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  • Go for it, James! Unfortunately, you can't reason with sheer hatred and stupidity. And I'm willing to bet she is clinically ill. Nice try, though...and keep up the voice of love and reason. You're fabulous!

  • Thank You Very Much! I'm so happy to see this video. You are what this state (and the rest of the U.S.) needs.

  • I am an atheist, but listening to this video has made you one of the few 'christian' youtubers whom I have any respect for.

    Well said, it's a shame that more people of faith don't share your logic and sensibility.

  • Do you really think that terrorist muslims destroyed the WTC? How many people STILL think this? My mind boggles...

  • ur a preacher? I'd SO Go to your church and Join!

  • This is amazing. I am glad to see open minded people like you in Oklahoma, because there aren't alot. Thank you sooo much for this video, it really does mean alot to the gay/lesbian comunity. Thank you.

  • U are awesome man!!..

  • What church is this!?!? I love this cool with the gays thing, now if we could get you to say terrorist instead of Muslim. Let's remember what group blew up the federal building in oklahoma city. Come to think of it he looked kinda like you!

    No disrespect, just go easy on the Muslims huh...

  • Muslim People are no terrorists!!!

  • Man we need more people like you, you are awsome, great video, thank you so much for putting it on here.

  • thanks for this video!

    you are soooooo right!

  • I will pay $5,000 to the first person that hits Sally Kern in the face with a pie.

    Seriously.........I will.

    It was glorious when Anetta Bryant got nailed with one in the 70's. Let's do it again!

  • ok i'll do it lol

  • Cool, Riri! :)

    Cheers!

  • ames I knew you and discipled you in the ICOC. You were arrogant then and you are arrogant now.We ate Raman noodles together. You care about being a leader in a church and that is it. You told me you joined the ICOC to get a girl because they will force girls to date within the church.So give it up. it happened! you got married! No one cares about this boogie man Kip Mckean. And stop watching wrestling it is fake. might want to rethink the fruit of the loom too. Signed XD

  • religious people are not anti science.. in fact science was propelled by many christian scientists who wanted to discover what God had made....i dont know a single christian who is anti science only ones who are extremely interested in science.

  • "i dont know a single christian who is anti science only ones who are extremely interested in science. " -

    Do you know any Creationists? They're the ones who are anti-science.

  • I really wanted to thank you for posting this response. For the sake of America, I hope she's voted out of office, and never gets into the US House or Senate.

  • I found the "promoting monogamy to prevent spread of STD's" bit went a little over the edge but I applaud the bigger message in your video. Thank you for this.

  • well said, preacherjames!

  • Revern, You are VERY right in what you said about fred Phelps . I saw one of his videos on You Tube. AND , it is UNBELIEVABLE!!! the haterd in his "sermons". He is the devil . I do respect you for you taking the courage in defending gay people. I have never heard a revern do that. For that I TRULLY respect you. I am very sorry in passing judg. on you.All people should live and let live.

  • Wow. Thanks for posting this. Most people just get offended and walk away when they're misunderstood.  You had the courage to come back and apologize. Sally Kern could learn a thing or two from you.

    And let me add: I really like this preacher, and I laughed when you said he looked like a thug. Because he does, and that's funny.

  • i dont think this sleazy thug sally kern would ever learn a thing or two from this guy on the video. she refused to apologize and she gonna terrorize the gay community, plus she pushes federal authorities to do the same.

  • I apoiogize about my statement.

  • That is a revern??? he looks like a thug.

  • Have you ever seen Rev. Fred Phelps? He looks like the devil. Acts like him too.

  • The Overhauling of Straight America

    by Marshall K. Kirk and Erastes Pill

    "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay right

    The mainstream should be told that gays are victims of fate, in the sense that most never had a choice to accept or reject their sexual preference. The message must read: "As far as gays can tell, they're born gay..."

    Kirk & Madsen admit such is a lie, but homos repeat it often enough using Hitlers Big Lie Technique

  • Poor DefenselessLeague! Still trying to spread the lie that anyone knows about this let alone follows and believes it! No one does but you HDL! Stop spreading lies and false witness against your neighbor!

  • I see you've gone back to using your own name and not some one else's. Lying toad. I've already told you...Kirk and Madsen were two straight guys who wrote their books for profit. Their profession, Marketing. I do believe they used the homosexual life as a test for how well a class of people could be duped into buying others ideas. Since you straight people know more about their books than the homosexuals do, I'd have to say their test backfired as the wrong group of people read the books. LOL

  • You're a fake. You used the name of a person who is fighting for GLBT rights! You chicken shit loser. Use your own name. Stop being an insecure S.O.B. and using another persons name to post your crap under. You are scum.

  • Awesome video! Thank you! :-D

  • Aww! Poor geo! Did several turn you down?

  • that doesn't even make sense. What are you talking about.

  • Simple - You're probably just mad since several gay men turned down your advances.

  • humans stink well 90% They are hyporcritical, cruel and deluded and if they weren t talkin about minority sex interests they d bitch about something else. great vid. :)

  • For an expose of Kern and her religious right, watch:

    watch?v=KgXeFKwDt4o

  • We're here, We're Defenders of Heteros from the Homosexual Menace, we're everywhere!@ We're your doctors, your lawyers, your artists, your preachers, your care givers, your playrights, well, maybe not playrights, you're firemen, your teachers, we're EVERYWHERE!

    We are Normal, hear us roar, in numbers too big to ignore....

  • More lies, false witnessing, and paranoia from RealityCheckr aka HeteroDefenseLeague! Proving that the only menace heterosexuals need defense from are the whack-jobs like him,

  • HaterDefensePlague

    You and Sally are using Hitler's technique by saying we're inhuman, a threat to society, and must be eradicated under divine providence...

    This is the KKK's justification to persecute blacks and jews.

    Since you're the expert on how easy it is to change sexual orientation - please share how you stopped being gay.

    Get over that stupid & obscure 30-year-old college paper to which you refer. No one even cares about it or even knew it existed til you started quoting from it.

  • For homos to be able to mainstream & normalize their perverse chosen behaviors, they looked at the negro rights movement & decided they had to claim their behavior was genetic for the trick to be able to work. That is only possible if they could convince ignorant people that homos are born that way, & Kirk & Madsen devised the internal propaganda strategy to be used. K & M even said their born that way claim was a lie, but to use Hitlers Big Lie Technique & repeat it loudly & often till believed

  • Hey Realitycheker, you never did tell me exactly where Kirk & Madsen debunk their own book.

    K&M are marketing experts who wrote a book that the media has dubbed the gay agenda & marketed it to the homosexual community. The gays did not create the "gay agenda", two heteros did. So if any gays want to know more about the "gay agenda", checkout K&M's book. I think K&M are morons as they have nothing against the MBLA, an organisation that the gay community does not embrace. K&M are not reputable.

  • i will see you in hell... if u dare terrorize the gay community. that is, strapping ur body full of bombs, go to gay village and blow urself up, and kill and injure tens of thousands. plus, hijack gay businesses and residences and randomly kill them and shitt.

    dett is summ sick shitt, muddafacca.

  • For those that don't know... I am gay & Christian.

    heterodefense is an online gay basher who's posting hatespam on about 10 videos..

    So do not feel that my following comment applies to ALL Christians... just the right-wing fundamentalists.

  • Sally Kern needs to stop spewing hate like so much fart spray. She makes Oklahama look like a land of haters.

  • Dr Ronald bayer, a PRO-homosexual exposed the terrorism, theft and threats of physical violence homosexual terrorist groups used against the APA to force them to remove homosexuality from their DSM list. That way homs could trot out how "even the APA says it is not a mental illness" and the fact that homos continue to regularly trot out this claim 3 decades alter is proof that homo terrorists had a motive all along.

  • Well! Well! It looks like the return of RealityDenier!

    PreacherJames - It looks like this is possibly an anti-gay whack-job that's now under a new handle.

  • Hetero - Christofacists have called for the destruction of homos for 5,000 years.

    The reason it's no longer seen as an illness is because we understand it enough to know that it's not an illness nor does it need treatment.

    What is YOUR proposal for how to end homosexuality? Hitler worked us to death as slaves or gassed us. Radical islamists stone us, hang us or try us via the lovely practice of toppling a wall onto the person with a bulldozer - if they survive, then forgiven)

    What's your's?

  • Remember too that American psychologist/doctors back in the day used barbaric shock therapy treatment and brain surgery (removing sections of the "afflicted" persons brain). If the person was not left in a vegetative state after these attempts to "cure them of their disease", they either pretended to be "normal" so as not to suffer any more torturous treatment or they remained gay proving that homosexuality is not something that can be "cured".

  • LOL - yup.

    The "cure" was designed by the same 'tards that decided witches should be tried by tying her wrists & ankles and throw her in the river... if she ddrown, she was innocent...

    If she didn't drown, you killed her again.

  • Heter0Defense...

    You know your blasphemy is also a sin?

    Shall we hang you? Set you ablaze? Stone you?

    Or should we show you mercy & forgiveness?

    Your complete lack of reverance and twisting of his words will not be without consequence... you are aware? Yes?

    Allow MY sin to be between me and God... while you focus on correcting your own sins. God has chosen this path for me for a reason... and right now, only HE knows what that is.

  • I strongly suspect "HeteroDefenseLeague" is just a clone account of RealityChekr.

  • It seems that way, argos!

  • ps i am married in my eyes and i know that GOG

    D

    I,m married in my eyes and in GOD's eyes we most 11 years. and they say gays cant stay together. well u have to love each other thru thick and thin to stay together nn

  • i want to move home so much so bad, but i know i cant. i can never move back to oklahoma. i miss it so much... im crying

  • i'm a normal guy just like you. i look straight and act that way too. i grew up on a 300 acker farm in piedmont oklahoma. I'm gay and its okay with my family thank GOD , I live in Florida now where gay people can live very well. i,m the oldest son and i know they want me to move home. but they know i'm gay and they all love my partner. but i just cant,move back to OKC .

  • Thanks, Preacher James!

    I've been very upset with how dismissive she is of gay christians and how she says "we can't be both".

    Even if we don't go to heaven, the world is a better place for having people who hold themselves to moral standards. And it's really none of her business what I do with that 1% of my life that's behind closed doors.

    It IS her business that I'm a respectable member of society who's an active volunteer and the ability to reach others.

  • go charles, you saved love. somthing people forget.

  • Sally better watch out, her bible is against the idea of a woman running for a political office! It also speaks out against contraception, sex outside marriage, using the lord's name in vain, eating pork, wearing mixed fabrics, planting more than 1 kind of crop etc. It also endorses slavery, murder, rape, and a whole lot of other perverse things. It is interesting how so many people choose to only pay attn to the parts that condemn gays. It has no credibility, it's fiction.

  • Your delusional. This is about forcing a unsafe lifestyle on our children. Leave our children alone and this bickering will stop. Do your thing in private. Stay out of our schools!

  • Feeling postal - What "Lifestyle" and how is  it anymore unsafe than the "Straight lifestyle"?

  • What the fuck are you talking about? You are a victim of the fear mongering that Kern and other extremist Christians are pushing!

  • Did you know that there are gay children in your schools? Though they may not even know it yet but once they hit puberty, they're going to know they're different. They're going to wonder why they just don't feel anything at all for the opposite sex and feel everything for the same sex. That's how it starts. As hard as they try, they won't be able to change that either. [continued]

  • They can try and hide the fact by dating the opposite sex but nothing will last and they'll be miserable. They can try and embrace their sexuality but without a support system they will be left to face the harassment by their peers all on their own. The third option is for them to kill themselves. We've already had a few people post comments that they like the 3rd idea the best. [continued]

  • Me being a compassionate, God loving being think that they are freaks and abnormal when they say stuff like that about a child. What do you think? I mean really, what kind of monster cheers when a child commits suicide?

  • As for my lifestyle. Well, I dress mostly in jeans and a t-shirt or a short sleeve collard shirt. I don't drink, I don't do drugs but I do smoke cigarettes. I don't eat out at restaurants much because I don't trust the cleanliness of those places. I eat mostly American foods. I'm an ex-truck driver, now retired. I retired when I was 44. That's my lifestyle (well, a bit more than my lifestyle but whatever). As for my sexual orientation which is my life not my lifestyle, I am a lesbian.

  • A lot of people criticize gay men for engaging in public sex (if this is an example of unsafe lifestyle that you're making reference to), but did you forget about single and married straight men seeking the services of female prostitutes? Or teenagers getting drunk and engaging in unsafe sex during spring break all over the world? And the list goes on and on...I invite you to think about unsafe lifestyle. By the way, my "gay lifestyle" is: go to work, go home, go to church, go home.

  • Dr. Ronald Bayer, a pro homo APA psychiatrist has already exposed how homos stole stationery, engaged in acts of terrorism and physically threatened APA members if they refuse to remove homosexuality from the APA DSM list.

    Now 30 years later, homo agenda foot soldiers here regularly trumpet the removal as some sort of neo-blessing that turd burlging is normal.

  • More lies from RealityChekr. Since he, as usual, didn't quote any source, I did a quick search. It seems that the only place I could see where Reality got his info was from an anti-gay website. So much for proof!

  • They stole stationary?? Engaged in acts of terrorism? What did they do? Wad up the stationary and throw paper balls at the APA members? OH My! The horror of it all! What nasty little terrorists they were!!! Do you think it would make the APA members feel better if I offered to buy them some new stationary? Probably not huh? Since this was 30 flippin years ago!

  • Man, I think someone is angry.

    Why are you mad at him for finally cleaning up his act. If a meth-head stopped taking meth I would be happy for him.

  • If close minded bigots could finally open their minds and eyes to the real Truths and not the made up myths and lies of the bible, I'd be happy for them.

  • I heard that!!!

  • Great, now could you make sure the rest of "your people" hear that too?

  • How sad, poor second rate guardian is loseing yet another argument. I know you can't win them all, but geez. I would think that as much as you post comments you would win every once in a while.

    Oh well, every argument needs a loser

    And you provide that service.

  • The Bible is at best fictional bedtime story. Buddha is the one true God!

  • Actually you're right and wrong. There is only one God. Mankind has given him many different names though. A person's level of comfort when it comes to beliefs and styles of worship sets the tone as to which religion they will follow. Someone said it best earlier when they made the remark that people worship their religious books more than they do God. No matter what name you give Him, He is The Creator of the universe.

  • I think the fight between religions is more about the one true religion than it is the one true God. If everyone could just see God on their own instead of trying to see him in the pages of books, they might realise that God is everything we need Him to be without all the rules and restrictions that the books entrap the followers with.

  • There is no moral absolute. Let's see.

    A space station is built. It has no laws, no rules, and no country owns it. We put two people, a man and a woman, on that space station. The man violently rapes the woman. Should he be punished? If so, by what law or authority should he be punished? What should the punishment be?

  • What the hell is wrong with you, NudusPactus. Are you seriously saying that if it wasn't for your slavery-condoning bible no one would understand what's right and wrong? Well isn't it funny that all OTHER religions seem to agree that rape is wrong and atheists agree that rape is wrong and modern psychology agrees that rape is wrong. Now how in the world could all of these people have come to the same conclusion WITHOUT your bible?

  • And how sad a person are you if the only reason you think that rape is wrong is because the bible says so. SICK.

  • Not even sure how the space station theory pertains to Sally and her rant about homosexuals but if a man rapes a women any where in the universe, including space, then it is still rape. If it is just the two of them in the space station, then the woman could either cut off his penis or kill the pig. Either way would be OK. She has to protect herself first. Consenting homosexual adults are not raping each other when they have sex if that's where your "theory" was heading.

  • You know, Iused to be gay. It wasn't until jsut recently that I got saved. I would say that I believe in God, but I never really ment it in my heart. I am a Christian now and I know I have always liked girls. I was jsut so rebeliant against the world. I am bogging to try to help other people who have labeled themselves gay. I am trying to help you realize what I know now. No one is born gay. You choose it. I understand now what a bad decition that was. Don't make the same mistake I did

  • PokeStirr, now that you have found God could you please find an English class. Perhaps a basic keyboard typing class might also add dimension and credibility to the the crap you want to spew forth! I'm a 52 year old gay man in a 32 year relationship and never once was rebellious, never once "woke up" and chose to be gay. Just am... God made me this way... who am I to challenge His decision? Sounds to me that you are the type of person that is the victim of the last person you talked to!!!

  • Dude I don't know about God and all that, but at least he stopped being a morally bad guy. He is not being gay anymore. You obviously are all pissed off because he hit a soft spot.

  • "The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of our population expresses human love & sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men & lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social & vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men & lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals." The American Psychological Association's Statement on Homosexuality, 1994-JUL

  • If U weren't attracted 2 men,u must not have been gay in your heart in the 1st place.A man can play with another man in experimentation, that doesn't mean he is gay. It's called curiosity.Just because U may have experimented 2 be rebellious doesn't mean that U can objectively speak for all people. There's a broad spectrum in human sexuality & many are not exclusively attracted 2 male or female. I am attracted 2 both genders. U obviously never meant 2 be gay in the 1st place.Speak 4 yourself.

  • PokeStirr, it sounds 2 me like U are in denial, using god as an easy answer to deny your true desires. If so, U are going against god's program which in itself is sinful. Who would want 2 choose 2 be gay when there are so many ignorant folks out there condemning them. U might as well choose to be muslim or black or asian. U need 2 face the facts that U are just fooling yourself, but probably by the time U do, U will have involved some poor woman U will leave 2 be a single mom.

  • You were born straight pokestirr, you made the choice to dabble in a life that was not yours. I was born a lesbian. I could have sex with a man, many men if I chose to. That would not make me straight because my attraction would always be for women. I would have to make myself tolerate men. There is no choosing to be a true homosexual. You can chose to be a make believe one but if you weren't born to be one then you will always revert back to what you were meant to be.

  • Oh, PokeStirr (with the added "s"!) You just can;t help yourself, can you?

    Folks - Just an FYI: PokeStirR is someone playing games with another user PokeStir in order to stir up trouble on a few video comment sections. Please ignore him, thanks!

  • Are you seriouse?

    He sounds lagit to me.

    But then again who doesn't.

  • Peepers - Quite serious. The PokeStirr (with 2 "r's" at the end) is a fraud who is an anti-gay twit out to play some sort of childish taunting. Check the video of Sally Kern that was posted by

    VictoryFund and see the real and fake PokeStir there.

  • And by the way, I think you're also one of the fakers as well (since your account was created at the same time.)

  • Toby, belief in god is not an automatic explanation 4 the beauty of earth & universe. It's an easy explanation aimed at pacifying humans in 2 believing they have an imaginary friend who's watching out 4 them & takes requests called prayers. The fact is that we really don't know how the universe came 2 be, but the story in Genesis is a joke. You'd be surprised how many otherwise rational humans actually believe in such fairy tales. The fact is, we are all alone. Deal with it!

  • You do know that the bible is a myth right? Prove me wrong. Have God or Jesus send me an Email. BTW in that lil homo part of the bible it mentions not cutting the hair from the sides of your head or touching the flesh of a dead pig, play football lately hippy?

  • Ok, you must be a born again ABORTION

  • Wow, all that U said applies 2 yourself!U put gays in a box with preconceived shallow ideas of what it means 2 b a gay & your lack of understanding causes U 2 reject the facts plus then U choose the parts of the bible 2justify your JUDGING of OTHERS which is very clearly condemned in your bible. Gays cannot choose how they are wired or which gender they are attracted 2, yet this is obvious to those of us with more than half a brain. U have a lot 2 learn.

  • Gee, tell that 2 my STRAIGHT female friend who enjoys having her husband's penis deep inside her rectum and virginia!

  • My thoughts exactly! Why should we tolerate YOUR anti-christian hateful comments, judgements, when U should be 'loving thy neighbor'? The church wants U to 'fear' this selfish god delusion so that they can turn U against your own nature, which includes lustful desires, envy of your neighbor's ox & ass plus stop your greed, not 2 mention pride-while they control you & take your tax-free money 2 promote their agenda!

  • When will people realize that there is NO gay agenda!!!! Anyone who thinks that is simply paranoid beyond belief (Hitler) and needs some serious psychological help. NEVER have I (or anyone else I know that's gay) wanted to brainwash children or any other str8 ppl. Apparently, many ppl haven't watched To Catch a Predator on Dateline...those guys are ALL STR8 (doctors,dentists and REVERENDS, Sally!)!! So who's the one's wanting to get kinky with kids, huh??!!!

  • You may also live in Oklahoma but just because you live in oklahoma dosnt mean she represents you as a matter of fact she dosnt represent you AT ALL. due to the fact that you dont even live in the area that she is the senator of. so AGAIN you are confused about what you are talking about. You're a pastor maybe you know this verse psalms28: Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent,and discerning if he holds his tongue.

  • He has a right no matter where he lives to speak out against intolerance, hatred and bigotry. That is the American way. Sally also has the right to speak her mind, just as homosexuals and tolerant and accepting people have a right to deny her words as any form of logical thinking.

  • and besides you are VERY confused sally has NEVER said "gay people are trying to make all strait people gay" so i find it very interesting that you flat out lie, or you don't know any better. one of the two

  • By claiming the homosexual agenda is trying to indoctrinate children is school as young as age 2 (personally I don't know of any children in school at the age of 2 but whatever)she is making it appear like the homosexuals are trying to indoctrinate the homosexual life into the children, in other words, make them gay. Yeah, that's the way it sounds to many people. No matter how you look at her, she still comes off as a bigoted, hate filled old crone.

  • And you have no problem with Sally Kern's lie that homosexuals have the most diseases, when it has been statistically proven that obesity is by far the largest cause of disease in the US - and she is certainly an example of that!

    Apparently she never read her "book of love" and its reference to gluttony.

  • and you call yourself a "pastor" have you ever read the bible do you know what it says?

  • Even the Roman Catholics are looking past the antiquated ideas of the bible. Why don't you catch up with them. As for Russia, could their population be down because so many of their people are fleeing the nation because of the way it's governed? Why not try thinking realistically instead of putting out bogus information. People like you are worse than terrorist. Misinformation is highly dangerous.

  • This is a rediculous video. Homosexuality is more dangerous than islam. If you look at other countries like russia they have such a problem with procreation that vladamir puton created a national pro-creation holiday... wow ironic who would ever think that there would be a day when there wasnt enough heterosexual sex to keep their population afloat?

  • Hey goforthowar, maybe U should take a trip to Louisiana and check out Mardi gras. Plenty of parading around there by heteros. Sorry, but god designed the program, which 4 some happens 2 include same sex attraction. Are U implying that such individuals should be forced 2 live a life of lies or would U rather they just be denied the basic human need 2 be loved? How selfish! Consider taking a walk in their shoes, you'd change your mind really quick.

  • Gee, straights have spirits of lust too, maybe that's because we're all HUMAN BEINGS. Lust is part of our internal programming that the church wants us 2 suppress in effort 2 put us at odds with ourselves by turning us against our true nature. It seems awful cruel 4 a god to design creatures with lustful desires 4 the same & opposite genders only to condemn us for utilizing the program. Sounds more like govt propaganda aimed at keeping some level of social control. PS freright learn 2 spell.

  • "

    allah does not approve of homosexual behavior"

    That's OK, I don't approve of allah. That's makes the playing field equal in my book.

  • I have seen grown men with the metal faces and baggy pants. Maybe they are trying to feel young? I don't know but they do exist along with the tattooed men (and women), you know the ones who have tattoos covering just about every inch of exposed skin including parts of their face. To me, that looks rather freaky. They think it looks cool I guess. But, they have a right to look the way they feel. I just ignore them. :)

  • I think they are freaky... they try to stand out, just like the "girly" homosexual. They want attention. Then everyone gets mad when they get it.

  • I don't know, I guess my best suggestion would be if you see overly feminine gay guys in the streets, then just view them as you would clowns at the circus. Laugh at them and keep on walking. Don't give them the attention you say they crave. I laugh at the jerks who show their asses to the world and the "metal faces". [continued...]

  • Because I look at them with humor, I find not reason to let their appearance anger me. Not constantly thinking about a gays sex life might help you out some too since I feel that's mainly what upsets most str8 people.

  • You have a good point stillautumn, but the difference is the metal face butt showers don't have an agenda. They don't want our kids to accept it as "normal behavior" they are proud to be different and hope it makes us mad.(continued)

  • The metal face butt showers are not trying to take marriage away from us. Since the beginning, marriage has always been between a man and a woman. We should be able to keep that to keep the American family strong. The tv producers don't force butt showers down our throats. Did you ever notice on tv that the gay man is an intellectual articulate being, while the straight man is a backwoods hick? (continued)

  • In my opinion, you can keep marriage. I haven't seen where it really works anyway. People get married on a whim & divorced just as quickly as they marry. Trust me, you str8's need no help in ruining that institution. The idea of it is already ruined with far to many divorces & cheating spouses. Marriage is something the church created anyway. Seeing as I don't follow church law, I'd rather they stay out of my union. I'm fine with legal unions. I like the idea of getting something fresh & new.

  • Except of course that that's not true. First of all, monogamous marriage has been far and away the exception, rather than the rule, for all of human history. If you want evidence of this, you need look no further than Abraham Sara and Hagar. Furthermore, even in the Hebrew scriptures, which so many (recklessly) cite on this point, we see divinely-sanctioned same-sex romantic/sexual relationships between such figures as Ruth and Naomi, Jonathan and King David, and Daniel and TBC

  • Nebuchadnezzar's "palace master." To say nothing of the presence of same-sex romanticosexual unions in virtually every human society until they were driven underground around the end of the middle ages. So, if you want heterosexuals to be better portrayed in art, you should try not to appear so ignorant in life. (Responding specifically to gwbush100)

  • are you kidding me? lol apparently you've never read the Bible is you believe any of that crap dummyheadbubba

  • 1 Timothy 2:11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. - Here's a good verse. Looks like Sally Kern is prohibited from holding public office over a constituency with adult males. But you don't seem concerned. Do you just pick the verses you like?

  • Of course I've read the Bible. Many times. That's kind of a requisite for a graduate degreee in Theology. And, unlike you, I actually understood what I read.

  • I know you are going to say that gays don't have an agenda, they just want to be accepted. I disagree. If they wanted to be accepted then they would conduct themselves in a more acceptable manner. Thanks for your replies by the way. It is nice to have a civilized conversation about this.

  • Not all gays are shall we say "showy"? You'd be amazed at just how many gay people you encounter in a given day. Gays are all professions, they are business people, health care professionals, armed forces, politicians, teachers, police officers, fire fighters, builders, etc. Don't judge all gays by the "showy" ones. Yes, we have an agenda. We want equal protection from hate crimes and the right to legally unite with our partners so our families are secure in case something happens to us.

  • So that we might adopt our children in the families we create. Right now only a few states allow us to become the adoptive parent of our partners child even though we may have been together for years. What if something was to happen to the child's legal parent? Guess what, the surviving partner loses the child because he/she has nothing legal tying him/her to the child. So the child is ripped away from the only other parent they have ever known.

  • Hospitals can keep a long term partner from their ailing partner if it choses to. Why? Because they are not considered family. Imagine being kept from your wife while she lays dying in a hospital.

    Everyone in this entire world has an agenda. EVERYONE. Our agenda is simple. Equality across the board.

  • My children understood that though I did not agree with tats, metal in their face or low hung pants, I wasn't going to control them. The went through their phases, did everything listed but soon found out it wasn't them. Children do grow to be who they are meant to be. So if their taught acceptance, that's not the same as saying acceptance will make them that what they are accepting.

  • Of course, that assumes that the GLBT community is behaving in an unacceptable manner. If they are, I've yet to see evidence of it. What am I missing? How has the GLBT community as a whole (and not just a few unrepresentative members, lest the heterosexual community be tarred with the same brush) behaved unacceptably? And by what standard is their collective behavior unacceptable? According to whom?

  • I am trying to understand gayness better.... Help. Gay men are attracted to men right? If that is the case then why do they act like woman. I don't get it.... Anybody?

  • Y'know I have a cool story just for you Goforthtowar. On the weekend I was out at a bar getting smashed to celebrate my sister's birthday with her & all of her friends. And that was the night I first told her that I was a fag. She smiled and gave me a hug and said that she's glad I told her, that she loves me and is proud of me for the person I am.

    So, my sister has proven to me that she is bigger than your God, she is more compassionate and more loving than your God. Your make-believe God.

  • "God is telling you to repent, thru ME" -

    God has spoken to me and he's telling me to tell you to,

    "Shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen and make me some blueberry pie." - God.

  • Uncleanliness through lust of his own ego for ultimate power to try and match the power of God. This is the mark of a modern day warrior crusader who claims to fight for God but truly fights for his own selfish greed. A greed that forces him to lust for the power to be a god here on earth. (Remember your words? God is saying I must repent through you? Not Jesus Christ after all? hmmm.) Sounds remarkably like the devil. Have you two met already? Taking your lessons from him?

  • Quote: "we intend to make the antigays look so nasty that average Americans will want to dissociate themselves from such types."

    Oh trust me, you good ol' boys need no help there. You do a find job of making yourselves look nasty (I'll even add vile here). Normal people want nothing to do with you. You are of an era long since past. The days of the Crusaders ended for a reason. God did not like their style. He wants no warriors. He only wants peace, love and acceptance from all His creations.

  • Yes it is nice that I know God. That is what keeps me happy in my life. The fact that I know God's love. It fills me with light so that there is no room for hate. You should try it sometime...let His light in. It'll fill you and make you happy, not hateful.

  • Repent through you? I don't think so. You take yourself far too seriously and your ego is much too big for God's kingdom. You'd better deflate a bit or you'll never get to meet Him. Right now God has nothing but sorrow for you. He understands though that you are a simple misguided creature. As soon as you let go of your anger, hatred, bigotry and ego, He'll find room in your heart to be able to reside within you again. Even His light is finding it hard to pierce your blackness.

  • No, you're still wrong. Ignorant men call "my kind" an abomination. I fear ignorant men even less than I do God and seeing as I don't fear God one iota...I think you're smart enough to figure out the rest. Seeing as you'll have so much extra time now, how about you go and do whatever it is you religious zealots do to cleanse your souls. As for the rib, it's your book that created the myth. Don't like it? Talk to your church about it.

  • Quote: yea if youd read the bible , God made the wicked for the day of destruction, thats what fag means , its material for the fire,

    Ahahahahahahaha!!!! Now THAT is the funniest thing I've ever heard!!! I didn't know the bible had humor in it too! I just might have to reread the thing after all! I do so love a good comedy! Hahahahahahahahaha!

  • It's totally the same. We love, we commit to each other, we raise children together, we fight, we make up, we work, we own homes, have children & some of us even we go to church every Sunday. Yup, just the same as heteros do. God did not bend down from the heavens and whisper those words in your ear. When He Himself tells me my life is wrong, then I MIGHT do something about it. But I don't see how I could since it's who I was born to be. Besides, my book tells me that God loves me just as I am.

  • Yeah yeah, and Adam and Eve ate the apple and so because of this woman was to crawl around on her belly for the rest of mankind. Bleh...that's all bogus too. BTW, you want your rib back? I don't need it. I can stand strong without it. I think you need it more than I anyway. You're going to need all the help you can get with this crusade of yours. How about some ear plugs so you don't hear the people laughing at you too? No?..OK, just thought I'd be neighborly and offer...

  • Are you celibate? Do you give up your desire for sex for your God? If so, then I have to say you're even more warped than I thought. God intended for sex to be pleasurable other wise He wouldn't have invented orgasms, lol Go enjoy life! Have some fun, enjoy some sex, get a girlfriend and have a happy committed relationship. Stop worrying about those that are not your concern. It makes God sad to see you so miserable.

  • I'm single at the moment, actually I've been single for 14 years or so. I'm just not a relationship type person. I like my freedoms. Just like the hetero relationships and the demands within, gay relationships are the same. So lets see, single for 14 yrs. No sex with another during that time and I'm still attracted to women, just don't sleep with them because I don't sleep around. Guess what? In spite of it all, I"m still a lesbian! So I guess it's not all about sex. Tell me, are you celibate?

  • You can not say I lie when you do not know how I feel on the inside. I AM A WOMAN WHO LOVES ANOTHER WOMAN! I AM A LESBIAN! I LOVE, I HAVE A FAMILY! MY KIDS GREW UP STRAIGHT AND I LOVE THEM STILL! Could you say the same about your own children if they grew up to be gay you black hearted god hating dumbass?

  • The homosexual life is so much more than just sex. It's the same as the heterosexual life, just with two people of the same sex. I do have a choice. I can be who I was born to be or I can choose to make you happy. I will live who I was born to be thank you. Your happiness means nothing to me just as my happiness means nothing to you.

  • Homosexuality is an attraction to the same sex. Some homosexuals are even celibate within their relationships. I do not make you sick. Your perverted mind in the bedrooms of other people make you sick. Homosexuals love their partners and their families. It's about attraction, commitment and love, love love! Just the way it's suppose to be in the hetero life. We can even make babies! The lesbians have uteruses and the gay males have sperm. Everything we need to help keep the human race going. :D

  • Oh and for the record, I don't hate you either. I just don't understand why you can't grasp the fact that I was meant to exist. That millions of others world wide who are like me were meant to exist. We are born to be who we are. We are living our truth yet you and others like you would have us lie to ourselves and not be who we are because you and other religious people have deemed it not normal? It's as normal as heterosexual. We've been on this earth just as long as heterosexuals have been.

  • stillautumn, You say that Gay people are exactly the same as me. I think I may know what the problem is. It's the same problem we have with Muslims. The "normal" ones are just that, normal. We don't pay them much attention. But the other 40% are raging lunatics. You have to admit that the "flaming" homosexual that wears his sexuality on his sleeve is not looking for peace with what I would call "normal" people. Like Muslims, "normal" gays need to let extremists know they are hurting ur cause

  • I can't see how "flaming gays" hurt our cause at all. They are just expressing themselves. Sort of like the "normal" heterosexuals that walk around with more metal attached to their bodies than junk yards have or the "normal" straight guys that walk around with the waist line of their jeans down somewhere around their knee caps. Gay guys like the ones you speak of are just more in touch with their feminine side (it sort of encompasses most of their being).

  • The metal face, baggy pants kids piss me off too. But, in their defense they are kids. I never see anyone over the age of 25 doing this. If you saw dogs walking around acting like cats you wouldn't think it was strange "not normal".  It's the same thing when you see a man acting like a woman. That brings me to another thing I'm confused about. I am running out of space so I will post that thought separately.

  • Have you ever seen a marriage where the husband stayed home & the wife went to work? Where the wife ruled the roost & the husband was the submissive one? I have. I see nothing wrong with that set up either. It's their life & their marriage. It doesn't affect me one bit & I don't think it would affect their kids any either. We all grow up to play the roles we are meant to play. Whatever feels right within a person is how they're going to be. No matter what some1 else's version of right & wrong is

  • I think men like them are just threats to your masculinity. Feel more secure about yourself and you may find they don't bug you so much. Unlike radical Muslims, these guys don't kill for their religion or for any cause.

  • ummm... christians had killed non-christians in de name of their religion and they still do inn de USA today.

  • I do feel secure about myself. I do hate to see American men feminized though. Even straight men wear hair product and pierce their ears. Little boy are encouraged to cry. Have you seen some of these kids on American idol?? What happened to the men of our grandfathers era?

  • "What happened to the men of our grandfathers era?"

    They grew up and realised they didn't have to be the tough, harsh, non compassionate men of your grandfathers era. That was good for the days of an uncivilized land but we don't need the tough macho all full of themselves men of that generation. What's wrong with crying? Studies have shown that if you let boys get in touch with their emotions instead of locking them up, they grow up to be less angry individuals. I see nothing wrong with that.

  • For the record.... I don't hate gays or lesbians. I just don't understand them and I don't want my kids to be told that it's a "normal" lifestyle. I think that Sally is looking out for "our" best interests.

  • gwbush, I'm glad you don't want your kids to be taught that it's a normal lifestyle. You see, it's not a lifestyle, it's a life. Gay life, lesbian life, heterosexual life. They are all lives that people are born into. The only thing that kids need to be taught is that just like there's different colors of people (what would you classify a normal color for mankind?) there's also different sexual orientations. They will be of one orientation while someone else will be another.

  • In the end, both heterosexual and homosexual people are all about love and family. Yes, gays can have families too. We teach our kids about str8 people and that they will probably grow up to be str8 also and that it's OK that they be different from us because God loves all, not just a select few.

  • I apologise for the initial double post. I guess the site had a hiccup. ;)

  • Think beyond the box. Cut a window and see God's light. He awaits you outside that box and still offers you the knowledge to make the recipe better. :)

  • This is God's way: We should start with a foundation (religion) & build apon it. A person's religion should always be just a foundation. It should never become the house because most zealots who build a house with their religion forget to put the windows & doors in. Then they live their lives stuck in a box eating from the same recipe. No wonder they get angry and hateful. They blame God for the box & the unchanging recipe when it is they who built the box and refuse to deviate from the recipe.

  • Now apply all that to people who live for the bible (symbolised in this by a recipe, the church symbolised by the school) and the people who never deviate from this book. Then think of the ones who read the book, saw how it could work but felt it didn't offer enough so they set out into the world to make the book (recipe) better. God is the creator. He made us to be creators also.

  • They will in their own way expand apon their knowledge by doing their own seeking into a better dish instead of being led to one. These are the true chefs for they believe in themselves enough to find their own way without using the same teaching, the same recipe that everyone else is studying under. They will be the different and in the end, they become the great ones, the chefs that everyone remembers and listens to.

  • Yes, I do believe some people can wake up one day and become a chef. Some people are born with the knowledge and need no further guidance in their passion. Some people are born with some knowledge and need guidance to find their way completely in it. Those that do not believe in themselves enough will carry the recipes from school always and cook strictly from those.Others who have been born with the knowledge already will take what they know and create extraordinary wonders with it.

  • Yes, I do believe some people can wake up one day and become a chef. Some people are born with the knowledge and need no further guidance in their passion. Some people are born with some knowledge and need guidance to find their way completely in it. Those that do not believe in themselves enough will carry the recipes from school always and cook strictly from those.Others who have been born with the knowledge already will take what they know and create extraordinary wonders with it.