I love Shorttrack!!!♥♥ I'm 11 and i do it. I love it becouse i love the speed and just the sport. This time i was 3th off Europa!!!! And i just love it;)
1. There is rule where if more than 50% of skaters fall, it's essentially "not a race" anymore. The judges can then call the race. They did not restart the second time because Travis Jayner had already crossed the line before Ohno and Malone slammed into the wall. Once a skater crosses the line, the race is over. It cannot be restarted and the results stand.
2. Some claim he purposely grabbed Jayner to cause the fall. Some people say it wasn't intentional. You decide.
@Zclyh3 interesting. Thanks! So, in the case of Steven Bradbury from the 2002 Olympics, he hadn't cross the line yet when all the skaters fell, yet they didn't redo the race. They just kept it going. Why is that?
@armvamg That's exactly what the skaters asked . But in the end, it's the judges that decide if a race is stopped or not. In Bradbury's case, no one was seriously injured, so they kept the race going.
In this race, a lot of skaters felt that since because Apolo fell, they stopped the raced only for this reason. Was it because of favoritism? Who knows. Remember it's the refs that stop the race. The ref that stopped it even admitted it was the wrong call. Jordan should have won this race.
@armvamg I am and still am a fan of Apolo but if you look at 1:02, you can see Apolo grabbing the skater in front/ahead of him and pulling on his arm.
Huh. Well it was a very VERY smart tactical decision, since that's technically legal, I believe, in short track (because he was in front of them) and with three people down a re-start would be necessary, and give him a chance of winning. It's playing VERY dirty, and it's obviously really dangerous, but it's not cheating. Obnoxious as fuck, though. Lol.
@mygreenheaven That's actually why they restarted the race. There is apparently a rule where if over 50% of the skaters fall, they can restart the race.
March 21, 2010 ISU World Short Track Speed Skating Championship, Bulgaria, Sofia 2010 March 20, 2010 Dream team South Korea = 7 Gold 6 Silver 3 Bronze (16 total medals out of 26) Team World= 3 Gold 4 Silver 7 Bronze Dream team South Korea Wins vs. Team World by 16 : 12 (two medals wont count cuz of Team Relay) Team World: China: 3 gold Canada: 3 silver 2 bronze USA: 1 silver 4 bronze Germany: 1 bronze Short Track Speed Skating was and is owned by the Korean!!!
haha I have a picture of this race as my wallpaper. I didin't even know which race it was till I saw this! At least I confirmed my guess at who was in the shot!
oh no you may be the hero of the us, but what goes around comes around..plz~~ go play with sportsmanship. see? you get finally DQ at 500m final in 2010.
You could still have been the hero of short track. you dishonor us.
@Havixus there's not like special training, you kinda fall how you fall. Basically, you just learn not to mess up your blades or fracture your shins by spinning to face away from the boards before you hit /:
If he get caught he would just laugh about it.. he didn't have to grab that skater,, clearly shows he intentional went down with him.. Cheater he was and still is. . .
also, when your going at that type of speed. You have no control of what your doing, how you fall and who gets knocked down with you. Trust me, i have had expreince myself with it, atleast they all got a redo. Right?
@miamisoccerlover12 that's right. I also have experience with falling :S and really, the only thing you have control of is trying to spin so you don't mess up the blades on the boards. I don't like how Apolo skates, but it's really not like he fell to take down other skaters
therefore making them fall as well, the restart wasn't a bad call, they wanted an even race.....it was just an unlucky form of events, so keep your opinions for your own Amateur minds, REPRESENT PATTISONS WEST, FEDERAL WAY WASHINGTON....
This is jayson williams from pattison's west skating team, and i know who JR celski is, and i know of apolo's career as a speed skater, NOTHING, would be intentional to make others fail at winning a race, he's lost plenty of races in his day, but has also won a lot more than he has been defeated, he does not and WILL not make attempts to hold others from victory, his skate clearly hit the ice and made him lose balance, obviously makin him fall....then the others behind him had nowhere else to go
Those who believe Ohno's action was not intentional is being way too naive. Remember that Ohno is a well seasoned world class skater. He literally knows every finger movement of every player. Sure he is extremely good, but is also notorious for numerous foul plays throughout his career.
Because since more than 50% of the skaters fell, technically it's not a race anymore. However, ALL the skaters got up in a heartbeat and even the head referee admitted it was a bad call.
That wasn't intentional. At 0:32-0:33, you can see his right skate blade come up, then come down, with the tip of the blade jabbing into the ice, ultimately tripping him.
I don't know? It looked intentional to me. Apolo was stable on his knees and he didn't touch the other skater, he grab him. Is this another Tonya Harding in the making?
At first I thought it was intentional, but after watching it for a few times, I think he did that to get out of his way. It's hard to decide because everything happens so fast. In the end though, the judges didn't think it was intentional.
nice video thanks for sharing very interesting .. god bless
davidchavez12364 4 months ago
I love Shorttrack!!!♥♥ I'm 11 and i do it. I love it becouse i love the speed and just the sport. This time i was 3th off Europa!!!! And i just love it;)
Vivitjuuhh 9 months ago
Apolo Ohno, yet again showing what bad sportsmanship is. Very exciting race no less.
Arielforsklein 11 months ago
i did this today in oakland on my start
xCheesecBoyx 1 year ago
2:50 jordan's like omg
Darthdarbinks1 1 year ago
Did the same guy win each time?
CrAzySkittles98 1 year ago
Can someone explain to me a few things...
1. Why did they restart the first time but not the second, when the same amount of people fell in both?
2. What is "dirty" about how Apolo raced? Within the context of the race, how does one cheat?
I want to understand short track more and would appreciate a non-biased explanation of the race. Thanks!
armvamg 1 year ago
@armvamg
1. There is rule where if more than 50% of skaters fall, it's essentially "not a race" anymore. The judges can then call the race. They did not restart the second time because Travis Jayner had already crossed the line before Ohno and Malone slammed into the wall. Once a skater crosses the line, the race is over. It cannot be restarted and the results stand.
2. Some claim he purposely grabbed Jayner to cause the fall. Some people say it wasn't intentional. You decide.
Zclyh3 1 year ago
@Zclyh3 interesting. Thanks! So, in the case of Steven Bradbury from the 2002 Olympics, he hadn't cross the line yet when all the skaters fell, yet they didn't redo the race. They just kept it going. Why is that?
armvamg 1 year ago
@armvamg That's exactly what the skaters asked . But in the end, it's the judges that decide if a race is stopped or not. In Bradbury's case, no one was seriously injured, so they kept the race going.
In this race, a lot of skaters felt that since because Apolo fell, they stopped the raced only for this reason. Was it because of favoritism? Who knows. Remember it's the refs that stop the race. The ref that stopped it even admitted it was the wrong call. Jordan should have won this race.
Zclyh3 1 year ago
@armvamg I am and still am a fan of Apolo but if you look at 1:02, you can see Apolo grabbing the skater in front/ahead of him and pulling on his arm.
8Menachi8 4 months ago
Huh. Well it was a very VERY smart tactical decision, since that's technically legal, I believe, in short track (because he was in front of them) and with three people down a re-start would be necessary, and give him a chance of winning. It's playing VERY dirty, and it's obviously really dangerous, but it's not cheating. Obnoxious as fuck, though. Lol.
mygreenheaven 1 year ago
@mygreenheaven That's actually why they restarted the race. There is apparently a rule where if over 50% of the skaters fall, they can restart the race.
Zclyh3 1 year ago
His entire career tells how cheater he is.
World class cheater for sure.
youtubo1073 2 years ago
youtubo1073 2 years ago
haha I have a picture of this race as my wallpaper. I didin't even know which race it was till I saw this! At least I confirmed my guess at who was in the shot!
Leacd189 2 years ago
Omg at 2:30. Apolo could've sliced his cheek open
dragonbird088 2 years ago
oh no you may be the hero of the us, but what goes around comes around..plz~~ go play with sportsmanship. see? you get finally DQ at 500m final in 2010.
You could still have been the hero of short track. you dishonor us.
tobylove822 2 years ago
@tobylove822 Ok let's not take this too personal. It's just short track.
Zclyh3 2 years ago
0:52 First attack with right hand. not working...Second attack 0: 57 trying to grab the skate blade..not working Finally
transformed into the suicide bomb. yay~~~it works~~!!
tobylove822 2 years ago
Look closer at 1:02 Oh no grab other player's arm...He could have just passed but Oh no says " Oh no~~I cannot die alone" puahhah
tobylove822 2 years ago
puahhahaha nicely done Oh no~~
Now you became the "Human Anti-tank Rocket Launcher" killing two tanks there
puahhahah
tobylove822 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAA ;D
HitsuIchii 2 years ago
who won?
anaivanovicsfan 2 years ago
Travis Jayner? haha
Zclyh3 2 years ago
Sad day! Apolo falls TWO times! But he still got silver and bronze at the REAL olympics, so its all good :-)
MsAlyssaa 2 years ago
poor Apolo falls 2 times!:-$ but still gd
LaurenDungan 2 years ago
In my opinion, THE SLOW MOTION PART IS FUNNY(:
CrAzySkittles98 2 years ago 7
haha yeah that's why I edited it like that.
Zclyh3 2 years ago
Are they trained at how to fall correctly??
Havixus 2 years ago
@Havixus there's not like special training, you kinda fall how you fall. Basically, you just learn not to mess up your blades or fracture your shins by spinning to face away from the boards before you hit /:
pumpkin45pie 1 year ago
apolo and JR were tho ones that fell both times right? they are both very very good!!
horseluvur1995 2 years ago
Apolo is an ass...big mouth
cheating means just another way to win.
If he get caught he would just laugh about it.. he didn't have to grab that skater,, clearly shows he intentional went down with him.. Cheater he was and still is. . .
Look at way he left that mustach..
chewchewg 2 years ago
@chewchewg Yeah Jordan was definitely robbed in this 500m. But it's ok. He still made it to the World Cup team that season.
Zclyh3 2 years ago
@chewchewg
i really dont like your comment, and i dont like you either. Sorry i disagree with your comment and way of expressing it.
miamisoccerlover12 2 years ago
@chewchewg
also, when your going at that type of speed. You have no control of what your doing, how you fall and who gets knocked down with you. Trust me, i have had expreince myself with it, atleast they all got a redo. Right?
miamisoccerlover12 2 years ago 3
@miamisoccerlover12 that's right. I also have experience with falling :S and really, the only thing you have control of is trying to spin so you don't mess up the blades on the boards. I don't like how Apolo skates, but it's really not like he fell to take down other skaters
pumpkin45pie 1 year ago
Is Celski 21?
nickjaddicted 2 years ago
no he's 19.
CarlyLinnea17 2 years ago
no i mean his number in this race?
nickjaddicted 2 years ago
@nickjaddicted no his number is 43 apolo's is 21
XX18twilight18XX 2 years ago
o ya i knew apolo's was 21 after i saw him wearing it in other races but now i see J.R with 57 and not 43..o wat evr there both realy good
nickjaddicted 2 years ago
GO JORDAN!!!
apolofan97 2 years ago
cheater Apolo
simonblinde 2 years ago
Cheater? For not wanting to go head on with a blade?
MrPoppagergio 2 years ago 7
It's just a defensive reaction . He dosen't want his leg or face slit open by a blade I imagine.
TXSK8R 2 years ago 5
i know ohno is good. but it does kinda look fishy at 1:02. pause it and see for yourself.
d2ornothing 2 years ago
I have more videos coming up from the World Cups.
Zclyh4 2 years ago
He clearly doesn't want to go face first into a skate.
MrPoppagergio 2 years ago
therefore making them fall as well, the restart wasn't a bad call, they wanted an even race.....it was just an unlucky form of events, so keep your opinions for your own Amateur minds, REPRESENT PATTISONS WEST, FEDERAL WAY WASHINGTON....
MrRomeo253 2 years ago 3
This is jayson williams from pattison's west skating team, and i know who JR celski is, and i know of apolo's career as a speed skater, NOTHING, would be intentional to make others fail at winning a race, he's lost plenty of races in his day, but has also won a lot more than he has been defeated, he does not and WILL not make attempts to hold others from victory, his skate clearly hit the ice and made him lose balance, obviously makin him fall....then the others behind him had nowhere else to go
MrRomeo253 2 years ago 3
If you dont speed skate I think your reading to much into it.
TXSK8R 2 years ago
Those who believe Ohno's action was not intentional is being way too naive. Remember that Ohno is a well seasoned world class skater. He literally knows every finger movement of every player. Sure he is extremely good, but is also notorious for numerous foul plays throughout his career.
grasuh 2 years ago
Where are you getting your facts from?
MrPoppagergio 2 years ago 2
why did they restart? it was on the last lap
d2ornothing 2 years ago
Because since more than 50% of the skaters fell, technically it's not a race anymore. However, ALL the skaters got up in a heartbeat and even the head referee admitted it was a bad call.
Zclyh3 2 years ago
watch closely to the last falls slow- mo
Apolo fingers jordan malone with white glove...
bernietse 2 years ago
That wasn't intentional. At 0:32-0:33, you can see his right skate blade come up, then come down, with the tip of the blade jabbing into the ice, ultimately tripping him.
girolle01 2 years ago
That is some great camera work considering the rig you're using, great job!
ecking001 2 years ago
Thanks. I've recorded on the unit I've had so much that I've pretty much mastered the motion.
Zclyh3 2 years ago
Thanks for this! **
itsonlykat 3 years ago
did you see ohno grab him??!! cheat..
Calabam19 3 years ago
I don't think it was intentional. But it's up to you to decide.
Zclyh3 3 years ago
I don't know? It looked intentional to me. Apolo was stable on his knees and he didn't touch the other skater, he grab him. Is this another Tonya Harding in the making?
thefantom12 2 years ago
At first I thought it was intentional, but after watching it for a few times, I think he did that to get out of his way. It's hard to decide because everything happens so fast. In the end though, the judges didn't think it was intentional.
Zclyh3 2 years ago
ya thats definitely jordan malone who was the last man standing not jayner
Hav0k619 3 years ago
ah you mean in the restart.. haha never got that far :P.. thats embarrasing
Hav0k619 3 years ago
Great stuff -great camerawork- i sent you an e-mail today (just incase it gets spam filtered)
Barraldinho 3 years ago
WATCH IN HD!
Zclyh3 3 years ago