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  • Expected that to happen hah.

  • charlie sheen: im winninggggggggg

  • charlie sheen can't drive

  • charlie sheen

  • @waleisbeast damn it i wanted to say that haha

  • fun... stock turbo rx7 vs modified turbo supra... of course the supra will win...

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  • is tat a stock 7 ?

  • that didnt look like a race to me

  • good now lets see that race vs a 20b powered fd

  • damn I want these cars so bad and I know stock for stock the rx-7 is faster but imagine this race if the rx-7 had the 20b with whatever mods he has on his 13b and as for the 2jz favorite motor ever oh and the car too ;-)

  • why supra is a so badass ? it makes my mustang slow

  • @Dosalt Yes. mustangs are slow. You said it, not me.

  • @david9639 not the 2010 model (I guess so)

  • @Dosalt the 2010 was slow the 2011 is the fasyest but that car is appearing to be alot of over hype too it's still around the same area as the 02 camaro ss and z28 and yes the ls1 camaro is faster than the new ls3's I just got rid of my 01 z28 and I tore the new camaro apart

  • you shift like a pussy

  • can i have the 31 seconds of my life back?

  • Talk about jumping the gun..... supra cheated! tha wasnt a race

  • say bb to mazda shits

  • toasted!

  • dwnrety1 - finally muscle car guy with a lil sense, i am a huge import fan, i used to won a lil b18 turbo integra, nothin special to it really, but rety1 has it right, supra, along wit skylines are the way to go on the streets, youtube is loaded wit videos of both cars and they kill it in basically every video, i'd love to have either of the two, but i give american muscle its props too, shit jus go watch SPEED channel when the IHRA drag finals are on, no supras or skylines or rx-7s there lol

  • who holds the majority of sponsorships on the seed channel? GM, MOPAR, POB, not imports so your not going to see them. saying that proves nothing. and do you even know what your comparing! the IHRA STAND FOR INTERNATIONAL HOT ROD ASSOCIATION! SO WHY WOULD YOU SEE IMPORTS IN THEYRE RACES!!!!! dear lord think before you type!! besides drag doesn't prove anything about imports theyre not made to go in straight lines on a magic speed road. there made for cornering. the ones worth owning anyway.!!!!!

  • @diverseent last time i checked international means more the one nation/country so why wouldn't you see imports? learn English before you type.

  • no you dumbass it means that the people competing come from other nations. its only for hot rods. do some research! before you try to prove a point. i was right not him or you you idiot. nice try though guess again. and i know English you tard, so what did you prove? your own idiocy. hahaha

  • hmmmm...ok well then o smart one what other country has a hot rod? last time i checked there is a 4cyl integra running. i proved your own blindness. you dumb shit. and just think im an idiot and i proved you wrong. how does that make you feel.

  • no. other countries running hotrods. you idiot fuck. dont try to prove shit to me you ass. stay over the internet. i know what im talking about. go google it again.

  • @diverseent you still didnt answer why there is a honda 4 banger running if its only US cars?

  • @xbartosx and you have yet to provide evidence of such besides i just googled it. so...........

  • @xbartosx never said it was for domestic cars only you idiot, i simply stated it was for hot rods, sponsored companies. but they do have a sub compact series that is coming up. but its spereate if thats what your referring to. that happens to run pssy FWD cars that may have a honda or to. what does that prove?

  • it wasn't ''winning is winning''! it's ''winning's winning!'' get it str8. I agree that getting all the power from an FD maybe an expensive affair so i agree with buying a reliable platform and an engine which will return high power to investment ratio. the 13B doesn't do that really. i'd say buy an FD chasis and put a 6spd 2jz in it or maybe a small block twin turbo. if u have REAL 'intention's' you'll let Nelson Racing do it for you. Have you guys seen the 427 TT that belongs to Honest George?

  • really so you've owned one before, and are speaking from personal experience? because the last time i checked you cant even find a supra for under 20 grand then alone just an unmolested motor. and further more a 2jz unmolested motor? and as far as reliability. who says that rotaries arent reliable? i guess if 30 people on youtube say it then it must be an undeniable fact right? NOT!! gosh why dont we just believe everything little 12 yr old you-tubers say. own one and then talk please

  • @diverseent

    Rotarys can be unreliable in the hands of someone who doesnt know how to properly take care of a rotary. Mantinence and modding is much more sensitive and you really have to research your shit before going crazy on the car.

  • ISNT ANY OTHER PERFORMANCE CAR? i dont find that an insult to the car i find it an insult to dumb owners. like aji8. ANY car in the wrong hands is going to be horrific. but they dont loose reliability just because some rice head watched the fast and the furious to many times. lol i see your point but that only answered part of my comment. sort of not really

  • Actually no, an evo's 4g63 would be much more forgiving than a 13brew. That other guy was saying how a JZ motor would be a better platform to build upon and i agree with him. people have made upwards of 700hp with stock internals and thats right about the time that even the most modded 13b will run out of breath. and a rotary at that power level isnt going to last very long either. BUT say at 400-500hp with aux injection, reliability isnt yet sacrificed for power, and they do hold up pretty well

  • i'll qoute from the first fast and furious movie. " winning is winning."

  • Dam Aji8 you are the hater

    2jz is nice over a 13b twin but it aint got shit on a 20B bitchs so all rx's will merk on crappy supras!

  • That is what you think. 20B is just another housing of junk. More to blow up as the rotary does that well and no it can't keep up with the Supra..sorry

  • u guy's are arguing about jap shit cars anyways, my brother had a FD that was fast as fuck, but he dumped hella money into it and it was nothing but problems, blowing apex seals all the time, he never did the smat thing and put a LS1 in it, and supra's are just overweight and over priced pieces of shit, GEN 3 GM's are the only way to go if u wanna go fast

  • BULL!!! supras right off the line in mid 90's granted they had a 6 speed MT with dual turbo could have topped at like *ballpark* 180?

    Now im not saying classic cars are trash im just saying look things up and i AM an american, classic muscle lover but im not gonna trash toyota or any other car manufacturer *except ford i hate ford LOL* just because i have a 1 track mind...

    supras are fast cars and so were gm's "back in the day" but supra is the top dog if you wanna win on the street

  • sorry my friend but a have to disagree about supra's, but ur right ford's are trash lol, anyways modern GM's are the only way to go if u wanna win on the street, little sups have no chance against a bulit supercharged vette, look up lingenfelter, supra's have no low end torque and are slow off the line by the time they are spooled up a supercharged vette has already pulled away, ive seen it myself time and time again, BUT supra's are actually pretty cool tuners but are no match for modern muscle

  • while yeah corvettes are nice cars and it does take a while to spool the usually huuge turbo on supra especially from a dead stop but with a rolling start even low speed like 35-40 they get going real fast but i have to disagree w/ you on modern muscle its kinda went down the drain in my opinion especially since the whole emmisions standards crap in the mid 70's when true muscle died

  • yes that is true because turbo cars have a huge advantage from a roll, but a REAL race is done from a dead stop, and modern muscle still rapes turbo imports hands down, but those late 60's muscle cars u speak of were very stout motors from the factory because fuel economy was not an issue then (wouldnt that be nice huh) and they had LEADED gas back then

  • i dont feel like going on ill leave it at: supras are usually meant for track but are still good on the drag strip check out some of the different videos on youtube and see what i mean if you havent already

  • Yes it does. The Supra is much better. Rotary is junk. You are just too stupid to know any better.

  • Once again the rotary junk loses. 2JZ is far superior

  • ur junk fuckerboob

  • 2JZ is way better..sorry..don't cry

  • grow up, your rx7 lost. :( boo hoo. 2jz>rz7 face it

  • hey buddy no offense ...i think supras are badass ....but pls mind ur own business cuz all aji8 does is go to all the rotary vids and puts rotaries suck(and shit like that) ....and im not comparing both cars cause to me both of them are equal ........and i think aji8 should grow up cause both cars deserve respect not just the supra ...soooooo actually its aji8 who u should be tellin to grow up

  • lol yea i been watching mazda videos all day and that faggot aji8 comments on each one saying they are shit, wat a loser lol

  • dude wth do u kno a stock rx7 1993 model can beat a stock supra 1996, then a 1996 rx7 would rip a older supra to shreds...

  • LOL is all i have to say

  • haha id say the same, its amusin to see the rx7 leavin a gap between it and the supra...

  • ????LOL???? uhmm check the numbers

  • what numbers are there to check?..

    i already know what i said is right ive researched all that before when i was looking into buying a '74 dodge charger and when i started reading all about emmisions standards and that car was gone i was looking at a '73 challenger i already know alot of stuff about what i said..

    and ive been watching videos and reading up on stuff about newer cars so i know what i was talking about there to..

    lol no numbers to check.

  • Good run. clearly the supra was a faster car.

  • Heh, what did you expect?

  • wtf was tha he didnt square up to race he jus took off

  • With the 2JZ, you'll be needing to make modifications to the internals when you get to 500-550HP.

  • haha no dude the 2jz can handle up to 600+ hp on stock internals.

  • No, you do not have to modify any "internals" to achieve 500hp on a 2JZ motor. The ONLY thing you SHOULD change is the head gasket. You can achieve 500hp on a 100% stock block very easily with very few mods and it will be WAAAAY more reliable than MOST 500hp FD, (13B-REW). *I am not saying that FD's arent reliable. They are actually very reliable when maintained properly and modified properly.

    I love FD RX7's. They are gorgeous cars and can be built to lay down massive power. But a lot of...

  • RX7's are owned by idiots who do not maintain the 13B properly not do they modify it properly.

    The FD owners who know how to take care of their FD's have gorgeous cars with good, reliable power.

    I love Supras but I would take an FD over a Supra any day of the week. I would rebuild the 13B, convert to a single turbo... the works. Too bad it's almost impossible to find an FD that hasnt been molested and/or for sale with a reasonable price.

  • So you think a person who owns a RX-7 is a idiot?

  • "So you think a person who owns a RX-7 is a idiot?" -

    NO!! I said a lot of RX7 owners ARE idiots because they do not a: properly maintain their motor and b: they do not properly modify the rotary... so instead of making gobs of HP/TQ, they make gobs of SMOKE and blown rotors.

    I said, I LOVE FD RX7s and if I could find an FD and/or a Supra that hasnt been beaten & has a decent price tag, I would buy it in a QUICK SECOND!

  • @JustinR32T My friend Kevin's 13B-REW RX7 makes gobs of HP/TQ. All he does is "maintain" his car. He is also the biggest weight weenie I have ever seen.

  • whats the price range for one where your at?

    In canada here i seen one for $13,000CAD

    But it was molested like you said the idiot selling it even siad he would take me for a rip in it and basically trash it. I wouldn't want that. but thats the only one i came across though. :(

  • Both Supras and FD RX7s that are in good shape are stil in the mid to high $20k USD range. Nicely modified ones go for much, much more. Both of these cars have held their value greatly. But as discussed, trying to find one that hasnt been beat on, wrecked, etc., is VERY HARD TO FIND. Prestine condition Supras and FD's are COSTLY but well worth the price tag that comes with it!!

    Try searching for one in the states and just import it over to CAN. Good luck!

  • Oh thanks for the luck!

    I actually already bought an Rx7.

    $6300 CAN

    124000km on it everything done to it

    Everything you can do to an rx7 keeping stock turbos.

  • To JustinR32T- Informative and accurate comment. More like this on YouTube please.

  • i seen a tt supra for 16gz here in the us

  • youre right. i have a 700 bhp supra, not changed any internals ;)

    2JZ-GTE rocks =)

  • @clubdriver 2jz are the best im dropping it in my 240 soon just getting more stuff for it

  • @clubdriver oh yeah, then I got a 1305rwhp gt47-88 3.4L 6spd mkiv.

  • @Vikturus2k6 Okey, whats your point ?

  • @Vikturus2k6 you forgot stroker kit :p

  • @Tj1056 3.4L is the 3.0L 2jz with the titan stroker kit thats used by most high end race teams. No, I didnt forget it. ;p

  • @Vikturus2k6 theres more than one 3.4 stroker kit..... HKS, Titan, Crower, Mines..... so you cant really say that any 3.4 2JZ is from Titan

  • @clubdriver suuuuuure u do

  • @Raventhereaper Yes ?

  • @clubdriver

    700bhp Supra sounds killer and nice, but it sounds like it'd mostly shine on the straights. Where's the accomplishment, driver-to-car connection and commitment there? The way I decided to modify my car on purpose is being less hell bent on squeezing excessive power so that it squeezes those corners as good as it sprints in straights.

    Balance Is power.

  • 900-1000hp

  • small turbo vs big turbo with displacement. just a group of friends who want to see where their cars sit at or having a good time cruising.

    why does every nutbag who comments have to make every friendly race a bench race?

  • rx-7 is a nice car but everyone knows what a 2jz can do

  • spot on mate

  • stupid rb26dett is a smaller motor and cant put out the same amount of horse as the supra can

  • "stupid rb26dett is a smaller motor and cant put out the same amount of horse as the supra can"

    It's a smaller engine, duh. Is that your only argument? The RB26 is better because, with the stock internals, you can get 600-650HP off it by putting in a bigger turbocharger or keeping the stock Twin Turbo configuration but putting bigger turbochargers on it. A Twin Turbo setup gives less lag and more power through the whole power band.

  • well first of all you're both stupid. you're arguing the clash of the titans. the rb26 and 2jz are the best motors ever created, no matter what anyone says. they have the best power to wait ratio, best power to money ratio, and the best engine to sexiness ratio lol. even girls know what and rb26 and a 2jz is. they both have their own advantages. and with modern tachnology a single turbo set up is better because they've virtually eliminated turbo lag.internals don't matter if you do your own work

  • well, the little-known 4 rotor is my favorite engine.light and powerful, but needs a lot of work 2 make one. the sound is the bust, of course.

  • YOU DO KNOW THAT THE RB26DETT is NOT an RX7 motor or even a MAZDA motor right? It's a NISSAN motor... 2.6L Inline-6 engine which came stock with '89-'02 Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R. ALL "RB engines" are Nissan.

  • lol google sure is useful.

  • but everyone also knows what a properly built rotary can do.

  • yeah u can get the 13b or the 20b wound out prity nice but... for how long u can get a 2jz doing it all day... u could proberly get a 13b/20b to do it all1 day bet the next its in the shop getting seals becase there shot lol go the supra

  • ur real name jamison? my bros friends name is jamison jameson...idk how to spell it..and nickname jammers...

  • haha dorks.

  • yeaa sure.. like a supra would beat and rx7 by that much.. i bet the rx7 was even tryin... probaly a random guy... you jsut felt like flyin by

  • egsacctly

  • right.. a random guy with a random video camera taping the same race.

  • i know they don't suck but honestly how many places do you know that can actually tune a rx7 good? becouse i know of like 2 in all of florida were for supra's anyone can tune them good i didin't say amazing i said good.

  • so a street legal rx7 ran a 7.2 @ over 185MPH? Rightio...link?

  • Street Legal it isn't street legal unless no one knows. Rx7s well Rotary are known to go out at 120,000miles or more. Thats why no other corp build rotary for the other hand Mazda built it and no there is no such 7 sec car as street legal this guy is messin wid you unless a different country.

  • and yes they do go out in very small amount of miles but it costs like 500 dollers worth of parts to rebuild them unlike piston engines that you have to buy all fully forged internals and things like that and still run the risk of it just poping and all that being down the drain.

    unlike an rotary that will just blow a seal or maybe crack a rotor.

  • They do have a small amount of parts, however, when something goes wrong you have to strip down the whole engine (including removal and refit) which is where the cost comes in, plus the fact that only mazda make mazda, meaning only one possible supplier which means they name the price for parts.

    As for the small miles matter, only if you treat them bad. I.E. not warm it up, not cool it down. let the maintenance slide, and generallly ABUSE the thing, then they can last just fine.

  • just to let you know since you seem to like drag races a street legal rx7 beat the titan supra supra by 4 tenths on a 1/4 mile drag.

    annnnnd i garuntee you there is no supra that can beat the FD3S Fujita Engineering rx7 becouse it does have the fastest time on the togue by 7 seconds.

    annnd do you have any idea at all how much it costs to build a fast supra?

    well with all forged internals that can be alot of money.

    now on the other hand, port and rx7 get big turbo.

    so supra's suck :)

  • Currently Supra's were tuned to 2300hp and more from Toyota themselves from TRD for drag racing leagues against many others. The contender that yet have never failed was a solara using a 2JZ running 5secs 2jz has 2320hp as the supra using that motor at first ran 6.8s using a lighter body was more obvious of winning so they use the solara body. Rx7's from Mazda never won a champ. mazda themselvse always had gasket problems and running quick 7.1s with 1400hp any higher and it would go out in flame

  • but it is not a supra now is it?

    it is a supra motor but not a supra chassi.

    soooo if we count that i am going to buy a smart car get drag slicks and all nessesary parts to withstand the power from a built 13b and then we can see how fast it can go.

    thats pretty much the same thing you said about the supra and the solaria.

    and yes the rx7 was from peru that is street legal so you are right about that.

  • You guys need to read an older Road & Track or Car & Driver coz both magazines compared both cars stock and yes on the racetrack the Supra was faster not just in the straight but around the racetrack. Not to mention the Supra doesnt beat up its passengers like the RX7 did ( again stock). As far as the 24 hrs of lemans, Mazda has won with a rotary engine but not in the RX it was a purpose built racecar with a special rotary engine.

  • Purpose built racecar maybe but special rotary engine, no. The engine was a race version of the 20B 3Rotor, a production engine.

    It may have been a race version but everyone else had a race version too.

  • mis shift?

  • You have no idea do you. RX7 loses to supra stock and never won a 24 hour race the supra on the other hand did and is faster stock and tuned up supra can go way up to 1500hp and rx7s leave off at 800hp some are only near 950hps

  • the rx7 did win a le mans race. the supra didnt i love both cars but i would rather have a rx7 they look better and perform better all around if i wanted a dragger i would go buy a supra but thats not my style the the revolution spin on Rotary 4life. and as for the hp ive seen rx7s run in the 6's with the 13b.

  • just to let you know since you seem to like drag races a street legal rx7 beat the titan supra supra by 4 tenths on a 1/4 mile drag.

    annnnnd i garuntee you there is no supra that can beat the FD3S Fujita Engineering rx7 becouse it does have the fastest time on the togue by 7 seconds.

    annnd do you have any idea at all how much it costs to build a fast supra?

    well with all forged internals that can be alot of money.

    now on the other hand, port and rx7 get big turbo.

    so supra's suck :)

  • get your hands of the camera bro :P

  • What size are the gauges that are on the A pillar?

  • How much hp are both cars making?

  • It doesn't matter if both cars are stock the supra would win either way.

  • Sure in straight line performance. No way in auto-X or road courses with turns.

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