge and gm. Lets see either one stand on their own two feet and design their own engine like ford. Or here is a bigger challange try not to go bankrupt again.
You are correct about the powerstroke being built by navistar up until 2011. I figured anyone leaving comments on this forum would now that Ford has ended their contract with navistar. They are now building and designing the new powerstroke in house. Ford built ford engineered and ford designed all in house. I might add the first company to do this. As far as the duramax goes chevy couldn't build a good diesel remember the 6.2 and 6.5.
Then all of sudden the japaneses get involved (call it a joint venture if you will) and all of a sudden you have one hell of a diesel. Any company even government motors can take a good base and make a few tweaks here and there and make it better. So depending what year we are talking about the powerstroke is built by navistar. For those of you who dont know this is no longer the case. ford hasnt built their own diesel since the 6.9 and that was a damn good diesel. Also
Also at least ford didnt run across seas when they had trouble with navistar once again not a ford built powerstroke. Dodge just got 53% of their shares bought by Fiat correct. Also I think the cummins is the best as of now but now way in hell is it worth owning the piece of shit around it. If you would like i could tell you the years that the powerstoke was built by navistar just let me know. Pretty sad when ford 6.0 and 6.4 were terds and still #1 selling whats that saying about the others.
Well Look what was said Chevy has the Edge and the dodge was said to have more just form the intro so take it form there not fair match, lol put that dodge against my 05 llL I will crush him (EFI life,m Edge Juice, 100 over injectors, ARP head studs, Built trans, Cold air EGR Delete, twin CP3's, and some others that u can guess from here on lol.
@duramax06703 Wow... you must be in what, 2nd grade?... tsk tsk tsk tsk... that's ok... keep dreaming kiddo... maybe Daddy will let you steer his truck in the driveway sometime.... lol
@willcp18 Lol.. har har.. that's about the best I ever heard. I live in the wild northwest of MT and Most of the trucks around here are Dodges. When I lived in NY every wanna be big guy from the city would show up at my sales lot in a big Chevy or Ford diesel. Most of those trucks never even saw a gravel road much less off roading. I know Chevy and Ford are both ok and have their place but you must be a city slicker to think that Dodges are pretty boy trucks... LMHO
@ramdslpwr Your right they are not pretty at all but there off road capability in comparison with gm is complete shit. Thier loadhauling compared to chevy is complete shit. So what we can conclude from this information is anyone stupid enough to spend hard their hard earned cash might be a country bumbkin dumb fuck who knows no better. Its ok bumkin we wont judge you.
@willcp18 Chevy/GMC is as "pretty boy" as it gets. Give it even the slightest workout, and that little front end cries "Oh no, Justin, don't!" right before it snaps.
@raremountainbear never had that kind of trouble with my dads sierra or my blazer. Have you ever noticed in the dodge diesel commercials they never dis on chevy? they only dis of ford because ford is fail. Don't get me wrong the cummins is a GREAT engine but so is a duramax. I just choose duramax because Gm is what I was raised around and I really do not like the dodge body style.
@1962Galaxie514ciMPFI yeah because a good diesel isn't meant to win a pull against another truck, they are meant to pull heavy loads. so as soon as a ford wins the AMCI hd testing then give me a call dumb fuck
@1962Galaxie514ciMPFI a good diesel? so you just agreed with me pulling my dads dodge? right? we dont put thousand's of dollar into out truck's to go fast or to go pulling like the rest of these loser's.. it matter's on how you build the vehicle to win such an event. something you loser's dont know. AMCI? buhahaha dont you know 80% of the media is biased toward's ford even motortrend? what world are you living in kid? the 7.3 6.0 6.4 arent ford product's the 6.7is. cummins isnt dodge either
7.3 6.0 and 6.4 are international not ford. the only 2 diesel's that are made by 2 companys are the 6.7 PS and the GM duramax diesel. kid your just like the rest of the ford hating loser with no life on here your nothing to me at all. my 7.3 will always pull more load's with more weight then my dads cummins period. eat that you fuckin poonjab troll oh yeah the 7.3 diesel powerstroke and idi will always remain the best diesel for along long long time. fuck you and cummins
diesel engines are not ment to be v'd inline is the only way to go....keep it cummins! just get it out of a dodge and put it in a chevy 3500 siverado, with 6 speed 1000 allison trans. you got it made.
@AverageJoeTV1 500 horses out of a 6.5 IDI, are you sure about that. You would have to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get that kind of power of those engines. Decent engines all around, especially if you want fuel economy, but power.... not even close my friend.
@SleipnirEADG Probably a souped up 454 gasser.... in which case the last thing he would see of me in a bumper to bumper hookup would be his entire truck rearend dragging down the road behind mine.... lol
@AverageJoeTV1 you have to be joking, a stock 4x4, 24 valve turbo cummins diesel would drag your lt1 around like a ragdoll. do you know anything about gas or diesel engines? and its not just whats under the hood, many things come in to factor...
@jamesmetcalf21 im sorry for that, my friend was on my account and he was being a dumbass. sorry for wasting your time dude. i agree with you. cummins is bad ass.
so here is the deal duramax is good for there allison trannys but dodge has the best motor but has too much power for there trannys. my causins friend replaced his tranny 6 times but he has his motor juiced up. and plus ford just sucks found on road dead!
@kdc2598 Cummins are known for the most idiotic owners. Seriously, who in their right mind would replace the transmission 6 times and still not realize that the cummins is not only too powerful for the transmission but the transmission is too weak for anything. Plus dodge vehicles (mainly the ram) are some of the shittiest vehicles in america. Its like a candy bar, the good is on the inside but the outside (the wrapper) is just trash that should be thrown away.
@ithinkimgonnaskeet11 i didnt say that cummins was good i just said that they r way to powerful for the stock trannys. and the kid that replaced it 6 times works at cummins so he does it himself
@fastvwg60 But because im a military man and $ is something that i dont see much of, i have to choose a truck that is all around the best stock. I FEEL, that the duramax allison combo has what i need in reliibility and and over all performance (i own an 04.5) something i can mod slowly and dont have to worry about throwing a transmission into. If i ever get the $ and time, i will deffinately get a 06 or 07 5.9 cummins for my project truck
@fastvwg60 A Cummins 5.9 24 valve eng (i like the 5.9 it has proven it is near perfect vs the 6.7 i feel is too new to completely trust) in a Chevy bod/interior/ suspension with a Ford frame/axel/drive shaft and a freightliners AMT3 8 speed trans. I feel that would be the perfect diesel truck. I think that chevy has the most comfortible interior, and i like the body style as well,
@MotoX179 dude, anyone can piss a fountain of parts. and at the end of the day its just a pissing match. when i talk about a truck i am talking about a straight out of the box product. and if you read what i have said in past post you'll see that yes i like the cummins but beyond that i am a chevy and duramax fan
@fastvwg60 ok now you are cooling down and finally realizing im just give a honest no confrtaional oppinion. and you right the 6.2 sucked, the 6.6 duramax is great IMO as for the 47RE being great built yeah your right, but im not talking about mod'd truck, im talking straight out of the box. anyone can have a great truck if they put money into it, and if $ was no object i would totally have a (continued)
@fastvwg60 JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE, but the 2011 cummins is only rated to pul 18900 pounds, the 2011 duramax is rated at 21700 and the 2011 powerstroke is rated at 22100. yeah not everyone who buys a diesel is going to be pulling the max tow rateing all day everyday but when your competition is pulling over one ton more than you, it is kind of sad
@cbsmoraine Again you think that I'am a Chevy hater, which I'am not. I just hate people that talk all kinds of shit about Dodge. I used to buy nothing but Chevys at one point, but when I drove the first Dodge Cummins I was convinced that it was all the pick up I could ever need, and the weak Chevy 6.2 diesel had nothing for this beast. Ford almost got it right but their twin I beam suspension was trash and their body style well is not my favorite.
@fastvwg60 So yes RAM still has the best diesel eng on the market no doubt, but they keep shitting in thier own mouths by putting such sad excuses for transmissions in thier trucks. if dodge steped up thier game and realized that they could finally take over the diesel race if they just produced a better drive train then by all means yes dodge would be top dog, but they fail to do so that is y CHEVY DURAMAX/ALLISON is the 2011 truck of the year and RAM CUMMINS is not
@fastvwg60 They could have gone with the Aisin AS68RC 6 speed they use in the 3500, 4500, and 5500 chassis- cabs, but they for some unknown reason choose to go with the 68RFE, big mistake, once again dumbing down the pure potential of the cummins. It seems to be a trend though cause in 03 dodge had the oportunity to go with the allison 1000 trans and dumped that idea also, which then gave Chevy the edge over dodge. (continued above)
@cbsmoraine The only reason the 47 RE trannys were weak is because the factory sacrifices power for smoother shifts., I don't agree with that, but then again I don't make the decisions for Chrysler, if it were up to me I would make the tranny shift like that of a dump truck, because after all it is a fucking truck. Anybody with a little sence knows that they can build a sturdy 47 RE tranny for not alot of money and paired with the Cummins there is no other fucking pick up that can touch it !!
@fastvwg60 Yes and NO, Cummins is the best diesel eng, the only prob is that RAM can't produce a truck that show the full potental of the Cummins. The manuel transmissions dodge offered came close to unlocking they pure cummins ability, but on the other hand the automatic trans that dodge offered cause them to dumb down the cummins. Until recently dodge continued to use the horrible automatic trans, but when they debuted there 6.7 they could have.......(continued above)
@cbsmoraine HAHAHA you are so stupid it aint even funny, OKAY buddy what ever makes you feel better !! FYI a built 47 RE auto tranny is a much better tranny than a built fucking Allison and that is a fact., Ask any body that knows anything about automatic trannys, they are so good that some Chevy guys at least the ones that have any sense left in them swap their fuckin Allison trannys for built Chrysler 47 RE so put that in your pipe and smoke it.........(continued above)
Wow the dmax had a gay edge and got beat by a cummins? Fuck slap a badass EFI tune on that dmax and that cummins aint got shit on it, EFI makes a HUGE difference compared to the shitty edge.
if u wnt a diesel tht gts gud mleage gt a 1st/2nd gen 12v cummins.bst dmn diesels evr mde alng side the 7.3 powerstroke.yuh im young, im 19,nd there is 1 thng i knw, nd thts cars.been an enthusiast all my life,raised by my grandfather, who was rated as the bst mechanic on the northeast side of the united states. nd he taught me well, nd i am about to finish mechanics school nw. no trying 2to b a dick or anythng. bt i damn sure dnt wnt 2 b accused of bein a young buck that doesnt know anything.
ha good to see guys that acually tow with their trucks have a little fun. Any more its all about the lifts, the stacks, and the smoke. good video with real trucks.
@dachachamonk: yup, pretty sure thats a Cummins. pretty distinct sound. maybe what you heard was a gasser warming up close by at the beginning? that too is a distinct sound if you know what your listening for.
anyone notice how the duramax didnt let his turbo spool up a little? and he shifted second. most duramax's pull in 4 high 1st gear if there mostly stock. dodge let his turbo spool a bit then held first. unless i didnt hear a shift. but round here duramax wins. no doubt. every pull. and that gold bowtie wins most other classes too. im not downing cummins. but nothing compares to a dirty durmy. then ford is over there with there power joke.
@glenhumplick420 That might be white smoke you are refering to, because as far as this video and hundreds of other videos the mighty Dodge/Cummins always comes out on top !
@The66chevelless All I hear is WAAA WAAA WAAA like a little maxipad bitch always looking for fucking excuses, just shut tha fuck up and admit that The Dodge/Cummins was the better truck. Dodge/Cummins is better just live with it, and quit making excuses for the dirtysnatch you fucking Gay Motor fans are pathetic !
Hey dumbass the gmc is an extended cab. they are about 700 lbs lighter than the 4 door duramax. i have a 4 and the lightest ive ever weighed in at is 7400. and i hope to you dont have 28000 invested in that dodge. where you from we can both go to the same sled pull and you can get your fist loss.
@DURAMAXSTAXX WAAA WAAA WAAA another dirtysantch owner crying like a fucking bitch, you know there is a pattern here, now I know why they say that Chevy Maxipads are for pussys !
FROM WATCHIN DIESELS I GOTTA SAY DURAMAX STOCK TO A STOCK CUMMINS THE CUMMINS WILL OUT PULL A DURAMAX BUT A DURAMAX WILL OUT RUN A CUMMINS ANYDAY NOW I SAID STOCK TO STOCK NOT A CUMMINS WITH 5000 IN AFTERMARKET PARTS
It's funny how people determine how "good" a truck is based on how well it pulls a sled. All the big 3 diesel trucks are good, except the 6.0L P'stroke. It's just which one will suit your needs the best.
it doesn't even look like you have anything on that dodge just bigger exaust but still dodge all the way i have a 2006 dodge ram mega cab cummins just bought it last year and that thing has nothing on it and i can smoke any duracrap any where any time CUMMINS BABY
dude sick cummins,def showed that duramjoke was up.all you cummins hatin motherfuckers your only pissed cause ur duramax wont stand to the cummins power, ive got a 2006 3500 5.9 two door dually 4x4 with a 6 speed manual and bitch will drag any POS duramax or powerstroke. so duramax and powerstroke boys bring it on cause as you can see cummins has always got the answer.
@earct cummins is for fucking douche bags, duramax is better in every way , the cummins is weak and the powerjoke is unreliable, duramax has all the answers,
@c3h9e4v7y Yeah keep telling yourself that, maybe that helps relieve some of the pain you got from going out and buying a fucking pussy ass maxipad for $55k, and later realized you could have got the better truck Dodge/Cummins for around $45k. Way to go you fucking cunt !
@fastvwg60 That fucking dodge ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin it on!!!!!!! sometimes you get what you pay for. Ever wonder why your doors rattle every time you hit a small bump, that tranny probly already went to shit by the time i type this, if not for the cummins dodge would not exist. but mopar will always be shit!!!
@DURAMAXSTAXX o shut up I work on duracraps every day of the week THEY ARE JUNK why dont u convince all ur other stupid queer chevy friends of that too---mopar and cummins will always kick chevys ass o and that includes its retarded cousin the gmc!!! oh and that duramax probably needs injectors after that pull too--
@witterhemi I don't know about a Duramax sucking ass. The Cummins and the Duramax engines have always been reliable and equal. It's the 6.0 PowerJoke that sucks the most ass.
Yeah the 6.0 is the werst but the 7.3 International Power Stroke is bulletproof. Cummins works better in Fords than it does Dodges LOL. Ford still has the highest stake in Cummins and ther history goes back further than any other manufacturer.
@themaytagrepairman You are right about the Ford thing. I might be mistaken, but I think they had up to 20% at one time. Just stocks though. It's not like Cummins was ever close to being an actual part of FoMoCo.
@witterhemi CUMMINS, i have respect for, mopar, aint bad, but when you put it all together, dodge just dosnt build a high quality truck. If they made some major changes in there eng out put and transmission, i wouldnt hesitate to buy a cummins from them. but right now and in the past they just have not produced a product that has truly been able to compete, (yeah mod the fuck out of it, at the end of the day its a pissing contest of who has the most $.
@DURAMAXSTAXX you got to understand, your taking to a guy who was stupid enough to buy a dodge, and now we try to reason with him like he has some level of intelect. i bet if you grunt and scratch your ass with a stick he might feel like you are actually talking to him. this is one of those guys you can argue with till your eyes are bleeding and he still won't realize that 2+2 does indeed = 4
i dont care, i still love gm, i not goin to front though, i have to give dodge its credit, and that is something that u usually would never hear from me! :D
Durmax is a car like v8, the Cummings is a truck like iline 6. To rebuild the cummings you replace the sleaves, like on a semi. On the durmax you have to bore it out.
@TOMGPII ok one... its cummins... no g at the end tard... and they both have sleeves. any modern engin will hav them. he just got bigger sleeves for the duramax
@chevroletboy7 Lol... well big boy, where's your truck? That Dodge has over 313,000 miles on it as I type this... Yup, not too many Chevys get that far, and even fewer Fords. Don't get me wrong, I've had several Chevys, They're ok. Just not as good as the cummins.
Ha Ha, Well that was because I had to take all my work stuff off in order to match the GMCs weight. He had all his tools in the back seat as well. I have a rack just like his with crossover toolbox. I had to take everything off including spare tire, tailgate, and empty the inside of the truck to get my weight down to 7200 lbs. Dodges are much heavier then GMs. No front axle and aluminum heads make a big diff on the GMC
throw a programer on it. got an 08 2500hd silverado. put a 10 stage programer on it, mbrp dual exhaust, and cut the airbox on it. its got about 720 hp now only on stage 5 with the programer believe it or not. any higher, the gears will tear themselves apart and it'll blow the heads
Take a video of it so we can see it then. You come on here talking this and that... show it you can look at my video's you can see my gauges on my truck. If you had a truck that has anything it would be on Youtube
HAha, Well once you get big enough to actually drive on the road maybe you'll be able to smoke to your hearts content. If I had nothing better to post then my Daddys truck coasting in the driveway, I wouldn't post at all. Once you've spent over $14K in your truck come back and lets race. You'll then have spent a little over half of what I have.. LMHO
Sorry I don't have the printout anymore but you can ask Schied diesel from IN or Mid Atlantic Diesel Performance in MD and they could verify it. They both worked on the truck. Mid Atlantic actually thought my CP3 is the only reason I'm not over 600.
@ramdslpwr I known someone with the same truck, smarty, ats trans, ats twin turbo and ats twin cp3s dyno'd just over 600 at the wheels but he cant keep the engine together. great trucks Ive owned a 07 with a 5.9 in it but im in a 08 duramax now. owned many duramaxs and do have to say the are the fastest trucks in stock for with minor mods. intake, ppe tune or efi live and exhuast. My 08 dyno'd 518rwhp with efi live, intake,air dog, and 4" mbrp exhaust
im a dodge man dont get me wrong but i call bs that the dodge has all kinds of classified stuff? it doesnt smoke none that i can see and it doesent even sound mean? its a nice truck but come one now your pulling against a p.o.s to begin with
these people on here are fucking funny. then how is it that my truck is only supposed to pull 12K lbs, but when i pull im the last to go in my class because im running a 2003 3/4HD silverado 6.6 diesel, EFI live and a K&N mass flow pipe, im pulling 14K 400 ft. brag when you can do that. the cummins that tried got 225.46 ft and the powerstroke got 224.87 ft.. so far im top in my class.
Banks provides better performance as it is, so the only way to have a full comparison pull would for them both to be either extended or crew cabs and both with same packages from after-market providers. GM has always worked with Banks and they are a good after-market to buy from. They have always made our trucks even better when it comes to performance.
no...not at all..im a fan of both engines im just a chevy guy....yes if the Dmax woulda won i woulda said man thats a bad ass truck...Cummins is a dang good engine, all im sayin is that if it has "classified" stuff on it and the dmax isnt much higher than stock, then its not a good pull comparison.
01-04 duramax is ths LB7 motor. Why dont you pull with LBZ with a programmer and intake and exhaust and bigger treds Then we will see you woops ass and dont use your "classified stuff" just intake exhuast and chip
Well then I'd have to use the HO Cummins as well. Apples to apples, the're both 04 trucks. Yeah I got more then him, but if they both were just tuner-intake-exhaust, the Dodge would win. Dodge is heavier and weight means a lot in pulling. You guys with your brand loyalty are so stupid. Take a truck and thro 20 k into it and it will beat th guy with a tuner. then take another truck and put 80k into it. regardless of make it will beat the other guy. Money talks in power builds.
That being said, Dodge is still the most popular truck at pulling events. And the old 12 valve is the hottest engine. You will never beat the inline 6 design for a seriously built engine.
Im not talkin about how much money you can put in them. Your Banks Big Hoss has intercooler, wastegate, chip, exhaust, high ram and ram air. the dmax just has chip exhuast and intake. Put the Banks Big Hoss on the dmax and see who does what then. Make them even. If you take them to stock let it be but dont put more in the dodge and say its better.
I really dont agree with your tuner-intake-exhasut statement. Slap efi live on the dmax with stock intake, and stock exhaust (but take the muffler off) and the dmax is gonna make a lot more power then the dodge, unless u put a smarty stacked with an edge drag comp on the dodge...then things would be a little closer. Take an 06 cummins stock against a stock 06 dmax on the strip or the drag strip and i will bet my money on the dmax. But the 12 valve is the ultimate engine...built up.
Sigh.......... 1st things first...... learn to spell Then, keep on playing Fisher Price toys. They probably max out your mental capacity. I'd stay away from Legos for a few years yet. They require real thought and some assembly is required..... LMAO
i'm not saying dodge has the best all around diesel but cummins is by far the best engine period and 99.9% of people who know diesel trucks would agree with me on that... personally if you put a cummins engine in a powerstroke you have one hell of a truck
I has a question. What kind of classified stuff are we talking about? :-) that could make a huge difference ;-)
cblt2007 1 day ago
Until ford or chevy puts a million mile diesel in there trucks I won't buy them for that price cause the fuckin engines suck nuts even the 7.3 is not shit in longevity compared to the 12 valve cummins so fuck your ford
TheGoose428 2 weeks ago
cummins has been around for a while so lots of parts for it, and its a good engine but dmax just got here and already dominates every type of diesel motorsport! that tells you something about the engine!
dmaxhd1 2 months ago
Thats the truth.
usaunited1 6 months ago
dodge for the win duramax there a joke
Ahaca047 6 months ago
your piece of shit dodge doesn't even smoke! the dodge had more on it
XxQU4DSxX29QG 6 months ago
that dont sound like a normal dodge, i wonder what that stuff was that was so "classified" and the dodge won?
296jayce 7 months ago
That was a good pull between cummins and duramax. not dodge and gm. Lets see either one stand on their own two feet and design their own engine like ford. Or here is a bigger challange try not to go bankrupt again.
usaunited1 7 months ago
@usaunited1 to tell u the truth the powerjoke is a navistar engine ford didn't make it and the duramax is the gm engine
kickassman31 6 months ago
@kickassman31
You are correct about the powerstroke being built by navistar up until 2011. I figured anyone leaving comments on this forum would now that Ford has ended their contract with navistar. They are now building and designing the new powerstroke in house. Ford built ford engineered and ford designed all in house. I might add the first company to do this. As far as the duramax goes chevy couldn't build a good diesel remember the 6.2 and 6.5.
usaunited1 6 months ago
@usaunited1
Then all of sudden the japaneses get involved (call it a joint venture if you will) and all of a sudden you have one hell of a diesel. Any company even government motors can take a good base and make a few tweaks here and there and make it better. So depending what year we are talking about the powerstroke is built by navistar. For those of you who dont know this is no longer the case. ford hasnt built their own diesel since the 6.9 and that was a damn good diesel. Also
usaunited1 6 months ago
Also at least ford didnt run across seas when they had trouble with navistar once again not a ford built powerstroke. Dodge just got 53% of their shares bought by Fiat correct. Also I think the cummins is the best as of now but now way in hell is it worth owning the piece of shit around it. If you would like i could tell you the years that the powerstoke was built by navistar just let me know. Pretty sad when ford 6.0 and 6.4 were terds and still #1 selling whats that saying about the others.
usaunited1 6 months ago
Well Look what was said Chevy has the Edge and the dodge was said to have more just form the intro so take it form there not fair match, lol put that dodge against my 05 llL I will crush him (EFI life,m Edge Juice, 100 over injectors, ARP head studs, Built trans, Cold air EGR Delete, twin CP3's, and some others that u can guess from here on lol.
playaz4uus 7 months ago
@playaz4uus Bring it on.... 531 RWHP the last I dynoed it and that was not turned up all the way.
ramdslpwr 7 months ago 2
@ramdslpwr hahaha what you saying bring it on for i do 568 in tune 1 buddy i got 7 tunes ! u run in tune 6 which is 850 baby!!@!
duramax06703 4 months ago
@duramax06703 Wow... you must be in what, 2nd grade?... tsk tsk tsk tsk... that's ok... keep dreaming kiddo... maybe Daddy will let you steer his truck in the driveway sometime.... lol
ramdslpwr 4 months ago
@JustJeepin666=someone who has never owned a diesel, yet uses his spare time to constantly comment on them.
bottzxI32 7 months ago
Chevy/GMC is the best!..Dodge is such a "pretty boy" truck...were you listening to Justin Bieber while you pulled that cute little trailer????
willcp18 7 months ago
@willcp18 Lol.. har har.. that's about the best I ever heard. I live in the wild northwest of MT and Most of the trucks around here are Dodges. When I lived in NY every wanna be big guy from the city would show up at my sales lot in a big Chevy or Ford diesel. Most of those trucks never even saw a gravel road much less off roading. I know Chevy and Ford are both ok and have their place but you must be a city slicker to think that Dodges are pretty boy trucks... LMHO
ramdslpwr 7 months ago 2
@ramdslpwr Your right they are not pretty at all but there off road capability in comparison with gm is complete shit. Thier loadhauling compared to chevy is complete shit. So what we can conclude from this information is anyone stupid enough to spend hard their hard earned cash might be a country bumbkin dumb fuck who knows no better. Its ok bumkin we wont judge you.
suedepolo 6 months ago
@willcp18 lol are u kidding me, chevy is a girls truck, take your ground huggin piece of shit to the scrap yard. chevy= worthless dodge all day
bowhunt4whitetails 6 months ago
@willcp18 Chevy/GMC is as "pretty boy" as it gets. Give it even the slightest workout, and that little front end cries "Oh no, Justin, don't!" right before it snaps.
raremountainbear 5 months ago
@raremountainbear never had that kind of trouble with my dads sierra or my blazer. Have you ever noticed in the dodge diesel commercials they never dis on chevy? they only dis of ford because ford is fail. Don't get me wrong the cummins is a GREAT engine but so is a duramax. I just choose duramax because Gm is what I was raised around and I really do not like the dodge body style.
yourmomgotpwned 4 months ago
@yourmomgotpwned hmmm... in chevy/gm commercials they compare against ford too
cumminspwrram59 4 months ago
@cumminspwrram59 exactly cause ford is fail and the cummins and the duramax are the only good diesle.
yourmomgotpwned 4 months ago
@yourmomgotpwned LOL THATS WHY MY STOCK 2000 7.3 CAN PULL MY DAD'S 2010 CUMMAPART! GET A LIFE LOSER
1962Galaxie514ciMPFI 2 months ago
@1962Galaxie514ciMPFI yeah because a good diesel isn't meant to win a pull against another truck, they are meant to pull heavy loads. so as soon as a ford wins the AMCI hd testing then give me a call dumb fuck
yourmomgotpwned 2 months ago
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1962Galaxie514ciMPFI 2 months ago
@1962Galaxie514ciMPFI a good diesel? so you just agreed with me pulling my dads dodge? right? we dont put thousand's of dollar into out truck's to go fast or to go pulling like the rest of these loser's.. it matter's on how you build the vehicle to win such an event. something you loser's dont know. AMCI? buhahaha dont you know 80% of the media is biased toward's ford even motortrend? what world are you living in kid? the 7.3 6.0 6.4 arent ford product's the 6.7is. cummins isnt dodge either
1962Galaxie514ciMPFI 2 months ago
7.3 6.0 and 6.4 are international not ford. the only 2 diesel's that are made by 2 companys are the 6.7 PS and the GM duramax diesel. kid your just like the rest of the ford hating loser with no life on here your nothing to me at all. my 7.3 will always pull more load's with more weight then my dads cummins period. eat that you fuckin poonjab troll oh yeah the 7.3 diesel powerstroke and idi will always remain the best diesel for along long long time. fuck you and cummins
1962Galaxie514ciMPFI 2 months ago
diesel engines are not ment to be v'd inline is the only way to go....keep it cummins! just get it out of a dodge and put it in a chevy 3500 siverado, with 6 speed 1000 allison trans. you got it made.
jamesmetcalf21 8 months ago
GET A POWER Stroke
hacker9765 8 months ago
i was watchin the gm front end the whole time lol was kinda nervous. not a bad pull considering all he had was intake, tuner and exhaust
outdoorsman767 8 months ago
i really hate cummins haha. i gotta 92 chevy 4x4 with a 500 horse lt1. i think if i hooked up hitch to hitch i would pull a cummins.
AverageJoeTV1 9 months ago
@AverageJoeTV1 500 horses out of a 6.5 IDI, are you sure about that. You would have to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get that kind of power of those engines. Decent engines all around, especially if you want fuel economy, but power.... not even close my friend.
SleipnirEADG 8 months ago
@SleipnirEADG Probably a souped up 454 gasser.... in which case the last thing he would see of me in a bumper to bumper hookup would be his entire truck rearend dragging down the road behind mine.... lol
ramdslpwr 8 months ago
@AverageJoeTV1 you have to be joking, a stock 4x4, 24 valve turbo cummins diesel would drag your lt1 around like a ragdoll. do you know anything about gas or diesel engines? and its not just whats under the hood, many things come in to factor...
jamesmetcalf21 8 months ago
@jamesmetcalf21 im sorry for that, my friend was on my account and he was being a dumbass. sorry for wasting your time dude. i agree with you. cummins is bad ass.
AverageJoeTV1 8 months ago
mr power joke didnt get invitied to the party.
bcatz454 10 months ago
i used to be a ford guy nut gm and dodge are the way to go for sure.
adammaroney1981 10 months ago
so here is the deal duramax is good for there allison trannys but dodge has the best motor but has too much power for there trannys. my causins friend replaced his tranny 6 times but he has his motor juiced up. and plus ford just sucks found on road dead!
kdc2598 10 months ago
@kdc2598 Cummins are known for the most idiotic owners. Seriously, who in their right mind would replace the transmission 6 times and still not realize that the cummins is not only too powerful for the transmission but the transmission is too weak for anything. Plus dodge vehicles (mainly the ram) are some of the shittiest vehicles in america. Its like a candy bar, the good is on the inside but the outside (the wrapper) is just trash that should be thrown away.
ithinkimgonnaskeet11 10 months ago
@ithinkimgonnaskeet11 i didnt say that cummins was good i just said that they r way to powerful for the stock trannys. and the kid that replaced it 6 times works at cummins so he does it himself
kdc2598 10 months ago
every brand is junk so jus stop with the bs.
cummins- pulling work truck
powersroke-pulling work truck
duramax_ big fuckin deal your truck is fast and?????? thats what i thought
ARE450 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 But because im a military man and $ is something that i dont see much of, i have to choose a truck that is all around the best stock. I FEEL, that the duramax allison combo has what i need in reliibility and and over all performance (i own an 04.5) something i can mod slowly and dont have to worry about throwing a transmission into. If i ever get the $ and time, i will deffinately get a 06 or 07 5.9 cummins for my project truck
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 A Cummins 5.9 24 valve eng (i like the 5.9 it has proven it is near perfect vs the 6.7 i feel is too new to completely trust) in a Chevy bod/interior/ suspension with a Ford frame/axel/drive shaft and a freightliners AMT3 8 speed trans. I feel that would be the perfect diesel truck. I think that chevy has the most comfortible interior, and i like the body style as well,
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@cbsmoraine but the chevy front end breaks all the time. how about an 04.5 and up cummins, with a suncoast or ats tranny.
MotoX179 10 months ago
@MotoX179 dude, anyone can piss a fountain of parts. and at the end of the day its just a pissing match. when i talk about a truck i am talking about a straight out of the box product. and if you read what i have said in past post you'll see that yes i like the cummins but beyond that i am a chevy and duramax fan
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@cbsmoraine I wasnt putting chevy down. I was simply saying that the front ends on the chev trucks are no where near as strong as the dodge or ford.
MotoX179 10 months ago
@MotoX179 Ok guys simmer down..... hogging the discusion board for a week is a bit too much.. lol
ramdslpwr 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 ok now you are cooling down and finally realizing im just give a honest no confrtaional oppinion. and you right the 6.2 sucked, the 6.6 duramax is great IMO as for the 47RE being great built yeah your right, but im not talking about mod'd truck, im talking straight out of the box. anyone can have a great truck if they put money into it, and if $ was no object i would totally have a (continued)
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 JUST THROWING NUMBERS OUT THERE, but the 2011 cummins is only rated to pul 18900 pounds, the 2011 duramax is rated at 21700 and the 2011 powerstroke is rated at 22100. yeah not everyone who buys a diesel is going to be pulling the max tow rateing all day everyday but when your competition is pulling over one ton more than you, it is kind of sad
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@cbsmoraine Again you think that I'am a Chevy hater, which I'am not. I just hate people that talk all kinds of shit about Dodge. I used to buy nothing but Chevys at one point, but when I drove the first Dodge Cummins I was convinced that it was all the pick up I could ever need, and the weak Chevy 6.2 diesel had nothing for this beast. Ford almost got it right but their twin I beam suspension was trash and their body style well is not my favorite.
fastvwg60 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 So yes RAM still has the best diesel eng on the market no doubt, but they keep shitting in thier own mouths by putting such sad excuses for transmissions in thier trucks. if dodge steped up thier game and realized that they could finally take over the diesel race if they just produced a better drive train then by all means yes dodge would be top dog, but they fail to do so that is y CHEVY DURAMAX/ALLISON is the 2011 truck of the year and RAM CUMMINS is not
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 They could have gone with the Aisin AS68RC 6 speed they use in the 3500, 4500, and 5500 chassis- cabs, but they for some unknown reason choose to go with the 68RFE, big mistake, once again dumbing down the pure potential of the cummins. It seems to be a trend though cause in 03 dodge had the oportunity to go with the allison 1000 trans and dumped that idea also, which then gave Chevy the edge over dodge. (continued above)
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@cbsmoraine The only reason the 47 RE trannys were weak is because the factory sacrifices power for smoother shifts., I don't agree with that, but then again I don't make the decisions for Chrysler, if it were up to me I would make the tranny shift like that of a dump truck, because after all it is a fucking truck. Anybody with a little sence knows that they can build a sturdy 47 RE tranny for not alot of money and paired with the Cummins there is no other fucking pick up that can touch it !!
fastvwg60 10 months ago
@fastvwg60 Yes and NO, Cummins is the best diesel eng, the only prob is that RAM can't produce a truck that show the full potental of the Cummins. The manuel transmissions dodge offered came close to unlocking they pure cummins ability, but on the other hand the automatic trans that dodge offered cause them to dumb down the cummins. Until recently dodge continued to use the horrible automatic trans, but when they debuted there 6.7 they could have.......(continued above)
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@cbsmoraine HAHAHA you are so stupid it aint even funny, OKAY buddy what ever makes you feel better !! FYI a built 47 RE auto tranny is a much better tranny than a built fucking Allison and that is a fact., Ask any body that knows anything about automatic trannys, they are so good that some Chevy guys at least the ones that have any sense left in them swap their fuckin Allison trannys for built Chrysler 47 RE so put that in your pipe and smoke it.........(continued above)
fastvwg60 10 months ago
nice do you have any chips in yours cause we have an 04 dodge 3500 Cummins and it has better acceleraltion than any gasoline truck and i love it
1232744 11 months ago
Wow the dmax had a gay edge and got beat by a cummins? Fuck slap a badass EFI tune on that dmax and that cummins aint got shit on it, EFI makes a HUGE difference compared to the shitty edge.
160speedy 11 months ago
if u wnt a diesel tht gts gud mleage gt a 1st/2nd gen 12v cummins.bst dmn diesels evr mde alng side the 7.3 powerstroke.yuh im young, im 19,nd there is 1 thng i knw, nd thts cars.been an enthusiast all my life,raised by my grandfather, who was rated as the bst mechanic on the northeast side of the united states. nd he taught me well, nd i am about to finish mechanics school nw. no trying 2to b a dick or anythng. bt i damn sure dnt wnt 2 b accused of bein a young buck that doesnt know anything.
bigblockpower09 11 months ago
Sure, the cummins is better, with towing, but the pickup around it? no.
THEBLAZIERKID 1 year ago
ha good to see guys that acually tow with their trucks have a little fun. Any more its all about the lifts, the stacks, and the smoke. good video with real trucks.
suzukirider67 1 year ago
Haha classified stuff... sounds stupid... man people are dumb
07STINKYBOY 1 year ago
@dachachamonk: yup, pretty sure thats a Cummins. pretty distinct sound. maybe what you heard was a gasser warming up close by at the beginning? that too is a distinct sound if you know what your listening for.
HotChipsify 1 year ago
anyone notice how the duramax didnt let his turbo spool up a little? and he shifted second. most duramax's pull in 4 high 1st gear if there mostly stock. dodge let his turbo spool a bit then held first. unless i didnt hear a shift. but round here duramax wins. no doubt. every pull. and that gold bowtie wins most other classes too. im not downing cummins. but nothing compares to a dirty durmy. then ford is over there with there power joke.
The66chevelless 1 year ago
rather b cummin than strokin the new duramax smokes them both!
glenhumplick420 1 year ago
@glenhumplick420 That might be white smoke you are refering to, because as far as this video and hundreds of other videos the mighty Dodge/Cummins always comes out on top !
fastvwg60 1 year ago
@The66chevelless All I hear is WAAA WAAA WAAA like a little maxipad bitch always looking for fucking excuses, just shut tha fuck up and admit that The Dodge/Cummins was the better truck. Dodge/Cummins is better just live with it, and quit making excuses for the dirtysnatch you fucking Gay Motor fans are pathetic !
fastvwg60 1 year ago
Hey dumbass the gmc is an extended cab. they are about 700 lbs lighter than the 4 door duramax. i have a 4 and the lightest ive ever weighed in at is 7400. and i hope to you dont have 28000 invested in that dodge. where you from we can both go to the same sled pull and you can get your fist loss.
DURAMAXSTAXX 1 year ago
@DURAMAXSTAXX WAAA WAAA WAAA another dirtysantch owner crying like a fucking bitch, you know there is a pattern here, now I know why they say that Chevy Maxipads are for pussys !
fastvwg60 1 year ago
well the guy in the d-max did'nt know what he was doing!
Kenny42581 1 year ago
FROM WATCHIN DIESELS I GOTTA SAY DURAMAX STOCK TO A STOCK CUMMINS THE CUMMINS WILL OUT PULL A DURAMAX BUT A DURAMAX WILL OUT RUN A CUMMINS ANYDAY NOW I SAID STOCK TO STOCK NOT A CUMMINS WITH 5000 IN AFTERMARKET PARTS
countrypride89 1 year ago
It's funny how people determine how "good" a truck is based on how well it pulls a sled. All the big 3 diesel trucks are good, except the 6.0L P'stroke. It's just which one will suit your needs the best.
JoelW98GTP 1 year ago
no its because THE DOGDE WASNT A CUMMINS U CAN TOTALLY TELL not to be rude or anything
dachachamonk 1 year ago
@dachachamonk the dodge was not a cummins? you on crack?
cummins59ish 1 year ago
not bad them trucks look pretty much stock, no phat tires or nothin
snowbell01 1 year ago
@snowbell01 No phat tires huh? I didnt know they made "phat" tires. lol Or is that a capitol P? Oh Phat is a brand. haha
jfkdidmymom 1 year ago
Yeah umm Duramx F.T.W. lol
305BoondockSaint 1 year ago
it doesn't even look like you have anything on that dodge just bigger exaust but still dodge all the way i have a 2006 dodge ram mega cab cummins just bought it last year and that thing has nothing on it and i can smoke any duracrap any where any time CUMMINS BABY
peddards 1 year ago
@peddards you couldnt but my brother in laws friend can.. man he did by 50 ft
Prodecessor981 1 year ago
dude sick cummins,def showed that duramjoke was up.all you cummins hatin motherfuckers your only pissed cause ur duramax wont stand to the cummins power, ive got a 2006 3500 5.9 two door dually 4x4 with a 6 speed manual and bitch will drag any POS duramax or powerstroke. so duramax and powerstroke boys bring it on cause as you can see cummins has always got the answer.
earct 1 year ago
@earct cummins is for fucking douche bags, duramax is better in every way , the cummins is weak and the powerjoke is unreliable, duramax has all the answers,
c3h9e4v7y 1 year ago
@c3h9e4v7y thats why he just made durashit go down the toilet... thanks shit head
Prodecessor981 1 year ago
@c3h9e4v7y Wow seens like you know nothing about diesel engines.
cuautlajal 1 year ago
@c3h9e4v7y Yeah keep telling yourself that, maybe that helps relieve some of the pain you got from going out and buying a fucking pussy ass maxipad for $55k, and later realized you could have got the better truck Dodge/Cummins for around $45k. Way to go you fucking cunt !
fastvwg60 1 year ago
@fastvwg60 That fucking dodge ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin it on!!!!!!! sometimes you get what you pay for. Ever wonder why your doors rattle every time you hit a small bump, that tranny probly already went to shit by the time i type this, if not for the cummins dodge would not exist. but mopar will always be shit!!!
DURAMAXSTAXX 1 year ago
@DURAMAXSTAXX o shut up I work on duracraps every day of the week THEY ARE JUNK why dont u convince all ur other stupid queer chevy friends of that too---mopar and cummins will always kick chevys ass o and that includes its retarded cousin the gmc!!! oh and that duramax probably needs injectors after that pull too--
witterhemi 1 year ago
@witterhemi I don't know about a Duramax sucking ass. The Cummins and the Duramax engines have always been reliable and equal. It's the 6.0 PowerJoke that sucks the most ass.
522viper 1 year ago 18
@522viper
Agreed but the 7.3 Poser Stroke kicks any Isuzu ass.
SecularTechnology 10 months ago
@522viper
Yeah the 6.0 is the werst but the 7.3 International Power Stroke is bulletproof. Cummins works better in Fords than it does Dodges LOL. Ford still has the highest stake in Cummins and ther history goes back further than any other manufacturer.
SecularTechnology 9 months ago
@SecularTechnology I've read that ford's stake in Cummins isn't that big. They said in the article that Caterpillar has a majority of Cummins.
themaytagrepairman 7 months ago
@themaytagrepairman You are right about the Ford thing. I might be mistaken, but I think they had up to 20% at one time. Just stocks though. It's not like Cummins was ever close to being an actual part of FoMoCo.
bisquik3006 7 months ago
@themaytagrepairman
What article? Caterpillar is Cummins biggest rival.
SecularTechnology 7 months ago
@witterhemi CUMMINS, i have respect for, mopar, aint bad, but when you put it all together, dodge just dosnt build a high quality truck. If they made some major changes in there eng out put and transmission, i wouldnt hesitate to buy a cummins from them. but right now and in the past they just have not produced a product that has truly been able to compete, (yeah mod the fuck out of it, at the end of the day its a pissing contest of who has the most $.
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
@DURAMAXSTAXX you got to understand, your taking to a guy who was stupid enough to buy a dodge, and now we try to reason with him like he has some level of intelect. i bet if you grunt and scratch your ass with a stick he might feel like you are actually talking to him. this is one of those guys you can argue with till your eyes are bleeding and he still won't realize that 2+2 does indeed = 4
cbsmoraine 10 months ago
i dont care, i still love gm, i not goin to front though, i have to give dodge its credit, and that is something that u usually would never hear from me! :D
296jayce 1 year ago
if your cylinders are not inline, then you're out of line.
fasttoyo 1 year ago
dodge rocks.
58hondaman 1 year ago
Durmax is a car like v8, the Cummings is a truck like iline 6. To rebuild the cummings you replace the sleaves, like on a semi. On the durmax you have to bore it out.
TOMGPII 1 year ago
@TOMGPII its CUMMINS. no g
guitarguyf15 1 year ago
@TOMGPII ok one... its cummins... no g at the end tard... and they both have sleeves. any modern engin will hav them. he just got bigger sleeves for the duramax
Adams01100 1 year ago
haha who cares as long as mopar wins :D
Redneckdh71 1 year ago
what about that classified stuff huh?.. like to have seen them both stock...
yourit311 1 year ago
dodge is a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VanWyk85 1 year ago
haha " that was a full pull jasey"
DieselMX34 1 year ago
isn't the duramaxi a vulva engine? i mean volvo?
choochyo 1 year ago
@choochyo its an isuzu engine
guitarguyf15 1 year ago
Three cheers for the Rail... Nice job for the Duramax too. You gonna slap some stacks on it or what???
railroadtrash09 1 year ago
lol to edge and banks.
keepemkupt001 1 year ago
lol to edge.
keepemkupt001 1 year ago
that chevys probably seen alot of job sites , that dodge has probably seen alot of wrenches lol
c3h9e4v7y 1 year ago 8
@c3h9e4v7y i agree, he prolly put on them mods on it cuz the piece of shit couldnt keep up w a real truck
chevroletboy7 10 months ago
@chevroletboy7 Lol... well big boy, where's your truck? That Dodge has over 313,000 miles on it as I type this... Yup, not too many Chevys get that far, and even fewer Fords. Don't get me wrong, I've had several Chevys, They're ok. Just not as good as the cummins.
ramdslpwr 10 months ago
cummins got crappy trans duramaxas have the best allision transmission both good moters but duramax got one better thing.
chevy97ful 8 months ago
@chevy97ful That TorqueFlite did just as well as the Allison. That's impressive considering the Allison is an industrial transmission.
themaytagrepairman 7 months ago
haha is that a utility rack on top of the Chevy?
kittenkicker101 1 year ago
Let's just say it....CHEVYS ARE PIECES OF SHIT! hahaha lol
Dillpickle1132 1 year ago 2
hey thatguy2105 your an diot. i can tell a diesel from a gas from any distance. you just dont know enough about one
RunninTheVill 1 year ago
You cant beat !!CUMMINS!!
radio517 1 year ago
tahts y u dont get come-alongs u get a fuckin duramax
tractorboy96 2 years ago
what else is on that cummins
5flyingporkchop5 2 years ago
Damn great pulls, especially for your first runs!
phattacorider 2 years ago 2
hahaha the guy on the mic is a dumbass....FORD Diesel my ass
CountryAss001 2 years ago 4
duramax still wins...cummins is nice but duramax is wootastick
POPCORN454545 2 years ago
good ole cummings pull power gotta love it
marbman2231 2 years ago
gmc didnt pin it to win it. dodge had more under hood. u can teel at the beginning of pull. sounded like a bigger cam
megamud1 2 years ago
so? haha redoing your cam doesnt do to much
xXTurboEGXx 2 years ago
cummins power wins every time
alexadams1212 2 years ago
GOOD PULL both Chevy and Dodge CLAP CLAP CLAP
cumminonchevy 2 years ago 4
you can tell the gmc does more actual work than the dodge
01ChevyZ71Fisherman 2 years ago 4
Ha Ha, Well that was because I had to take all my work stuff off in order to match the GMCs weight. He had all his tools in the back seat as well. I have a rack just like his with crossover toolbox. I had to take everything off including spare tire, tailgate, and empty the inside of the truck to get my weight down to 7200 lbs. Dodges are much heavier then GMs. No front axle and aluminum heads make a big diff on the GMC
ramdslpwr 2 years ago 8
dang, thats a heavy tuck, it sets nice too
01ChevyZ71Fisherman 2 years ago
@ramdslpwr also, the weight of that massive cummins FAR outweighs the total weightt of the duramax, even if the duramax had cast iron heads
guitarguyf15 1 year ago
@01ChevyZ71Fisherman yeah but the chevy had more tune up than than the dodge chevy blew smoke cummins did not
TheCummins17 1 year ago
no its just a cummins. of course its going to win.
polevaulterjs 2 years ago
You obviously put far more money into your truck than the GMC. lol
Jay500500500 2 years ago
throw a programer on it. got an 08 2500hd silverado. put a 10 stage programer on it, mbrp dual exhaust, and cut the airbox on it. its got about 720 hp now only on stage 5 with the programer believe it or not. any higher, the gears will tear themselves apart and it'll blow the heads
tp7292 2 years ago
Take a video of it so we can see it then. You come on here talking this and that... show it you can look at my video's you can see my gauges on my truck. If you had a truck that has anything it would be on Youtube
cumminonchevy 2 years ago
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haha yea id lose the dyno to if i lie about how much hp i got to...its ok..maybe one day youll really have that much
DavidP860 2 years ago
HAha, Well once you get big enough to actually drive on the road maybe you'll be able to smoke to your hearts content. If I had nothing better to post then my Daddys truck coasting in the driveway, I wouldn't post at all. Once you've spent over $14K in your truck come back and lets race. You'll then have spent a little over half of what I have.. LMHO
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
you post the dyno and ill believe that
DavidP860 2 years ago
Sorry I don't have the printout anymore but you can ask Schied diesel from IN or Mid Atlantic Diesel Performance in MD and they could verify it. They both worked on the truck. Mid Atlantic actually thought my CP3 is the only reason I'm not over 600.
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
@ramdslpwr I known someone with the same truck, smarty, ats trans, ats twin turbo and ats twin cp3s dyno'd just over 600 at the wheels but he cant keep the engine together. great trucks Ive owned a 07 with a 5.9 in it but im in a 08 duramax now. owned many duramaxs and do have to say the are the fastest trucks in stock for with minor mods. intake, ppe tune or efi live and exhuast. My 08 dyno'd 518rwhp with efi live, intake,air dog, and 4" mbrp exhaust
gotboostduramax 1 year ago
im a dodge man dont get me wrong but i call bs that the dodge has all kinds of classified stuff? it doesnt smoke none that i can see and it doesent even sound mean? its a nice truck but come one now your pulling against a p.o.s to begin with
DavidP860 2 years ago
Not all powerful trucks smoke a lot. 530 rwhp takes a lot more then a banks six gun.
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
these people on here are fucking funny. then how is it that my truck is only supposed to pull 12K lbs, but when i pull im the last to go in my class because im running a 2003 3/4HD silverado 6.6 diesel, EFI live and a K&N mass flow pipe, im pulling 14K 400 ft. brag when you can do that. the cummins that tried got 225.46 ft and the powerstroke got 224.87 ft.. so far im top in my class.
JustinHansen6669 2 years ago
hahah ITS a GAY GMC.... LAME way to ruin daddy's work truck
Banning88 2 years ago
lol, so true
jjjhedder 2 years ago
Damn
aea3030 2 years ago
6 ina row biult to tow, cummins babbyy
DieselMX34 2 years ago 15
the tires wornt spinning if they woulda keeped going somthing woulda POPED
THEDUKEOFDIPPIN 2 years ago
Banks provides better performance as it is, so the only way to have a full comparison pull would for them both to be either extended or crew cabs and both with same packages from after-market providers. GM has always worked with Banks and they are a good after-market to buy from. They have always made our trucks even better when it comes to performance.
GeneralMotors2009 2 years ago
i dnt believe it has that much more "classified" stuff the cummins is just a better engine.. come on the cummins aint even puffin
jdexter67 2 years ago 8
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THATS NOT FAIR
05greendmax 2 years ago
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That Duramax did horribly, my '01 Chevy Duramax did a hell of a lot better than that.
nmband13 2 years ago
Pathetic haters commin from everywhere...
Dodge has always been the best truck.
MG42pillbox 2 years ago 7
no cummins has always been the best engine. Big difference. Dodge is shit other than the cummins
pewter99chevyz71 2 years ago
NO Chevy i shit as my customers have proven by trading so many of the POS for the Rams
MG42pillbox 2 years ago
oh and edge sucks ass...go EFI live...
yamarida07 2 years ago 4
ya whats the classified shit that the dmax doesnt have??? dumb pull if ur gonna do a vid like this they should at least be equal.
yamarida07 2 years ago
In other words if chevy loses it is dumb. But if chevy would have won it would be proof of what an awesome truck chevy is.. LOL
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
no...not at all..im a fan of both engines im just a chevy guy....yes if the Dmax woulda won i woulda said man thats a bad ass truck...Cummins is a dang good engine, all im sayin is that if it has "classified" stuff on it and the dmax isnt much higher than stock, then its not a good pull comparison.
yamarida 2 years ago 2
Neither truck was very impressive....actually rather boring, sorry.
KB3MMX 2 years ago
pullin aint horsepower its a matter of torque with these guys cause they are most likely pullin in 4low and you cant beat the torque of the cummins
2003z400 2 years ago
ya u can duramax just did by 50 lbs
Chevysilverado9 2 years ago
in what?
jonesd5o 2 years ago
all pullin is is horspower and weight thats it.
rickeymaloy99 2 years ago
01-04 duramax is ths LB7 motor. Why dont you pull with LBZ with a programmer and intake and exhaust and bigger treds Then we will see you woops ass and dont use your "classified stuff" just intake exhuast and chip
dmax22333 2 years ago
Well then I'd have to use the HO Cummins as well. Apples to apples, the're both 04 trucks. Yeah I got more then him, but if they both were just tuner-intake-exhaust, the Dodge would win. Dodge is heavier and weight means a lot in pulling. You guys with your brand loyalty are so stupid. Take a truck and thro 20 k into it and it will beat th guy with a tuner. then take another truck and put 80k into it. regardless of make it will beat the other guy. Money talks in power builds.
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
That being said, Dodge is still the most popular truck at pulling events. And the old 12 valve is the hottest engine. You will never beat the inline 6 design for a seriously built engine.
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
Im not talkin about how much money you can put in them. Your Banks Big Hoss has intercooler, wastegate, chip, exhaust, high ram and ram air. the dmax just has chip exhuast and intake. Put the Banks Big Hoss on the dmax and see who does what then. Make them even. If you take them to stock let it be but dont put more in the dodge and say its better.
dmax22333 2 years ago
I really dont agree with your tuner-intake-exhasut statement. Slap efi live on the dmax with stock intake, and stock exhaust (but take the muffler off) and the dmax is gonna make a lot more power then the dodge, unless u put a smarty stacked with an edge drag comp on the dodge...then things would be a little closer. Take an 06 cummins stock against a stock 06 dmax on the strip or the drag strip and i will bet my money on the dmax. But the 12 valve is the ultimate engine...built up.
SleeperLBZ 2 years ago
yeah well you know what my grandas rav 4 cam pull farther that man.. come on
Banning88 2 years ago
Sigh.......... 1st things first...... learn to spell Then, keep on playing Fisher Price toys. They probably max out your mental capacity. I'd stay away from Legos for a few years yet. They require real thought and some assembly is required..... LMAO
ramdslpwr 2 years ago
i'm not saying dodge has the best all around diesel but cummins is by far the best engine period and 99.9% of people who know diesel trucks would agree with me on that... personally if you put a cummins engine in a powerstroke you have one hell of a truck
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