What soul? Where is the consciousness when people have split minds when the corpus callosum is cut?
What would be the purpose of a soul? Dualism / magicism has been proven to be FALSE. The body can't be a vessel for the soul because no such supernatural thing such as a soul interacts with the brain. The brain has absolutely nothing interacting with it. When you die you'll stop existing and never think again. You'll be in the same state before you were born forever.
Well...God ultimately is why we are here but I believe we have a plan and path. We are here to learn for the soul. This is our temp home from home. As far as hell. I think the dark souls have to keep repeating life; Now that would be hell lol.
Dang I think I might have confused what you said... sorry for that... I'll see if I can find your site and possibly discuss some of this with you since comment sections are a bit hard to really navigate for me at times ;p
You interest me... but you make no sense to me at all! The Bible does not teach that you have Free Will in the sense that you are advocating... not at all... I think you are very intelligent, but confused about Biblical doctrine in an extreme way... I still hope the best for you now that I've found your videos but it makes me wonder what was taught at the Churches you went to if you've ended up with these points of view?!
Have you ever noticed that in the bible, Christ's redemption is very particular? Yes, in John 17 Jesus deliberately excludes "the world" from His prayer but only prays for those whom the Father has given Him. He then concludes that prayer with petition for those who would believe later from the testimony of the apostles. Yep, this certainly doesn't help the cause of the heresy of universalism.
Everyone is organic that means very easy to be hurt ,so if we want pure salvation,body can't be the real I, because it not stable in essence, so if we can be saved and have the pure security our essence must something that can't be destroyed , some formless thing which is perfect.
Hellfire does not exist. Gehena is a valley where they burned trash, dead animals and bodies of those who did not deserve an honorable funeral. A lot of these words like sheol and hades were translated as hell in the bible. God created us so that we could live forever happily on a paradise and worship him. Burning forever in a hell dos not make sense and the bible proves it
@brando2483 Paul didn't mention Hell, not once. He took time to write about men having short hair and women remaining silent in the church but failed to talk about Hell?
You have taken the verse out of context, you must read the whole chapter
Psa 103:17-18 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children; To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: FOR OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE. Hbr 12:28.
Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. Mal 3:5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
Not really. Jesus's words were recorded long after he died. The anonymous gospel writers were only repeating stories they had heard after a 40 year game of telephone. There have been countless gods and messiahs throughout history, before and after Jesus. There continues to be "godmen" even today because most humans are gullible and uneducated.
@TheFurthertruth It's possible that Jesus spoke those words. An author can make a person say whatever they want. Especially an unknown author with a theological agenda. To quote someone directly, you'll need a document that they themselves wrote. That's why hearsay evidence isn't allowed in court. It can't be proven.
The NT writers believed the end was near and Jesus was the Messiah. They were so convinced, they even quoted Him as saying He would return in their lifetime.
I can't see why the desciples would makeup stores concening Jesus, because the desciples saw the old testament prohpecies concerning Jesus come to pass right before their eyes.
They were so convinced, they even quoted Him as saying He would return in their lifetime. Please give me chapter and verse where it states this ?
@TheFurthertruth Fulfilling a prophesy only works when the person who does it is unaware of the prophesy. If you know exactly what you have to do to become the Messiah, it's not that impressive. And what's to stop an author from writing down that He fulfilled them even if He didn't. Who would know?
Matthew 16:28 "Truly I say to you, there are some who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
Ok, this is very easy to unravel. But I tell of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God Luk 9:27.
Jesus was refering to the whole house of faith, brothers and sisters who lived 2000 years ago to the present age of brothers and sisters in the last days. Some of us will not taste death at his coming.
THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN, SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.
1Th 4:14-17 ......For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
@TheFurthertruth 1 Timothy 4:10- This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.
1 John 2:2- He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world.
@whatthehellbook 1Ti 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
Yes, Jesus is the saviour of all men, but only to those who want to be saved.
1John 2:2-6 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW HIM "IF" WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS. THE MAN WHO SAYS, "I KNOW HIM," BUT DOES NOT DO WHAT HE COMMANDS IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
BUT IF ANYONE OBEYS HIS WORD, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: WHOEVER CLAIMS TO LIVE IN HIM MUST WALK AS JESUS DID.
@TheFurthertruth Right. When I quote Scripture it's cherry picking. When you quote Scripture it's correct lol
John 12:30-32- Then Jesus told them, “The voice was for your benefit, not mine. The time for judging this world has come, when Satan, the ruler of this world, will be cast out. And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself.”
Stop posting random verses on my videos or I will have to block you friend. It's not meant for you to spew your agenda.
Psa 37:9-10 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
@TylerOmega 1Timothy 6:3-5 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
Jhn 3:16-19 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God....
@whatthehellbook And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. John 12:32.
THIS IS HOW CHRIST WILL DRAW ALL MEN ON TO HIMSELF. Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
You have finally discovered the truth! Where would we be without you and the Young's Literal Translation. To think that all these years the church has been wrong, and that God has left us without proper knowledge of heaven and hell until the Youngs Literal Translation could be published. But thankfully, you've arrived 1900 years later to set the record straight. Whew!
@brando2483 It's not just the YLT, Read the MLT or any other literal translation and it will show what the writers actually said. The first few centuries of the early church did not believe in a literal and eternal Hell; neither do I. To believe that says that God can't let go of a wrong.
@whatthehellbook Isa 13:9-11 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth.. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
@TheFurthertruth Psalm 103:8-10- The Lord is compassionate and merciful, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. He will not constantly accuse us, nor remain angry forever. He does not punish us for all our sins; he does not deal harshly with us, as we deserve.
@whatthehellbook Joel 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
Joel 2:13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, AND TURN UNTO THE LORD YOUR GOD: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
And behold I come quickly; and my reward is with, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:12.
Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Jhn 3:5-7 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
REPENT ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins maybe blotted out.....Act 3:19.
HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED; BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT SHALL BE DAMNED. Mark 16:16.
Act 17:30-31 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Jesus shall be revealed.... In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of... 2 Th 1:7-10
I believe before creation, our Father was lonely (if you want to put it in a worldy time sense), so He started His plan to make His family. And when the fullfillment of the gentile is complete, we all will be with our Father and He will have His first family reunion and He will never be alone again.
@SwordofManticorE If God was lonely, he is not perfect. Perfection requires nothing additional. Your view of God makes God into a needy imperfect being.
@therealweenis It doesn't say that word for word. I'm not going to get in an argument with you. We've gone down this road before. You ask a lengthy series of questions where you try to trap the person you're speaking "at" with your incredible knowledge. He created us in His image and for His glory (Gen. 1:27, Isaiah 43).
@whatthehellbook Oh, so you're saying there isn't anything in the Bible that says God created us because he needed fellowship or companionship with us.
Your saying that he created us in His image and for His glory, are true statements, but they don't correlate to companionship or fellowship.
To say God created us because he wanted companionship is to state a deficiency in the Godhead.
@cYberNiNja08 Why? Did He not make us in His image? Have you ever been alone and felt lonely. Is not lonelyness an emotion givin to us from God, Is He happy and angry at times as well? Emotions? You read scripture in print, but you cannot read the white between lines.
@SwordofManticorE The problem with your speculation is that you are a fallen, sinful human being, not a Holy triune God so my question, chapter and verse not speculation and conjecture.
@cYberNiNja08 Jut out of curiosity, does it really matter if God was lonely or not? I mean, is this something that keeps you out of Heaven (in your mind) if you believe God was lonely?
@whatthehellbook The reason it matters whether or not God was lonely or not, is because it furthers a true knowledge of God. To neglect the pursuit of truth, is to not pursue Christ or the Father.
Also, the very idea of God being lonely is in stark contrast to who God is, and what the Bible has to say about God. There is perfect community within the Godhead, this community exists between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and has eternally existed as such.
@therealweenis Which is exactly why the doctrine of eternal punishment needs to be rejected. It mischaracterizes God and makes Him out to be the opposite of Love.
@whatthehellbook It is sad that these who say hell exists, dont behave like they do. What is even more sad is that they are like the older brother of the prodical son. They refuse to join in the celebration of their younger brothers return,
@SwordofManticorE Can something that is perfect be lonely? If something is lonely, it is lacking, if something is lacking it is not perfect. Loneliness necessarily requires something else for completion. If a person is lonely, they need to add to their situation something to mitigate loneliness in order to be "complete".
No, God isn't, never has been, and will never be lonely.
@SwordofManticorE You seem to make a habit of making things up and elevating them to the level of truth. You certainly do have a vey active imagination. The bible says that all things were made for God's glory. But what does a "literalist" know.
Hey, and don't forget to read Dr. Stephen Jones incredible books, "Creation's Jubilee" and "Judgments of the Divine Law" available for free online at his website, gods-kingdom-ministriesDOTorg
Jackson, you got it right - Christians that "think they got it figured out about Christianity." That whole attitude of camping out on a pet doctrine has been one of our biggest problems in the church - hence the hundreds of denominations today. Time to keep moving on! Gain new insight, revelations, enlightenment, or whatever you want to call it, people! Open your mind, and most importantly your HEART. God is LOVE. Whatever strains against that simple truth is NOT of the Spirit. Rethink!
@finalewiz Rethink, I love it! We search for truth instead of defending what we think is true:) God is truth and I pray that the Holy Spirit leads everyone to the truth.
you don't know much...all i can say is that the bible says " only fools say in thier hearts that their is no God. dont speak blasphemous about God.
GloryaDios 5 days ago
@GloryaDios Did you even watch the video? I never said there is no God. I believe in Jesus Christ, He is my Savior.
whatthehellbook 5 days ago
What soul? Where is the consciousness when people have split minds when the corpus callosum is cut?
What would be the purpose of a soul? Dualism / magicism has been proven to be FALSE. The body can't be a vessel for the soul because no such supernatural thing such as a soul interacts with the brain. The brain has absolutely nothing interacting with it. When you die you'll stop existing and never think again. You'll be in the same state before you were born forever.
WhyLifeIsPointless 1 month ago
Well...God ultimately is why we are here but I believe we have a plan and path. We are here to learn for the soul. This is our temp home from home. As far as hell. I think the dark souls have to keep repeating life; Now that would be hell lol.
chaksheba 1 month ago
Interesting. As a Gnostic I would probably agree with some of this. Gnostics are seekers. =)
chaksheba 1 month ago
Dang I think I might have confused what you said... sorry for that... I'll see if I can find your site and possibly discuss some of this with you since comment sections are a bit hard to really navigate for me at times ;p
OGSVideos 1 month ago
@OGSVideos Check out whatthehellbook . com
whatthehellbook 1 month ago
You interest me... but you make no sense to me at all! The Bible does not teach that you have Free Will in the sense that you are advocating... not at all... I think you are very intelligent, but confused about Biblical doctrine in an extreme way... I still hope the best for you now that I've found your videos but it makes me wonder what was taught at the Churches you went to if you've ended up with these points of view?!
OGSVideos 1 month ago
You`re trying to change a vicious, sadistic cult, let it die alone.
IBcooful 1 month ago
@unomnacajit111 We cannot be good, Christ alone is good.
whatthehellbook 1 month ago
@whatthehellbook So true, righteousness is in christ alone. If we were to have it in ourselves that would be self-righteous.
truth2350 1 month ago
Did you read Quran?
islamicdaroos 2 months ago
@islamicdaroos No I haven't.
whatthehellbook 1 month ago
Have you ever noticed that in the bible, Christ's redemption is very particular? Yes, in John 17 Jesus deliberately excludes "the world" from His prayer but only prays for those whom the Father has given Him. He then concludes that prayer with petition for those who would believe later from the testimony of the apostles. Yep, this certainly doesn't help the cause of the heresy of universalism.
MothMann21 3 months ago
Everyone is organic that means very easy to be hurt ,so if we want pure salvation,body can't be the real I, because it not stable in essence, so if we can be saved and have the pure security our essence must something that can't be destroyed , some formless thing which is perfect.
wisbetwilsion 4 months ago
Hellfire does not exist. Gehena is a valley where they burned trash, dead animals and bodies of those who did not deserve an honorable funeral. A lot of these words like sheol and hades were translated as hell in the bible. God created us so that we could live forever happily on a paradise and worship him. Burning forever in a hell dos not make sense and the bible proves it
dreammepr74 4 months ago
@dreammepr74 I agree :)
lansingchad 4 months ago
@brando2483 Paul didn't mention Hell, not once. He took time to write about men having short hair and women remaining silent in the church but failed to talk about Hell?
whatthehellbook 4 months ago 22
You have taken the verse out of context, you must read the whole chapter
Psa 103:17-18 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children; To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: FOR OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE. Hbr 12:28.
TheFurthertruth 4 months ago
@TheFurthertruth Our God is also described as a refiner's fire. What does that mean to you?
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. Mal 3:5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
TheFurthertruth 4 months ago
Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luk 13:23-24 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, STRIVE TO ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE: FOR MANY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WILL SEEK TO ENTER IN, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.
Word from JESUS HIMSELF.
TheFurthertruth 4 months ago
@TheFurthertruth "Word from JESUS HIMSELF"
Not really. Jesus's words were recorded long after he died. The anonymous gospel writers were only repeating stories they had heard after a 40 year game of telephone. There have been countless gods and messiahs throughout history, before and after Jesus. There continues to be "godmen" even today because most humans are gullible and uneducated.
TylerOmega 3 months ago
@TylerOmega
Are you drunk ? Are you saying Jesus never spoke those words ? Because the dead sea scrolls confirms the Gospel, it is the true word of God.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
@TheFurthertruth It's possible that Jesus spoke those words. An author can make a person say whatever they want. Especially an unknown author with a theological agenda. To quote someone directly, you'll need a document that they themselves wrote. That's why hearsay evidence isn't allowed in court. It can't be proven.
The NT writers believed the end was near and Jesus was the Messiah. They were so convinced, they even quoted Him as saying He would return in their lifetime.
He didn't.
TylerOmega 3 months ago
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TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
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I can't see why the desciples would makeup stores concening Jesus, because the desciples saw the old testament prohpecies concerning Jesus come to pass right before their eyes.
They were so convinced, they even quoted Him as saying He would return in their lifetime. Please give me chapter and verse where it states this ?
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
@TheFurthertruth Fulfilling a prophesy only works when the person who does it is unaware of the prophesy. If you know exactly what you have to do to become the Messiah, it's not that impressive. And what's to stop an author from writing down that He fulfilled them even if He didn't. Who would know?
Matthew 16:28 "Truly I say to you, there are some who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."
It's been 2,000 years. Let it go.
TylerOmega 3 months ago
Ok, this is very easy to unravel. But I tell of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God Luk 9:27.
Jesus was refering to the whole house of faith, brothers and sisters who lived 2000 years ago to the present age of brothers and sisters in the last days. Some of us will not taste death at his coming.
THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN, SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
1Th 4:14-17 ......For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
@TheFurthertruth 1 Timothy 4:10- This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.
1 John 2:2- He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—and not only our sins but the sins of all the world.
whatthehellbook 3 months ago
@whatthehellbook 1Ti 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
Yes, Jesus is the saviour of all men, but only to those who want to be saved.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
1John 2:2-6 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW HIM "IF" WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS. THE MAN WHO SAYS, "I KNOW HIM," BUT DOES NOT DO WHAT HE COMMANDS IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
BUT IF ANYONE OBEYS HIS WORD, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: WHOEVER CLAIMS TO LIVE IN HIM MUST WALK AS JESUS DID.
Do not cherry pick.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
@TheFurthertruth Right. When I quote Scripture it's cherry picking. When you quote Scripture it's correct lol
John 12:30-32- Then Jesus told them, “The voice was for your benefit, not mine. The time for judging this world has come, when Satan, the ruler of this world, will be cast out. And when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw everyone to myself.”
Stop posting random verses on my videos or I will have to block you friend. It's not meant for you to spew your agenda.
whatthehellbook 3 months ago
@TylerOmega
Psa 37:9-10 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
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@TylerOmega 1Timothy 6:3-5 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
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Jhn 3:16-19 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God....
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
@whatthehellbook And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. John 12:32.
THIS IS HOW CHRIST WILL DRAW ALL MEN ON TO HIMSELF. Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
You can block me, i suffer for Christ.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
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@TheFurthertruth You think you are suffering for Christ. I bet you aren't suffering reproach for preaching 1 Tim 4:10 like we do daily.
phillip78 3 months ago
@whatthehellbook,
You have finally discovered the truth! Where would we be without you and the Young's Literal Translation. To think that all these years the church has been wrong, and that God has left us without proper knowledge of heaven and hell until the Youngs Literal Translation could be published. But thankfully, you've arrived 1900 years later to set the record straight. Whew!
brando2483 4 months ago
@brando2483 It's not just the YLT, Read the MLT or any other literal translation and it will show what the writers actually said. The first few centuries of the early church did not believe in a literal and eternal Hell; neither do I. To believe that says that God can't let go of a wrong.
whatthehellbook 4 months ago 14
@whatthehellbook Isa 13:9-11 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth.. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
TheFurthertruth 4 months ago
@TheFurthertruth Psalm 103:8-10- The Lord is compassionate and merciful, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. He will not constantly accuse us, nor remain angry forever. He does not punish us for all our sins; he does not deal harshly with us, as we deserve.
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook Joel 2:12 Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
Joel 2:13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, AND TURN UNTO THE LORD YOUR GOD: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
TheFurthertruth 3 months ago
@whatthehellbook
And behold I come quickly; and my reward is with, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:12.
Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
TheFurthertruth 4 months ago
Jhn 3:5-7 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
REPENT ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins maybe blotted out.....Act 3:19.
HE THAT BELIEVETH AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED; BUT HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT SHALL BE DAMNED. Mark 16:16.
opengates777 3 months ago
@opengates777 I agree. That's not eternal torment though. There is a real judgment, it's just not eternal punishment.
whatthehellbook 3 months ago
Act 17:30-31 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Jesus shall be revealed.... In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of... 2 Th 1:7-10
opengates777 3 months ago
I believe before creation, our Father was lonely (if you want to put it in a worldy time sense), so He started His plan to make His family. And when the fullfillment of the gentile is complete, we all will be with our Father and He will have His first family reunion and He will never be alone again.
SwordofManticorE 4 months ago
@SwordofManticorE If God was lonely, he is not perfect. Perfection requires nothing additional. Your view of God makes God into a needy imperfect being.
therealweenis 4 months ago
@therealweenis He created us for fellowship. He must have wanted companionship.
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook What is the verse in the Bible that says God created us for fellowship or companionship?
therealweenis 4 months ago
@therealweenis It doesn't say that word for word. I'm not going to get in an argument with you. We've gone down this road before. You ask a lengthy series of questions where you try to trap the person you're speaking "at" with your incredible knowledge. He created us in His image and for His glory (Gen. 1:27, Isaiah 43).
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook Oh, so you're saying there isn't anything in the Bible that says God created us because he needed fellowship or companionship with us.
Your saying that he created us in His image and for His glory, are true statements, but they don't correlate to companionship or fellowship.
To say God created us because he wanted companionship is to state a deficiency in the Godhead.
The God of the Bible is not deficient.
therealweenis 4 months ago
@therealweenis Okay:)
lansingchad 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook Brother, I am getting stalked by this youtube user name called Ogdinthorpe. is there anything you can do?
SwordofManticorE 4 months ago
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lansingchad 4 months ago
@SwordofManticorE God was lonely huh? Chapter and verse please?
cYberNiNja08 4 months ago
@cYberNiNja08 Why? Did He not make us in His image? Have you ever been alone and felt lonely. Is not lonelyness an emotion givin to us from God, Is He happy and angry at times as well? Emotions? You read scripture in print, but you cannot read the white between lines.
SwordofManticorE 4 months ago
@SwordofManticorE The problem with your speculation is that you are a fallen, sinful human being, not a Holy triune God so my question, chapter and verse not speculation and conjecture.
cYberNiNja08 4 months ago
@SwordofManticorE Anyone can put whatever they want between the lines if their creative enough.
cYberNiNja08 4 months ago
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@cYberNiNja08 Jut out of curiosity, does it really matter if God was lonely or not? I mean, is this something that keeps you out of Heaven (in your mind) if you believe God was lonely?
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook The reason it matters whether or not God was lonely or not, is because it furthers a true knowledge of God. To neglect the pursuit of truth, is to not pursue Christ or the Father.
Also, the very idea of God being lonely is in stark contrast to who God is, and what the Bible has to say about God. There is perfect community within the Godhead, this community exists between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and has eternally existed as such.
therealweenis 4 months ago
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@therealweenis Which is exactly why the doctrine of eternal punishment needs to be rejected. It mischaracterizes God and makes Him out to be the opposite of Love.
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
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@SwordofManticorE I blocked him. I repeatedly asked him not to post rude comments but he wouldn't stop.
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook It is sad that these who say hell exists, dont behave like they do. What is even more sad is that they are like the older brother of the prodical son. They refuse to join in the celebration of their younger brothers return,
SwordofManticorE 4 months ago
@therealweenis So before creation and His angels, he wasn't lonely?
SwordofManticorE 4 months ago
@SwordofManticorE Can something that is perfect be lonely? If something is lonely, it is lacking, if something is lacking it is not perfect. Loneliness necessarily requires something else for completion. If a person is lonely, they need to add to their situation something to mitigate loneliness in order to be "complete".
No, God isn't, never has been, and will never be lonely.
therealweenis 4 months ago
@SwordofManticorE You seem to make a habit of making things up and elevating them to the level of truth. You certainly do have a vey active imagination. The bible says that all things were made for God's glory. But what does a "literalist" know.
Ogdinthorpe 4 months ago
from my end, it looks like my comments posted multiple times - maybe not
finalewiz 4 months ago
Hey, and don't forget to read Dr. Stephen Jones incredible books, "Creation's Jubilee" and "Judgments of the Divine Law" available for free online at his website, gods-kingdom-ministriesDOTorg
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finalewiz 4 months ago
Jackson, you got it right - Christians that "think they got it figured out about Christianity." That whole attitude of camping out on a pet doctrine has been one of our biggest problems in the church - hence the hundreds of denominations today. Time to keep moving on! Gain new insight, revelations, enlightenment, or whatever you want to call it, people! Open your mind, and most importantly your HEART. God is LOVE. Whatever strains against that simple truth is NOT of the Spirit. Rethink!
finalewiz 4 months ago
@finalewiz Rethink, I love it! We search for truth instead of defending what we think is true:) God is truth and I pray that the Holy Spirit leads everyone to the truth.
whatthehellbook 4 months ago
@whatthehellbook looks like multiple posts are being created - see if you need to remove anything - blessings, brother!
finalewiz 4 months ago
@finalewiz Will do, you mean like the video is being uploaded more than once?
whatthehellbook 4 months ago