hello... i have the 550watt pioneer 6x9 i love them... so now i need amplifier for it ...can you ppl help me ??? PIONEER GM-6400F 120W or KENWOOD KAC-7404 720W they are 4 channel...
@PeleGiannisGalpe make sure you tell him there are 3 positive and 1 negative channels in a psu there is as mentioned a 12v but there is also a 3.3 volt and a 5 volt channel as well
@hollnolan that depends on the bass you are trying to get. Those 6x9 have some great bass but if you want something extra, is better using a subwoofer (Pioneer, of course)
They're meant to be driver "freeair" in a hatch or a trunk space. Putting them in boxes, they lose all bass response, plus they look GAY sitting in your back window.
lmaoo 6x9should always be enclosed, if it was ported it would sound distorted cuz they dont push enough air and it will b like playing it free air, so u always want 6x9 enclosed
i ONLY like acoustic suspension too for the speed and clarity, but MOST people love ported speakers for deeper & louder bass so much that they're in denial that they're REALLY listening to distortion no matter how many sealed vs ported pros & cons lists you show from manufacturer's sites etc.
it's just a matter of taste, and "boom" sells more speakers in showrooms, that's why there are so few acoustic suspension home speakers made anymore sadly.
you have it backwards. speakers have less bass free air due to rear wave cancellations.
when i had a 12" that i hadn't installed in it's box yet, you could barely hear it even turned way up, but as soon as i put it in it's sealed box... KABOOM!
speaker boxes aren't for looks, they're there to stop back waves from cancelling the front waves out. bass suffers the most from this. that's why huge panel speakers have "weak" bass.
"In any free air application, the back seat and surrounding panels should be removed to SEAL any possible areas where energy could be lost. It is CRUCIAL to separate (seal) the back wave of the loudspeaker (woofer) from the front wave of the loudspeaker. If not, bass cancellation will occur. This is also a good time to rid and deaden the trunk and surrounding areas of any unwanted noises and rattles."
probably because you're pushing them hard trying to make them act like 12" subs or are using cheap crappy 6x9s to begin with.
look up sealed vs ported pros & cons at a bunch of sites online and you'll see long lists of cons for ported with "less bass & efficiency" being the ONLY con for sealed speakers.
then you're using your entire trunk as an enclosure, so you have alot of air mass behind them.
true "free air" means that the back side of the speakers is open which WILL cause out of phase (read bass mostly) frequencies to cancel out.
i had a 12" sub i could literally SEE moving, but not really hear because of back wave cancellations until i finally installed it in it's box whereupon it started making my walls shake.
read ANY pros & cons list, including kicker's & you'll see a BUNCH of distortion related cons for ported, (don't get why people LIKE that crappy distorted boom at all) and the ONLY cons for sealed are less dBs which can easily be compensated for with bass boost.
i think ported speakers are evil. i DESPISE ports. i get annoyed with people who deny that ported bass is just distortion no matter how many FACTS you present. you're just listening to air echoing inside a box with ports, not music
i'm ONLY talking truth. the ONLY "distortion" sealed speakers is roll the bottom octave off while ported speakers create ALL KINDS of distortion to add harmonics that simply don't exist in the original signal
you can be yet ANOTHER port lover who lives in denial about the EVIL of port distortion, but FACTS ARE FACTS!
just read the two articles at kicker (dotcom slash)
Ported_Enclosure_Pros_and_Cons
&
Sealed_Enclosure_Pros_and_Cons
and SEE who's talking poop & who's telling it like it is!
ANY other similar pros & cons list (there are MANY) will say the same thing...
sealed speakers don't add ANY distortion, they're just less efficient & ported speakers distort through resonance, time delay, phase cancellation & poor driver control.
yeah... it's a good idea NOT to argue with FACTS because it only makes you look a total idiot, or a bold faced liar or some combination of the two.
if you want to argue, argue with kicker etc. and their scientists & engineers!
Sealed is inefficient, lacks the lows that DO exist in a track but the sub is being choked too much to produce them. I won't however argue that they sound cleaner overall.
But what i'm saying is a properly designed ported box will sound equally as good as a sealed box, just with less punch and more lows.
chabon, en español o en ingles, italiano tambien, pero hoy en dia no podes estar conectado a internet y no saber saber escribir en otro idioma que no sea portugues
Question, I'm wanting to build a box for 2 6x9s, for in the house, I want to have them in the same box, and the question is, should it be proted or sealed?
I have no idea actually... i built mine sealed 'cause I didnt want the inner parts of the speaker (the woofer coil, spider and wiring) to be in contact with all in the trunk..., y guess you could go ported, but the tuning should be very precise in order to get good sound, since these speakers are meant to work on "free air" conditions...
either case, you ought to build separate boxes because they'll be playing stereo (i bet you already know that)
They produce more mid-bass quality. Lo bueno es que podes darle mas volumen sin que distorsionen tanto (solo la via de bajos obviamente, porque es la que esta contenida por la caja). Anyways, they're designed to work on free-air conditions, so it depends on how you like mid-bass.
They produce more mid-bass quality. Lo bueno es que podes darle mas volumen sin que distorsionen tanto (solo la via de bajos obviamente, porque es la que esta contenida por la caja). Anyways, they're designed to work on free-air conditions, so it depends on how you like mid-bass.
es una yamaha aerox y la e puesto bajo el asiento 2 altavoces graves de pioneer y en el hueco de entre los pies 2 mas iguales luego 4 agudos 2 a cada lado delante de las rodillas
jaja, ahora si entendi. gracias por tu comentario igual. si pudiera me compraria algo mejor, pero no me da para RE Audio ni JBL. igualmente en el video no se aprecia. pero suena muuy bien
la verdad es que no calcule el volumen de las cajas, las medidas son (aprox.) 30x20x10 cm. las ranuras se las hice sin motivo particular, solo me gusto como quedaban, ademas se ventilan mejor las bobinas.. supongo que no hacen la diferencia dado que los parlantes estan diseñados para funcionar sin recinto (free air)... en cuanto al sub, si, le falta bastante potencia, voy a comprar una boss cx1000 para alimentar 2 pioneer 307 de 400rms c/u
very loko!
matheus30098 1 week ago
what dimension are the boxes?
pink9494 2 months ago
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pink9494 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
good sound dude :D
SuperFordgranada 5 months ago
what is the name of the first song thanks
gabor484 6 months ago
want name of song
gabor484 6 months ago
how are you powering them can you like plug a 12 volt transformer into them
MultiMinecraft123 9 months ago
i love this system pioneer <3 and good song of eminem
201mercedes 9 months ago
hello... i have the 550watt pioneer 6x9 i love them... so now i need amplifier for it ...can you ppl help me ??? PIONEER GM-6400F 120W or KENWOOD KAC-7404 720W they are 4 channel...
coz i have in front 260 watt pioneer...
FalleneXe 10 months ago
I konw... it's very well powered right now
armandoes 1 year ago
you sub needs a lot more power. just saying.
andrew1jl 1 year ago 2
nice ! (:
Suchtla1 1 year ago
not alot of excursion on the sub but pretty chill for a car system in ur home lol
kickuass32 1 year ago
Where is the wc
cankul98 1 year ago
I had the Infinity 3way 6x9s and they had an enormous amount of upper bass, even on Open Baffle. I couldn't stand it.. I resold them.
transdrole 1 year ago
what music 1:10??
Artur9067 1 year ago
@Artur9067
Without me, Eminem
armandoes 1 year ago
@armandoes fenx
Artur9067 1 year ago
@Artur9067 really?
sk8freak51392 1 year ago
@Artur9067 Eminem-Without me :]
PeTTaR387 9 months ago
nice...you could also power them with a psu
PeleGiannisGalpe 2 years ago
what's a psu?
armandoes 2 years ago
the power supply you have in your pc...it's output is 12v like a car battery ;)
PeleGiannisGalpe 2 years ago
@PeleGiannisGalpe make sure you tell him there are 3 positive and 1 negative channels in a psu there is as mentioned a 12v but there is also a 3.3 volt and a 5 volt channel as well
terran698 1 year ago
@armandoes psu IS POWER SUPPLY UNIT LOL
X2N18 1 year ago
@armandoes power supply unit frm a computer
02watsot 1 year ago
@armandoes power supply unit..likke the one found in Pc
SP33DADD1CT 1 year ago
@armandoes it the powersuply of your pc
MrFireworksfreak 1 year ago
@armandoes totally late, but i think hes referring to a "power supply unit" from a computer
Calypsythe 1 year ago
@armandoes a pussy
eagles211able 9 months ago
do the 6x9s have good bass with out the sub
hollnolan 2 years ago
They have good mids, but nothing replaces a subwoofer
armandoes 2 years ago 2
@hollnolan that depends on the bass you are trying to get. Those 6x9 have some great bass but if you want something extra, is better using a subwoofer (Pioneer, of course)
imfercho 1 year ago
i see that it is in your house, how did you wire it?
lobstermendez 2 years ago
I have a 12 Volt power source
armandoes 2 years ago
I have an RX7 I put my 6x9's in the storage hatches jsut cause there was no where else to put them
musclekid13 2 years ago
How big did you make theports?
HenkAnnieNaald 2 years ago
very clean looking build. good job
dubhippy 2 years ago
wow cute 6x9 enclosure!!
CrismarkRock 2 years ago
6x9 speakers should never be "enclosed"
They're meant to be driver "freeair" in a hatch or a trunk space. Putting them in boxes, they lose all bass response, plus they look GAY sitting in your back window.
drummond72 2 years ago
You're fucking kiddin right???!!!!
Have you ever tried them sealed?.... Either way, you dont know why i put them sealed, so shut the cunt up!
Si te parece que son gay, problema tuyo, no lo mires y listo
Ciao figlio di puttana ;)
A ver si ademas de putear sabes hablar en algo mas que no sea tu puto idioma americano
armandoes 2 years ago
lmaoo 6x9should always be enclosed, if it was ported it would sound distorted cuz they dont push enough air and it will b like playing it free air, so u always want 6x9 enclosed
MaurerJBL 2 years ago
i ONLY like acoustic suspension too for the speed and clarity, but MOST people love ported speakers for deeper & louder bass so much that they're in denial that they're REALLY listening to distortion no matter how many sealed vs ported pros & cons lists you show from manufacturer's sites etc.
it's just a matter of taste, and "boom" sells more speakers in showrooms, that's why there are so few acoustic suspension home speakers made anymore sadly.
SOME of us prefer quality over quantity still.
dubhippy 2 years ago
i agree with you 6x9's hit good sealed
Bruser45 2 years ago
you have it backwards. speakers have less bass free air due to rear wave cancellations.
when i had a 12" that i hadn't installed in it's box yet, you could barely hear it even turned way up, but as soon as i put it in it's sealed box... KABOOM!
speaker boxes aren't for looks, they're there to stop back waves from cancelling the front waves out. bass suffers the most from this. that's why huge panel speakers have "weak" bass.
dubhippy 2 years ago
quoted from the12volt (dotcom)
"In any free air application, the back seat and surrounding panels should be removed to SEAL any possible areas where energy could be lost. It is CRUCIAL to separate (seal) the back wave of the loudspeaker (woofer) from the front wave of the loudspeaker. If not, bass cancellation will occur. This is also a good time to rid and deaden the trunk and surrounding areas of any unwanted noises and rattles."
which is exactly what i just said
dubhippy 2 years ago
i just bought a pair of sealed 6x9 enclosures... and they sound SHIT..
Viny8u 2 years ago
probably because you're pushing them hard trying to make them act like 12" subs or are using cheap crappy 6x9s to begin with.
look up sealed vs ported pros & cons at a bunch of sites online and you'll see long lists of cons for ported with "less bass & efficiency" being the ONLY con for sealed speakers.
or just read the "bass reflex" wikipedia page.
dubhippy 2 years ago
im using pioneer 80watt 6x9s, they sound much better installed into the rear deck.
Viny8u 2 years ago
then you're using your entire trunk as an enclosure, so you have alot of air mass behind them.
true "free air" means that the back side of the speakers is open which WILL cause out of phase (read bass mostly) frequencies to cancel out.
i had a 12" sub i could literally SEE moving, but not really hear because of back wave cancellations until i finally installed it in it's box whereupon it started making my walls shake.
dubhippy 2 years ago
@dubhippy Ported i better than sealed for loudness and lowness. End of.
Sealed is better for kick and punch, but its not as loud, or low. End of.
paulwisdom2008 2 years ago
read ANY pros & cons list, including kicker's & you'll see a BUNCH of distortion related cons for ported, (don't get why people LIKE that crappy distorted boom at all) and the ONLY cons for sealed are less dBs which can easily be compensated for with bass boost.
i think ported speakers are evil. i DESPISE ports. i get annoyed with people who deny that ported bass is just distortion no matter how many FACTS you present. you're just listening to air echoing inside a box with ports, not music
dubhippy 2 years ago
@dubhippy Bass boost?
Wow. Seeing as you just talked alot of shit, i'm not gonna bother arguing with you.
paulwisdom2008 2 years ago
i'm ONLY talking truth. the ONLY "distortion" sealed speakers is roll the bottom octave off while ported speakers create ALL KINDS of distortion to add harmonics that simply don't exist in the original signal
you can be yet ANOTHER port lover who lives in denial about the EVIL of port distortion, but FACTS ARE FACTS!
just read the two articles at kicker (dotcom slash)
Ported_Enclosure_Pros_and_Cons
&
Sealed_Enclosure_Pros_and_Cons
and SEE who's talking poop & who's telling it like it is!
dubhippy 2 years ago
ANY other similar pros & cons list (there are MANY) will say the same thing...
sealed speakers don't add ANY distortion, they're just less efficient & ported speakers distort through resonance, time delay, phase cancellation & poor driver control.
yeah... it's a good idea NOT to argue with FACTS because it only makes you look a total idiot, or a bold faced liar or some combination of the two.
if you want to argue, argue with kicker etc. and their scientists & engineers!
dubhippy 2 years ago
@dubhippy I will argue with kicker!
Sealed is inefficient, lacks the lows that DO exist in a track but the sub is being choked too much to produce them. I won't however argue that they sound cleaner overall.
But what i'm saying is a properly designed ported box will sound equally as good as a sealed box, just with less punch and more lows.
paulwisdom2008 2 years ago
great sistem, good build 5/5
kosec321 2 years ago
whats the first song?
CamDJC91 2 years ago
"Tarde Gris - Bahiano"
armandoes 2 years ago
brasileiro praticante é uma bosta!!!
Himaspro 2 years ago
chabon, en español o en ingles, italiano tambien, pero hoy en dia no podes estar conectado a internet y no saber saber escribir en otro idioma que no sea portugues
armandoes 2 years ago
i'll show you the one i did last year....by "cedro"...incredible...
engenheiromotta 2 years ago
Question, I'm wanting to build a box for 2 6x9s, for in the house, I want to have them in the same box, and the question is, should it be proted or sealed?
kyleranden 2 years ago
I have no idea actually... i built mine sealed 'cause I didnt want the inner parts of the speaker (the woofer coil, spider and wiring) to be in contact with all in the trunk..., y guess you could go ported, but the tuning should be very precise in order to get good sound, since these speakers are meant to work on "free air" conditions...
either case, you ought to build separate boxes because they'll be playing stereo (i bet you already know that)
armandoes 2 years ago
sealed
movitmovit 2 years ago
sealed it will sound better
TheLostProphecy92 2 years ago
i got a huge box for mine its allot like a sub box lol
jayholley123 2 years ago
can you add me and tell me the first song
guammie11 2 years ago
wow , talk about webbed hand lol
samussamus1 2 years ago
Sorry, I dont understand what do you mean by that
armandoes 2 years ago
im only joking =)
samussamus1 2 years ago
stil, i dont understand what does that mean
armandoes 2 years ago
at :16 it looks like webbing between ur thumb and index finger lol
goatman5 2 years ago
oh yea
jayholley123 2 years ago
I'm a good swimmer you know :P
armandoes 2 years ago
look good 5 stars
OntarioMan69 2 years ago
hey what`s the size of the boxes.
helikopterplatta 3 years ago
30 x 20 x 10 cm (width, height, depth)
armandoes 3 years ago
do boxes give you more sound quality?
suenan mejor con caja?
hjamado 3 years ago
boxes give you more mid, and low range, or more bass
KbApimp007 3 years ago
They produce more mid-bass quality. Lo bueno es que podes darle mas volumen sin que distorsionen tanto (solo la via de bajos obviamente, porque es la que esta contenida por la caja). Anyways, they're designed to work on free-air conditions, so it depends on how you like mid-bass.
saludos
armandoes 3 years ago
They produce more mid-bass quality. Lo bueno es que podes darle mas volumen sin que distorsionen tanto (solo la via de bajos obviamente, porque es la que esta contenida por la caja). Anyways, they're designed to work on free-air conditions, so it depends on how you like mid-bass.
saludos
armandoes 3 years ago
man, it's not a big deal, the sub is so poor....... give it a monochannel amp for at least, and if you got it, it's not enough ...
chemicaljuanf 3 years ago
Watch my latest video, I upgraded to 2 pioneer 307 D4 plus a 1200 RMS monoblock amp
armandoes 3 years ago
al contrario mariano, las cajas con tubos tienen mayor rendimiento que las selladas, estas confundido, es exactamente al reves
armandoes 3 years ago
sella la caja que te da 3 Db mas capo
salu2
suena piola
mariano1990s 3 years ago
muy bien eminem pero los de mi moto suenan mas
xemaelmakina 3 years ago
que tenes puesto en la moto?
armandoes 3 years ago
es una yamaha aerox y la e puesto bajo el asiento 2 altavoces graves de pioneer y en el hueco de entre los pies 2 mas iguales luego 4 agudos 2 a cada lado delante de las rodillas
xemaelmakina 3 years ago
tenes fotos?
armandoes 3 years ago
no pero tengo un video en el youtube que subio mi primo
xemaelmakina 3 years ago
se llama yamaha aerox!! dj buho!
xemaelmakina 3 years ago
batts gna die fast
imydaking 3 years ago
what?
armandoes 3 years ago
k eso es muy malo esud es la gama mas baja de pioneer l acajas son muy pekesy bueno nada me boy a dormir k en españa es madrugada
sfdx18 3 years ago
jaja, ahora si entendi. gracias por tu comentario igual. si pudiera me compraria algo mejor, pero no me da para RE Audio ni JBL. igualmente en el video no se aprecia. pero suena muuy bien
saludos
armandoes 3 years ago
k penco suena eso
madre mia mi coche si k peta lo mejor es jbl
sfdx18 3 years ago
no te entiendo nada
armandoes 3 years ago
esas bocinas son de 3 vias?? Todos me dicen que las compre, me podrias decir si realemnte son buenas??
feder890 3 years ago
de cuantos litros es la caja? por q le pusiste 2 sport??? le falta potencia al sub
tocallito 3 years ago
la verdad es que no calcule el volumen de las cajas, las medidas son (aprox.) 30x20x10 cm. las ranuras se las hice sin motivo particular, solo me gusto como quedaban, ademas se ventilan mejor las bobinas.. supongo que no hacen la diferencia dado que los parlantes estan diseñados para funcionar sin recinto (free air)... en cuanto al sub, si, le falta bastante potencia, voy a comprar una boss cx1000 para alimentar 2 pioneer 307 de 400rms c/u
armandoes 3 years ago