Cupping - Traditional Chinese Medicine

[12ka4]

the process: does it hurt?

[MemphisInternalArts]

Please ask questions respectfully. Many people use Traditional Medicine throughout the developed and developing world. It is their right to do what they need to do to achieve wholeness. There are many things outside of our limited geographical, cultural and racial experience that seem crazy, ill informed, etc.

Diversity makes the world livable. If you don't agree with something that is fine and your right. But try to be respectful everyone else.

[JPRichardson]

When the air is heated it expands. When they place the cup against your skin, the air inside of it contracts, which causes the suction. That's all I see happening here. I can't see any relation of this kindergarten experiment with "killing bacteria" or healing in any other manner. Please explain further.

[thinkinrich]

if u catch cold go for it cupping ,u donnt have to take any pills or what ever ,u will go back to work next day

[JPRichardson]

Sucking with your mouth should have the same effect, shouldn't it?

[Extremehackermike]

Lol not really this burns all of the oxygen which kills bacteria....

[JPRichardson]

When the air is heated it expands. When they place the cup against your skin, the air inside of it contracts, which causes the suction. That's all I see happening here. I can't see any relation of this kindergarten experiment with "killing bacteria" or healing in any other manner. Please explain further.

[MemphisInternalArts]

Can't SkeptiTroll/JPRIchardson ask a question with out being a prick about it. He actually has a legitimate question. Placing the flame in the cup creates a simple vacuum. Cupping is appropriate for old injuries esp. trauma related that refuse to go away. It is also used extensively for colds and flus through out Vietnam, South East Asia, China, and the Muslim world. Just because something is outside of your experience does not mean it is worthless.

[JPRichardson]

Sorry but I definitely can't respect you since you never give straigth answers and you have been unrespectful to me. As I told you several days ago, my comments are not for you. You are an AP paractitioner!! You make a living out of conning people into this crap!!! I am obviously NOT going to change your mind!!!! People, TCM does not work, if you feel sick, go visit a real doctor!

[MemphisInternalArts]

All hail SkeptiTroll has spoken!!!

That would depend on how hard you suck.

[JPRichardson]

How hard do YOU suck? HA HA HA HA HA HA

Is this also something you do at your clinic, charlatan?

[feax]

nice song. anyone knows title?

[ginnybba]

this man is professional also it heals pain from injuries that trap the nerve into non blood supply and causes atrophy to nerve and tendons. this cupping heals the nerve by supplying blood to injured nerve that cause pain.

[viewage937]

now the question...I saw blood clotting after the cuts. is this the stagnated blood or chi

What airlments require such treatments in another section there is an long lecture by an Arabian cupping master. what is he saying.

[SketchyTree]

There are some areas that are really dark, and some that are really light, and the areas that were suctioned and became the darkest are I guess the areas where the injury was? Cause some regained color almost immediately. Interesting.

[unicorns1978]

I'm sorry, but this does not look healthy. could you explain why the cups are left on long enough to leave marks? I'm assuming the marks will not go away for at least a week or so.

[sabirah2271]

i have had cupping,the 1st time i was really scared but the results were amazing.the feelin of wellbeing and the ellimination of toxins in the body was incredible.bad blood or stagant blood comes out like liver.really well worth a go

[MemphisKaliGroup]

@unicorns1978: I was the patient in this treatment and was truly amazed when the darkest circles appeared. These were the areas that I suffered the most chronic pain and removing the deep tissue stagnant blood contributed immensely to restoring range of motion and use of my leftside shoulder and neck. The hickies were gone in about a week and to this day I still have my range of motion. MKG

[BadAnnie]

So what does it feel like when the cups go on? Do you feel the heat or just a pressure? Does it pull other toxins out like a massage or is it just for blood and circulation? Eastern medicine is SO where it's at. <3 ^_^

[MemphisKaliGroup]

@BadAnnie:when the cups are applied it is like a suction cup, no heat, the flame burns off the oxygen in the cup to create the suction. Whether it is toxins, stagnated blood or chi or something science has not labeled yet, some thing(s) are removed to promote healing circulation! MKG

[robibmw]

fuck i dont want to be there

[chrismiyaji]

be aware of this Crazy Insane Dr. Chai in Hawaii.!!!!

[redroxybee]

As a massage therapist, I have recently started trying new modalities of treatment. Accupuncture along with cupping seems to be close as far as release of stagnation. While I agree that simply placing a cup on the skin and leaving it in place is not painful, if the cup is placed in an area of high stagnation, such as the neck and shoulder area, and the area is then massaged with the cup, it can indeed be very painful. The relief is worth any pain. Just learn to control your breathing.

[pesadilla38]

they look like a bunch of light bulbs on his back

[pesadilla38]

pakdaehan u are ignoramt this isnt even korean

[newtoniantiger]

This is actually an old idea that originated with the Romans.

[nkfly]

never heard of this before,

it is traditional chinese medication

[newtoniantiger]

Perhaps the Romans learned from the chinese, but from what I learned in school the Romans used a special type of wax, to numb the pain.

[PakDaeHan]

I had a crazy Korean Dr. do this name Dr.Chai in Hawaii and after that he stabbed my mutiple times with a needle to take out some blood, and FUCK it hurt like hell!!!!!!!!!!!he is no longer found in Hawaii. and is hiding. be aware of crazy bizzare Chinese-Korean cupping treatment!!!

[blade0817]

Actually I too have been acupunctured by someone who wasn't skilled. It hurt and left some long marks on my body, not only that my illness barely improved. A couple of years later I found out that this man was just learning from books and never studied at a school. He was practicing illegally! Careful with scams! Today I am going to a real certified clinic and I love it.

[PakDaeHan]

looks gross

[Sky300]

wow, chinese people are so clever :3

[kumquat28]

its like a penis pump for your back :S

[Shonaripa]

I have a shoulder injury since 4 weeks back. It happened during working out and I stretched my left front shoulder by stretching it too much in an exercise. It's much deeper than the first week, doesn't hurt to move or anything just if I do heavy presses. Do you think this can be effective for my injury?

[MemphisKaliGroup]

GradieGreen, not painful at all. when a cup is attached (this occurs by suction) there is no steam. to localize and bring out the area of injury, the cup is dragged across the skin which pulls on the skin and can be uncomfortable if done too fast. there is add'l info throughout this comment string! thx

[GradieGreen]

Does this hurt? Or does it feel good for the steam to be going directly to the sore part of the muscle?

[GOLDEND2007]

i saw on the news about how it sucks the toxic stuff from your body??????????

[MemphisKaliGroup]

in my case, this treatment sucked the stagnated blood from deep in the muscle tissue and brought this stagnated blood to the surface. thus, allowing new blood into the injury for healing. thx for the news!

[212Dude212]

looks like a big bruise

[muslimgirluk]

i wanna know if it hurts, coz if it soesnt then i want this done, but does it leave the scars

[MemphisKaliGroup]

muslimgirluk, there are no scars. the suction created by the cup pulls the stagnated blood out towards the surface skin. usually the discoloration is gone within a few days to a week.

[HidenMakimono]

This is Harirang Korean music ..

[harrypang]

thats gross looking

[Orchid899]

Basically it's just getting HUGE HICKEYS all down your back. What are the benefits?

[Mizzledragon]

from what I've read and seen, if you have stagnant blood in your body, this blood will be sucked up and leave a dark mark. If the blood is normal, you won't see huge dark red marks. Cupping enables you to suck up the stagnant blood that causes certain disorders and enable the lymphatic system to dispose of it.

[Orchid899]

There are lots of other ways to get the effect you speak of. This is just too painful and unnecessary imo.

[dirthpool]

It looks painful, but it really isn't.

[treepot]

Benefits can include but are not limited to curative relief from many types of pain, as well as speeding healing time for injuries and much much more.

[Chumpsky]

"Basically it's just getting HUGE HICKEYS all down your back. What are the benefits?"

Clearly you've never received a huge hickey :D

[sirtinycreep]

I'm only concerned with the huge ring marks left afterwards.

[MemphisInternalArts]

The marks disappear in a few days. Patients are not always left with the discoloration. It does feel good. Moving cups is like a great massage. The cost depends on who you go to.

[InfamousKenya]

thats amazing!

it looks like it feels good, with the pressure

and the movement of the glasses.

where can you get this done, and for how much?

=]

[rocketagency]

Oh my. I need that. How much should I expect to pay for this kind of treatment?

[korndogg27]

you can do it yourself.. when i was 9 i used to do this to my stomach just to play around. this is very popular in the philippines where i grew up

[Majestica23]

It's like glass are light bulbs without light. That looks painful on that guys back. How does the medicine works anyway?

[BlueMoon3l3b]

Ughhh!! I was told that I need cupping done to me, but there is NO WAY i'm going to do it after seeing that! They looked like giant disgusting blood blisters and he almost looked like he was bleeding around where the rim was. nooooo....sorry, I'm sure it works, but not for me. eww

[MemphisInternalArts]

Hello,

I am the acupuncturist that did the treatment in the video. I wanted to say that it wasn't bleeding around the rim of the cup. It was some balm that I used to maintain good suction and move it around where I need to without breaking the seal. It really isn't as painful as it looks. The benefits outweigh the short term discomfort. You should give it a try. But use a liscensed acupuncturist.

Take Care,

Chuck

[typevietsh]

Yea this really works, and no it doesnt hurt, its feels like a deep deep massage

[SoulSistersBand]

painful too

[lycheedelic]

the color of the mark - does that mean the darker it is, the sicker you are? I wonder if the cups are washed afterwards..?

[MemphisInternalArts]

Hello,

The cups are washed afterwards with a three part process in most clinics. Soap and water, hard core cleaner, then rinse in plain water and left to dry.

[kalijasin]

Looks like it stretches and pulls on the muscles. I think massage therapy would be just as effective if thats the case.

[MemphisKaliGroup]

there is stretching and pulling but it is much more then that. i was the patient so i'll give my version. i had chronic pain in the neck and shoulder; stagnated chi in my blood produced the pain; the cupping suctions this trapped blood to the surface so it can be released and re-establish the chi flow.

[MemphisKaliGroup]

a common practice(not shown in this video) is after the stagnated blood is cupped to the surface, then to prick the skin and then cup/suction out the blood into the cup. Thank you for your comment. MKG

[kalijasin]

Looks like it stretches and pulls on the muscles. I think massage therapy would be just as effective if thats the case.

[pullnshoot25]

Cupping is the bomb, my sister does it to me and she is going to teach me how to do it... fun stuff.

[o0allieo0]

How long does it take for those marks to go away after you do that?

[MemphisKaliGroup]

In my case, it was a few days to no longer than a week. I would assume length of time varied depending on skin pigment, location of application and injury to name a few. MKG

[wassim88]

actually this isnt a chinese treatment , its a middle eastern medecine.

[kungfuyogi]

Wassim88,

You are also correct. Cupping is a multicultural modality. Cupping has been used in the middle east, europe, china, vietnan, etc. It was even used in America around the time of our civil war.  It is a shame that it has been abandoned. It is a very simple low tech way to heal your self and family

[wassim88]

the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) recommended it since it can be a cure to a lot of things.

[kungfuyogi]

Dear Wassim88,

That is really cool. What did did Muhammad (pbuh) also recommend it for? Do you know where I could read more about that? I have also heard about using text for the koran written on paper to help a person heal. I love all aspects of traditional medicine.

[wassim88]

im not sureabout readint a text from quran, but you should start by saying the name of god "besmellah" (in the name of god).

[calliehayes]

lol

[deltajack]

wow . ok.

[amablue]

is it painful?

[MemphisKaliGroup]

Not at all painful. The initial dragging of the cup across the meridians is a 'grin and bear it' moment since the cup is pulling on the surface skin. Otherwise, no other sensations during the rest of the session except for how strange this looked! Thanks for asking, MKG