Napoléon III fut un des plus grands dirigeants de notre pays. Son corps est indissociable de notre pays, quand le ramènera-t'on enfin sur le sol de la Patrie ?
@LostRed33 I know of Godwin's law... it's strange how accurate it is. I mean, Napoleon III to Adolf Hitler? Odd. Also, they failed quite heavily with that image of being scary by putting flies on a flag, haha!
@jacarradicefrench They aren't supposed to be flies. The flag looks slightly incorrect in this regard. They should be bees on the flag. The reason why is because the bees are the symbol of the Imperial Bonaparte family.
@unfukkkmee Hitler was a jew, he was self loathing because he thought all jews were horrible people who are abusive and beat their children just because his father did, and Great Stalin, the only man greater than Napolèon, was no fascist, he was totalitarian, and an autocrat, which is a dictator, he was Generalissimo of the USSR, Generalissimo is another name for dictator, but stalin hated fascists he was not one, and napoleon was... i believe catholic.. yea catholic.
"Partant pour la Syrie" was never officially the National Anthem even during the bad time of Empire (first or second) in France !! Just a popular song !
Their bees, Napoleon III and copied the heraldry of the Merovingian Frankish kings as the "Fleur-de-lis" were associated with the unpopular Bourbon kings.
@NanKingRaddish In their stories, all the nations of the world have been invaded at least once. Is not this a valid reason for not appreciating these countries? I saw you are a Singaporean. In the past, this country has been invaded by the British and Japanese. Yet like a true patriot, I think it will not prevent you to love singapore. I think it's even more reason to love his country because it is adversity that we recognize his greatness
Koening0726: Vive México!!, qui fue le premier pays dans le mond en derroter ton empire de merd !!! une cose je en accord avec toi:: mort a le republicanisme !!
@MaestroFire Symbole d'immortalité et de résurrection, les abeilles sont choisies afin de rattacher la nouvelle dynastie aux origines de la France. En effet, des abeilles d'or (en réalité des cigales) avaient été découvertes en 1653 à Tournai dans le tombeau de Childéric Ier, fondateur en 457 de la dynastie mérovingienne et père de Clovis. Elles sont considérées comme le plus ancien emblème des souverains de la France.
@MagistrateOIFY This not the same here ^^ It's Napoleon III, he built Paris and reach Britanic power. But he loosed against prussia. AND NO NAPOLEON DID NOT RUINED FRANCE ! Watch how was France in middle of the revolution. Englishpeople don't like him because he stopped english power to invade France in Revolution Time. The reality is he finished french construction: 86% of our laws today comes from Napoleonic policy. That's proves he wasn't a tyran as english always said. Yes he made wars, and?
@VincetheFrogophil k u need to get ur facts straight: Paris had already been built. he did not lose against prussia; rather he put too much effort into waterloo. IN RUSSIA. how france was in middle of revolution? well how was it BEFORE the revolution... your argument has no value. stopped english power to invade? NO ONE WAS GONNA INVADE FRANCE except potential promonarchy hungarian threats. didnt finish construction, and no; laws r not based on him. richard lee and hammurabi, ya. and bible :|
@USAPatriot86 Napoleon I to kick the ass of everyone. It is nature at its kick ass (and cold seas of Russia). Napoleon III to beat Russia and Austria.
@ComeOnBritain no don't waste your time to search british victories during the last years of the 100Y war because you loose all of them, that's why france won the 100Y war, they kick the brits ass out of france.
(THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796). Republican v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The society for Propagating the Gospel & c. v. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles Untitled 24 2006 3 12 21 47 9:47 PM of Association October 20, 1774.
@ComeOnBritain No, the U.S. is now a federal state like Germany or Russia. The UK no longer has any impact, however it is rather that the UK today following the U.S.. The British should follow Europe and agree with the French and the Germans ...
@ComeOnBritain This is a great country, its history is much greater than the USA, but now the U.S. dominate the world, and soon it will be China and a more distant future India.
I should also add that the will of the people OUTSIDE of Paris, in the vast majority of France, was that of monarchy ruled by the ancient house of Hugh the Caped. This is why the Revolutionary Government did as much as they could to centralise everything into Paris and to ruin what was an intensely diverse realm, so everyone could be one culture and one identity in the new Republic. This is why the revolt in the Vendee is so famous.
Louis XVI attempted financial reform, was willing to lose his absolute authority to become a constitutional monarch, listened and died by his subjects will, and at no point attempted to fight or kill his subjects. That was his personal oath, and he never betrayed it. But was he a good King? We say no, because it is that lack of fighting that cost him and the Bourbons the throne. Much in the same way, Napoleon III may be a good *person*, but a good leader requires often a *bad* person.
Napoleon III picked off where his uncle left off and changed the face of France, which he made a great power again (not least by building a great navy). Even his enemies admitted that the people stayed loyal to him well after his death, despite all the propaganda to eradicate him from their hearts and memories. Hence good man, great leader.
the bees are the ancient symbol of the merovingians and charlemagne! napoleon Ist wanted a heraldic symbol that wasn't the same as the old (bourbon) french monarchy, the fleur-de-lis, so he reached back 1,000 years to the symbol of charlemagne and the TRUE "first french empire".
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It's funny, Napoleon was dieing to legitimise himself in the eyes of the monarchy's of Europe, and instead just made an even bigger mockery of his inept family.
The two principal emblems of the First and Second Empires are the Imperial Eagle and Bees. The fleur-de-lys was the emblem of the Capetians, the Valois and the Bourbons.
Yes, the Bonaparte's attempts at making themselves seem legitimate in the eyes of monarchy's across Europe, by adding the legendary Merovingian and Carolingian bee's to their personal standards.. I'm sorry, but it's all very amusing to me. The Bonaparte's have no more right to any throne than I do.
@PurePerfection No need to say you're sorry, it's very amusing to the rest of us how you can claim that a dynasty with no other justification than hereditary transmission is "legitimate".
Both the First and Second Empire were founded on the will of the people. The Bourbons lost their throne because they neglected the same principle. Kings were elected a long time before thrones started becoming hereditary. The bee predates the Frankish kings (Ancient Egypt)
Do you honestly believe Napoleon and his family at all cared for the will of the people? The French only love Napoleon because he started an empire.. They forget the fact he was anti-revolutionary in the exact same sense Louis XVIII and Charles X was, but for different reasons. The Revolution, as much as I may insult it, had principles. Napoleon and his ilk had none. They merely were replacing the old aristocracy with a new aristocracy, and that's what led to their downfall. It pleased nobody.
The French love Napoleon because he preserved what was best in the Old Regime and what was best in the new. The nobility of the Empire was based on service to the Nation, which was the original basis for the old nobility... as opposed to heredity. Marshal Lefebvre summed it up when he defended his title as Duke of Dantzig "You are only a descendant, but I am an ancestor !"
The original basis of the old nobility was NOT any service to the nation, nations are as artificial and invented as hereditary aristocracy's. The old nobility was built around loyalty and service to the King, of which they betrayed in the Revolution, but this was also a late consequence of the end of feudalism. Following Louis XIV, the nobility became useless and restless. This isn't feudalism's fault, but the fact a nobility that was meant to be a warrior aristocracy, and Louis XIV changed this
Their service to the king was on the principle that he was the incarnation of the nation. Hence Louis XV's mistress calling him "France" even when they were in bed together !
Nationalism, the idea of the nation above all, is a recent concept. This is why for so long Kings styled themselves as "King of the Franks", "King of the French" and "King of the English". The time of which you speak is when the idea of a nation indeed becomes more important, but again I must stress that the nobility had been neutered and made useless by Louis XIV.
If you subjugate your former warrior-leader class to sit idly around the Kings court all day, playing games and gossiping, rather than fighting or even so simple as them scheming in foreign affairs for higher status, of course the system becomes unbalanced. Feudalism was neutered to benefit absolute monarchy.
The social constructs of ones nation is no more valid, selfish or legitimate than somebody fighting for his family or dynasty as the nobility and monarchys across Europe had done since the fall of the Roman Empire. Even today, people only love their nations history based off of selfish reasons, relating usually to family, ones position and lot in life, or even as simple as they were born there, so therefore it MUST be the best nation on earth. This is why I find Napoleon's system so odd.
It combined two systems that aren't meant to co-exist with each other. There's no such thing as a meritocracy as is, so certainly an aristocracy based purely on the artificial idea of "merit" is a preposterous idea, and this is why there are more proper monarchists than Bonapartists.
And on what grounds did the kings you mention grant titles if not on merit ? And there are more Bonapartists than monarchists, because Bonapartism is based on principles (see "Idées Napoléoniennes" for example) and not just attachment to a dynasty.
Titles were often granted for selfish reasons, to close relatives, in much the same way the Bonaparte dynasty stumbles into Spain. The lowest of nobility could come from all strands of society, yes. And following the black plague, in England especially (such as the Paston family in Norfolk), peasants would come to high titles. But this is a rarity, as one would have to truly go above and beyond to be awarded a truly prestigious hereditary title.
It may seem as if I'm criticizing this, but I'm rather acknowledging that inequality is a basic faucet of life, no matter what government you live in. In this so called glorious and free American Republic, most of the politicians come from rich families, which is how they have the opportunity to rise to such heights in the first place. Your birth class often except in the most exceptional of cases indicates how far you can go in life, "Meritocracy" or otherwise.
Joseph was chosen as king of Spain so that the dynasty in Spain would be tied by blood to the dynasty in France, Italy, Bavaria, Westphalia etc etc. The idea being to unite Europe's ruling families and end the war. That's not selfish.
And I don't agree that the kings gave titles mostly to relatives. Unless you think that all those who rendered important services to the Crown were related to the king.
Chosen by who? The French? Why is the campaign in Spain so legendary, the genocide so famous? You can argue all you want that the idea of Bonaparte's in Spain were defeated by reactionary monarchists, but these same monarchists refused to allow what was a relatively stable monarchy (save the meddling by Louis XIV years earlier) to be replaced by Bonapartism. If you disagree with what the Spanish were fighting for, that's fine. But just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true.
Napoleon III was a fool ...
dunedain101 1 week ago
why are there gold bugs on the flag?
natureman494 1 month ago
@natureman494 the bee was the personal symbol of the Bonaparte dynasty
axelfalk1 2 weeks ago
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unfukkkmee 1 month ago
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What is the name of this song?
SantaFe19484 1 month ago
Too bad the otherwise nice flag was ruined by a bug infestation.
YDdraigGoch22 1 month ago
@YDdraigGoch22 XD it's not bugs
Eristof260 1 week ago
@Eristof260 I know
YDdraigGoch22 1 week ago
Fuck the expansionist Napoleon III and his empire...
Tezcatlepocatl 4 months ago
@Tezcatlepocatl Why?Napoleon was not evil.
kyuubisharinan3296 2 months ago
@kyuubisharinan3296
even napoleon was a human
Oesterreich1156 2 months ago
@Tezcatlepocatl what a mestizo know about Bonapartism?
VandeeArmagnac 2 months ago
@VandeeArmagnac
I know absolute regimes with expansionist imperialist ambitions and policies are evil and unsustainable.
Tezcatlepocatl 2 months ago
@Tezcatlepocatl it seems that also Pancho Villa has a very bloody methods, don't you? Same for your aztec ancestors who conquers toltech
VandeeArmagnac 2 months ago
10000 times better than the marseilles.
just look at the lyrics of the current hymn, unbelievable what they're singing !
Oesterreich1156 4 months ago
@Oesterreich1156 clense France of the unpure blood? whats wrong with that :P
Maetel22 4 months ago
Napoleon 3 really should clean his flag once.... It is full of bugs!
MaestroFire 5 months ago 2
France invaded by bugs..... this is my dream
mercedesSlk666 5 months ago
spiders!?
BastardsBusters 5 months ago
bugspray somewhere ?
Oesterreich1156 5 months ago in playlist NABO
Looks like we must clean the flag to clean of those bees!
TheTomatoHater 6 months ago
This flag need more bees!
Mullahgrrl 6 months ago
Shut up comeon,the French won
beatlesfan18361 6 months ago
Napoléon III fut un des plus grands dirigeants de notre pays. Son corps est indissociable de notre pays, quand le ramènera-t'on enfin sur le sol de la Patrie ?
QingdaoWonsan 7 months ago
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Napoleon III = loser
Luftwaffe1941 8 months ago
Why does everyone regress to Nazism?
Anyway, can I ask a question... why are there flies on the flag?
jacarradicefrench 9 months ago
@jacarradicefrench 1. Godwin's law
2. To try and convince people that France was still scary. Didn't work too well
LostRed33 8 months ago
@LostRed33 I know of Godwin's law... it's strange how accurate it is. I mean, Napoleon III to Adolf Hitler? Odd. Also, they failed quite heavily with that image of being scary by putting flies on a flag, haha!
jacarradicefrench 8 months ago
@jacarradicefrench They aren't supposed to be flies. The flag looks slightly incorrect in this regard. They should be bees on the flag. The reason why is because the bees are the symbol of the Imperial Bonaparte family.
catalystleader 7 months ago
Poland will rise in the pact- Adolf Hitler
beatlesfan18361 9 months ago
LOL, are those like, gold-coloured insects on the flag?
Killybillee 9 months ago
I really like these videos with the anthems and the flags!
Am I allowed to ask (and probably I am not the first to bother you with this) what program do you use to make the flags wave?
Thank you!
PokeKITT2000 10 months ago
That flag is bugging me! :D
Ascensiam 10 months ago
Kingdom not republic ore empire!
wallentin76 11 months ago
HELLENIC BROTHERS OF CORICA AND MARSEILLE
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
Someone should really shoo the bees off the flag. ;)
KaiserJames 1 year ago
Get them off of me! Ahhhhhhhhh!
AquariaSpirit 1 year ago
GOD BLESS THE NAPOLEON AFTER THE BETTER KNOWN NAPOLEON OF THE FIRST EMPIRE!
Jack10000115 1 year ago 5
@Jack10000115 napoleon 1 WAS JEW,,,,,,,,,,
unfukkkmee 11 months ago
@unfukkkmee and you sir are a Nazi, now go to hell where you belong you nazi pig
Jack10000115 10 months ago
@Jack10000115 ΝΑΖΙS WAS JEWS ALSO THE STALIN WAS MOST FASCIST OF EARTH
unfukkkmee 10 months ago
@unfukkkmee Hitler was a jew, he was self loathing because he thought all jews were horrible people who are abusive and beat their children just because his father did, and Great Stalin, the only man greater than Napolèon, was no fascist, he was totalitarian, and an autocrat, which is a dictator, he was Generalissimo of the USSR, Generalissimo is another name for dictator, but stalin hated fascists he was not one, and napoleon was... i believe catholic.. yea catholic.
Jack10000115 10 months ago
@Jack10000115 STALIN WAS BIGGEST FASCIST OF EARTH AND napoleon or stalin ARE NOT great. THEY BOTH ARE 2 JEWS NOTHING MORE
unfukkkmee 10 months ago
@Jack10000115 hitler was not jew xD i love israel and like jews but how do you say that who killed 6 millions of jews was jew?
breizhcatalonia1993 10 months ago
@breizhcatalonia1993 hitler was a jew
esc4all 9 months ago
@esc4all Hitler was NOT Jewish, he had Jewish Relatives and Ancestory, Yet he said he was Roman Catholic.
DuPuieproductions 9 months ago
@DuPuieproductions not roman catholic. protestant. some say he was an occultist.
Jilktube 9 months ago
@Jack10000115 Look up "Mouvement Bonapartiste" on Facebook ;)
NapoleonCalland 2 months ago
coolest french flag ever!
megakillerx 1 year ago 15
@megakillerx
It was not the french flag but the Imperial Standard of Napoléon III
xgentis 6 months ago
napoleon the third was one of the greatest leaders of the french people he had the balls to invade the german empire in 1871
natureman494 1 year ago
"Partant pour la Syrie" was never officially the National Anthem even during the bad time of Empire (first or second) in France !! Just a popular song !
CookCpt 1 year ago
why are there Spiders?! is this Fake?
FullMetalJacket47 1 year ago
@FullMetalJacket47
Their bees, Napoleon III and copied the heraldry of the Merovingian Frankish kings as the "Fleur-de-lis" were associated with the unpopular Bourbon kings.
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 year ago
@FullMetalJacket47 Bees. They became associcated with Napoleon 1st and Napoleon 3rd
ConsulHibernia 11 months ago
W-What are that things on the flag? Spiders?
mercedesSlk666 1 year ago
This song is about french crusaders in Syria
vidman163 1 year ago
@NanKingRaddish In their stories, all the nations of the world have been invaded at least once. Is not this a valid reason for not appreciating these countries? I saw you are a Singaporean. In the past, this country has been invaded by the British and Japanese. Yet like a true patriot, I think it will not prevent you to love singapore. I think it's even more reason to love his country because it is adversity that we recognize his greatness
Koenig0726 1 year ago
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Napoleon III and France were beaten by Germany
Luftwaffe1941 1 year ago
This is spider! ><
PolskaSlava 1 year ago
@PolskaSlava
It's bees moron.
SickMze 1 year ago
@SickMze No,this is spider's!
PolskaSlava 1 year ago
@PolskaSlava it's bees, it's the symbol of napoleon, look on wikipedia
Rostokouban 1 year ago
Viv la France W D'Orleans
locandaitaliana 1 year ago
thats one spotty flag, Dalmatian heil!
sabaton1231 1 year ago
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Vive la France !!
Fière d'être Français.
tiFrelon 1 year ago
Who would ever put cockroaches on a flag?
LineaGotica91 1 year ago
@LineaGotica91 lol
nightwish1000 1 year ago
Koening0726: Vive México!!, qui fue le premier pays dans le mond en derroter ton empire de merd !!! une cose je en accord avec toi:: mort a le republicanisme !!
Tombosadic 1 year ago
all those golden ants on the flag.....
MaestroFire 1 year ago
@MaestroFire bees not ants .Des abeilles et non des fourmis!
vitiking 1 year ago
@vitiking English please. it doesnt really look like bees.
MaestroFire 1 year ago
@MaestroFire Avant de raconter des inepties apprenez l 'histoire , ce sont des abeilles
vitiking 1 year ago
@vitiking I DONT understand French, ENGLISH please!
MaestroFire 1 year ago
@MaestroFire Symbole d'immortalité et de résurrection, les abeilles sont choisies afin de rattacher la nouvelle dynastie aux origines de la France. En effet, des abeilles d'or (en réalité des cigales) avaient été découvertes en 1653 à Tournai dans le tombeau de Childéric Ier, fondateur en 457 de la dynastie mérovingienne et père de Clovis. Elles sont considérées comme le plus ancien emblème des souverains de la France.
vitiking 1 year ago
@MaestroFire My english is not good enough to translate so please ask someone to help you it 's not very difficult to understand
vitiking 1 year ago
Napoleon III was a good emperor !!
Tony2eb 1 year ago 5
@Tony2eb He also liked bees
TheTomatoHater 5 months ago
@Tony2eb his uncle was better
TLshadow1997 4 months ago
Vive le bonapartisme!!!!!
jacopovannucchi 1 year ago 3
Gloire à Napoléon III !
MrJojopop 1 year ago 3
LOL I love the bugs.. Very intimadating. British > French.
SirUtahn 1 year ago
@SirUtahn
The bee was the chosen symbol of Napoleon. You know, the one it took you 7 times to beat. Yeah, that one.
CEShannVfB 1 year ago
Sedan......????
Ahahahahahahahahaha Heil Hoenzollern!!!!
FreiherrHarkonnen 1 year ago 3
hahahahahahaha, bloody funny mate!
MathiusK408 1 year ago
I do really prefer Napoleon I than Louis Napoleon.
glishev 1 year ago
vive napoléon III le grand vive l,empereur
tisseyre100 1 year ago 11
@tisseyre100 napoleon ruined france with his insane wars!
MagistrateOIFY 5 months ago
@MagistrateOIFY This not the same here ^^ It's Napoleon III, he built Paris and reach Britanic power. But he loosed against prussia. AND NO NAPOLEON DID NOT RUINED FRANCE ! Watch how was France in middle of the revolution. Englishpeople don't like him because he stopped english power to invade France in Revolution Time. The reality is he finished french construction: 86% of our laws today comes from Napoleonic policy. That's proves he wasn't a tyran as english always said. Yes he made wars, and?
VincetheFrogophil 5 months ago
@VincetheFrogophil k u need to get ur facts straight: Paris had already been built. he did not lose against prussia; rather he put too much effort into waterloo. IN RUSSIA. how france was in middle of revolution? well how was it BEFORE the revolution... your argument has no value. stopped english power to invade? NO ONE WAS GONNA INVADE FRANCE except potential promonarchy hungarian threats. didnt finish construction, and no; laws r not based on him. richard lee and hammurabi, ya. and bible :|
GDarkGoombaG 5 months ago
@MagistrateOIFY Obama is not doing wars? Is he ruining US ? :p Stop your false arguments.
VincetheFrogophil 5 months ago
obama is ruining the US
MagistrateOIFY 5 months ago
@MagistrateOIFY he ruins US as did US since FED creation. It's like France and euro.
VincetheFrogophil 5 months ago
The origin of the bees on the flag is that ornamental golden bees were found in the Merovingian Frankish king Childeric's tomb,
mango2005 1 year ago
I like my women how I like my Imperial flags!
Mullahgrrl 1 year ago
@Mullahgrrl Choking blue, dead pale and bloody red, decorated with gold trim?... interesting tastes...
alphamax03 1 year ago
@alphamax03 covered in bees!
Mullahgrrl 1 year ago
since 1879
DuseikaLT 1 year ago
God bless Napoleon III!
byzantinecaesar 2 years ago 33
Here Here!
Napoleon5005 2 years ago
God bless Napoleon? He was a fucking insane shrimp who got his ass kicked by everyone!
USAPatriot86 8 months ago
@USAPatriot86 Napoleon I to kick the ass of everyone. It is nature at its kick ass (and cold seas of Russia). Napoleon III to beat Russia and Austria.
CameOnFrance 7 months ago
How about the British? No.
USAPatriot86 7 months ago
We british kicked your ass around for ages... barring 1066.
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
@ComeOnBritain - You must also note the Hundred Years' War and the Napoleonic Wars prior to 1808.
jacarradicefrench 7 months ago
britain won the 100 years war.
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
@ComeOnBritain Oo ?? lol, castillon, formigny and bordeau are maybe the 3 last great british victories ?
krixx691 7 months ago
Nah. We have had MANY more.
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
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@ComeOnBritain no don't waste your time to search british victories during the last years of the 100Y war because you loose all of them, that's why france won the 100Y war, they kick the brits ass out of france.
krixx691 7 months ago
@ComeOnBritain It's strange, in 1781, we French, we have defeated in the Battle of the Bay of Chesspeake, the U.S. is born with this defeat ...
Not too disappointed, British?
CameOnFrance 7 months ago
Hey, hey, hey... We talked about this. We had a truce!
And not really as the UK still has the US under control. (The United States is a corporation. Not a country.)
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
@ComeOnBritain What? The UK still controls the U.S.? Nooooooooooooooo!
You are still living in 1775!
CameOnFrance 7 months ago
(THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796). Republican v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The society for Propagating the Gospel & c. v. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles Untitled 24 2006 3 12 21 47 9:47 PM of Association October 20, 1774.
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
@ComeOnBritain No, the U.S. is now a federal state like Germany or Russia. The UK no longer has any impact, however it is rather that the UK today following the U.S.. The British should follow Europe and agree with the French and the Germans ...
CameOnFrance 7 months ago
The UK, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a great country. Don't even THINK about comparing it to the US.
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
@ComeOnBritain This is a great country, its history is much greater than the USA, but now the U.S. dominate the world, and soon it will be China and a more distant future India.
CameOnFrance 7 months ago
I find it hard to believe, we have more money than them. In fact, ''Apple'' (The phone company.) have more money!
ComeOnBritain 7 months ago
@CameOnFrance Perhaps. Who knows what the future holds.
Vraya 7 months ago
@CameOnFrance Too bad he couldn't hold back the Germans in the Franco-Prussian War
AssualtgruppeVeir 6 months ago
i thought french anthem was la marseillaise since the first empire.............
robasci00 2 years ago 4
@robasci00 no it was not
cmpFRANCE93 1 year ago
Vive l'empereur des Francais!
PhilipineMan 2 years ago 10
Bugspray someone?
NLFonsseals 2 years ago 25
Yeah, I don't get it, whats with the bees?
5B0YAKASHA5 2 years ago
@5B0YAKASHA5
Bee's are a symbol of the Bonaparte family.
lamnaa 1 year ago
@lamnaa is it because they are small and rather annoying by any chance?
GusPlayer94 1 year ago
@GusPlayer94
Ha, no I think it's just because Bonaparte starts with a B, and Corsicans like weak puns.
lamnaa 1 year ago 2
@GusPlayer94 That just made my day.
TheCursedChosen1 1 year ago
Napoleon III was democraticaly elected in 1848 and peoPle wanted an emperor
DuseikaLT 2 years ago
I should also add that the will of the people OUTSIDE of Paris, in the vast majority of France, was that of monarchy ruled by the ancient house of Hugh the Caped. This is why the Revolutionary Government did as much as they could to centralise everything into Paris and to ruin what was an intensely diverse realm, so everyone could be one culture and one identity in the new Republic. This is why the revolt in the Vendee is so famous.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
Louis XVI attempted financial reform, was willing to lose his absolute authority to become a constitutional monarch, listened and died by his subjects will, and at no point attempted to fight or kill his subjects. That was his personal oath, and he never betrayed it. But was he a good King? We say no, because it is that lack of fighting that cost him and the Bourbons the throne. Much in the same way, Napoleon III may be a good *person*, but a good leader requires often a *bad* person.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
Napoleon III picked off where his uncle left off and changed the face of France, which he made a great power again (not least by building a great navy). Even his enemies admitted that the people stayed loyal to him well after his death, despite all the propaganda to eradicate him from their hearts and memories. Hence good man, great leader.
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
yes, Napoleon III lost war against Prussia in 1870, but germans lost two world wars. war fortune...
DuseikaLT 2 years ago 3
The best moment of the Second French Empire was when Napolean III surrendered his sword
Luftwaffe1941 2 years ago
And when the German Empire laughed their asses off while they crowned their emperor in Versaille as the French collapsed.
MessiahComing 2 years ago
Without Napoleon III Italy could not have independence from Osterreich.
He was a great man, like all the Bonapartefamily
LarryScottBB 2 years ago 9
But he was also responsible for the final move which created the German Empire.
MessiahComing 2 years ago
yes,Napoleon III was one of the creatos of modern europe (directly or not XD).
Also gives Savoy and Nice to France from Italy
LarryScottBB 2 years ago 7
the bees are the ancient symbol of the merovingians and charlemagne! napoleon Ist wanted a heraldic symbol that wasn't the same as the old (bourbon) french monarchy, the fleur-de-lis, so he reached back 1,000 years to the symbol of charlemagne and the TRUE "first french empire".
EJ160E 2 years ago 6
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It's funny, Napoleon was dieing to legitimise himself in the eyes of the monarchy's of Europe, and instead just made an even bigger mockery of his inept family.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
bugs in the flag? :\
Lenangreal 2 years ago
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Napoleon III, the greatest French emperor, was captured at the Battle of Sedan by Prussia.
Luftwaffe1941 2 years ago
Greatest? No way. His uncle was the greatest, not him!!
marklavar 2 years ago
Napoleon III was a great man, but he would agree with that!
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago 5
that was declared official anthem?
uudrakgvens 2 years ago
Vive Napoléon III ! VIve la France !
Koenig0726 2 years ago 29
@Koenig0726 l empire du porte monaie
druisteen1 1 year ago
@Koenig0726
Le meilleur chef d'état que nous ayons eu pendant toute notre Histoire.
"Partant pour la Syri-i-i-e
Le jeune époux Dunois
Alla prier Marie
De bénir ses exploits:
"Faites, Reine immortelle
Dit-il en la priant,
Qu'époux de la plu-us be-elle
Je sois le plus vaillant"!
AlanBroc 1 year ago
Sebostopol, Solferino
DuseikaLT 2 years ago 32
@DuseikaLT Sedan
LordWalnuts 1 year ago
@DuseikaLT SEDAN.
moffbombadil 1 year ago
some body spray some raid on that flag
estylz1967 2 years ago 3
lol,
bad boy, bad bad boy! they are bees! They are dying out as it is!
greenday1978 2 years ago 5
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LarryScottBB 2 years ago
Viva le France i love the flag although instead of insects it should be fur de lee's eh greetings from germany and canada
prussiansoilder 2 years ago 11
The two principal emblems of the First and Second Empires are the Imperial Eagle and Bees. The fleur-de-lys was the emblem of the Capetians, the Valois and the Bourbons.
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
Yes, the Bonaparte's attempts at making themselves seem legitimate in the eyes of monarchy's across Europe, by adding the legendary Merovingian and Carolingian bee's to their personal standards.. I'm sorry, but it's all very amusing to me. The Bonaparte's have no more right to any throne than I do.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
@PurePerfection No need to say you're sorry, it's very amusing to the rest of us how you can claim that a dynasty with no other justification than hereditary transmission is "legitimate".
Both the First and Second Empire were founded on the will of the people. The Bourbons lost their throne because they neglected the same principle. Kings were elected a long time before thrones started becoming hereditary. The bee predates the Frankish kings (Ancient Egypt)
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
Do you honestly believe Napoleon and his family at all cared for the will of the people? The French only love Napoleon because he started an empire.. They forget the fact he was anti-revolutionary in the exact same sense Louis XVIII and Charles X was, but for different reasons. The Revolution, as much as I may insult it, had principles. Napoleon and his ilk had none. They merely were replacing the old aristocracy with a new aristocracy, and that's what led to their downfall. It pleased nobody.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
The French love Napoleon because he preserved what was best in the Old Regime and what was best in the new. The nobility of the Empire was based on service to the Nation, which was the original basis for the old nobility... as opposed to heredity. Marshal Lefebvre summed it up when he defended his title as Duke of Dantzig "You are only a descendant, but I am an ancestor !"
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
The original basis of the old nobility was NOT any service to the nation, nations are as artificial and invented as hereditary aristocracy's. The old nobility was built around loyalty and service to the King, of which they betrayed in the Revolution, but this was also a late consequence of the end of feudalism. Following Louis XIV, the nobility became useless and restless. This isn't feudalism's fault, but the fact a nobility that was meant to be a warrior aristocracy, and Louis XIV changed this
PurePerfection 2 years ago
Their service to the king was on the principle that he was the incarnation of the nation. Hence Louis XV's mistress calling him "France" even when they were in bed together !
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
Nationalism, the idea of the nation above all, is a recent concept. This is why for so long Kings styled themselves as "King of the Franks", "King of the French" and "King of the English". The time of which you speak is when the idea of a nation indeed becomes more important, but again I must stress that the nobility had been neutered and made useless by Louis XIV.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
If you subjugate your former warrior-leader class to sit idly around the Kings court all day, playing games and gossiping, rather than fighting or even so simple as them scheming in foreign affairs for higher status, of course the system becomes unbalanced. Feudalism was neutered to benefit absolute monarchy.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
The social constructs of ones nation is no more valid, selfish or legitimate than somebody fighting for his family or dynasty as the nobility and monarchys across Europe had done since the fall of the Roman Empire. Even today, people only love their nations history based off of selfish reasons, relating usually to family, ones position and lot in life, or even as simple as they were born there, so therefore it MUST be the best nation on earth. This is why I find Napoleon's system so odd.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
It combined two systems that aren't meant to co-exist with each other. There's no such thing as a meritocracy as is, so certainly an aristocracy based purely on the artificial idea of "merit" is a preposterous idea, and this is why there are more proper monarchists than Bonapartists.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
And on what grounds did the kings you mention grant titles if not on merit ? And there are more Bonapartists than monarchists, because Bonapartism is based on principles (see "Idées Napoléoniennes" for example) and not just attachment to a dynasty.
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
Titles were often granted for selfish reasons, to close relatives, in much the same way the Bonaparte dynasty stumbles into Spain. The lowest of nobility could come from all strands of society, yes. And following the black plague, in England especially (such as the Paston family in Norfolk), peasants would come to high titles. But this is a rarity, as one would have to truly go above and beyond to be awarded a truly prestigious hereditary title.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
It may seem as if I'm criticizing this, but I'm rather acknowledging that inequality is a basic faucet of life, no matter what government you live in. In this so called glorious and free American Republic, most of the politicians come from rich families, which is how they have the opportunity to rise to such heights in the first place. Your birth class often except in the most exceptional of cases indicates how far you can go in life, "Meritocracy" or otherwise.
PurePerfection 2 years ago
Joseph was chosen as king of Spain so that the dynasty in Spain would be tied by blood to the dynasty in France, Italy, Bavaria, Westphalia etc etc. The idea being to unite Europe's ruling families and end the war. That's not selfish.
And I don't agree that the kings gave titles mostly to relatives. Unless you think that all those who rendered important services to the Crown were related to the king.
NapoleonCalland 2 years ago
Chosen by who? The French? Why is the campaign in Spain so legendary, the genocide so famous? You can argue all you want that the idea of Bonaparte's in Spain were defeated by reactionary monarchists, but these same monarchists refused to allow what was a relatively stable monarchy (save the meddling by Louis XIV years earlier) to be replaced by Bonapartism. If you disagree with what the Spanish were fighting for, that's fine. But just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true.
PurePerfection 2 years ago