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  • pessimist.... werent you in the movie "Idiocracy" ?

  • you may be the worst kind of critic...more full of yourself than any charlatan IMHO.

    He should thank you?  lol.

  • your a moron.

    are you a jew also?

  • You cannot use the force on the mounting surface so it remains a Potential energy. Because of this you can calculate the efficiency of a certain magnet Eff=(PE/KE+Friction+Losses)x10­0. You know what because of this overunity in magnet motor does not exist. No one can harness the full potential of any magnet. ITs the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Its entrophy rises over time.

  • however if this magnet is a cube then you have 4 corners that can lift a certain object on its side,you cannot use all the PE because physically near impossible, you need to mount the magnet to pull the object.

  • If you measure the total force stored in a certain magnets you can use the total force to estimate the potential energy. THis means that if a magnet can lift 1KG at say 20mm away you can estimate the KE on that side

  • I agree with Nokilt1. There is PE in magnets and only can harness its KE if you apply external interferences like coils or other magnets. THe magnetic field circulating in the magnet from N to S is it self the PE of the magnet. Its invisible energy.

  • "Its invisible energy."

    No. It is a force, not energy.

  • Desertphile, Its both a force and possess PE.

  • There is energy stored in the magnetic field . This energy is continuously replenished by the aligned electron spins

    this information is available at physforum

  • That "energy" cancels itself out since it is sinusoidal: it therefore cannot be used to perform work.

  • check out electron entanglement through the nasa website for why thats no longer accepted as correct

  • "check out electron entanglement through the nasa website for why thats no longer accepted as correct"

    There is no energy in magnetic fields unless one adds energy to them.

  • i can see that you dont intend to ever consider anything else besides your own preconcieved notion

    i've already sent you enuf stuff to fully refute your claim, from simple laymans stuff to nasa, chemical and electron reasons you are wrong

    i shall send no more

    i wish you the best in your pursuit of untruth

  • "i can see that you dont intend to ever consider anything else....."

    Reality is not a matter of opinion.

  • exactly why i sent you enuf stuff to alert you to reality

  • Permanent Magnet Design and Application Handbook, by Lester Moskowitz, Cahners Books International, Boston, MASS 1976, in Chapter 6, Fundamentals of Magnetism.

  • permanent magnets most certainly do contain energy/potential energy. and they decay over time releasing that energy.i could forward you a rather lengthy paper explaining it if you'd like. oryou could do the old iron filings on a piece of paper trik they did for us in grade school.magnetic field moves the iron filings. that requires energy to do .law of conservation of energy my friend.

    peace

  • "permanent magnets most certainly do contain energy/potential energy."

    No.

  • no?

    then what moves the iron filings?

    the magnetic field, right?

    and the law of conservation of energy says it can be neither created nor destroyed

    so to move something requires energy...

    i'm not saying crap about stupid magnet motors

    but i just proved in laymans terms that magnets contain energy

    so, not no, YES

    the force of attraction or repulsion varies inversely with the distance squared

    key word 'force'

  • "then what moves the iron filings?"

    The placement of iron filing in a magnetic field provides the energy to move the iron filing.

  • what?

    the energy of me placing the filings onto the piece of paper provides the energy for them to move?

    is that what you are saying?

    that is intuitvely wrong

    lokk...i think the whole magnet motor thing wont in principal operate, but your argument for why is not correct

    stored chemical potential energy, electron spin are in fact energy

    there is stored potential energy in a piece of wood...burn it and you get heat

    its the same only different

  • "the energy of me placing the filings onto the piece of paper provides the energy for them to move?"

    That is correct.

  • you are definitely on glue

  • r u that crazy shouty guy out of police academy

  • "r u that crazy shouty guy out of police academy"

    What? I only know English.

  • Hey Desert.... I took DweezelBulb up on another challenge and he owes me money too!

    The noive of that guy! He's a dirty rat! lol

  • "Hey Desert.... I took DweezelBulb up on another challenge and he owes me money too!"

    I see he has a 5,000 Euros "challenge" also, which cracks me up. He already lost his mlotorcycle, so now he wants to give away money he doesn't have. Sheeeish.

  • Gosh people..i did a Wiki on magnetic field energy and found...

    In cgs, the energy density U contained in a magnetic field B is...B squared divided by 8 pi.

    If they can measure the DENSITY of the energy in a amgtnetic flux field...doesn't that mean their is energy available in a magnetic field?? DUH??

  • Upchukker, it's actually (8*pi*10^-7), and that is because the permeability of free space is by definition 4*pi*10^-7, just as the permittivity of free space is by definition the speed of light squared divided by 10^7, as I recall. Of course, if the field isn't in free space, it's a little different. In a linear material you just use the relative permability of the material times that of free space. If it exhibits saturation and stops being linear, the formula involves an integral.

  • Oops, no that can't be right, permittivity is supposed to be something like 10^-11 so it can't be c^2/10^7. I got it upside down. The 10^7 is in the numerator and the c^2 is in the denominator, along with another 4*pi. That gives me 8.85 x 10^-12 and that's probably it. permittivity times permeability is supposed to be 1/c^2 which is why c is the speed of light, it's the wave speed predicted by maxwell's equations using permittivity and permeability of free space....

  • "...doesn't that mean their is energy available in a magnetic field?"

    Magnetic fields do not contain energy that can be used to perform work.

  • Again, YES, THEY DO. You're not quoting me, by the way. I would never mix up there, their or they're, you're quoting upchukker. Watch my video which I used as a response to your first one. Part one is QMlUBTbtwuw and part two is 7La4XlURCWg in the video ID. I have explained reality. Or look at the PM I sent you earlier.

    And you talk about others not acknowledging YOU explaining reality.... So acknowledge or be the same as that dezzielightbulb, or worse since your explanation wasn't reality.

  • do you have cerebral palsy?

  • Wow! You guys need a hobby, it just take a dump to disproof another's dump theory LOL! I bet you guys they don't now how to ride a bike, one look like a crack head and the other look like a retard, It this a joke or what? I bet if you put them together you can create a magnet one is the North Pole and one is the South Pole. Dump asses talking about science I see everything now, I can RIP.... LOL!

  • Hahaha... let us remind "dizzy+something" that the clock is ticking!

    Everytime you update you clock... let us remind him again...

    Maybe he'll come around?

  • Man,you're wasting your time trying reason w/ these types of R-TARDS,(unless it's all for shits and giggles.)Judging by the other videos that guy has posted, he seems to also believe that reptiles rule the world. Anyhow, your response videos are always funny and intertaining. But,has any creationist, free energy "theorist", scientoligist, and the like, ever told you that they were wrong?Nobody will get that bike, and if he does respond,it will be just more delusional horseshit-still funny tho

  • can I have the motor bike? I'll ride that sucker!

  • I do hope your clock is capable of scientific notation... :-)

  • lol

  • Didn't your Mother teach you not to argue with Crazy People

  • Remember the DaneilLevesque video you responded to where he said that evolution was not a threat to Christianity (and went on to deny it anyhow)?

    See if you can find my post(s) presenting all the reasons I could think of off the top of my head why Jesus didin't exist. That conversation died right there.

  • I think I realized what's wrong. Dezzielightbulb007's brain is a magnet motor.

  • a big thanks for clearing up the toyroom & would've certainly been in order & nothing???

    roflmfao

  • that sounds more like dizzy so & so

  • Even if it could work...how could you get rotational force from permanent magnets? In a motor the electro-magnets are turned on and off in order to make the rotor turn. With permanent magnets the magnetic field is always on.

  • do you believe in magic?

  • it is so obvious - if these existed you would see them all over the damn place. in your toaster, air conditioner, blow dryer, blah blah blah. and don't tell me about conspiracies- exxon would use these magic motors to power the dern oil pumps, if they existed.

  • And they really call it free fuckin energy too, wtf? Where the hell do they think the "free" energy goes after its application? Magically does it all just go back into the fucking system? Are they fuckin with us?

  • "Where the hell do they think the 'free' energy goes after its application?"

    The belief is that magnetic fields contain energy that can be used to perform work: accelerating a mass over a distance. This has been known to be impossible for many centuries, since many people have tried it. Quantum physics has proven, mathematically, that it is impossible. Why the bloody hell these "free energy" cultists just somehow do not "get" it is beyond me.

  • They think like cult members you know that. Reality is lost to the insane.

  • "Reality is lost to the insane."

    I would settle for a simple "Desertphile, you're wrong and here's why: __________" but they never tell me why I'm wrong. *NEVER!*

  • 'I would settle for a simple "Desertphile, you're wrong and here's why: __________" but they never tell me why I'm wrong. *NEVER!*'

    I have, and you haven't settled for it. You have just said 'no, you're wrong' over and over again. Like the mule that says "No, Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose. I win."

    I REPEAT! GO TO WIKIPEDIA. ENTER IN THE WORDS "Magnetic Field". GO TO SECTION 8.3.1. READ. GO TO GOOGLE. SEARCH MAGNETIC ENERGY STORAGE. DON'T LIKE WIKIPEDIA? PLENTY OF UNIVERSITY WEBSITES WITH IT!

  • Wikipeida:

    That section immediately says "we need to do work to establish a free current"

    That work is from an outside source and is what's putting the energy into the battery.

    Google:

    This is not a valid research tool.

    University websites:

    Provide links.

  • Yes, you need to do work to establish a free current. And that energy is stored where? In the magnetic field.

    When I try to give links, it refuses to post in the comment section. It says "post comment" instead of "comment posted", and then it's as if it never happened, it doesn't post. I will therefore send you a private message with MANY, MANY university website links. Since you're too lazy to get them on your own or unwilling to admit you found them.

  • "I will therefore send you a private message with MANY, MANY university website links."

    I would have been interested, but you decided to be abrasive in your private message.

    Since you're unable to be civilized, you've been blocked.

  • That's right, if you want to denounce everything I said, blindly agree with DP & be too much of a nitwit to do research yourself because you wholeheartedly expected there to BE no supporting evidence that magnetic fields contain energy even though it's easy to find dozens of university & government websites showing that it does just with a google search for "magnetic field energy", then YES, I'll be abrasive. I'd also be abrasive if you said 'show me ONE piece of evidence supporting darwinism'.

  • « no supporting evidence that magnetic fields contain energy »

    Magnetic fields *can* store energy. You'd have to put it in first. And you can't do that with a permanent magnet.

  • No XGralgrathor, it doesn't matter what is the source of the magnetic field just like it doesn't matter if you have a ton of lead, gold or feathers, they all weigh a ton, and they have the same gravitational field too.

    If you had two magnetic field sources, one a permanent magnet, one something else, and they each had a field strength of one tesla (10000 gauss), each of their magnetic fields would have an energy density of 397.9 kilojoules per cubic meter. It doesn't matter where it comes from.

  • He might be trying to run his clock on magnet motor energy. So it may be a little slow.

  • "He might be trying to run his clock on magnet motor energy. So it may be a little slow."

    ROTFL! But hell, such a clock would be correct twice a day!

  • WTF? You mean there's still people trying to create that perpetual energy shit? Where the fuck do they think thee energy in the fucking system cums from? Magic? A bulk universe propose in sting-theory? If it's the latter, then they've achieved something a little more significant than a weak little motor and I would have thought it would require a smidge more effort as well lol.

    It's funny because they're pretentious about the simple physics they don't understand.

  • "WTF? You mean there's still people trying to create that perpetual energy shit?"

    Mercifully there are also many people in YouTube who know better and say so in the "free energy" video's comments.

    It is freaky to see "free energy" proponents start spewing bullshit about "they used to say Earth was flat" when they are told magnetic fields are static, zero-charged, and therefore cannot perform work without energy being added. As if a flat Earth was still considered by science!

  • May I have the moterbike if you don't want it? I'll be your best friend.

  • Helping people is a thankless job, you've proved it. Thank you.

  • I think it's more likely he'll send you his motorcycle than come up with a working model of a magnetic no-fuel motor, but that's not saying much.

  • "I think it's more likely he'll send you his motorcycle than come up with a working model of a magnetic no-fuel motor...."

    Gods and Goddesses! I'd much rather have a "free energy" device than a motorcycle: I'd sell it for BILLIONS of dollars at auction. It would be worth, literally, hundreds of billions of dollars.

    But yeah, I'd like a motorcycle to use around the ranch. It sure beats rounding up calves on horseback.

  • It's funny how much slower people are to respond when they've been proven wrong, huh?  lol

  • "It's funny how much slower people are to respond when they've been proven wrong, huh? lol"

    Hee hee! Yeah, it is funny how many people put far too much of their egos into wishful thinking. Happily there are many people who cheerfully and readily thank people when being corrected (I've made several videos of myself doing so, for example). The clown in question appears to have a hell of a lot more problems (emotional and intellectual) than belief in "free energy" judging by his behavior.

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