lol AronRa kinda reminds me of that scene in Wayne's World where they meet Alice Cooper backstage and they are expecting some party animal then he opens his mout and... "wtf"
I wish I was as smart and eloquent as AronRa is. The man is a "Hippie" by appearence, he rides a harley, and he absolutely blows away the stereotype in his intelligence and smooth mannerisms.
Well, technically eating FRUITS, doesn't kill the fruitbearing trees, shrubs etc.
Eating ROOT-vegetables does kill the plant (Although they didn't have potatoes in the ancient middle east, given how potatoes are native to the Andes. (However they probably had other rootvegetables) But fruits... eh, not so much.
I don't want to defend the religious guy (because he's spouting nonsense (Albeit at least a loveable sort of happy nonsense, nonsense nonetheless.)
Actually in that sense a better counterargument to the religious guy is that if you eat fruits you will probably kill lots of microorganisms living in the fruit. That'd be unavoidable. Even the ones that survive being in your body and might even infect you. Some of them die. In fact your entire body is a big war between microorganisms, your immune system and even symbiotic bacteria. So indeed if a god designed that, then death is STILL designed into the system even with fruit.
this reminds me of the fact that so many vegitarians act in such a way that demeans plants as some kind of unliving thing, like they don't matter, and are useless
but what he says makes a big difference between fruit and vegetables and animal cells. I don't agree with the guy but Matt and Aronra are not understanding his argument very well. right?
@bman16407 Well, I am not sure anyone can understand his argument, lol. It seems to be an argument were a lack of understanding of how nature works is needed.
@Seldomsleeper but what he says makes a big difference between fruit and vegetables and animal cells. I don't agree with the guy but Matt and Aronra are not understanding his argument very well. right?
@lupine73 but what he says makes a big difference between fruit and vegetables and animal cells. I don't agree with the guy but Matt and Aronra are not understanding his argument very well. right?
One problem I have here is their use of the words "living cells", and also "killing". That a cell is a "living" organisme is simply a biological definition... I don't really consider a single cell a "living" being, even though I realize that it works with the biological definition.
The point I'm trying to make is, that the biological definition of "living" is a bit random. If one of the rules for a "living" thing was "able to feel", then biology today wouldn't have a cell as the example of the smalest unite of life, but.. I don't know, the smallest creature with that particular ability.
I just think when you discuss storys that are that old you cannot argue with a definition that is as new as the biological definition of "life".
That was great, but I wish they had given Luke more time to explain his theories. But really, how much mush do you have to have for brains before nonsense like this not only makes sense but also becomes some kind of proof of a fantastical truth?
What we can observe is a reaction to physical stimulance, extreme ones like fire or cutting and whatever too, but its a bit far fetched to say "they feel pain"
Ah,.. the power of the mighty non sequitur to fill one's lack of reason and the pillows of one's false securities.EG: Some girl gave me a wink at the library today, wow this sock in my front pocket must really be working.
Actually, the Genesis story has God telling Adam & Eve & all the animals in the garden that they may eat all the plants except the tree of knowledge of good & evil. Also, most plants do not have to die to provide food for animals. It is not until after the big flood story that the bible has God telling humans they can eat both plants and animals. Don't get me wrong here. I believe this crap either but at least let's get the stories right.
Ah I dunno, Luke seems harmless and likeable enough.
Full of crap, sure. But not in a BAD way. I like altruists, so if he's really sincere about that, he gets a pass from me, and he should stick to his faith then, even if it is very silly.
The bible verse says "...you are free to eat...". God does not command man to eat or else they will die. So before the fall they did not have to eat, but they were free to eat for the enjoyment thereof. So their argument does not hold water. Except for all of the bible being bogus through and through, of course.
@Speedable But he didn't say not to, thereby implying tacit consent. Mind you it is a fairy tale and I think that semantics are being taking WAY to seriously here. Still, to allow the hypothetical that Adam and Eve (humans) could survive without eating anything not only contradicts all medical biology, but indeed the laws of physics themselves. Such would make their bodies closed systems, ergo not the bodies of humans.
Why would God give the Cheetah fangs, claws, incredible speed, perception of depth, aggression, and a digestive system that can process meat, if he did not intend the Cheetah to hunt other animals? If God wanted us to only eat plants, then why would he give us the physical tools to eat meat? Was he stupid? Confused? A piss-poor engineer? Did he have a dark sense of humour? What was his reason? Law of Love = FAIL.
Gravity: God loves us so much that he thought: I'm not just going to give you a ground to walk on but I'm going to tether you to it and pull you towards it even if you are 200 feet above it. God made our survival necessary on the possibility of falling and getting hurt, or dying, and a law that pisses many of us off (how many of you would LIKE, very much, to fly like superman?) I call that God an asshole!
God created all biological interactions out of love, from beneficial symbiosis, to horribly painful parasitism and predation, but being greedy in your interaction and throwing off the balance is sin? Well, thousands of species have been driven to extinction by other animals, are those animals sinners? There is no indication that all species were just popped into existence and have a right to their slice of the resource pie, that's not evolution. Only we do because we can enforce it.
@mrbluesky323 Even when he had his turn (and he DID), all he managed to do was spew out the same shit everyone's already heard a million times from every OTHER creationist. On top of that, what he did manage to get out, made absolutely no sense; the idiot had no idea what he was talking about.
The caller really needs to brush up on basic high school science...whether theist or not-just some freakin' basic knowledge of the world he actually inhabits and affects him.
There's a parasitic wasp that will inject a larvae with paralysis venom and lay it's eggs into that larvae. Then the eggs will hatch and the wasps larvae will eat that larvae alive and because it's paralyzed it can't do a damn thing about it. Hows that for a "law of love"?
Amazing how, when torn to fucking shreds by logic, science or rationality, the religious will always say "Well that's fine. You are totally free to believe what you want to believe." which is nothing more than a statement of I can't win because i'm full of shit
@sum1otosh1 Personally, I always found that phrase to be hollow and disingenuous. The religious doesn't think we have the right "to believe what you want to believe." Not when his religion decrees that those who don't not pass theological muster will be punished forever, or worse, need to be sent there by the faithful.
If he believes God created the so called "law of love", and also created all the animals/plants in their current configuration and the relationships between the various species, then god created animals dependant on giving (symbiosis), like bees and flowers to plants producing O2 and animals CO2 and god also created animals which are dependant upon killing others to survive, parasites, predators etc. This is all very exhaustive there is no law this is a load of sht and a waste of time. wow.....
well Mr. Starcraft, one example off the top of my head would be tape worms, or any member of the parasite family, i dunno just a guess, tell kerrigan i said hi!!!!!!!
What morons...Who would argue or try to reason with fools? The Fool hath said in his heart that there is no God... The look on these guys faces, when their knee bows to Jesus will be etched for eternity...
@timrice666 I like your post, except for one thing, my God is spelled with a capital G. atheists are often intimidated by the capital G, so out of respect, I like to just call him by the name of Jesus! That live forever thing you mentioned has a nice ring to it, doesn't it.... Too bad some will never experience it, but there is still hope that some will be converted and find salvation in Christ, but most have already been turned over to a reprobate mind, atheist is such a sad word.....
@timrice666 I'm not afraid of letters capital or otherwise. We only know for sure that there is one life so enjoy'have fun and I would ask you to consider what eternal "life" in heaven worshipping God/god/gods would be like, I'm glad there is no afterlife, it would be hell wherever you ended up. Be happy and accept reality.
@pyr666 I realize that it's the fool that saith in his heart, that there is no God.... That is according to God's Word. That's cut and dried.... The verse you are talking about is a totally different scripture, and we must rightly divide the Word of God, to have understanding of it. Since you call it my book, you make it clear that you don't have any understanding of it. If you get your understanding of God's Word, from atheist such as these two morons, you are pretty foolish yourself.....
Do you know that recent studies show that the brain of the old primates started to grow in a manner that got completely different to others animals brains when those primates started to eat meat in big quantities?
Atheist conclussion: Eating meat was an important step to become humans.
Christian conclussion: God wanted those creatures to kill and eat a lot of meat to become humans, his favourites and loved pets.
Why is it that the most religious individuals who display the most certitude in their convictions seem to have the LEAST amount of working knowledge of their own faith?
Brilliant. Great work. I think you may have had him with the pen falling. Unfortunately using analogies is sometimes the only way to bring otherwise good wording into what someone can understand. You should have continued saying that the pen falling is prof of mother earth wanting us to be closer to her. That's as much proof as he was providing.
You don't have to quote the verse the Christian enthusiast pretends isn't there. The audience who's familiar with the Bible knows its there. He's simply throwing up any roadblock to the argument, including dishonesty itself.
When you've identified dishonesty as part of a person's method of argument, the conversation is over. It is sheer flattery to pretend for a moment that the arguer has faith.
When an atheist has to tell you what's in your own Bible, you're not reading it.
AronRa. I don't know why but to look upon you is to look upon evil. I don't bleieve in any mythological crap but if there was a satan, I can only imagine you'd look just like it.
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You fucking meat-eating atheists. You're supposed to believe in science. Don't you know what fucking nervous systems are. Don't you know that animals feel pain through their nervous system, and plants, lacking nervous systems, do not? You fat fucking meat-eating heathenous motherfuckers.
@roner61 Logically, that's an inadequate response, not to mention an ad hominem attack on religion, and an argumentum ad ridiculum. What matters is that I am a vegetarian, and when he says death is what we depend on to exist, that's just bullshit and ambiguous, depending on whether you define death as the process of no longer thriving in a functioning organic process, or as loss of a conscious organism endowed with nerves.
@bigevilcorporation It's very clear..plants and animals are both living creatures of course they have their differances but that has nothing to do w/ the circle of: life lives by killing this is something we have known for 60,000+ years.
Correct you being vegetarian matters, but only to yourself. As you are the most important consciousness to yourself the same as I'm the most important consciousness to myself ad infinitum.
@bigevilcorporation oh sweet jebus, a moron! life is not simply defined as 'organic process' (do you even know what that is? lol!). Plants are as much alive as are microbes and animals. yes, there are physiological differences among those groups, but they're all alive! And that proves god - how?
@xBuscopanx I didn't even mention god, and wasn't trying to prove his existence. Did you watch the video? Are you going to argue and say that plants can feel pain. Fuck, you're an idiot.
@bigevilcorporation I nowhere said plants were feeling pain. Neither was it claimed in the video. However plants are still living beings. You're still a moron.
@xBuscopanx If you want to argue semantics, then yes, plants are living beings. I'm not arguing on behalf of that idiot luke, but he said we depend on death to survive, I was just saying it depends on whether you consider death to be the end of a conscious life or the death of any form of life.
@bigevilcorporation Ahaha! Plants being alive is not an issue of semantics, your 'logic' is. Keep redefining things if it makes you happy! Are you telling me people in coma are not alive? Or embryos? Or jellyfish? :D Dude, I'm done with you!
btw you might also want to look up the actual biology: cells = alive, "organic processes" (whatever that is, maybe you refer to biochemistry) = not alive.
@xBuscopanx I was referring to the phrase "living being" when talking about semantics. Do you even know what semantics means? And you're fucking retarded. Go google, literally, "Organic Process Definition". I never said any of those things weren't alive btw.
@bigevilcorporation you're the retarded one. "Organic process" can be a process catalyzed by living beings or a reaction of organic compounds, which doesn't need a living being to take place. So your throwing around of sciency words doesn't really mean anything.
You said non-conscious life is not really life. By that definition comatose people, embryos and jellyfish are not alive so stfu.
@xBuscopanx Organic Process: A process occurring in living organisms.
No, Comatose people have a nervous system. They are unconscious, not permanently non-conscious. Zygotes develope a nervous system after eight weeks, before that they are just a bundle of cells.
@xBuscopanx "The end of life of an organism or cell. In humans and animals, death is manifested by the permanent cessation of vital organic functions, including the absence of heartbeat, spontaneous breathing, and brain activity."
I didn't say life was having a nervous system you stupid troll.
@bigevilcorporation that's what you're constantly implying. Go read your own comments. Getting angry at your own inconsistency? lol Nothing of this really contributes to the discussion, so good-bye! :D
@xBuscopanx I'm not inconsistent, you just continually try to paraphrase me for things I didn't say, so I must continue clarifying for you. You're a stupid monkey, go fetch a banana.
Yes you were inconsistent...you made a claim that didn't meet the burden of proof you needed it to as to make your argument and the implications of that argument true.
You did nothing but spew a bunch of infantile non-sense because the ideas in this video offended your frail religious sensibilities. You are arrogant and stubborn because you hold a beleif that you yourself cannot fathom and thus become hostile in face of evidence you cannot beleive because you are forbiden.
AronRa's laugh at 10:27 gets me everytime xD
FemaleUnknownUser 1 week ago
lol AronRa kinda reminds me of that scene in Wayne's World where they meet Alice Cooper backstage and they are expecting some party animal then he opens his mout and... "wtf"
Cheapshot420420 1 month ago
I wish I was as smart and eloquent as AronRa is. The man is a "Hippie" by appearence, he rides a harley, and he absolutely blows away the stereotype in his intelligence and smooth mannerisms.
cdickenson64 1 month ago
@cdickenson64 Hippe?
He looks like a bad-ass Death Metal guitarist like Toki Wartooth.
PurpleStorm8 1 month ago
@PurpleStorm8 I think he looks like a combination. Maybe he hugs bunnies but kicks peoples ass.
rooney14282 4 weeks ago
Being loud doesn't make ignorance truth.
TheFallenGate 1 month ago
How could Adam and Eve have known it was wrong to defy God and eat from the Tree of Good and Evil if they didn't understand what 'wrong' was?
TrustedAlias 1 month ago
After 20 minutes, I still have no damn idea what the "law of love" is...
zfan2591 1 month ago 5
Well, technically eating FRUITS, doesn't kill the fruitbearing trees, shrubs etc.
Eating ROOT-vegetables does kill the plant (Although they didn't have potatoes in the ancient middle east, given how potatoes are native to the Andes. (However they probably had other rootvegetables) But fruits... eh, not so much.
I don't want to defend the religious guy (because he's spouting nonsense (Albeit at least a loveable sort of happy nonsense, nonsense nonetheless.)
But eating fruit doesn't kill plants
TheSkunkCat 1 month ago
@TheSkunkCat
Actually in that sense a better counterargument to the religious guy is that if you eat fruits you will probably kill lots of microorganisms living in the fruit. That'd be unavoidable. Even the ones that survive being in your body and might even infect you. Some of them die. In fact your entire body is a big war between microorganisms, your immune system and even symbiotic bacteria. So indeed if a god designed that, then death is STILL designed into the system even with fruit.
TheSkunkCat 1 month ago
4:23 JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP LUKE.
seanmathews009 1 month ago
"Potatoes don't survive very well being eaten. :/" Damn right they don't!
SnippyDoughnut 2 months ago
"I am surrounded by naked cheerleaders!!" *Looks around* Dang it....
KawarrenD 2 months ago
hahahaah xD
ManuelVelasquez2011 2 months ago
this reminds me of the fact that so many vegitarians act in such a way that demeans plants as some kind of unliving thing, like they don't matter, and are useless
ophios 2 months ago
but what he says makes a big difference between fruit and vegetables and animal cells. I don't agree with the guy but Matt and Aronra are not understanding his argument very well. right?
bman16407 2 months ago
@bman16407 No. No one said animal cells. "Living cells" is what they said. "Animals must consume living cells to survive. Plants are alive.
Gorgormcgor 2 months ago
@bman16407 Well, I am not sure anyone can understand his argument, lol. It seems to be an argument were a lack of understanding of how nature works is needed.
Jesses001 2 months ago
He probably argues his 'law of love' to people and because not everyone is as smart as Matt and AronRa it leads him to think he is right
Seldomsleeper 3 months ago
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@Seldomsleeper but what he says makes a big difference between fruit and vegetables and animal cells. I don't agree with the guy but Matt and Aronra are not understanding his argument very well. right?
bman16407 2 months ago
I eat dead cells all the time
parkerthehicks 3 months ago
Holy crap. AronRa kicks ass on this show!
Y'all need to figure out how to get him on more often!
lupine73 3 months ago 4
@lupine73 Totally agree!
Seldomsleeper 3 months ago
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@lupine73 but what he says makes a big difference between fruit and vegetables and animal cells. I don't agree with the guy but Matt and Aronra are not understanding his argument very well. right?
bman16407 2 months ago
i live in birmingham and luke here, is an embarassment to us rational thinkers in this fine city.
fourbabies1 3 months ago 4
man i'd hate to see AronRa angry
v2099 3 months ago
Poor thing. It doesn't understand the world. Help it please.
MrG0TH1ER 3 months ago 3
Mat does a face palm.
halolIlmao0 3 months ago
1:28
Win.
cbenoit427 4 months ago
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9:18 FACEPALM!
pat5168 4 months ago
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"I don't understand where you got the idea where they could eat living cells before the Fall." Well you should be pretty fond of the book eh?
pat5168 4 months ago
"we can't eat rocks" I found that hilarious for some reason.
HHSmarchingfalcons 4 months ago
"Look, I'm surrounded by naked cheerleaders"
Joshuaxiong2 4 months ago
LMAO "Well thank you, I'm glad I got permission from Luke."
Joshuaxiong2 4 months ago
This guy doesn't understand that observing the symbiotic cycles of nature doesn't prove the existence of a God.
I think AronRa is a good influence on Matt. He is more patient and less explosive when Aron is on with him.
jmdnarri 4 months ago 3
"YOU'RE DONE!" - Matt Dillahunty
PirateOfTheInternet 5 months ago 3
@PirateOfTheInternet
lmao
Joshuaxiong2 4 months ago
One problem I have here is their use of the words "living cells", and also "killing". That a cell is a "living" organisme is simply a biological definition... I don't really consider a single cell a "living" being, even though I realize that it works with the biological definition.
TheTruggsess 5 months ago
@TheTruggsess I think you are mixing "living" with "sentient".
hanyuo 5 months ago 2
@hanyuo
Hmm... not really.
The point I'm trying to make is, that the biological definition of "living" is a bit random. If one of the rules for a "living" thing was "able to feel", then biology today wouldn't have a cell as the example of the smalest unite of life, but.. I don't know, the smallest creature with that particular ability.
I just think when you discuss storys that are that old you cannot argue with a definition that is as new as the biological definition of "life".
TheTruggsess 5 months ago
That was great, but I wish they had given Luke more time to explain his theories. But really, how much mush do you have to have for brains before nonsense like this not only makes sense but also becomes some kind of proof of a fantastical truth?
mahmoudyzadeh 5 months ago
Luke's entire argument boils down to a single statement. "Tide comes in, tide goes out.... you can't explain that!!"
skywize 6 months ago 3
Lmao @ AronRa's potato bit.
TheBiAtheist 6 months ago
@Tarynus One of them is too much for any theist already. [:
TheBiAtheist 6 months ago
@TheBiAtheist Together, there's no stopping them! X3
Tarynus 6 months ago
best show ever!
haveahorst 6 months ago 3
The caller sounds young. Soon he'll father kids and teach him this shit. "Facepalm".
lewisner 6 months ago 2
I just dont understand how anyone, no matter how hard they have this crap spoonfed and pounded into thier heads, could even believe it.
PageofLegend 6 months ago
@PageofLegend Fear of what would happen if you don't believe it: hell.
TheBiAtheist 6 months ago
@Akibadono
i didn't hear them scream or complain.
What we can observe is a reaction to physical stimulance, extreme ones like fire or cutting and whatever too, but its a bit far fetched to say "they feel pain"
realbojay 6 months ago
Ah,.. the power of the mighty non sequitur to fill one's lack of reason and the pillows of one's false securities.EG: Some girl gave me a wink at the library today, wow this sock in my front pocket must really be working.
crusty21 7 months ago
The best two on the show: Aron Ra and Matt.
SmilingSynic 7 months ago
I wonder how he'd have applied his "law of love" to the topic of microorganisms
redearthdoom 8 months ago
Hammertime !!! :-)
Xigano1 9 months ago
Actually, the Genesis story has God telling Adam & Eve & all the animals in the garden that they may eat all the plants except the tree of knowledge of good & evil. Also, most plants do not have to die to provide food for animals. It is not until after the big flood story that the bible has God telling humans they can eat both plants and animals. Don't get me wrong here. I believe this crap either but at least let's get the stories right.
Kailoa36 9 months ago
@Kailoa36 Errata: I don't believe this crap either but at least let's get the stories right.
Kailoa36 7 months ago
Theres something extremely funny to me about Aronra shouting "We can't eat rocks!" so seriously.
Ganahim 10 months ago 21
This is just the "Look at the trees!" argument in disguise.
animalcrosser591 11 months ago 38
Ah I dunno, Luke seems harmless and likeable enough.
Full of crap, sure. But not in a BAD way. I like altruists, so if he's really sincere about that, he gets a pass from me, and he should stick to his faith then, even if it is very silly.
TheSkunkCat 11 months ago
there is also the law of idiots and Luke is proof for that. so there must be a god that created idiots.
lhurien 11 months ago
The bible verse says "...you are free to eat...". God does not command man to eat or else they will die. So before the fall they did not have to eat, but they were free to eat for the enjoyment thereof. So their argument does not hold water. Except for all of the bible being bogus through and through, of course.
Speedable 11 months ago
@Speedable But he didn't say not to, thereby implying tacit consent. Mind you it is a fairy tale and I think that semantics are being taking WAY to seriously here. Still, to allow the hypothetical that Adam and Eve (humans) could survive without eating anything not only contradicts all medical biology, but indeed the laws of physics themselves. Such would make their bodies closed systems, ergo not the bodies of humans.
CommanderC4 11 months ago
Fuck these guys!!!
samweller96 11 months ago
i can see the frustrations in their faces
=. =
Triaxionality 11 months ago
"Luke, you're done." Haha.
capoman1 11 months ago
I can't think of two people who I would rather not argue with than Mat & Aronra. Luckily I'm in complete argreement you guys. Keep giving em hell!!
iaov 11 months ago
Religion rots your brain.
dutchbb1979 11 months ago
The guy is just not listening. It's frustrating.
BloodRedLegend 11 months ago
"congratulations Luke,you're done" LOL
mysterymediacorp 11 months ago 2
Why would God give the Cheetah fangs, claws, incredible speed, perception of depth, aggression, and a digestive system that can process meat, if he did not intend the Cheetah to hunt other animals? If God wanted us to only eat plants, then why would he give us the physical tools to eat meat? Was he stupid? Confused? A piss-poor engineer? Did he have a dark sense of humour? What was his reason? Law of Love = FAIL.
1955RodHot 1 year ago 2
Knowledge-of-Good-&-Evil Pie! My Favorite!
hardinmichael1981 1 year ago 3
@hardinmichael1981 Prefer Chicken & Mushroom myself 8-)
lewisner 1 year ago
So if an Antelope runs from the Cheetah chasing it, does that make the Antelope a sinner? Lol!
Vexille1983 1 year ago 2
Man, just looking at AronRa can intimidate you... S-Should I give him my lunch money?...
Dioblox1 1 year ago 2
@Dioblox1 Yes, please do. I'm tired of giving him mine!
kolonial72 1 year ago
@Dioblox1 lunch money?No. Your undying respect?Absolutely.
harkying99 1 year ago
Could Luke contradict himself a few more times????
ercvstr 1 year ago
Law of Love = unnecessary metaphor for natural processes.
GermanChocolateCake 1 year ago
Plants are alive too, sunshine. They are just easier to catch.
amphitrike 1 year ago
It's just so fucking painful listening to this guy. He doesn't even understand his own position, let alone what Matt and Aron are saying.
lowcomedy 1 year ago
Gravity: God loves us so much that he thought: I'm not just going to give you a ground to walk on but I'm going to tether you to it and pull you towards it even if you are 200 feet above it. God made our survival necessary on the possibility of falling and getting hurt, or dying, and a law that pisses many of us off (how many of you would LIKE, very much, to fly like superman?) I call that God an asshole!
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
God created all biological interactions out of love, from beneficial symbiosis, to horribly painful parasitism and predation, but being greedy in your interaction and throwing off the balance is sin? Well, thousands of species have been driven to extinction by other animals, are those animals sinners? There is no indication that all species were just popped into existence and have a right to their slice of the resource pie, that's not evolution. Only we do because we can enforce it.
MacabreManifesto 1 year ago
mr.ra has beautiful hair!
Unfjun 1 year ago
10:26 Satan's demonic laughter!
kirkey99 1 year ago
I'm voting Aron as the next Great Hitchens...I just hope Hitchens stay with us for a long time. Get well Hitchens!
kaox44 1 year ago
The I want to cuddle and kiss kittens and eat chocolate in heaven for all eternity religion.
JacksInn 1 year ago
@JacksInn Where does it say kittens and chocolate get to go to heaven?
suicune690 1 year ago
Pineconeboy
KingAsmodeus 1 year ago
Awesome video. When I'm in AronRa's age, I wanna be as cool as he is. :-)
siechtum 1 year ago
1:50-1:56 matts fucking playing solitare and destroying theism all at once
Account4TheMusic 1 year ago 5
i wish i was surrounded by naked cheerleaders.....
BWEEBLAST 1 year ago 7
Just video just proves that the USA doesn't have a monopoly on religious idiocy
ikkoikki 1 year ago 4
9:18
I facepalmed aswell
MrReasonFTW 1 year ago 2
Ahahaha. They demolished his argument, and then he says "Thank you, you proved my 'law' of love". WTF
rafaravioli 1 year ago
Adan and eve had ANAL SEX. THAT was the forbidden fruit.
leopower7 1 year ago 8
"LOOK! I'm surrounded by naked cheerleaders!" I so lolled ^^....mmmm....naked cheerleaders...*drool*
juuonse 1 year ago
you guys are so patient. omg.
jasontrail 1 year ago 92
@jasontrail Patience is a virtue (at least the Bible got that right)
DannyCreator91 1 year ago
@jasontrail
just another example of atheists giving delusional people a chance to justify their imaginary reality.
realbojay 6 months ago
Stupid VS.Stupid
machinedean100 1 year ago
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be freakin' scared of AronRa if he wasn't on our side!
UnderlordZ 1 year ago 5
@UnderlordZ
Haha don't worry. If in a parallel universe AronRa wasn't on our side, he would be stupid. XD
dycarbon1 1 year ago
I felt like Aronra was a bit overbearing in this argument. He was talking over him the whole time, it was hard to understand what he was saying.
mrbluesky323 1 year ago
@mrbluesky323 It's called a migraine.
OneEyeX 1 year ago
@mrbluesky323 Only because the caller was the kind of pain in the ass that doesn't shut his f*cking mouth UNTIL the hosts interrupt him.
UnderlordZ 1 year ago
@UnderlordZ
How would you know? The other guy barely gets a chance
mrbluesky323 1 year ago
@mrbluesky323 Even when he had his turn (and he DID), all he managed to do was spew out the same shit everyone's already heard a million times from every OTHER creationist. On top of that, what he did manage to get out, made absolutely no sense; the idiot had no idea what he was talking about.
UnderlordZ 1 year ago 3
@mrbluesky323
That's because his argument was weak and easily refuted..
jerico641 1 year ago
@jerico641 - AronRa has just become my favourite HITCHSLAPPER.
freakystyley4000 1 year ago 3
The caller really needs to brush up on basic high school science...whether theist or not-just some freakin' basic knowledge of the world he actually inhabits and affects him.
skeletonmom 1 year ago
Matt and AranRa, you have to love me...It's the law!!! ;)
me love you long time.... LMAO o_O
TILOTV 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation
- 'vegetarianism IS PROVEN to be a healthier diet'
it's not.
you need fat and protein to survive.
thats basic biology.
perhaps you could show me this proof also.
icameupwiththisname 1 year ago
- 'you are free to believe as you wish'
- 'well thank you!!! i'm glad i got permission from Luke'
icameupwiththisname 1 year ago
They really are fat and vegetarianism IS PROVEN to be a healthier diet and cuts the risk of cancers and heart disease.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
This guy sounds like some Islam fag...
IlovemyGlock21 1 year ago
@IlovemyGlock21
Sure does
in3x 1 year ago
Mmm... knowledge pie.
Jeridiculous 1 year ago
There's a parasitic wasp that will inject a larvae with paralysis venom and lay it's eggs into that larvae. Then the eggs will hatch and the wasps larvae will eat that larvae alive and because it's paralyzed it can't do a damn thing about it. Hows that for a "law of love"?
Spawnfreak 1 year ago
I don't know if there may be a language barrier? Not understanding a word can allow a person to believe he's not being heard?
truvelocity 1 year ago
Amazing how, when torn to fucking shreds by logic, science or rationality, the religious will always say "Well that's fine. You are totally free to believe what you want to believe." which is nothing more than a statement of I can't win because i'm full of shit
sum1otosh1 1 year ago
@sum1otosh1 Personally, I always found that phrase to be hollow and disingenuous. The religious doesn't think we have the right "to believe what you want to believe." Not when his religion decrees that those who don't not pass theological muster will be punished forever, or worse, need to be sent there by the faithful.
AmericanCurmudgeon 1 year ago
Matt, Aron, thread:
Has anyone realised that Law Of Love = LOL ?
Anyone?
Just me then?
XOMG I WIN THE INTERNETS :D
mandrellian 1 year ago 141
@mandrellian You DO win the internets!
GermanChocolateCake 1 year ago
@mandrellian You do win.
alienlifeform11 9 months ago
Aron looks like he's in a Metal band. And it's probably called "Godless" or something like that.
numbierwun 1 year ago
AronRa is so cool lol
DarwinAwardsInc 1 year ago
If he believes God created the so called "law of love", and also created all the animals/plants in their current configuration and the relationships between the various species, then god created animals dependant on giving (symbiosis), like bees and flowers to plants producing O2 and animals CO2 and god also created animals which are dependant upon killing others to survive, parasites, predators etc. This is all very exhaustive there is no law this is a load of sht and a waste of time. wow.....
1mb0123d 1 year ago
This guy´s accent is giving me a headache.
bfahren 1 year ago
@bfahren English (as in British) + Pakistani/Indian or other sub-continental Asian would be my guess.
mandrellian 1 year ago
I was kinda hoping to hear AronRa's answer to "Give me an example of life that can live without giving."
JamesJimRaynor 1 year ago
@JamesJimRaynor
well Mr. Starcraft, one example off the top of my head would be tape worms, or any member of the parasite family, i dunno just a guess, tell kerrigan i said hi!!!!!!!
xd1rtx 1 year ago
The hosts on this show need to be able to mute callers so that they don't have to shout them into silence long enough to speak.
mrdarkavocado 1 year ago
good lord I enjoyed that one!
redshiftexperiment 1 year ago
they are basically saying shut up let us talk, they have failed
ih8ureally 1 year ago
What morons...Who would argue or try to reason with fools? The Fool hath said in his heart that there is no God... The look on these guys faces, when their knee bows to Jesus will be etched for eternity...
preach319 1 year ago
@preach319 You will live forever, praising your god for eternity. You should be very happy. I am.
timrice666 1 year ago
@timrice666 I like your post, except for one thing, my God is spelled with a capital G. atheists are often intimidated by the capital G, so out of respect, I like to just call him by the name of Jesus! That live forever thing you mentioned has a nice ring to it, doesn't it.... Too bad some will never experience it, but there is still hope that some will be converted and find salvation in Christ, but most have already been turned over to a reprobate mind, atheist is such a sad word.....
preach319 1 year ago
@preach319 "That live forever thing you mentioned has a nice ring to it, doesn't it...."
Yeah, almost like desperate and scared people made it up to make themselves and others feel good. "Too bad some will never experience it."
Probably nobody will. About all we *know* contradicts with it, only belief supports it.
Plopkap 1 year ago
@timrice666 I'm not afraid of letters capital or otherwise. We only know for sure that there is one life so enjoy'have fun and I would ask you to consider what eternal "life" in heaven worshipping God/god/gods would be like, I'm glad there is no afterlife, it would be hell wherever you ended up. Be happy and accept reality.
timrice666 1 year ago
@preach319
you realize calling people fools is a direct line to hell according to your book, right?
pyr666 1 year ago
@pyr666 I realize that it's the fool that saith in his heart, that there is no God.... That is according to God's Word. That's cut and dried.... The verse you are talking about is a totally different scripture, and we must rightly divide the Word of God, to have understanding of it. Since you call it my book, you make it clear that you don't have any understanding of it. If you get your understanding of God's Word, from atheist such as these two morons, you are pretty foolish yourself.....
preach319 1 year ago
@preach319
can't deal with the contradiction so you come after me. bravo.
and again, you condemn yourself according to the bible. have fun with that ^,^
pyr666 1 year ago
i hate these rambling callers that just spout their BS without talking to the ppl on the line.
serioush 1 year ago 2
"Meat eating atheists" LOL ...
Do you know that recent studies show that the brain of the old primates started to grow in a manner that got completely different to others animals brains when those primates started to eat meat in big quantities?
Atheist conclussion: Eating meat was an important step to become humans.
Christian conclussion: God wanted those creatures to kill and eat a lot of meat to become humans, his favourites and loved pets.
roner61 1 year ago
this sounds like Hamza Andreas Tzortzis. lool
philosage 1 year ago
Why is it that the most religious individuals who display the most certitude in their convictions seem to have the LEAST amount of working knowledge of their own faith?
Diomedes01 1 year ago
Brilliant. Great work. I think you may have had him with the pen falling. Unfortunately using analogies is sometimes the only way to bring otherwise good wording into what someone can understand. You should have continued saying that the pen falling is prof of mother earth wanting us to be closer to her. That's as much proof as he was providing.
adseguy 1 year ago
@adseguy Being close to the earth is exactly what God wants... soooo it makes sense.
JustListenFool 1 year ago
You don't have to quote the verse the Christian enthusiast pretends isn't there. The audience who's familiar with the Bible knows its there. He's simply throwing up any roadblock to the argument, including dishonesty itself.
When you've identified dishonesty as part of a person's method of argument, the conversation is over. It is sheer flattery to pretend for a moment that the arguer has faith.
When an atheist has to tell you what's in your own Bible, you're not reading it.
highwind8124 1 year ago
OMG this poor guy!
cloaknpoke 1 year ago
AronRa. I don't know why but to look upon you is to look upon evil. I don't bleieve in any mythological crap but if there was a satan, I can only imagine you'd look just like it.
I love you AronRa.
notabook 1 year ago
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You fucking meat-eating atheists. You're supposed to believe in science. Don't you know what fucking nervous systems are. Don't you know that animals feel pain through their nervous system, and plants, lacking nervous systems, do not? You fat fucking meat-eating heathenous motherfuckers.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation Are you christian? so why do you abuse of the word "fucking"?
contradictory...as all in the religion.
Im really afraid of religious people responses...are the most violent ones.
roner61 1 year ago
@roner61 Logically, that's an inadequate response, not to mention an ad hominem attack on religion, and an argumentum ad ridiculum. What matters is that I am a vegetarian, and when he says death is what we depend on to exist, that's just bullshit and ambiguous, depending on whether you define death as the process of no longer thriving in a functioning organic process, or as loss of a conscious organism endowed with nerves.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation It's very clear..plants and animals are both living creatures of course they have their differances but that has nothing to do w/ the circle of: life lives by killing this is something we have known for 60,000+ years.
Correct you being vegetarian matters, but only to yourself. As you are the most important consciousness to yourself the same as I'm the most important consciousness to myself ad infinitum.
cloaknpoke 1 year ago
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@cloaknpoke Are you an atheist?
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation oh sweet jebus, a moron! life is not simply defined as 'organic process' (do you even know what that is? lol!). Plants are as much alive as are microbes and animals. yes, there are physiological differences among those groups, but they're all alive! And that proves god - how?
xBuscopanx 1 year ago
@xBuscopanx I didn't even mention god, and wasn't trying to prove his existence. Did you watch the video? Are you going to argue and say that plants can feel pain. Fuck, you're an idiot.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation I nowhere said plants were feeling pain. Neither was it claimed in the video. However plants are still living beings. You're still a moron.
xBuscopanx 1 year ago 2
@xBuscopanx If you want to argue semantics, then yes, plants are living beings. I'm not arguing on behalf of that idiot luke, but he said we depend on death to survive, I was just saying it depends on whether you consider death to be the end of a conscious life or the death of any form of life.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation Ahaha! Plants being alive is not an issue of semantics, your 'logic' is. Keep redefining things if it makes you happy! Are you telling me people in coma are not alive? Or embryos? Or jellyfish? :D Dude, I'm done with you!
btw you might also want to look up the actual biology: cells = alive, "organic processes" (whatever that is, maybe you refer to biochemistry) = not alive.
xBuscopanx 1 year ago
@xBuscopanx I was referring to the phrase "living being" when talking about semantics. Do you even know what semantics means? And you're fucking retarded. Go google, literally, "Organic Process Definition". I never said any of those things weren't alive btw.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation you're the retarded one. "Organic process" can be a process catalyzed by living beings or a reaction of organic compounds, which doesn't need a living being to take place. So your throwing around of sciency words doesn't really mean anything.
You said non-conscious life is not really life. By that definition comatose people, embryos and jellyfish are not alive so stfu.
xBuscopanx 1 year ago
@xBuscopanx Organic Process: A process occurring in living organisms.
No, Comatose people have a nervous system. They are unconscious, not permanently non-conscious. Zygotes develope a nervous system after eight weeks, before that they are just a bundle of cells.
Stfu, lick a bible then go an hero yourself.
Or just learn some aboot biology.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation lol I turn that back on you. The definition of life is not 'having a nervous system' , basta.
xBuscopanx 1 year ago
@xBuscopanx "The end of life of an organism or cell. In humans and animals, death is manifested by the permanent cessation of vital organic functions, including the absence of heartbeat, spontaneous breathing, and brain activity."
I didn't say life was having a nervous system you stupid troll.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation that's what you're constantly implying. Go read your own comments. Getting angry at your own inconsistency? lol Nothing of this really contributes to the discussion, so good-bye! :D
xBuscopanx 1 year ago
@xBuscopanx I'm not inconsistent, you just continually try to paraphrase me for things I didn't say, so I must continue clarifying for you. You're a stupid monkey, go fetch a banana.
bigevilcorporation 1 year ago
@bigevilcorporation
Yes you were inconsistent...you made a claim that didn't meet the burden of proof you needed it to as to make your argument and the implications of that argument true.
You did nothing but spew a bunch of infantile non-sense because the ideas in this video offended your frail religious sensibilities. You are arrogant and stubborn because you hold a beleif that you yourself cannot fathom and thus become hostile in face of evidence you cannot beleive because you are forbiden.
LHswe 1 year ago