Schnittke, Cello Sonata (Part 2 of 3)

[Moriadin]

tripe

[horrontologist]

best performance i've heard

[satyrisci]

Youtube comment sections - the public toilet wall of the internet. Nice music!

[celloman2525]

*(mouth agape in astonishment)*

[shoshananeni]

The best thing that i've ever heard.

[Edwin664]

Such a fine, it sure gets the fury I have inside out of me hehe, impressive

[ch252525]

I find the piano part harder... to know where the cello part goes...

[dmehd046]

Great performance. very energetic and unified. I've listened to other recordings and this is by far the best. who are the performers? I would like to purchase the cd if there is one.

[MarkScello]

@dmehd046 Heinrich Schiff and Paul Gulda

[LEmusic145]

The pianist looks so tired int he beginning

[clov69200]

@LEmusic145 well, i used to know him a little, and he just looks like this most of the time :p

Whatever, that guy is an awesome musician !

[orgelitis]

divine.... göttlich

[uhartchristian]

its quite a composition and interpretation looking for effet its intensively expressivo but there is no real message behind. who knows this fairy tale: "des Kaisers neue Kleider" will understand what I want to say....

[stevemaster247]

awesome players but there's no fucking melody!

[StillBlueFunky]

Duh.

[reZapped]

just wonderful, love it so so much!

[KBMKBMKBMKBM]

the pianist looks so cool while he plays... hes just like do do do do chord chord chord lalala

[guldalex]

paul gulda lascia intravedere il fatto di essere il figlio del più grande musicista di tutti i tempi nonchè miglior pianista.....

[Kalagath90]

i've heard better versions...

but a really great piece!!

[SlaktadOchStolt]

The ugliest musicians I ever saw.

[joskaprdulja]

incredible peace of music! so hard to tell what do you feel when you hear it!

[arkadyaminev]

music acts, a simple, suitable for film ... listen for yourself, it is impossible

[I254527]

I've heard the version from Natalia Gutman. It's just incredible!!!

[RaRaLandEQ]

Sorry people......

didn't mean to make everybody suffer because I like to play with john's ego and watch him write gobbeldegook to avoid a point.

We'll try to keep it private... deal ?!

[Hexameron]

Ok, it's settled: Schnittke is a polystylistic composer and you two are polysyllabic writers.

These posts have actually been enlightening and I learned some new words. Can't wait to use "Hoi Polloi" in my next conversation with a bank teller.

[RaRaLandEQ]

I'm not usually a polysyllabic writer hexameron.

I'm just an common islander with no education(never was a priority)

who enjoys music, sex/love, surfing waves and reading books.

(once in a while poke fun at people who take things way too seriously)

Just a weirdo who's jaw drops at hearing people like Alfred Schnittke, Morton Feldman, Sofia Gubaidulina, Krzysztof Penderecki etc.

Something about 2nds and 7ths just grabs me by the ears... : P

[LittleCatBead]

i'm sorry but i can't even fathom trying to count this...

[oldgranny507]

Sounds like it's in common time to me

[RaRaLandEQ]

Thank you so much for putting up this piece of genius!!! Schnittke is just.... flabbergasting! It's post/neo-classical /jazz / avant garde / insane / you name it... :))

I don't think you can really call it anything other than pure genius :)

[Chainedorlo]

Agreed, Schnittke deserves more attention.

[John11inch]

Or you could save oxygen and call it polystylistic.

[RaRaLandEQ]

If you want to generalize at the risk of sounding presumptuous and malapert, you could say polystylistic, but then you'd probably not be smart enough to have actually read there's more than mere style or genre described there before brazenly retorting on a spontaneous,emotionally laden comment.

You can tell that I don't, but If you so desire to economize on oxygen, try holding your breath for as long as you can. You can use my 13.81inches to cork.

Oxygen problem solved little boy, indefinitely.

[John11inch]

If we are simply to enter upon some pseudo-intellectual, phallic jousting match using circumloquacity as our swords, I am reticent to inform you that you are severely outmatched, despite your (assumedly thesuarus-induced, considering its misuse) misuse of the word "malapert" (and I could make a good argument against your use of the word presumptuous from a semantic sense, but that won't be necessary, as I will soon do so from a logical sense). [cont]

[John11inch]

Now, apropos to your pithing pseudo-elucidation, I do not accede with the intellection of the nugatorially delusive solipsism of profligate loquacity you seem to subscribe to, out of an obvious exiguity of substance. Or perhaps I'm simply too otiose. And, please, from this point forward attempt to avoid misusing your adverbial clauses. Also, I am not of such an ivory tower to dismerit split infinitives, but those of the compound variety have no place in youtube comments. [cont]

[John11inch]

While it would be semantically inaccurate to note that it is not *I* who has, does, and will continue to refer to Alfred Schnittke as a polystylistic composer, it is imperative to note that the comparatively larger body of musicologists refers to him as such en lieu of simply Neo-Classical or Contemporary. As per my previous statement of things not belonging in comments limited to 500 characters, I won't bother filling this page with 500 links attesting to such, [cont]

[John11inch]

because if you're a tenth as smart as you wish you looked to me (and as you can see, you don't impress or intimidate me in the least; so sorry to disappoint) you're well aware of this fact. In his/her comment, s/he used the affirmative "it is", stating it as a fact, and not as simile or metaphor. S/he then went on to note that s/he did not know how to describe it, so I was merely attempting to give her the term that 90% of musicologists would use to describe it. [cont]

[John11inch]

My username makes no reference to penile dimensions; I feel sorry for you that this is the direction in which you took it, as that shows a rather plebeian mentality.

Also, it's unfortunate you would think it referred to length, when it would surely refer to diameter. 13.81? Pitiful.

And I would feel quite a bit of trepidation when it came to touching it; my IQ might drop by some osmosis of your seed, which would surely spill at the sight of me =)

[John11inch]

So, it is my "presumption" as you would put it, that Schnittke is best categorized as a polystylistic composer. It is this "presumption" (as in, the other musicologists, composers, theorists and I are saying this without knowledge or evidence that is adequately substantive, i.e. you misused a word a fifth grader can use) that Schnittke himself referred to himself as.

DONE. Tool. Next time know what you're getting into please.

[RaRaLandEQ]

Forgoing the 5hrs you've alloted to expand on erroneous, moot, not to mention pedantic points,

whilst misplacing delusions of grandeur, I am flattered at your piqued retort.

An ego tiffed with such facileness is much case for reproached elation(for those

who see humility as an integral part - accepting we cannot all be magnanimous)

Writing a sesquipedalian, truncated essay for an autodidactic "hoi polloi" who's never even attended highschool,does contend your intelligence or business on utube

[RaRaLandEQ]

(possibly escaping the bona fide erudite competition)

PS> Take in anew the comment you felt the need to garrulously rebut with blind insolence and ponder whether a superfluous vocabulary excersise (by some insipid paramecium with bad wrists & lumbar vertebra due to masturbation)actually refuted my original opinion refering to the piece being mutlifaceted, not just polystylistic.

Try it in quattrain as an excersise in eloquence.

Foresaw your ego's interpretation as competitive&phallic-centric.

[John11inch]

Mine was better. Let me show you why:

Foregoing has an E.

I made no "erroneous points". That is semantically impossible.

Moot is a verb when not used in the legal sense.  You need to use the term "mooted". Don't worry; common mistake from a common person.

"Pedantic" does not refer to verbosity, but to academic elitism and narrowness.

"Piqued" is not a word. "Piquing" is.

You seem to want to use "piqued" again where you used "tiffed", because "tiffed" makes no sense there. [cont]

[John11inch]

"Facileness" is lexicographical vomit. It is the sort of word a nine year old would use after thesaurus-ing "easy". Use "facility" you idiot.

"reproached elation" is grammatically incorrect. It needs to be "a reproached elation" or "reproachable elation".

"For those who see humility as an integral part..." Dangling participle. Integral part of what? I don't know what, but you certainly show no humility, so I doubt it's something I'm worried about missing out on. [cont]

[John11inch]

"Cannot" needs to be "can not" because it refers to the verb "be". Go back to the fifth grade.

"Magnanimous" refers to giving, and does not include anything about "earning" in its definition. You have terribly misused it.

"Sesquipedalian" has no negative connotations. It is also self-referentially ironic and incorrect by differance. It also refers to you; at least I know *how* to use my big words.

"Truncated" literally means cut off at the end, not sporadic in direction. [cont]

[John11inch]

"Autodidactic" is an adjective. "Autodidact" is the noun. VERY funny considering what the word means. Perhaps you should have gone to school.

"Hoi Polloi" simply means a plebeian. I'm glad you can admit that's what you are =)

"...does contend your business on youtube". Oh, DOES writing what you deem an "essay" ARGUE my business on youtube? Did you mean my business is contention?

I'm not going to bother with your other post, because you get the point: that you fail.

[John11inch]

Oh by the way, I'd just like to note that your second post has nearly twice as many errors. That's why I'm not bothering.

I'd also like to note that you have made *no* argument other than attempting to be flashy with some vocabulary you don't have the facility to use. If you'd actually like to argue about music instead of misuse a bunch of synonyms you found on the internet, that would be almost more productive, albeit more one-sided =)

[John11inch]

PS- Just noticed the massive time discrepancy of your first and second posts.

So, did it take you an hour to write the second one because you're a retard or because you were using a thesaurus? =)

[joethepigg]

Whilst Writing a "hoi polloi" who's never even attended business grandeur or misplacing delusions of your piqued retort (for those who Forgoing the 5hrs you've allotted to expand on erroneous, moot, not to mention pedantic sesquipedalian, truncated essay points, see humility as an integral magnanimous part) is much case for reproached elation for an autodidactic highschool on utube, An ego does contend your intelligence tiffed with such facileness, I am flattered at.

[John11inch]

The sad thing is, when I first saw this comment in my inbox, I actually thought that idiot came back to (attempt to) taunt me, because no matter how hard you *purposefully rape English*, it reads exactly as stupid.

Even worse is that you'll probably get some thumbs up because people think you're taking a stab at me instead of the other guy. So as funny as this is, I have to give you a thumbs down to curb the damage.

[V0idslime]

@John11inch Piqued is a word.

[Natalejo]

Amazing!!! :)

[slaffkas]

ЖЕСТЬ!!! I have no other word for this :)

[oxAllyBabyxo]

thank you so much!

just wondering if i can get it down well enough by my college audition in february....

[Canados]

you can purchase it through Amazon. Or if you live in a major city like New York or Toronto, you can buy it in a music store.

[oxAllyBabyxo]

omgosh that was amazing. where do i get the music? what's the proper name of the piece? i want to play that so bad!!

[Canados]

Alfred Schnittke, Cello Sonata no. 1, second movement.

[ryguillian]

Incredible!

[sunarain]

so innntense!!!

[Atropos911]

bloody hell....that was orgasmic.

[budniakova]

what point.. i mean where in the piece did you think it was orgasmic.. just i thought it was too, just liked a few orgasmic places...thx

[Atropos911]

lol, beginning to end...what can i say? it's brilliant music.

[milkamilka3]

he is perfect!!

[kiseneintende]

bellissimo

[achinghunger15]

the cellist really shows what the piece tries to through his expression. he looks like he's having a seizure. it sounds like the composer had a ziezure while he was writing it. it's awful

[kevin2222222222]

fuck you

[middlegray]

you are awful not the cellist

[francello75]

wonderful.

[Thomascello]

i like his face at 4:21 :D

[LittleCatBead]

hell yes.

i'm rockin out.

[kevin2222222222]

ballin!!!

[jsp007]

Heinrich Schiff is the cellist.

[nesletreb]

dude... so metal.

[composer86]

is it sigfried palm, who plays the cello?

[keeskogel3291]

SiEgfried Palm, as it were...no, it's Heinrich Schiff.

[Thomascello]

awesome! an unbelievable performance of his great sonata!

[francello75]

Yes, this is a fantastic performance of this wonderful piece!! I love Schiff and Gulda, but i suggest U to listen to Schnittke's works for cello and piano played by his wife (Irina Schnittke) and Alexander Ivashkin on cello. Also their performance of this 1st sonata is really amazing!

[Thomascello]

i never heard of alexander ivashkin. where can i get the recording of schnittke played by him and irina schnittke? thanks and nice greetings!

[Canados]

This performance is defenitely better than Ivashkin, there's just more meaning.

[pinkfluffymonster]

I think Naxos have a recording - Ivashkin worked closely with Schnittke and some of his music's even written especially for him. If you're in London he gives fairly regular recitals at Goldsmiths (and conducts there too), definately worth seeing!