Oh thank U 4 being so generous & letting me present factual information I do not know how I am speaking out of my azz when much of da information I have presented can B looked up & verified I just felt that some of the information in da documentary was inaccurate & felt it was important 2 correct it I admired Anthropologist Juan Rodriguez Acosta in da documentary because his information was factual & honest as well as Giovanni Cordoba Alright documentary it starts da Conversation on AfroLatinos
@chsn09 Es la verdad no te gusta? You don't like the truth. It is not spam it is the truth and if you see people flagging it for spam please hit the not spam button. People like to hide the truth. All my information is factual and not opinionated like most of the trash that is written. It comes from independent sources who are experts on the field as well as historical documents. I have a life it is combating lies and misinformation. I am here to expose the truth not hide it or distort it.
@chsn09 Also why should I leave. if you have the right to your opinion and misinformation then why do I not have the right post factual information that is truthful. I never tell people to get lost or get the fuck off the board. I just come back with the correct facts from other independent sources that have meticulous documentation on history and events. If you here someone not speaking the truth then you need to speak up and correct them instead of being quiet or else it ends up affecting you
@ElJamon4Me DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT! ALL I'M DOING IS LETTING YOUR ASS KNOW THAT YOU ARE ARE TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS AND BREATHING HOT AIR!!!! ANYWAY YOU HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OVER! PLEASE CONTINUE!!! GOODBYE
Now unlike Argentinean who have declared themselves the whitest country in Latin America which is used as a source of pride. Mexicans do not care about being Anglos or Gringos. Recently 2 Arizona white racist talked bad about Mexican people with lies about of the Mexican people & who they are. I will add some video links so you can see most of them say racist white bitc#es or Racist Gringas. You will also see they are not trying to portray themselves as white even if they are light skin Latinos.
Now lets look at one of Mexico's hottest Telenovela stars David Zepeda Quintero (born 19 September 1974; Nogales, Sonora), represented Mexico La Fuerza del Destino - So begins his journey to the United States, crossing the border illegally, still recovering from the beating and fighting the natural elements of the dessert between Mexico and the United States.
He is portraying a Undocumented Mexican so how is he trying to be Anglo White?
La Fuerza Del Destino Capitulo 8 [David Zepeda] Parte 8/8
copy and paste in youtube search bar.....HBO Ring Life - Juan Manuel Márquez (Español)..... Un guerrero Azteca es. Bascially he said he was an Aztec Warrior.
Just copy & Paste in youtube search bar.... HBO Boxing: Ring Life - Canelo Alvarez (HBO)...
Just copy and paste in youtube search bar... Conferencia de prensa para Julio César Chávez Jr. vs. Sebastian Zbik...
All this info can be verified on Wikipedia as well as IMBD. Now lets look at Mexicans on youtube & see how they look. First lets look at some popular people of Mexican descent & then not so popular(regular people) Ok first famous person Cain Velasquez what does it say on his chest? Brown Pride. Just copy & paste in youtube search bar.
Other Cast Members. Michelle Ramaglia Zavala (born May 18, 1978 in Mexico City, Distrito Federal) is a Mexican actress. Alejandro Ávila is a Mexican actor. Marco Méndez (born Marco Anibal Méndez Ramírez on October 1, 1976 in Uruapan, Michoacán) is a Mexican actor.Ignacio López Tarso (born Ignacio López López on January 15, 1925) is a Mexican actor Okay here is 2 of foreign born actors. Julián Elías Gil Beltrán (born June 13, 1970) is a Puerto Rican actor Jorge Aravena is Peruvian-Venezuelan
Other cast members Susana Alejandra González[1] (born October 2, 1973 in Calera de Víctor Rosales, Zacatecas) is a Mexican actress. Ana Martín (born May 14, 1947 in Mexico City) is a Mexican actress best known for her work in telenovelas, Ingrid Martz de la Vega (born September 17, 1979 in Mexico City, Distrito Federal) is a Mexican actress. Fabián Robles (born in León de los Aldama, Guanajuato, Mexico, on April 16, 1974) is a Mexican actor
The show stars Ana Brenda Contreras, Jorge Salinas, and Jose Ron as the main protagonists. Mar Contreras, and Susana González star as the main antagonists.
Ana Brenda Contreras (born December 24, 1986 in Rio Bravo, Tamaulipas, Mexico) is a Mexican actress and singer. orge Salinas Pérez (born July 27, 1968) is a Mexican television and film actor. Édgar José Ron Vázquez (born August 8, 1981 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico) is a Mexican actor. Top 3 stars all Mexican.
Here is a popular Novela in the U.S and Mexico shoot in Mexico and the lead actors are Mexican. La Que No Podía Amar (The One That Could Not Love) is a Mexican telenovela produced by José Alberto Castro for Televisa. Now just copy and paste words below in youtube search bar to see the 2 lead actors.
If you look at my prior writings on this subject you will find out the racial break down of the Mexican people, and even Mexican Americans so I do not want to rewrite it in the comment box you can look at it for yourself. I would also like to say that Mexican people must reflect how their people look because it makes sense and that makes money. Again also Univision was started by Mexicans & later sold off to an Egyptian but Mexicans still owns Televisa & tv Azteca. Lets look deeper in to this.
Okay at 21:52 Christopher Pares talks about Mexicans & says they are portraying to be white. "I do find it strange that White People are a minority in Mexico but they are a majority on Tv. I don't know who they are trying to fool". This is opinion based documentary and we know that like opinions are like aholes everyone has one. I wish they would of asked him how views himself as an Argentinean as well as how should Mexicans portray themselves on tv. I want to discredit his false accusation
@MrSivram28 You're 100% correct. The Africans that came and that brought here for some odd reason kept some African traditions. I read some where that the Catholics at the time did not care much to convert them just used them for labor. Sadly, the slave owners that owned African Americans the Brits who are the driest, bland culture in the world felt the need to destroy our customs which was not necessary. Fucking scum. The Romans said they were so stupid they could not even bee good slaves.
A Spanish term meaning "native born and raised," criollo historically was applied to both white and black non-indigenous persons born in the Americas. In the contemporary historical literature, the term usually means only people who in theory were of full direct Spanish ancestry, born in the Americas. In reality white Criollos could also have some native ancestry, but this would be disregarded for families who had maintained a certain status
This Racist Cuban girl goes off on Blacks & Mexicans & Spics. Just copy and paste in youtube search bar. Cubans should not be lumped in with Mexicans in Hispanic/Latino category. Caribbean White People of Spanish descent. Actually she is half white so Under the Casta system she is Criollo and not considered Anglo white. LOL
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Extreme Ignorance And Ratchetness Teen Goes On A Rant About
Type this in youtube search bar. Celia Cruz ....... La Negra Tiene Tumbao.......
Also notice how the American Flag is upside down in the video in 2;03 of the Celia Cruz video and the Mexican flag & Spanish flag are correct. Right side up. Intentional or a mistake? I will let you think about it. LOL Make sure it is her Official video. It should be on Vevo
When Celia Cruz sung La Negra Tiene Tumbao it was more than just a song it was a Political Statement. It was My people are just as worthy that they don't have to walk from behind. Mejor camina de frente. In other words be proud of who U R. She did not sing La Hispana tiene Tumbao or La Latina tiene Tumbao this was a direct message that has been ignored. She just played the game 4 Hispanics & Latinos who control the media but her message was to her afflicted Afro Cubano community & Afro Latinos.
It will happen this Century that the Castro Regime will get toppled & Cubans will no longer have their Wet Foot & Dry foot policy. Puerto Rico is a lot trickier but they want their independence from the United States of America & some want to stay & become more than a territory. the thing is that many people end up immigrating to Puerto Rico so they can become U.S Citizens. You don't think that the U.S is watching this? Eventually they may just give up Puerto Rico willingly to stop the inflow.
The thing is that Cubans don't know they haven't been here in the United States long enough. The Cuban Revolution started in 1953 and ended in 1959 & from that point Cuban fled in mass to the United States to avoid communism. Once the Castro Regime gets toppled they will be revoked from Wet/foot dry foot policy & will be treated exactly like Mexicans. Puerto Rico is part of the United States but if it gets its independence like it wants it will also be treated like Mexicans. This century watch.
Mexicans still wanted to show pride in there ancestry even if their own country is not as stable or as prosperous for everyone like many in the Mexican community want it to be. Also many Mexicans have been treated as 2nd class citizens in the United States in communities that predate Anglo settlers. Adding Puerto Ricans and Cubans in to the census with Mexicans may have been intentional to cause confusion which it has done to a great extent to other communities.
Now one may ask why did the Anglo Americans want to change Mexican identity in the United States in states like Tejas(Texas), New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, & California. Well since Mexico is the next door neighbor of the United States the Anglo Americans were worried with Reconquista of Mexican/Native Lands. However this was unlikely due to corruption of the Mexican government & poor wages in Mexico. This will never happen due to those factors but people still want to show pride.
When Cubans & Puertoricans started to populate the United States of America they began to lump them into the Hispanic/Latino category with Mexicans in 1960 about 52 years ago when there numbers began to increase in the United States. Again Hispanic & Latino has origins further back then the New world but was revived in the new world via Mexico. However trying to break Mexicans of their identity has not really worked because many still use Mexican American as opposed to Hispanic/Latino.
There were about 80,000 Mexicans living in the areas of California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas during the period of 1845 - 50. This is directly from Wikipedia- Treaty of Guadalupe. If you're trying to make a point please gather some facts to back up your cause. You obviously have a computer so Google it or Wikipedia. Good luck and hope I was able to help.
I got this from another person who had posted this as a comment and used it here. Sorry forgot the user id however he got it from wiki
My point is simple when the United States took over Mexican Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, & California with around 80,000 inhabitants of Mexican Ancestry but the Anglo whites did not want them to identify with Mexico any more so they needed to call them something else. Hispanic or Hispano was one choice and the other would be Latino. The Anglos did not want the Mexicans to classify as Mexicans because now they were part of the United States & were U.S citizens.
When the Narrator reads Hispanic Origin why does she start off with Cuba 3:05 when Cuba was added later to the census in 1960. It actually started off with Mexican because Mexican were using Hispanic & even Latino well b4 1960.
The 1960 census also used the title "Spanish-surnamed American" in their reporting data of Mexican Americans,
Added to Census or lumped together with
which included Cuban Americans, Puerto Ricans and others under the same category
The term Hispanic is derived from Hispanicus, which derived from Hispania) Hispania may in turn derive from Latin Hispanicus, or from Greek Ισπανία Hispania and Ισπανός Hispanos, probably from Celtiberian[5] or from Basque Ezpanna. The words Spain, Spanish, and Spaniard are of the same etymology as Hispanus, ultimately.Hispanus was the Latin name given to a person from Hispania (Portugal and Spain)during Roman rule.
lol PLEASE TRAVEL you will learn we of that is of the "new world" african based people is everywhere in the AMERICAS most so call latinos are BLACK (look at thier grand parents)
@17SAIMPOINT Sorry but this is a false statement because I know tons of Latinos that do not have a black Grandparent. It all depends on where you travel though. If you travel to the Caribbean it may be true but if you travel to Argentina or Mexico or other parts in Latin America this may not be the case. They may have an Native American grandparent in the main land continents like Argentina or Mexico. Their is some that have none but all white grand parents as well. Depends on family.
@17SAIMPOINT Now if you take Dominican Republic or Cuba or Puerto Rico the chances are greater because 85% of Dominican is African & this video the Professor said 90% & he lives there 22:30. Now Puerto Rico is anywhere from 40% to 20% Afro Population and Cuba is 40% up to 60% so it is possible. However again it depends on family so it is ignorant to claim that all Latinos have 1 black grand parent when you don't know every Latino family.
This is fabulous, I love it! Nicely done on the technical side, and great content. It's critical that we all understand the place of Africa in human history-it is the biological home of every living human on earth. It is the place where the first human civilizations flourish. And, as the place from which so many were taken against their will, it is a place of healing for those of the diaspora. The heritage of Africa in the Americas is great and deserves to be valued and given its due respect.
Although Telemundo has begun to change a bit in bringing darker actors in to the fold. However they are not competing with BET they are competing with other Networks of Hispanic/Latino that have a large white Latino audience. You also have Venevision as well as RCN from Colombia as well as Coral. Then u have TLN TeleLatino in Canada owned by Italians. It is a fierce market and no one wants to shake the boat with their base when it doesn't make monetary sense & it could have serious consequences
Univision was started by Mexicans and again they have an obligation first to make money and 2nd to appeal to their audience. Also they do have Mestizo not just White people on the programming since Mexico Mestizo population is a majority. Now if u talk about Telemundo which was started by Puertoricans then you might have a complaint due to the fact that at least 30% to 40% of Puerto Rico population is Afro Latino. You can't get any whiter but Puerto Rico does have a large White Latino population
Melissa Sandoval at 23:00 why does the Media represent Latinos the way that it does. First off they say it is Spanish tv which is a bit false it is Hispano tv. If you went to Spain like I have been you would see that the majority of people are white with light eyes. 2nd most Hispanic media is owned by White Hispanics for example Televisa who was started & owned by Mexicans. The Mexican population is White Mestizo & 1% is Afro Mexican. They provide programming to Univision.
the bureau has noted an increasing number of respondents who mark themselves as Hispanic origin but not of the White race.[25]
For certain purposes, respondents who wrote in "Chicano" or "Mexican" (or indeed, almost all Hispanic origin groups) in the "Some other race" category were automatically re-classified into the "White race" group.[27]
reports of "Other race" for respondents who wrote in Hispanic entries such as Mexican, Cuban, or Puerto Rican. In 1970, such responses in the Other race category were reclassified and tabulated as White.
@ElJamon4Me You copied and pasted all of your erroneous irrelevant info to me for one little comment I made to you? You're ridiculous.
Again estimates state that the Afro-Mexican population is anywhere between 3% to 6% of Mexico's total population.
Keep in mind that Afro-Mexican is an ethnic group. It's also a cultural group within Mexico so it's members will vary in terms of phenotype and proportions of African ancestry.
@chsn09 The reason I copy and paste information is because it is factual and independent of what I think. I am not here to make stuff up. Unlike you who make up percentages for some unknown reason. Again this information included various phenotype people like Mulattoes & Quadroon. It did not just count dark African people Mexico itself had Gente de Razon & Gente sin Razon so they are not new to this as well as being very meticulous with recording history.
@ElJamon4Me You're so funny. You call copying and pasting wikipedia without even reading or checking it a reliable and valid source? Your full of shit.
@ElJamon4Me From Minority Rights International, it states "There have been no official figures on the numbers of Mexicans of African descent since 1810, when a census found that black people made up 10 per cent of the total population. Most estimates now place their numbers at between 474,000 and 4.7 million.
@chsn09 LOL Mexico population is 113,500,000 Million people. Okay so let say that the Afro Population is 5 Million. We will round it up to be generous. Okay subtract 113500000 minus 5 million from total assuming that their are 5 million Afro Mexicans. You get 108,500,000 people you would still only get 2.17% of the population. Again like I said where do u get 3% to 6 % of the population. At first you said 5% of the population. Now you have changed & all of a sudden lowered your stats. U R Funny
@chsn09 Then add in the 31,700,000 Mexican American population which only 0.7% identified with being black race Afro Mexican and 47.3% identified as being white and 45.5 identified with being Mestizo with 5% identifying as other race which is Arab or Asian which includes Chinese & Filipino. Ecuador again when did we start talking about Ecuador. I thought we were talking about Mexico. It seems like you bloat the number because I have read the Afro Population is around 3% for Ecuador.
@chsn09 It says that the Afro Ecuadorian census says it is around 5% of the population but a Afro Ecuadorian study says it is around 8%. However, any study can be distorted or not factual depending on who does the study. Either way that is well under 10% of the population According to the info it states is 1.6 Million people but it criticizes the way the country does it census Like I said many of these countries have talked about have less African present than the U.S 12.2% a majority Anglo Pop
@chsn09 It says that the Afro Ecuadorian census says it is around 5% of the population but a Afro Ecuadorian study says it is around 8%. However, any study can be distorted or not factual depending on who does the study. Either way that is well under 10% of the population According to the info it states is 1.6 Million people but it criticizes the way the country does it census Like I said many of these countries have talked about have less African present than the U.S 12.2% a majority Anglo Pop
@chsn09 It says that the Afro Ecuadorian census says it is around 5% of the population but a Afro Ecuadorian study says it is around 8%. However, any study can be distorted or not factual depending on who does the study Either way that is well under 10% of the population According to the info it states is 1.6 Million people but it criticizes the way the country does it census Like I said many of these countries have talked about have less African present than the U.S 12.2% a majority Anglo Pop
@chsn09 You also must remember that many of these studies are Afrocentric which can tend to exaggerate facts depending on their agenda. One example is the migration of many Caribbean or West Indies people migrating to countries like Mexico, Ecuador & Panama for work. The Panama canal was so huge that a huge work force was needed and this did not just include Africans from Dominican Republic & Haiti but it also included countries like Jamaica.
@chsn09 Estimates by who? Mexico puts Afro-mexicans as 0.5 of the mexican population not nowhere near 3-6% lol that estimate is very laughable. Find me an afro-mexican town in Mexico where the population is around 100,000 inhabitants, you want find not even one, all afro-mexican towns have around 300 inhabitants to 6,000 inhabitants.
@chsn09 Your stats do not even support what you say. I even added 300,000 to the Afro Mexican population & the real number of the Mexican population is 113,423,050 & added 76,950 to round it up to 113,500,050 not even covering the 300,000 I added to the 4.7 million high estimate you had to make the population 5 million. At least the information I provide is factual and Wikipedia is not the only source I can provide. I even used your information to prove what you were saying was false.
@ElJamon4Me "Although Veracruz is thought to have the largest black population in Mexico due its history as an important slave port, this is no longer the case. The majority of Mexico’s contemporary African descendant population lives in the Costa Chica region, which includes the Caribbean coastal regions of the southern states of Oaxaca and Guerrero" - Minority Rights International
The 1960 census also used the title "Spanish-surnamed American" in their reporting data of Mexican Americans, which included Cuban Americans, Puerto Ricans and others under the same category.
From 1970 to 1980, there was a dramatic population increase of Other Race in the census, reflecting the addition of a question on Hispanic origin to the 100-percent questionnaire, an increased propensity for Hispanics to NOT identify themselves as White, and a change in editing procedures to accept
Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration's policies of promoting national, "patriotic" unity by reorganizing racial categories to make all ethnic groups "white" and or "Americans" if not white. Instructions for enumerators were "Mexicans – Report 'White' (W) for Mexicans unless they are definitely of indigenous or other non-white race." During the same census, however, the bureau began to track the White population of Spanish mother tongue. This practice continued through the 1960 census.[25]
IT REALLY ANNOYS ME WHEN BLACK HISPANICS DENY THEIR AFRICAN DESCENT . IF YOU ARE BLACK SKINNED ITS FOR A REASON! AFRICAN SLAVES WERE DROPPED IN CENTRAL AMERICA AS WELL AS IN THE USA.
Latinos are from laten so the people from laten italy are Latinos in the world>.Education is power. We must stop,allowing euros to label us And for those who get upset Oh well!! Gracias
There is one way to stop this madness and this racial label? To begin to use the correct term Afrikan i amj an Afrikan Cuban my mother was Afro Boriqua sh/he /we must take back our power to be who we are..The racists euros etc always define our people by labels The African americans know this wel..l The term Latino was coined by Pres Nixon to separate our people Check out my page blog (the non latino Spanish speaker from Cuba it explains the name..
REAL LATINS ARE WHITE PEOPLE FROM SOUTHER SPAIN, LATINS DID NOT EXIST IN THE 1960'S NOR BEFORE THAT. ALSO HISPANIC DID NOT EXIST PRE 60'S. DONT LET COLONIALISM MANIPULATE YOUR IDENTITY BECAUSE LATINS SOUND AND IS MUCH MORE EUROPEAN. LATINO IDENTITY WAS FORCED ON US BY THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION AND THE MEDIA. MIXED RACE IS NOT LATINO, WE ARE NICAN TLACA , INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THIS LAND! LATINOS ARE FAKE WHITE PEOPLE!
@makayla415 The term was actually imposed by the French not the Reagan Administration. since it was the French who imposed the name Latin America (French Amérique latine) on the Spanish, French, and Portuguese-speaking countries of the Western Hemisphere, during their support of the Second Mexican Empire
@makayla415 The rapid widespread of "Latino" in the US has been possible due to the policies of certain newspapers such as the Los Angeles Times and other California-based media during the 1990s. The use of the term as a label has been the target of journalists like Raoul Lowery who have heavily attacked it, denouncing it as a misleading and simplistic way of tagging a group as diverse as Latin Americans:
That explains why growing up in California I almost never heard the words latino or hispanic until about the mid to late nineties. Even growing up in an area with lots of Mexicans and Central Americans. I also never heard them while living in the Bronx. It's very obvious to me that the way in which these words are used now are just to sell products to a mass group of people instead of just one demographic, such as mexicans or puerto ricans.
@makayla415 The third reason Del Olmo objected to the word "Hispanic" and championed the word "Latino" was that "Chicano" had been roundly rejected by all Mexican Americans but the most radical, blue collar, less educated, under-class people of Mexican-origin. Del Olmo pushed "Latino" as a substitute for the rejected "Chicano." Unfortunately, he was in a position to push this substitution into the language of the "Newspaper of Record" in the West.
@makayla415 Other papers and broadcast stations took up the word because it was the "style" of the LA Times. Frank Del Olmo single-handedly branded millions of people. The Latino/Hispanic naming dispute is a phenomenon that has its roots mainly in California and other neighboring states.[24] Before the adoption of the ethnonym "Hispanic or Latino" by the United States Government the term Hispanic was commonly used for statistics ends.
@makayla415 However, many people didn't feel satisfied with the term and started campaigns promoting the use of Latino as a new ethnonym. The Office of Management and Budget has stated that the new term should be, indeed, "Hispanic or Latino" because the usage of the terms differs – "Hispanics is commonly used in the eastern portion of the United States, whereas Latino is commonly used in the western portion"
Actually, not even everyone from Spain, Italy, France, Romania, and Portugal are of "Latin" descent. The afformentioned descended from many different people.
@LaMariposaSedosa That may be true but the majority is of European descent and each place whether it be England or France or Spain or Itay or Portugal have a distinct look that has been molded for many generations. Of course even in Spain their are factions like Catalan and Basque but they are still all European. They may not get along most of the time. Same with Great Britain you got the Welch, the Scottish and Irish & they don't always get along but they are European.
this was THE BEST DOCUMENTARY I HAVE EVER SEEN.I AM PART SOCALLED BLACK AMERICAN AND MY MOTHER IS PUERTO RICAN-SO I GREW UP BEING PERSECUTED BY BLACKS HERE IN AMERICA BECAUSE OF MY MOTHERS LIGHT SKIN, BUT WHEN I VISIT MY FAMILY IN THE EARLY 80s in salinas PUERTO RICO-I FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE DARK& THE MINORITY WERE LIGHT COMPLEXION-BUT I FIND IN AMERICA THE WHITE AND SPANISH PEOPLE-PUERTO RICANS,DOMINICANS-LOOK ON ME AS A NIGGA-AND I LOVE BOTH MY BLACK WORLD AND MY LATIN WORLD.
Lo interesante es que un Cuba,esta fenomena no esta tan presente como esta en otros paises latinos.por ejemplo,cuando voy a fiestas cubanas,lo africano juega un gran papel,especialmente en nuestra musica.Los cubanos venimos en muhos colores-de Pitbull hasta Christina Millian
Great Video , Documentaries and more to open up the public eye, the truth the, trilogy - African - Taino - European (white) STOP THE IGNORANCE
Thank You Crystal Roman for putting this togeather. Chrstopher Pares 21 min and 54 seconds into this video stating the truth It is sad how some people (the weak people) has allowed the negative to brain wash them. All you have to do is look in the miror and see your self first as a person and then you will see the true ethnic Beauty. La mezcla
Great Video , Documentaries and more to open up the public eye, the truth the, trilogy - African - Taino - European (white) STOP THE IGNORANCE
Thank You Crystal Roman for putting this togeather. Chrstopher Pares 21 min and 54 seconds into this video stating the truth It is sad how some people (the weak people) has allowed the negative to brain wash them. All you have to do is look in the miror and see your self first as a person and then you will see the true ethnic Beauty. La mezcla
I mean through out Latin America their were many conflicts. If you were a slave you were expected to protect your master and in the start it was conflicts versus the indigenous factions who did not want Spanish rule. Then throughout Latin America their were fights for independence which were long drawn out battles as well. If u look at Argentina & its African population it is basically non existent even though a number of African slaves were imported to the island but war took its impact.
Argentina isn't an island. And Buenos Aires was predominately black until a plague wiped many blacks out also the immigration of many europeans made blacks a minority.
@LaMariposaSedosa Actually many feel that a plague was partly to blame but others feel like ethnic cleansing also took place in Argentina. Slavery was abolished in 1853 that is less than 150 years ago. Many Latin American countries had many conflicts. One way to get freedom for many slaves was to fight in wars. Many slaves viewed it as it is better to fight and risk dying to gain freedom. The death toll on all sides was pretty bad. To this day their are conflicts in Central America.
Due to the large Indigenous population the Spanish quickly realized they did not need the African labor because they had enough Native labor to build up Nueva Espana so they stop the importation of African slaves quickly Again the truth is that much of the African populations died due 2 being overworked & bad medical care & due to many conflicts not only with the Spanish but also with indigenous natives who did not want to be under Spanish rule. Basically one way to get your freedom was to fight
Are you talking about a specific country? Because this has never been the case. In fact it is well known that the Africans had stronger immune systems, perhaps from prior contact with Europeans. It was the natives who were dying from disease or being killed at alarming rates. Their were decimated by european disease and genocide. Native slavery was very unsuccessful. Because of this millions of Africans were imported.
If you were talking about Mexico, the spanish speaking country south of the border with the most slaves imported...well slaves stopped being imported because slavery ended. Possibly due to some of the early leaders who were of African descent. And the mal-treatment of Natives increased once slavery ended and the whites realized they didn't need them anymore. They wanted to turn the new world into europe & began to recruit europeans and had to "wipe" the land clear.
@LaMariposaSedosa It did not have the most slaves imported that is false. First was the Brazil because the Portuguese had a monopoly on the slave trade. 2nd was the middle passage the Island of Hispaniola now modern day Dominican Republic & Haiti. These countries had millions imported. Mexico had between 200,000 to 300,000 African slaves imported. The Spanish came to Mexico in 1519 & slavery was not abolished around 1810. Only around 202 years ago.
Actually, I said Mexico had the most slaves imported to a SPANISH country in Latin America. Next, was Colombia. Many Mexicans, moreso, Mexican Americans think it would be the Dominican Republic, if they even know anything of blacks in Latin America or Latin America in general.
@LaMariposaSedosa I am not sure you understand that Hispaniola was the middle passage and more 45% of all slaves stopped in either Hispaniola now Dominican Republic or Haiti. That is more than 200,000 or 300,000 easily because you are talking Millions of people. Look at most of the west indies including Dominican Republic, Haiti, add in Cuba as well as Puerto Rico as well as Jamaica which use to belong to the Spanish b4 they lost it to England & add Dutch Antilles.
@LaMariposaSedosa what happen no so basic, elemantary and random anymore. LOL Straight to the point as always. I keep on hearing talk but no stats or facts to back up that talk All the information I have provided isn't stuff I just make up. It is all factual So if you want to call the stuff I provide as basic and elementary and random it is better than just made up spin & lies that only confuse human being Slavery in the majority of Latin American countries was abolished less than 200 years ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Afro Mexicans are about 1% of Mexico population & Afro Dominicans are 85% of the Dominican Republic. I do not know where you get your information but you may want to look up more information on this subject because you are way off on your information. These clips are from a street in Villa Mella, a neighborhood of Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic) known for the musicians it has produced Just copy & paste in utube search bar. Afro Dominican Palo Drumming in Villa Mella
Actually, I said Mexico had the most slaves imported to a SPANISH country in Latin America. I think the point was lost on you. The point being that they don't know their own African history or even that the majority of the non-blacks are of African descent. Many people think that countries that currently have more blacks had more slaves, which isn't always true. The reason some countries don't currently have more natives or blacks is due to MISCEGENATION.
Your are wasting your time. I know Latin American history. I don't even know what you are arguing about. Just another person that has to negate everything. Copy & paste?! What is your problem?
@LaMariposaSedosa Facts are facts you can't change them. People try to and try to blur and cover up the past to manipulate human beings into thinking things that are not true to keep them as mental slaves. However lies only grow bigger and bigger tell them blow up in one's face. It is true what the say the truth hurts but it also sets one free. Honesty is always the best policy and it is better to tell the whole story & not just a distorted version of the truth to suit a person point of view.
Again, what are you talking about? Just because you don't know something, doesnt make it not true. Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't make "it" not true.
@LaMariposaSedosa Again many of things you have said on here I have come back with facts to discredit you. I come with facts and sources that are independent of what I think. This is information collected by many scholars and agencies. I have no interest in lying or distorting the truth. Like they say the truth hurts but honesty is the best policy. Many people want to tell you what they think or what they think they know much of which is baseless & untrue. People attempt to block the truth.
As you see above U.S has 12.2 percent of the total population and you got Mexico actually it puts it at less than. I was being generous when I said it was 1% of the population. This includes Caribbean Afro Latinos going to Mexico for work like Dominicans as well as Afro Latins coming from countries like Brazil Giovani Dos Santos father Afro Brazilian.
@chsn09 More stats this is outside of Mexico. Mexican in U.S.A - Per the 2000 U.S. Census, a plurality of 47.3% of Mexican Americans self identify as being of White race, closely followed by Mexican Americans who self identify as "Some other race", usually Mestizo (Native American/European) with 45.5%.<.[19] Respondents who claim two or more races accounted for 5.1%, Blacks for 0.7%, and all other races for 1.4%. Mexican Americans are predominantly of Native American and European descent.
@chsn09 A study presented by the American Society of Human Genetics found that on average, Mexicans (from Mexico) are 58.99% Caucasian, 39.01% "Asian" (Native American), and 80% of Mexicans were classes as mestizos (racially mixed in any degree).[20] The study also found the Mexican mestizo population has a higher heterogeneity compared to other populations.[21] This is similar to the admixture of Mexican Americans (in general). According to the last Mexican census to record race
@chsn09 10 percent of the Mexican populace identified itself as white, 59 percent as Mestizo (Native American-European mixture), 29 percent as Native American, and 2 percent as "other", foreigner (regardless of race), or did not specify a race.[22] Before the United States' borders expanded westward in the 19th century, New World regions colonized by the Spanish Empire since the 16th century held to a complex caste system
@chsn09 From 1850 through 1920 the Census Bureau expanded its racial categories to include all different races including Mestizos, Mulattos, Amerindians and Asians, and classified Mexicans and Mexican Americans as "White"[25] All Mexicans were legally (though not always socially) considered "White" either because they were considered to be of full Spanish heritage, or because of treaty obligations to Spaniards and Mexicans that conferred citizenship status at a time when whiteness was a
The 1930 U.S. census revoked generic "white" status for Mexican Americans due to protests from Anglo Americans nativists. The new form asked for "color or race" and census workers were instructed to "write ‘W’ for White; ’Mex’ for Mexican."[26]
In the 1940 census, Mexican Americans were re-classified as White, due to widespread protests by the Mexican American community and the World War II-era Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration's
@chsn09 the large majority of Mexicans can be considered as "Mestizos", meaning that they neither identify fully with any indigenous culture or with a particular non-Mexican heritage, but rather identify as having cultural traits and heritage that is mixed by elements from indigenous and European traditions. By the deliberate efforts of post-revolutionary governments the "Mestizo identity" was constructed as the base of the modern Mexican national identity,
@LaMariposaSedosa Mexico has always been for the most part in conflict. First it was the Spanish & the Natives. Then the Mexicans & the French. Now the drug war. More people died in Mexico then Afghanistan & Iraq combined. MEXICO CITY — A total of 34,612 people have died in drug-related killings in Mexico in the four years. Compare that to 11 years of war in Afghanistan & Iraq which is around 6,370. Mexico also has the Murder Capital of the World in Ciudad Juarez.
@LaMariposaSedosa Juarez has become the murder capital of the world, with 2,600 dead last year. The death toll could be higher this year. It's on track to hit 3,000. Ciudad Juarez is next to El Paso Texas right off the Mexican border. However just recently the Center or Internal part of Mexico has begun to be hit with the drug war in affluent parts that have not been seen b4. This does not include kidnappings which Mexico is also probably one of the top 2 in the world. Only Columbia is Higher
@LaMariposaSedosa Below are kidnapping statistics for various countries. Please bear in mind that only a tiny fraction [10% ?] of all kidnapping cases are reported to authorities for fear that it will trigger further kidnappings. Have a safe trip!! Rank Country 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 TOTAL 1 Colombia 464 244 217 469 947 908 960 972 5,181 2 Mexico 46 87 31 48 109 275 436 402 1,269 3 Former Soviet Union*
@LaMariposaSedosa The united states is 236 years old and began in 1776. Like I said in many Latin American countries slavery has been abolished less then 200 years or 2 centuries. Racism can be much worse for Afro-Latinos in Latin American countries compared to Latin Caribbean islands like Dominican Republic where the majority are or 85% are of African descent. The Whites are the minority in the Dominican Republic less than 15% of the population compared to Argentina which is 90% + Population
@ElJamon4Me There's no winning with this guy -_-; maybe 90% is afro-descendent, but I want to make it clear that outsiders that we're not only that. We're also white and native and that's it. Nothing more, nothing less, and if I don't want misinformation to make someone cut their quest for identity short because they don't know any better. That's a good point you made on the Latin stuff. People these days have no idea what Latina even means and it's very alarming
Here is where the confusion comes in Before Mexico was Mexico it was New Spain or Nueva Espana The people their were Nuevo Hispanos or New Hispanics but then France came & 2 show solidarity they said we all Latinos Technically they were correct because the people who had ancestry from Southern Europe were in power mostly had Latino Lineage but some did have Indigenous ancestry as well and many Telenovelas like Amor Real reflect and talk about the Indigenous aspect of Mexico.
@gunzt3rkenfu92 First off what I said is that the 2 terms Hispano and Latino began in Mexico. Actually the term Latinos was first used - The term "Latin America" was used for the first time in the nineteenth century when the French occupied Mexico (1862–1867), leading to the Second Mexican Empire, and wanted to be included in what was considered Spanish America. source wikipedia One because Mexico was New Spain Nueva Espana so u had Nuevo Hispanos & Latinos because of the French.
@gunzt3rkenfu92 2nd I know all of Latin America & much of Latin America does not use Latino in their home countries because it is not necessary. Latino and Hispanic really came into use when Mexico lost its U.S territories California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, & Colorado the United States wanted people to identify other than Mexican since Mexico is next door and they did not want mixed loyalties so they many Mexicans used either Hispanic or Latino. Other words used are Chicano & Tejano
@gunzt3rkenfu92 Small Part of Latin America. LOL It was the center or hub of the Spanish Empire. Caribbean islands are small.
The United Mexican States[14] (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos (help·info)), commonly known as Mexico. Mexico is the fifth largest country in the Americas by total area and the thirteenth largest independent nation in the world. With an estimated population of over 112 million,[9] it is the eleventh most populous country and the most populous Spanish-speaking country.
@gunzt3rkenfu92 Also I never stated that all Latin Americans are Mexican what I stated is how the words came to use by way of Mexico and the Mexican Empire. Mexican Americans are Americans of Mexican descent. As of July 2009, Mexican Americans make up 10.3% of the United States' population with over 31,689,000 Americans listed as of Mexican ancestry. Mexican Americans comprise 66% of all Hispanics & Latinos in the United States.
@gunzt3rkenfu92 Even the 2nd largest doesn't even come close to the Mexican population. Puerto Ricans form the second largest Hispanic group in the United States. There are over four million Puerto Ricans living stateside, with reports that this number exceeded the population in Puerto Rico for the first time in 2003. Do you know who built the Alamo? San Antonio de Valero Mission(originally referred to as San Antonio de Padua) was authorized by the Viceroy of Mexico in 1716.
As I said, Mexico is only a small part of Latin America put together. Latin America has almost 600 million people. You can't simply ignore 500,000,000 people because you really really like a small chunk of them, that's just silly.
Not to mention the largest ports belonging to Spain were nowhere near Mexico, they were in South America.
Although I agree with the terms coming from Mexico after contact with France. I misunderstood the comment at first.
If you would really like to know the Pinta and Nina and Santa Maria sailed in 1492 and sailed for the Spanish empire by an Italian who must of understood Spanish. Wow I wonder how that occurred because they are so foreign to each other. Me being sarcastic. Well both languages as we all know are based off Latin and have many similarities. If a Spanish wants to learn Italian or a Italian wants to learn Spanish it is not that difficult. Same with Portuguese and French. Yo So in Spanish & Je Suis
This is why the Gulf of Mexico is named the Gulf of Mexico and not the Gulf of the United States. I am not sure if you all are aware of this but you should actually see this add that many White Americans got offended by that should the true map before Mexico lost territories to the United States of America. Here is the link just copy and google it............ Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!..................... The truth is much history has been hidden or covered up.
Really Mexico itself was the center of the a new empire that reached into modern day North America. I mean the Anglo Saxon's whites did not build the Alamo nor did they build or many of the missions in the southwest which many cities were founded from Mexico itself stretched all the way up to Oregon to Texas all the way down to Central America. Actually Mexico is part of North America. Have you ever heard the word Tejano or Tex Mex? This means a Mexican born in Texas. It is like saying Chilango
Everything has a origin and if you want to find out what Latin means and where it began and where the language started from you must start at the beginning. Not in the middle of the story not in the Americas. However like an earlier commentator said. Latino has been revived in the new world by the French in Mexico & because of Mexico's media empire and telenovelas popularity worldwide they have revived not only Latino image but also the hispano one as well. Europeans mostly abandoned the Labels
Lets just be completely honest. Latins or Latino People are descendants from Southern Europe that include Spain, Portugal, France, Romania and its Origin Italy. Latinos are not Anglo Saxon or Nords or Scandinavians. They are a separate group with a common linage and language and culture as well as Religious beliefs. The majority are Roman Catholics. It is also important to remember that the Romans were a tribe that belonged to Old Latium region as well. These are the facts before 1492.
I enjoy this documentary, As a mother to you a child who is black and puerto rican it is very important for him to understand his culture. I have found from my own observation that many latino's especially puerto ricans seem to only want to embrace their africanness when it comes to music and santeria.
@ElJamon4Me I'm mixed with the 3. My point is that the country is a mix of the 3 cultures and if you know where to look you'd realize the largest component of it is heavily surrounded by Taino contribution. I once told a group of Jamaicans, I was black and they laughed and called me Spanish. I refuse to identify as Spanish and correct people often because it's a bad representation of us. We're mixed, but native contributions are as a matter of fact downplayed I'm not an afro
@kikito172 Well it does come down to likeness as well. I mean Barack Obama's mother is half white but he looks African and identifies as an African American despite his mother being white. Now this doesn't mean he does not recognize his whiteness he does. However it not just about how a person identifies himself but how other identify you. I mean everyone has eyes and if your likeness is African looking then regardless of what you consider yourself other people will view you as what they see.
@kikito172 Oh so you are a Trigueno since you are all 3. You maybe but many people on the island are not. The Dominican Republic just can't justify it with Modern Science when studies have shown trough DNA testing that much of the Population is African descent. Even the Anthropologist Juan Rodriguez Acosta stated in the documentary that 90% of the population is African descent. 22:38
@SenoraDeMadrugada1@ElJamon4Me yyup yup there are no 'purebloods' left yeah. My battle is more of a cultural one than a racial one although obviously someone should have some Taino blood to practice the culture. Identity issues are a social problem at times, but as long as no one is getting lynched for being that race or this, and there is mutual respect, all of us can be happy :P. I still encourage anyone to read up history of their country and their own family background one size =/= fit all
@SenoraDeMadrugada1 lol I'm not trying to say EVERYONE is trying to downplay us but what I am saying is that sometimes in this Doc they do, and I just think film makers should be more careful about that. I'm all about consciousness of identity whether is be African etc. do what makes you feel best is my motto. The hatred I was talking about is more in general. People try to make is seem like anyone who claim Taino are crazy, illegitimate etc. i'm going to have to make a film soon smh ._______.
@kikito172 Ok you were crying foul big time in that regard but I really didn't see it. I got the point that in general terms Dominicans claim Indio first and foremost, and I'm Dominican, the people who are THE FIRST to say yo soy india is the last person who would have ANY indigenous blood, this is just from my experience. Of course there will be admixture & Taino bloodlines passed on but DR has no more living FULLblood Indios like other LatAm countries. We can agree to disagree :-D
@kikito172 And the DNA thing you brought up about Puerto Rico, I know what study you're talking about and they found 27% african DNA and 61% indigenous and 12% european. I'm guessing this is ppl who have MAJORITY of each but it doesnt say if it accounts for mixing in the ppl tested. Census they found even ppl who were majority african blood still checked white as the case in Brazil where at one point only 8% "identified" with Afro now the census is over 50% afro-descendant. Major turn
@SenoraDeMadrugada1 That is exactly right about Brazil. I think it is changing slowly all over Latin America as far a realizing the denial or misinformation or shame or cover up of trying to whiting Latin America. A prime example is the Dominican Republic where Trujillo implemented the Blanquismo in the D.R. However times are changing and people are more aware of how they are viewed and self recognition.
@kikito172 The thing I don't understand if you are mixed race either Spanish and Taino then why R U worried about it. Even Spanish or African their is a point where if U R light enough I do understand where your likeness is no longer that of an African black man and can't identify. My point is though is that in the Dominican Republic the minority is mixed race and white. Their is a point though where your population can be seen as African if 1/3 of the Population or greater is of African descent
@kikito172 This is my whole point Puerto Rico 1/3 or 33% is African Descent it can be considered a Afro Latino country as well as Cuba almost 50% or 1/2 of the population is Afro descendants and they can be considered and Afro Latino country. When you talk to D.R at minimum it is 75% or 3/4 to 90% or 9/10 of the population African Descent country. Unlike Argentina where less than 1% of the population is of African Descent they cannot be considered and Afro Latino 'country as well. as Mexico 1%
@ElJamon4Me Mexico can't be considered an Afro Latino country because the population of Africans is 1% unlike many Caribbean countries. These countries Afro population is under 33% of the population & can't really be considered Afro Countries. Uruguay 4% Argentina Under 1% Paraguay, Chile, Peru 3% Costa Rica 3% Just to name a few Now one can Argue someare more a Mestizo Spanish/Indigenous population yes depending on what country U are talking about. Again Argentina is under 2% so not applicable
@ElJamon4Me This is why I caution U must look at each individual Country in Latin America to determine each countries African population to determine their makeup. It can't be a 1 size fits all approach I mean if a African American marries a Chinese woman in China & they live in China does that make China an African country? No. Now if a 1/3 or 33% Chinese men & woman married African descent people & they live in China U can make more of the case that yes a third of their make up is Afro descent
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Oh thank U 4 being so generous & letting me present factual information I do not know how I am speaking out of my azz when much of da information I have presented can B looked up & verified I just felt that some of the information in da documentary was inaccurate & felt it was important 2 correct it I admired Anthropologist Juan Rodriguez Acosta in da documentary because his information was factual & honest as well as Giovanni Cordoba Alright documentary it starts da Conversation on AfroLatinos
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@chsn09 Es la verdad no te gusta? You don't like the truth. It is not spam it is the truth and if you see people flagging it for spam please hit the not spam button. People like to hide the truth. All my information is factual and not opinionated like most of the trash that is written. It comes from independent sources who are experts on the field as well as historical documents. I have a life it is combating lies and misinformation. I am here to expose the truth not hide it or distort it.
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@chsn09 Also why should I leave. if you have the right to your opinion and misinformation then why do I not have the right post factual information that is truthful. I never tell people to get lost or get the fuck off the board. I just come back with the correct facts from other independent sources that have meticulous documentation on history and events. If you here someone not speaking the truth then you need to speak up and correct them instead of being quiet or else it ends up affecting you
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@ElJamon4Me DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT! ALL I'M DOING IS LETTING YOUR ASS KNOW THAT YOU ARE ARE TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS AND BREATHING HOT AIR!!!! ANYWAY YOU HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OVER! PLEASE CONTINUE!!! GOODBYE
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Now unlike Argentinean who have declared themselves the whitest country in Latin America which is used as a source of pride. Mexicans do not care about being Anglos or Gringos. Recently 2 Arizona white racist talked bad about Mexican people with lies about of the Mexican people & who they are. I will add some video links so you can see most of them say racist white bitc#es or Racist Gringas. You will also see they are not trying to portray themselves as white even if they are light skin Latinos.
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Now lets look at one of Mexico's hottest Telenovela stars David Zepeda Quintero (born 19 September 1974; Nogales, Sonora), represented Mexico La Fuerza del Destino - So begins his journey to the United States, crossing the border illegally, still recovering from the beating and fighting the natural elements of the dessert between Mexico and the United States.
He is portraying a Undocumented Mexican so how is he trying to be Anglo White?
La Fuerza Del Destino Capitulo 8 [David Zepeda] Parte 8/8
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copy and paste in youtube search bar.....HBO Ring Life - Juan Manuel Márquez (Español)..... Un guerrero Azteca es. Bascially he said he was an Aztec Warrior.
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ElJamon4Me 1 day ago
All this info can be verified on Wikipedia as well as IMBD. Now lets look at Mexicans on youtube & see how they look. First lets look at some popular people of Mexican descent & then not so popular(regular people) Ok first famous person Cain Velasquez what does it say on his chest? Brown Pride. Just copy & paste in youtube search bar.
Cain Velasquez Brown Pride Episodio 1 Parte 1
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Other Cast Members. Michelle Ramaglia Zavala (born May 18, 1978 in Mexico City, Distrito Federal) is a Mexican actress. Alejandro Ávila is a Mexican actor. Marco Méndez (born Marco Anibal Méndez Ramírez on October 1, 1976 in Uruapan, Michoacán) is a Mexican actor.Ignacio López Tarso (born Ignacio López López on January 15, 1925) is a Mexican actor Okay here is 2 of foreign born actors. Julián Elías Gil Beltrán (born June 13, 1970) is a Puerto Rican actor Jorge Aravena is Peruvian-Venezuelan
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Other cast members Susana Alejandra González[1] (born October 2, 1973 in Calera de Víctor Rosales, Zacatecas) is a Mexican actress. Ana Martín (born May 14, 1947 in Mexico City) is a Mexican actress best known for her work in telenovelas, Ingrid Martz de la Vega (born September 17, 1979 in Mexico City, Distrito Federal) is a Mexican actress. Fabián Robles (born in León de los Aldama, Guanajuato, Mexico, on April 16, 1974) is a Mexican actor
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The show stars Ana Brenda Contreras, Jorge Salinas, and Jose Ron as the main protagonists. Mar Contreras, and Susana González star as the main antagonists.
Ana Brenda Contreras (born December 24, 1986 in Rio Bravo, Tamaulipas, Mexico) is a Mexican actress and singer. orge Salinas Pérez (born July 27, 1968) is a Mexican television and film actor. Édgar José Ron Vázquez (born August 8, 1981 in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico) is a Mexican actor. Top 3 stars all Mexican.
ElJamon4Me 1 day ago
Here is a popular Novela in the U.S and Mexico shoot in Mexico and the lead actors are Mexican. La Que No Podía Amar (The One That Could Not Love) is a Mexican telenovela produced by José Alberto Castro for Televisa. Now just copy and paste words below in youtube search bar to see the 2 lead actors.
La que no podia amar - Que voy hacer con mi amor
ElJamon4Me 1 day ago
If you look at my prior writings on this subject you will find out the racial break down of the Mexican people, and even Mexican Americans so I do not want to rewrite it in the comment box you can look at it for yourself. I would also like to say that Mexican people must reflect how their people look because it makes sense and that makes money. Again also Univision was started by Mexicans & later sold off to an Egyptian but Mexicans still owns Televisa & tv Azteca. Lets look deeper in to this.
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Okay at 21:52 Christopher Pares talks about Mexicans & says they are portraying to be white. "I do find it strange that White People are a minority in Mexico but they are a majority on Tv. I don't know who they are trying to fool". This is opinion based documentary and we know that like opinions are like aholes everyone has one. I wish they would of asked him how views himself as an Argentinean as well as how should Mexicans portray themselves on tv. I want to discredit his false accusation
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Latin American blacks are more culturally African than black Americans.
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@MrSivram28 You're 100% correct. The Africans that came and that brought here for some odd reason kept some African traditions. I read some where that the Catholics at the time did not care much to convert them just used them for labor. Sadly, the slave owners that owned African Americans the Brits who are the driest, bland culture in the world felt the need to destroy our customs which was not necessary. Fucking scum. The Romans said they were so stupid they could not even bee good slaves.
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A Spanish term meaning "native born and raised," criollo historically was applied to both white and black non-indigenous persons born in the Americas. In the contemporary historical literature, the term usually means only people who in theory were of full direct Spanish ancestry, born in the Americas. In reality white Criollos could also have some native ancestry, but this would be disregarded for families who had maintained a certain status
She is what you would call a White Criollo.
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This Racist Cuban girl goes off on Blacks & Mexicans & Spics. Just copy and paste in youtube search bar. Cubans should not be lumped in with Mexicans in Hispanic/Latino category. Caribbean White People of Spanish descent. Actually she is half white so Under the Casta system she is Criollo and not considered Anglo white. LOL
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ElJamon4Me 1 week ago
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Type this in youtube search bar. Celia Cruz ....... La Negra Tiene Tumbao.......
Also notice how the American Flag is upside down in the video in 2;03 of the Celia Cruz video and the Mexican flag & Spanish flag are correct. Right side up. Intentional or a mistake? I will let you think about it. LOL Make sure it is her Official video. It should be on Vevo
ElJamon4Me 1 week ago
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When Celia Cruz sung La Negra Tiene Tumbao it was more than just a song it was a Political Statement. It was My people are just as worthy that they don't have to walk from behind. Mejor camina de frente. In other words be proud of who U R. She did not sing La Hispana tiene Tumbao or La Latina tiene Tumbao this was a direct message that has been ignored. She just played the game 4 Hispanics & Latinos who control the media but her message was to her afflicted Afro Cubano community & Afro Latinos.
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It will happen this Century that the Castro Regime will get toppled & Cubans will no longer have their Wet Foot & Dry foot policy. Puerto Rico is a lot trickier but they want their independence from the United States of America & some want to stay & become more than a territory. the thing is that many people end up immigrating to Puerto Rico so they can become U.S Citizens. You don't think that the U.S is watching this? Eventually they may just give up Puerto Rico willingly to stop the inflow.
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The thing is that Cubans don't know they haven't been here in the United States long enough. The Cuban Revolution started in 1953 and ended in 1959 & from that point Cuban fled in mass to the United States to avoid communism. Once the Castro Regime gets toppled they will be revoked from Wet/foot dry foot policy & will be treated exactly like Mexicans. Puerto Rico is part of the United States but if it gets its independence like it wants it will also be treated like Mexicans. This century watch.
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Mexicans still wanted to show pride in there ancestry even if their own country is not as stable or as prosperous for everyone like many in the Mexican community want it to be. Also many Mexicans have been treated as 2nd class citizens in the United States in communities that predate Anglo settlers. Adding Puerto Ricans and Cubans in to the census with Mexicans may have been intentional to cause confusion which it has done to a great extent to other communities.
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Now one may ask why did the Anglo Americans want to change Mexican identity in the United States in states like Tejas(Texas), New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, & California. Well since Mexico is the next door neighbor of the United States the Anglo Americans were worried with Reconquista of Mexican/Native Lands. However this was unlikely due to corruption of the Mexican government & poor wages in Mexico. This will never happen due to those factors but people still want to show pride.
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When Cubans & Puertoricans started to populate the United States of America they began to lump them into the Hispanic/Latino category with Mexicans in 1960 about 52 years ago when there numbers began to increase in the United States. Again Hispanic & Latino has origins further back then the New world but was revived in the new world via Mexico. However trying to break Mexicans of their identity has not really worked because many still use Mexican American as opposed to Hispanic/Latino.
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There were about 80,000 Mexicans living in the areas of California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas during the period of 1845 - 50. This is directly from Wikipedia- Treaty of Guadalupe. If you're trying to make a point please gather some facts to back up your cause. You obviously have a computer so Google it or Wikipedia. Good luck and hope I was able to help.
I got this from another person who had posted this as a comment and used it here. Sorry forgot the user id however he got it from wiki
ElJamon4Me 1 week ago
My point is simple when the United States took over Mexican Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, & California with around 80,000 inhabitants of Mexican Ancestry but the Anglo whites did not want them to identify with Mexico any more so they needed to call them something else. Hispanic or Hispano was one choice and the other would be Latino. The Anglos did not want the Mexicans to classify as Mexicans because now they were part of the United States & were U.S citizens.
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When the Narrator reads Hispanic Origin why does she start off with Cuba 3:05 when Cuba was added later to the census in 1960. It actually started off with Mexican because Mexican were using Hispanic & even Latino well b4 1960.
The 1960 census also used the title "Spanish-surnamed American" in their reporting data of Mexican Americans,
Added to Census or lumped together with
which included Cuban Americans, Puerto Ricans and others under the same category
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The term Hispanic is derived from Hispanicus, which derived from Hispania) Hispania may in turn derive from Latin Hispanicus, or from Greek Ισπανία Hispania and Ισπανός Hispanos, probably from Celtiberian[5] or from Basque Ezpanna. The words Spain, Spanish, and Spaniard are of the same etymology as Hispanus, ultimately.Hispanus was the Latin name given to a person from Hispania (Portugal and Spain)during Roman rule.
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lol PLEASE TRAVEL you will learn we of that is of the "new world" african based people is everywhere in the AMERICAS most so call latinos are BLACK (look at thier grand parents)
17SAIMPOINT 2 weeks ago
@17SAIMPOINT Sorry but this is a false statement because I know tons of Latinos that do not have a black Grandparent. It all depends on where you travel though. If you travel to the Caribbean it may be true but if you travel to Argentina or Mexico or other parts in Latin America this may not be the case. They may have an Native American grandparent in the main land continents like Argentina or Mexico. Their is some that have none but all white grand parents as well. Depends on family.
ElJamon4Me 1 week ago
@17SAIMPOINT Now if you take Dominican Republic or Cuba or Puerto Rico the chances are greater because 85% of Dominican is African & this video the Professor said 90% & he lives there 22:30. Now Puerto Rico is anywhere from 40% to 20% Afro Population and Cuba is 40% up to 60% so it is possible. However again it depends on family so it is ignorant to claim that all Latinos have 1 black grand parent when you don't know every Latino family.
ElJamon4Me 1 week ago
This is fabulous, I love it! Nicely done on the technical side, and great content. It's critical that we all understand the place of Africa in human history-it is the biological home of every living human on earth. It is the place where the first human civilizations flourish. And, as the place from which so many were taken against their will, it is a place of healing for those of the diaspora. The heritage of Africa in the Americas is great and deserves to be valued and given its due respect.
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Although Telemundo has begun to change a bit in bringing darker actors in to the fold. However they are not competing with BET they are competing with other Networks of Hispanic/Latino that have a large white Latino audience. You also have Venevision as well as RCN from Colombia as well as Coral. Then u have TLN TeleLatino in Canada owned by Italians. It is a fierce market and no one wants to shake the boat with their base when it doesn't make monetary sense & it could have serious consequences
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
Univision was started by Mexicans and again they have an obligation first to make money and 2nd to appeal to their audience. Also they do have Mestizo not just White people on the programming since Mexico Mestizo population is a majority. Now if u talk about Telemundo which was started by Puertoricans then you might have a complaint due to the fact that at least 30% to 40% of Puerto Rico population is Afro Latino. You can't get any whiter but Puerto Rico does have a large White Latino population
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
Melissa Sandoval at 23:00 why does the Media represent Latinos the way that it does. First off they say it is Spanish tv which is a bit false it is Hispano tv. If you went to Spain like I have been you would see that the majority of people are white with light eyes. 2nd most Hispanic media is owned by White Hispanics for example Televisa who was started & owned by Mexicans. The Mexican population is White Mestizo & 1% is Afro Mexican. They provide programming to Univision.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
The real thing is everyone should not be lumped together. Since many cultures vary as well as ethnic makeup the census should make changes.
They should have North American Mexican Hispanic Latinos
They should have Central American Hispanic Latino
They should have South American Hispanic Latino.
They should have Caribbean West Indies Hispanic Latinos
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the bureau has noted an increasing number of respondents who mark themselves as Hispanic origin but not of the White race.[25]
For certain purposes, respondents who wrote in "Chicano" or "Mexican" (or indeed, almost all Hispanic origin groups) in the "Some other race" category were automatically re-classified into the "White race" group.[27]
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
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During this census, the bureau attempted to identify all Hispanics by use of the following criteria in sampled sets:[25]
Spanish speakers and persons belonging to a household where the head of household was a Spanish speaker
Persons with Spanish heritage by birth location or surname
Persons who self-identified Spanish origin or descent
From 1980 on, the Census Bureau has collected data on Hispanic origin on a 100-percent basis.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
reports of "Other race" for respondents who wrote in Hispanic entries such as Mexican, Cuban, or Puerto Rican. In 1970, such responses in the Other race category were reclassified and tabulated as White.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me You copied and pasted all of your erroneous irrelevant info to me for one little comment I made to you? You're ridiculous.
Again estimates state that the Afro-Mexican population is anywhere between 3% to 6% of Mexico's total population.
Keep in mind that Afro-Mexican is an ethnic group. It's also a cultural group within Mexico so it's members will vary in terms of phenotype and proportions of African ancestry.
PROCESS THAT.
chsn09 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 The reason I copy and paste information is because it is factual and independent of what I think. I am not here to make stuff up. Unlike you who make up percentages for some unknown reason. Again this information included various phenotype people like Mulattoes & Quadroon. It did not just count dark African people Mexico itself had Gente de Razon & Gente sin Razon so they are not new to this as well as being very meticulous with recording history.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me You're so funny. You call copying and pasting wikipedia without even reading or checking it a reliable and valid source? Your full of shit.
chsn09 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me From Minority Rights International, it states "There have been no official figures on the numbers of Mexicans of African descent since 1810, when a census found that black people made up 10 per cent of the total population. Most estimates now place their numbers at between 474,000 and 4.7 million.
chsn09 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 LOL Mexico population is 113,500,000 Million people. Okay so let say that the Afro Population is 5 Million. We will round it up to be generous. Okay subtract 113500000 minus 5 million from total assuming that their are 5 million Afro Mexicans. You get 108,500,000 people you would still only get 2.17% of the population. Again like I said where do u get 3% to 6 % of the population. At first you said 5% of the population. Now you have changed & all of a sudden lowered your stats. U R Funny
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me Like i said, estimates put the Afro-Mexican population as existing between 3% and 6%!
ALso Ecuador's Afrodescent population is actually 12% of Ecuador's population!
chsn09 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 Then add in the 31,700,000 Mexican American population which only 0.7% identified with being black race Afro Mexican and 47.3% identified as being white and 45.5 identified with being Mestizo with 5% identifying as other race which is Arab or Asian which includes Chinese & Filipino. Ecuador again when did we start talking about Ecuador. I thought we were talking about Mexico. It seems like you bloat the number because I have read the Afro Population is around 3% for Ecuador.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me Nonsense! Even Wikipedia states that Afro Ecuadorians make up more than 8% of Ecuador's population.
The Afro Ecuadorian population in Ecuador is more than 2 million, respectively.
Go to wwwDOTafrolatinosDOTtv for more information
chsn09 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 It says that the Afro Ecuadorian census says it is around 5% of the population but a Afro Ecuadorian study says it is around 8%. However, any study can be distorted or not factual depending on who does the study. Either way that is well under 10% of the population According to the info it states is 1.6 Million people but it criticizes the way the country does it census Like I said many of these countries have talked about have less African present than the U.S 12.2% a majority Anglo Pop
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 It says that the Afro Ecuadorian census says it is around 5% of the population but a Afro Ecuadorian study says it is around 8%. However, any study can be distorted or not factual depending on who does the study. Either way that is well under 10% of the population According to the info it states is 1.6 Million people but it criticizes the way the country does it census Like I said many of these countries have talked about have less African present than the U.S 12.2% a majority Anglo Pop
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@chsn09 It says that the Afro Ecuadorian census says it is around 5% of the population but a Afro Ecuadorian study says it is around 8%. However, any study can be distorted or not factual depending on who does the study Either way that is well under 10% of the population According to the info it states is 1.6 Million people but it criticizes the way the country does it census Like I said many of these countries have talked about have less African present than the U.S 12.2% a majority Anglo Pop
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 You also must remember that many of these studies are Afrocentric which can tend to exaggerate facts depending on their agenda. One example is the migration of many Caribbean or West Indies people migrating to countries like Mexico, Ecuador & Panama for work. The Panama canal was so huge that a huge work force was needed and this did not just include Africans from Dominican Republic & Haiti but it also included countries like Jamaica.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 Estimates by who? Mexico puts Afro-mexicans as 0.5 of the mexican population not nowhere near 3-6% lol that estimate is very laughable. Find me an afro-mexican town in Mexico where the population is around 100,000 inhabitants, you want find not even one, all afro-mexican towns have around 300 inhabitants to 6,000 inhabitants.
Skribz714 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 Your stats do not even support what you say. I even added 300,000 to the Afro Mexican population & the real number of the Mexican population is 113,423,050 & added 76,950 to round it up to 113,500,050 not even covering the 300,000 I added to the 4.7 million high estimate you had to make the population 5 million. At least the information I provide is factual and Wikipedia is not the only source I can provide. I even used your information to prove what you were saying was false.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me "Although Veracruz is thought to have the largest black population in Mexico due its history as an important slave port, this is no longer the case. The majority of Mexico’s contemporary African descendant population lives in the Costa Chica region, which includes the Caribbean coastal regions of the southern states of Oaxaca and Guerrero" - Minority Rights International
chsn09 3 weeks ago
The 1960 census also used the title "Spanish-surnamed American" in their reporting data of Mexican Americans, which included Cuban Americans, Puerto Ricans and others under the same category.
From 1970 to 1980, there was a dramatic population increase of Other Race in the census, reflecting the addition of a question on Hispanic origin to the 100-percent questionnaire, an increased propensity for Hispanics to NOT identify themselves as White, and a change in editing procedures to accept
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration's policies of promoting national, "patriotic" unity by reorganizing racial categories to make all ethnic groups "white" and or "Americans" if not white. Instructions for enumerators were "Mexicans – Report 'White' (W) for Mexicans unless they are definitely of indigenous or other non-white race." During the same census, however, the bureau began to track the White population of Spanish mother tongue. This practice continued through the 1960 census.[25]
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IT REALLY ANNOYS ME WHEN BLACK HISPANICS DENY THEIR AFRICAN DESCENT . IF YOU ARE BLACK SKINNED ITS FOR A REASON! AFRICAN SLAVES WERE DROPPED IN CENTRAL AMERICA AS WELL AS IN THE USA.
LABRANDIKANE 3 weeks ago
Great documentary!!!!!!!!!!!
innovativemind2008 4 weeks ago
latium is the city
kashaherum 1 month ago
Latinos are from laten so the people from laten italy are Latinos in the world>.Education is power. We must stop,allowing euros to label us And for those who get upset Oh well!! Gracias
kashaherum 1 month ago
There is one way to stop this madness and this racial label? To begin to use the correct term Afrikan i amj an Afrikan Cuban my mother was Afro Boriqua sh/he /we must take back our power to be who we are..The racists euros etc always define our people by labels The African americans know this wel..l The term Latino was coined by Pres Nixon to separate our people Check out my page blog (the non latino Spanish speaker from Cuba it explains the name..
kashaherum 1 month ago
REAL LATINS ARE WHITE PEOPLE FROM SOUTHER SPAIN, LATINS DID NOT EXIST IN THE 1960'S NOR BEFORE THAT. ALSO HISPANIC DID NOT EXIST PRE 60'S. DONT LET COLONIALISM MANIPULATE YOUR IDENTITY BECAUSE LATINS SOUND AND IS MUCH MORE EUROPEAN. LATINO IDENTITY WAS FORCED ON US BY THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION AND THE MEDIA. MIXED RACE IS NOT LATINO, WE ARE NICAN TLACA , INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THIS LAND! LATINOS ARE FAKE WHITE PEOPLE!
makayla415 1 month ago
@makayla415 The term was actually imposed by the French not the Reagan Administration. since it was the French who imposed the name Latin America (French Amérique latine) on the Spanish, French, and Portuguese-speaking countries of the Western Hemisphere, during their support of the Second Mexican Empire
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@makayla415 The rapid widespread of "Latino" in the US has been possible due to the policies of certain newspapers such as the Los Angeles Times and other California-based media during the 1990s. The use of the term as a label has been the target of journalists like Raoul Lowery who have heavily attacked it, denouncing it as a misleading and simplistic way of tagging a group as diverse as Latin Americans:
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
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That explains why growing up in California I almost never heard the words latino or hispanic until about the mid to late nineties. Even growing up in an area with lots of Mexicans and Central Americans. I also never heard them while living in the Bronx. It's very obvious to me that the way in which these words are used now are just to sell products to a mass group of people instead of just one demographic, such as mexicans or puerto ricans.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 month ago
@makayla415 The third reason Del Olmo objected to the word "Hispanic" and championed the word "Latino" was that "Chicano" had been roundly rejected by all Mexican Americans but the most radical, blue collar, less educated, under-class people of Mexican-origin. Del Olmo pushed "Latino" as a substitute for the rejected "Chicano." Unfortunately, he was in a position to push this substitution into the language of the "Newspaper of Record" in the West.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@makayla415 Other papers and broadcast stations took up the word because it was the "style" of the LA Times. Frank Del Olmo single-handedly branded millions of people. The Latino/Hispanic naming dispute is a phenomenon that has its roots mainly in California and other neighboring states.[24] Before the adoption of the ethnonym "Hispanic or Latino" by the United States Government the term Hispanic was commonly used for statistics ends.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@makayla415 However, many people didn't feel satisfied with the term and started campaigns promoting the use of Latino as a new ethnonym. The Office of Management and Budget has stated that the new term should be, indeed, "Hispanic or Latino" because the usage of the terms differs – "Hispanics is commonly used in the eastern portion of the United States, whereas Latino is commonly used in the western portion"
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@makayla415
Hispanic is just a translation of hispano. Hispanic may not have been used often in the U.S., but the word did exist.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 month ago
@makayla415
Actually, not even everyone from Spain, Italy, France, Romania, and Portugal are of "Latin" descent. The afformentioned descended from many different people.
LaMariposaSedosa 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa That may be true but the majority is of European descent and each place whether it be England or France or Spain or Itay or Portugal have a distinct look that has been molded for many generations. Of course even in Spain their are factions like Catalan and Basque but they are still all European. They may not get along most of the time. Same with Great Britain you got the Welch, the Scottish and Irish & they don't always get along but they are European.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
This video needs to be viewed at Compton High School in California its very segregated.
NUSTAL 1 month ago
Dashira this is really great! and really informative especially since i have developed an interest in south America. Thanks for sharing!
kosiazom 1 month ago
this was THE BEST DOCUMENTARY I HAVE EVER SEEN.I AM PART SOCALLED BLACK AMERICAN AND MY MOTHER IS PUERTO RICAN-SO I GREW UP BEING PERSECUTED BY BLACKS HERE IN AMERICA BECAUSE OF MY MOTHERS LIGHT SKIN, BUT WHEN I VISIT MY FAMILY IN THE EARLY 80s in salinas PUERTO RICO-I FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE DARK& THE MINORITY WERE LIGHT COMPLEXION-BUT I FIND IN AMERICA THE WHITE AND SPANISH PEOPLE-PUERTO RICANS,DOMINICANS-LOOK ON ME AS A NIGGA-AND I LOVE BOTH MY BLACK WORLD AND MY LATIN WORLD.
SOTAdiPhariseDestroy 1 month ago
@16:39 GREAT INFO
PhariseeObliterator6 1 month ago
Lo interesante es que un Cuba,esta fenomena no esta tan presente como esta en otros paises latinos.por ejemplo,cuando voy a fiestas cubanas,lo africano juega un gran papel,especialmente en nuestra musica.Los cubanos venimos en muhos colores-de Pitbull hasta Christina Millian
jezibellika 1 month ago
@InADashMedia,
Donde sale la seguunda parte?
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Great Video , Documentaries and more to open up the public eye, the truth the, trilogy - African - Taino - European (white) STOP THE IGNORANCE
Thank You Crystal Roman for putting this togeather. Chrstopher Pares 21 min and 54 seconds into this video stating the truth It is sad how some people (the weak people) has allowed the negative to brain wash them. All you have to do is look in the miror and see your self first as a person and then you will see the true ethnic Beauty. La mezcla
cambumbo77 1 month ago
Great Video , Documentaries and more to open up the public eye, the truth the, trilogy - African - Taino - European (white) STOP THE IGNORANCE
Thank You Crystal Roman for putting this togeather. Chrstopher Pares 21 min and 54 seconds into this video stating the truth It is sad how some people (the weak people) has allowed the negative to brain wash them. All you have to do is look in the miror and see your self first as a person and then you will see the true ethnic Beauty. La mezcla
cambumbo77 1 month ago
I mean through out Latin America their were many conflicts. If you were a slave you were expected to protect your master and in the start it was conflicts versus the indigenous factions who did not want Spanish rule. Then throughout Latin America their were fights for independence which were long drawn out battles as well. If u look at Argentina & its African population it is basically non existent even though a number of African slaves were imported to the island but war took its impact.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
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Argentina isn't an island. And Buenos Aires was predominately black until a plague wiped many blacks out also the immigration of many europeans made blacks a minority.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 month ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Actually many feel that a plague was partly to blame but others feel like ethnic cleansing also took place in Argentina. Slavery was abolished in 1853 that is less than 150 years ago. Many Latin American countries had many conflicts. One way to get freedom for many slaves was to fight in wars. Many slaves viewed it as it is better to fight and risk dying to gain freedom. The death toll on all sides was pretty bad. To this day their are conflicts in Central America.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
Due to the large Indigenous population the Spanish quickly realized they did not need the African labor because they had enough Native labor to build up Nueva Espana so they stop the importation of African slaves quickly Again the truth is that much of the African populations died due 2 being overworked & bad medical care & due to many conflicts not only with the Spanish but also with indigenous natives who did not want to be under Spanish rule. Basically one way to get your freedom was to fight
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
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Are you talking about a specific country? Because this has never been the case. In fact it is well known that the Africans had stronger immune systems, perhaps from prior contact with Europeans. It was the natives who were dying from disease or being killed at alarming rates. Their were decimated by european disease and genocide. Native slavery was very unsuccessful. Because of this millions of Africans were imported.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me
If you were talking about Mexico, the spanish speaking country south of the border with the most slaves imported...well slaves stopped being imported because slavery ended. Possibly due to some of the early leaders who were of African descent. And the mal-treatment of Natives increased once slavery ended and the whites realized they didn't need them anymore. They wanted to turn the new world into europe & began to recruit europeans and had to "wipe" the land clear.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 month ago
@LaMariposaSedosa It did not have the most slaves imported that is false. First was the Brazil because the Portuguese had a monopoly on the slave trade. 2nd was the middle passage the Island of Hispaniola now modern day Dominican Republic & Haiti. These countries had millions imported. Mexico had between 200,000 to 300,000 African slaves imported. The Spanish came to Mexico in 1519 & slavery was not abolished around 1810. Only around 202 years ago.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me
Actually, I said Mexico had the most slaves imported to a SPANISH country in Latin America. Next, was Colombia. Many Mexicans, moreso, Mexican Americans think it would be the Dominican Republic, if they even know anything of blacks in Latin America or Latin America in general.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 month ago
@LaMariposaSedosa I am not sure you understand that Hispaniola was the middle passage and more 45% of all slaves stopped in either Hispaniola now Dominican Republic or Haiti. That is more than 200,000 or 300,000 easily because you are talking Millions of people. Look at most of the west indies including Dominican Republic, Haiti, add in Cuba as well as Puerto Rico as well as Jamaica which use to belong to the Spanish b4 they lost it to England & add Dutch Antilles.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
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I knew all of this prior to you posting it. Your so basic, elementary, and random.
LaMariposaSedosa 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Thank you I will take it as a compliment. LOL
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa what happen no so basic, elemantary and random anymore. LOL Straight to the point as always. I keep on hearing talk but no stats or facts to back up that talk All the information I have provided isn't stuff I just make up. It is all factual So if you want to call the stuff I provide as basic and elementary and random it is better than just made up spin & lies that only confuse human being Slavery in the majority of Latin American countries was abolished less than 200 years ago
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Afro Mexicans are about 1% of Mexico population & Afro Dominicans are 85% of the Dominican Republic. I do not know where you get your information but you may want to look up more information on this subject because you are way off on your information. These clips are from a street in Villa Mella, a neighborhood of Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic) known for the musicians it has produced Just copy & paste in utube search bar. Afro Dominican Palo Drumming in Villa Mella
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me
Actually, I said Mexico had the most slaves imported to a SPANISH country in Latin America. I think the point was lost on you. The point being that they don't know their own African history or even that the majority of the non-blacks are of African descent. Many people think that countries that currently have more blacks had more slaves, which isn't always true. The reason some countries don't currently have more natives or blacks is due to MISCEGENATION.
LaMariposaSedosa 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me
Your are wasting your time. I know Latin American history. I don't even know what you are arguing about. Just another person that has to negate everything. Copy & paste?! What is your problem?
LaMariposaSedosa 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Facts are facts you can't change them. People try to and try to blur and cover up the past to manipulate human beings into thinking things that are not true to keep them as mental slaves. However lies only grow bigger and bigger tell them blow up in one's face. It is true what the say the truth hurts but it also sets one free. Honesty is always the best policy and it is better to tell the whole story & not just a distorted version of the truth to suit a person point of view.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me
Again, what are you talking about? Just because you don't know something, doesnt make it not true. Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't make "it" not true.
LaMariposaSedosa 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Again many of things you have said on here I have come back with facts to discredit you. I come with facts and sources that are independent of what I think. This is information collected by many scholars and agencies. I have no interest in lying or distorting the truth. Like they say the truth hurts but honesty is the best policy. Many people want to tell you what they think or what they think they know much of which is baseless & untrue. People attempt to block the truth.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@ElJamon4Me Estimates place the Afro Mexican population at more than 5 million or 5% of the total population of Mexico! -_-
chsn09 3 weeks ago
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@chsn09 North America
United States[62] 299,398,485 12.2% 36,526,615
Mexico[63] 112,468,855 (July 2010 est.) <1.0% <1,124,688
As you see above U.S has 12.2 percent of the total population and you got Mexico actually it puts it at less than. I was being generous when I said it was 1% of the population. This includes Caribbean Afro Latinos going to Mexico for work like Dominicans as well as Afro Latins coming from countries like Brazil Giovani Dos Santos father Afro Brazilian.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 More stats this is outside of Mexico. Mexican in U.S.A - Per the 2000 U.S. Census, a plurality of 47.3% of Mexican Americans self identify as being of White race, closely followed by Mexican Americans who self identify as "Some other race", usually Mestizo (Native American/European) with 45.5%.<.[19] Respondents who claim two or more races accounted for 5.1%, Blacks for 0.7%, and all other races for 1.4%. Mexican Americans are predominantly of Native American and European descent.
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 A study presented by the American Society of Human Genetics found that on average, Mexicans (from Mexico) are 58.99% Caucasian, 39.01% "Asian" (Native American), and 80% of Mexicans were classes as mestizos (racially mixed in any degree).[20] The study also found the Mexican mestizo population has a higher heterogeneity compared to other populations.[21] This is similar to the admixture of Mexican Americans (in general). According to the last Mexican census to record race
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 10 percent of the Mexican populace identified itself as white, 59 percent as Mestizo (Native American-European mixture), 29 percent as Native American, and 2 percent as "other", foreigner (regardless of race), or did not specify a race.[22] Before the United States' borders expanded westward in the 19th century, New World regions colonized by the Spanish Empire since the 16th century held to a complex caste system
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 From 1850 through 1920 the Census Bureau expanded its racial categories to include all different races including Mestizos, Mulattos, Amerindians and Asians, and classified Mexicans and Mexican Americans as "White"[25] All Mexicans were legally (though not always socially) considered "White" either because they were considered to be of full Spanish heritage, or because of treaty obligations to Spaniards and Mexicans that conferred citizenship status at a time when whiteness was a
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@chsn09 was a prerequisite for U.S. citizenship.
The 1930 U.S. census revoked generic "white" status for Mexican Americans due to protests from Anglo Americans nativists. The new form asked for "color or race" and census workers were instructed to "write ‘W’ for White; ’Mex’ for Mexican."[26]
In the 1940 census, Mexican Americans were re-classified as White, due to widespread protests by the Mexican American community and the World War II-era Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration's
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@chsn09 the large majority of Mexicans can be considered as "Mestizos", meaning that they neither identify fully with any indigenous culture or with a particular non-Mexican heritage, but rather identify as having cultural traits and heritage that is mixed by elements from indigenous and European traditions. By the deliberate efforts of post-revolutionary governments the "Mestizo identity" was constructed as the base of the modern Mexican national identity,
ElJamon4Me 3 weeks ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Mexico has always been for the most part in conflict. First it was the Spanish & the Natives. Then the Mexicans & the French. Now the drug war. More people died in Mexico then Afghanistan & Iraq combined. MEXICO CITY — A total of 34,612 people have died in drug-related killings in Mexico in the four years. Compare that to 11 years of war in Afghanistan & Iraq which is around 6,370. Mexico also has the Murder Capital of the World in Ciudad Juarez.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@LaMariposaSedosa Juarez has become the murder capital of the world, with 2,600 dead last year. The death toll could be higher this year. It's on track to hit 3,000. Ciudad Juarez is next to El Paso Texas right off the Mexican border. However just recently the Center or Internal part of Mexico has begun to be hit with the drug war in affluent parts that have not been seen b4. This does not include kidnappings which Mexico is also probably one of the top 2 in the world. Only Columbia is Higher
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@LaMariposaSedosa The united states is 236 years old and began in 1776. Like I said in many Latin American countries slavery has been abolished less then 200 years or 2 centuries. Racism can be much worse for Afro-Latinos in Latin American countries compared to Latin Caribbean islands like Dominican Republic where the majority are or 85% are of African descent. The Whites are the minority in the Dominican Republic less than 15% of the population compared to Argentina which is 90% + Population
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me There's no winning with this guy -_-; maybe 90% is afro-descendent, but I want to make it clear that outsiders that we're not only that. We're also white and native and that's it. Nothing more, nothing less, and if I don't want misinformation to make someone cut their quest for identity short because they don't know any better. That's a good point you made on the Latin stuff. People these days have no idea what Latina even means and it's very alarming
kikito172 1 month ago
Here is where the confusion comes in Before Mexico was Mexico it was New Spain or Nueva Espana The people their were Nuevo Hispanos or New Hispanics but then France came & 2 show solidarity they said we all Latinos Technically they were correct because the people who had ancestry from Southern Europe were in power mostly had Latino Lineage but some did have Indigenous ancestry as well and many Telenovelas like Amor Real reflect and talk about the Indigenous aspect of Mexico.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me
I hope you realize that there is more Non Mexicans than there is Mexicans.
Mexico is a small part of Latin America, and all Latin Americans are not Mexican.
gunzt3rkenfu92 1 month ago
@gunzt3rkenfu92 First off what I said is that the 2 terms Hispano and Latino began in Mexico. Actually the term Latinos was first used - The term "Latin America" was used for the first time in the nineteenth century when the French occupied Mexico (1862–1867), leading to the Second Mexican Empire, and wanted to be included in what was considered Spanish America. source wikipedia One because Mexico was New Spain Nueva Espana so u had Nuevo Hispanos & Latinos because of the French.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@gunzt3rkenfu92 2nd I know all of Latin America & much of Latin America does not use Latino in their home countries because it is not necessary. Latino and Hispanic really came into use when Mexico lost its U.S territories California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, & Colorado the United States wanted people to identify other than Mexican since Mexico is next door and they did not want mixed loyalties so they many Mexicans used either Hispanic or Latino. Other words used are Chicano & Tejano
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@gunzt3rkenfu92 Small Part of Latin America. LOL It was the center or hub of the Spanish Empire. Caribbean islands are small.
The United Mexican States[14] (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos (help·info)), commonly known as Mexico. Mexico is the fifth largest country in the Americas by total area and the thirteenth largest independent nation in the world. With an estimated population of over 112 million,[9] it is the eleventh most populous country and the most populous Spanish-speaking country.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@gunzt3rkenfu92 Also I never stated that all Latin Americans are Mexican what I stated is how the words came to use by way of Mexico and the Mexican Empire. Mexican Americans are Americans of Mexican descent. As of July 2009, Mexican Americans make up 10.3% of the United States' population with over 31,689,000 Americans listed as of Mexican ancestry. Mexican Americans comprise 66% of all Hispanics & Latinos in the United States.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@gunzt3rkenfu92 Even the 2nd largest doesn't even come close to the Mexican population. Puerto Ricans form the second largest Hispanic group in the United States. There are over four million Puerto Ricans living stateside, with reports that this number exceeded the population in Puerto Rico for the first time in 2003. Do you know who built the Alamo? San Antonio de Valero Mission(originally referred to as San Antonio de Padua) was authorized by the Viceroy of Mexico in 1716.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
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As I said, Mexico is only a small part of Latin America put together. Latin America has almost 600 million people. You can't simply ignore 500,000,000 people because you really really like a small chunk of them, that's just silly.
Not to mention the largest ports belonging to Spain were nowhere near Mexico, they were in South America.
Although I agree with the terms coming from Mexico after contact with France. I misunderstood the comment at first.
gunzt3rkenfu92 1 month ago
If you would really like to know the Pinta and Nina and Santa Maria sailed in 1492 and sailed for the Spanish empire by an Italian who must of understood Spanish. Wow I wonder how that occurred because they are so foreign to each other. Me being sarcastic. Well both languages as we all know are based off Latin and have many similarities. If a Spanish wants to learn Italian or a Italian wants to learn Spanish it is not that difficult. Same with Portuguese and French. Yo So in Spanish & Je Suis
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
This is why the Gulf of Mexico is named the Gulf of Mexico and not the Gulf of the United States. I am not sure if you all are aware of this but you should actually see this add that many White Americans got offended by that should the true map before Mexico lost territories to the United States of America. Here is the link just copy and google it............ Mexico reconquers California? Absolut drinks to that!..................... The truth is much history has been hidden or covered up.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
Really Mexico itself was the center of the a new empire that reached into modern day North America. I mean the Anglo Saxon's whites did not build the Alamo nor did they build or many of the missions in the southwest which many cities were founded from Mexico itself stretched all the way up to Oregon to Texas all the way down to Central America. Actually Mexico is part of North America. Have you ever heard the word Tejano or Tex Mex? This means a Mexican born in Texas. It is like saying Chilango
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
Everything has a origin and if you want to find out what Latin means and where it began and where the language started from you must start at the beginning. Not in the middle of the story not in the Americas. However like an earlier commentator said. Latino has been revived in the new world by the French in Mexico & because of Mexico's media empire and telenovelas popularity worldwide they have revived not only Latino image but also the hispano one as well. Europeans mostly abandoned the Labels
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
Lets just be completely honest. Latins or Latino People are descendants from Southern Europe that include Spain, Portugal, France, Romania and its Origin Italy. Latinos are not Anglo Saxon or Nords or Scandinavians. They are a separate group with a common linage and language and culture as well as Religious beliefs. The majority are Roman Catholics. It is also important to remember that the Romans were a tribe that belonged to Old Latium region as well. These are the facts before 1492.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
I enjoy this documentary, As a mother to you a child who is black and puerto rican it is very important for him to understand his culture. I have found from my own observation that many latino's especially puerto ricans seem to only want to embrace their africanness when it comes to music and santeria.
clnikki 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me I'm mixed with the 3. My point is that the country is a mix of the 3 cultures and if you know where to look you'd realize the largest component of it is heavily surrounded by Taino contribution. I once told a group of Jamaicans, I was black and they laughed and called me Spanish. I refuse to identify as Spanish and correct people often because it's a bad representation of us. We're mixed, but native contributions are as a matter of fact downplayed I'm not an afro
kikito172 1 month ago
@kikito172 Well it does come down to likeness as well. I mean Barack Obama's mother is half white but he looks African and identifies as an African American despite his mother being white. Now this doesn't mean he does not recognize his whiteness he does. However it not just about how a person identifies himself but how other identify you. I mean everyone has eyes and if your likeness is African looking then regardless of what you consider yourself other people will view you as what they see.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@kikito172 Oh so you are a Trigueno since you are all 3. You maybe but many people on the island are not. The Dominican Republic just can't justify it with Modern Science when studies have shown trough DNA testing that much of the Population is African descent. Even the Anthropologist Juan Rodriguez Acosta stated in the documentary that 90% of the population is African descent. 22:38
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@SenoraDeMadrugada1 @ElJamon4Me yyup yup there are no 'purebloods' left yeah. My battle is more of a cultural one than a racial one although obviously someone should have some Taino blood to practice the culture. Identity issues are a social problem at times, but as long as no one is getting lynched for being that race or this, and there is mutual respect, all of us can be happy :P. I still encourage anyone to read up history of their country and their own family background one size =/= fit all
kikito172 1 month ago
@SenoraDeMadrugada1 lol I'm not trying to say EVERYONE is trying to downplay us but what I am saying is that sometimes in this Doc they do, and I just think film makers should be more careful about that. I'm all about consciousness of identity whether is be African etc. do what makes you feel best is my motto. The hatred I was talking about is more in general. People try to make is seem like anyone who claim Taino are crazy, illegitimate etc. i'm going to have to make a film soon smh ._______.
kikito172 1 month ago
@kikito172 Ok you were crying foul big time in that regard but I really didn't see it. I got the point that in general terms Dominicans claim Indio first and foremost, and I'm Dominican, the people who are THE FIRST to say yo soy india is the last person who would have ANY indigenous blood, this is just from my experience. Of course there will be admixture & Taino bloodlines passed on but DR has no more living FULLblood Indios like other LatAm countries. We can agree to disagree :-D
SenoraDeMadrugada1 1 month ago
@kikito172 And the DNA thing you brought up about Puerto Rico, I know what study you're talking about and they found 27% african DNA and 61% indigenous and 12% european. I'm guessing this is ppl who have MAJORITY of each but it doesnt say if it accounts for mixing in the ppl tested. Census they found even ppl who were majority african blood still checked white as the case in Brazil where at one point only 8% "identified" with Afro now the census is over 50% afro-descendant. Major turn
SenoraDeMadrugada1 1 month ago
@SenoraDeMadrugada1 That is exactly right about Brazil. I think it is changing slowly all over Latin America as far a realizing the denial or misinformation or shame or cover up of trying to whiting Latin America. A prime example is the Dominican Republic where Trujillo implemented the Blanquismo in the D.R. However times are changing and people are more aware of how they are viewed and self recognition.
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@kikito172 The thing I don't understand if you are mixed race either Spanish and Taino then why R U worried about it. Even Spanish or African their is a point where if U R light enough I do understand where your likeness is no longer that of an African black man and can't identify. My point is though is that in the Dominican Republic the minority is mixed race and white. Their is a point though where your population can be seen as African if 1/3 of the Population or greater is of African descent
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@kikito172 This is my whole point Puerto Rico 1/3 or 33% is African Descent it can be considered a Afro Latino country as well as Cuba almost 50% or 1/2 of the population is Afro descendants and they can be considered and Afro Latino country. When you talk to D.R at minimum it is 75% or 3/4 to 90% or 9/10 of the population African Descent country. Unlike Argentina where less than 1% of the population is of African Descent they cannot be considered and Afro Latino 'country as well. as Mexico 1%
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me Mexico can't be considered an Afro Latino country because the population of Africans is 1% unlike many Caribbean countries. These countries Afro population is under 33% of the population & can't really be considered Afro Countries. Uruguay 4% Argentina Under 1% Paraguay, Chile, Peru 3% Costa Rica 3% Just to name a few Now one can Argue someare more a Mestizo Spanish/Indigenous population yes depending on what country U are talking about. Again Argentina is under 2% so not applicable
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago
@ElJamon4Me This is why I caution U must look at each individual Country in Latin America to determine each countries African population to determine their makeup. It can't be a 1 size fits all approach I mean if a African American marries a Chinese woman in China & they live in China does that make China an African country? No. Now if a 1/3 or 33% Chinese men & woman married African descent people & they live in China U can make more of the case that yes a third of their make up is Afro descent
ElJamon4Me 1 month ago