it has a solenoid valve on one side to let water in at certain intervals and a over flow attached with a solenoid that operates at the same time.say for 3 second every 5 minutes.
i think it is a good idea but maybe improvments can be acheived with new fresh ideas on the bubbles diffusion as i can not visually see the effectivness of it and it is crucial to the results.
it does have a hole through the top like we all do but the difference is i have a very long cell with some bubble or foam diffuse in it so the electroylyte never gets near the holes and hence no loss or very minimal.
my ceel is 600mm tall and 100mm wide. i have not done any tests yet but i beleive in the concept. cont......
My next design will be a true no hole device. I have a fairly simple concept in my head that should work. It will allow the cell to stay full all the time but never all electrolite to the top of the plates. It does not involve any level switches or any electronics at all just natural HHO pressure and gravity. Tough to describe in a post but I will show it and explain it in a video as soon as I get it built.
Larry, I am happy that you followed the lead on the nano coating!! I hope it works well. I will keep my eyes open for other opportunities in the nano field and on your progress.
Hi Larry thats a 5 star find, think you could post the URL for that web site in your Description box for this video? Or just email it to me! I would like to have a look at it. Much thanks john...
Nice, I look forward to the results..... The only thing I really cant get a grip on (I may be wrong)is if the SS is resistive like it is and you coat it with a better conductive metal , How can that help in a dry cell , cause the electric still has to pass thru the SS anyway...I may be missing something ....
Yes you are missing a very important fact. It is the same one I overlooked many times. It really is very simple and in front of all our faces. If your plate is 6" X 6" and you have an electrical connection in one corner. The electrons must pass through 6" plus the length of your connection to just get to the bottom of the plate. Even farther to get to the far corner. As the electricity passes through the plate it loses voltage.
The end result is lower voltage the further away from the connection you get. The higher the voltage the more amps that will be pushed through the electrolite. The end result is uneven current throughout the entire cell and an ineffecient device. Electricity is lazy. It will flow to the path of least resistance. If you have a low resistance coating on the plate the electrons will charge the plate much more evenly.
Now the entire plate has a much mor even voltage. The electricity has only the thickness of the stainless plate to flow through. 16 guage stainless is only 1/16" thick. This will lose much less voltage than the 6" then the 1/16" thickness for the electricity to flow through. The end result should be much more even voltage through the entire cell. Combine that with 1000% more surface area and I think that we are on to something that will really help.
I wonder if the coating will also extend the life of the plates?
I noticed that you mentioned a possible holeless design that you are working on, but for a standard drycell will the plates need to be pre-drilled before they are coated? I'd imagine that they coating would chip if you had to drill it.
I have spent a ton of time talking with them. They say that the plates can be drilled after coating if one wished to. In addition to the extra surface area I am getting totally away from holes in the plates. I have beat my head against the wall trying to get around current leakage for the last time. I have a design in my head that should work great. It is just going to take me some time to get to it.
i dont mean on the outside plates exposed to the electrolyte though just the surface you see. i hope you understand this as i beleive their to be a resistance here that can be negated with this idea. hope you try this and mention me as credit as it makes me happy to hear my username metioned by people like minded. haha regards andy
i have another great thought i have not put to the test yet.
as the stainless has low carbon in it it is a bad conductor so i was thinking of some conductive material to cover the whole nagative plate on the outer most plates so that they can supply power more evenly over the plate surface.i was thinking of some sort of highly conductive spray but now i am thinking of thethick nickel treatment on the very outside plates. cont...
Yes I beleive 3-d is the wave of the next generation, did you notice in my prepration of my high density plates that they are eteched in feric chloride ?, they also take on the frosted microscoptic 3-d surface,though not as much as the treatment you are haveing done maybe more thanthe glass beading by it's self. Anyway , Very Very, nicely done, can't wait...
Hey I guess we are stimulating the economy.
Hollywoods7 2 years ago
Geat info,how expensive is this process,I am going to coat my neg plates with super corna dope just for a test.Might last longer.
Hollywoods7 2 years ago
It is very Expensive. Usually about $90.00 per plate but the results are supposed to be outstanding. We will see soon.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
What are you going to do with the Super Corona Dope? Protect the holes from current leakage?
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Yes,I sent you a reply .Yeah that is expensive hope you can get past the average lpm cell.With lower amps, we will see.
Hollywoods7 2 years ago
it has a solenoid valve on one side to let water in at certain intervals and a over flow attached with a solenoid that operates at the same time.say for 3 second every 5 minutes.
i think it is a good idea but maybe improvments can be acheived with new fresh ideas on the bubbles diffusion as i can not visually see the effectivness of it and it is crucial to the results.
regards andy
kissmyhho 2 years ago
hi larry.
i have a holeless design to sortof.
it does have a hole through the top like we all do but the difference is i have a very long cell with some bubble or foam diffuse in it so the electroylyte never gets near the holes and hence no loss or very minimal.
my ceel is 600mm tall and 100mm wide. i have not done any tests yet but i beleive in the concept. cont......
kissmyhho 2 years ago
My next design will be a true no hole device. I have a fairly simple concept in my head that should work. It will allow the cell to stay full all the time but never all electrolite to the top of the plates. It does not involve any level switches or any electronics at all just natural HHO pressure and gravity. Tough to describe in a post but I will show it and explain it in a video as soon as I get it built.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Larry, I am happy that you followed the lead on the nano coating!! I hope it works well. I will keep my eyes open for other opportunities in the nano field and on your progress.
10gigabit 2 years ago
Thanks for the lead.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Hi Larry thats a 5 star find, think you could post the URL for that web site in your Description box for this video? Or just email it to me! I would like to have a look at it. Much thanks john...
GoGreenHHOhybrid 2 years ago
wow! here is some progress.....
hhotechnology 2 years ago
Lets hope so.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
I can't wait ! Fire that baby up !
Davehho1 2 years ago
Nice, I look forward to the results..... The only thing I really cant get a grip on (I may be wrong)is if the SS is resistive like it is and you coat it with a better conductive metal , How can that help in a dry cell , cause the electric still has to pass thru the SS anyway...I may be missing something ....
jdcmusicman 2 years ago
Yes you are missing a very important fact. It is the same one I overlooked many times. It really is very simple and in front of all our faces. If your plate is 6" X 6" and you have an electrical connection in one corner. The electrons must pass through 6" plus the length of your connection to just get to the bottom of the plate. Even farther to get to the far corner. As the electricity passes through the plate it loses voltage.
Continued
HHOPWR 2 years ago
The end result is lower voltage the further away from the connection you get. The higher the voltage the more amps that will be pushed through the electrolite. The end result is uneven current throughout the entire cell and an ineffecient device. Electricity is lazy. It will flow to the path of least resistance. If you have a low resistance coating on the plate the electrons will charge the plate much more evenly.
Continue
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Now the entire plate has a much mor even voltage. The electricity has only the thickness of the stainless plate to flow through. 16 guage stainless is only 1/16" thick. This will lose much less voltage than the 6" then the 1/16" thickness for the electricity to flow through. The end result should be much more even voltage through the entire cell. Combine that with 1000% more surface area and I think that we are on to something that will really help.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Great idea!
I wonder if the coating will also extend the life of the plates?
I noticed that you mentioned a possible holeless design that you are working on, but for a standard drycell will the plates need to be pre-drilled before they are coated? I'd imagine that they coating would chip if you had to drill it.
Can't wait to see your test results.
HHO4ALL 2 years ago
I have spent a ton of time talking with them. They say that the plates can be drilled after coating if one wished to. In addition to the extra surface area I am getting totally away from holes in the plates. I have beat my head against the wall trying to get around current leakage for the last time. I have a design in my head that should work great. It is just going to take me some time to get to it.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Are you going to stager holes and flood plates intirely?, or have you gave it any thought ?
llewgnal 2 years ago
I am going to build a device that does not require holes. Stay tuned. It is all in my head now but will be reality soon
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
i dont mean on the outside plates exposed to the electrolyte though just the surface you see. i hope you understand this as i beleive their to be a resistance here that can be negated with this idea. hope you try this and mention me as credit as it makes me happy to hear my username metioned by people like minded. haha regards andy
kissmyhho 2 years ago
gday mate
great thoughts here.
i have another great thought i have not put to the test yet.
as the stainless has low carbon in it it is a bad conductor so i was thinking of some conductive material to cover the whole nagative plate on the outer most plates so that they can supply power more evenly over the plate surface.i was thinking of some sort of highly conductive spray but now i am thinking of thethick nickel treatment on the very outside plates. cont...
kissmyhho 2 years ago
That is what the nano particle coating is all about. Nickel/Iron is way more conductive than stainless.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Yes I beleive 3-d is the wave of the next generation, did you notice in my prepration of my high density plates that they are eteched in feric chloride ?, they also take on the frosted microscoptic 3-d surface,though not as much as the treatment you are haveing done maybe more thanthe glass beading by it's self. Anyway , Very Very, nicely done, can't wait...
llewgnal 2 years ago
Thanks Gary, I will post results as soon as I can. You keep up your great work and between all of us that are trying to help we will get this done.
HHOPWR 2 years ago
I'm wondering what the burn in time will be for those?
Looking forward to the testing on these
big time!!!
LarryMReed 2 years ago
Be patient. I WILL be back with results but first I am going to get the tests going with the current device.
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Very nice, I hope you get great results
ttward2 2 years ago
Thanks. I am sure I will.
HHOPWR 2 years ago