If you study the pineal gland in depth you will realize it is not that humans have this special "soul" that is released when they die. It is that humans, through mass amounts of DMT release, have the ability to perceive an afterlife. Study frequencies and dimensions to learn more of what this afterlife exactly is. All we believe is simply individual theory however. But my point, not for or against your argument, is that the pineal gland (which does indeed differentiate humans from other species
To answer that idiot that said that "when you die a very small amount of weight(less than a dime) is lost," when a person dies they let out air and "stuff". Besides, if souls were real, why would they weigh anything if they were immaterial?????? Think it over...
Evolutionism scares people, because it says at some point you were just an animal, and the more people like you try to bring some to reason (let’s face it Ray Comfort is unchangeable), the more they will reach for the weak minded, literally brainwashing, gaining control over the population, and so we lose opportunity to learn, human nature is to adapt and absorb information not to deprive itself of basic needs and habits under false promises of a fake God.
yes animals do have souls...why else would we be told to preserve them (basically) to think of food as medicine... i dont know when the soul is put in but when you die a very small amount of weight(less than a dime) is lost...maybe that is the soul leaving the body....those bongs in the back of your room explain your whole rant
When I believed in the soul, I believed animals had souls too. Anything with a brain had a soul, and therefore there was no reason for a soul to be injected at some point in evolution as we already had them. Now, however, I'm not so sure of the existence of souls.
Your videos are awesome man you should have way more subscribers. I just found your channel today you seem to look at the world an awful lt like me. keep up the good work!
destiny is something animals will never understand if u understand destiny u won't even jump to the sound of a gun theres a reason why we don't have eyes in the back of are head u should think about it
Ur views are extremely biased, wat u believe in is no more legit then religious beliefs, since u didn't discover anything on ur own basically some1 u dont even know was able to infiltrate and mold ur mind into to wat they want by presenting u information that is only legit becuz they say so, das no different then believing in da words in a black book dat are made legit by the book itself, if u haven't discovered da truth on ur own u cn never be sure if da wool has been pulld over ur eyes
@NoxDeadly the thing is, these are NOT beleifs. they are based on direct evidence which can be observed and tested independantly. for example, if you walked into a store and saw a guy on the floor, shot to death, and someone with a gun going through the till, would it be fair to assume that an armed robbery is taking place? or would you have to have actually *been* there to even have an opinion? evidence is not biased.
@robokill387 unless u've done the research urself u can't say wat is fact just becuz a book says so, text books change every year so to except this "evolution" bullshit as fact without checkin for urself is just ignorance, how do u kno the results of any of the experiments done hasn't been altered? ur letting strangers shape ur perception of reality, if ur gonna believe in evolution, believe in it cuz u proved it is real on ur own
I know I have a 'soul' because, although there is no actual distinction between my brain and the rest of the cosmos, the only thing I experience is information processed by that brain. INFORMATION, not matter or energy. If you think about it, you have to admit that you have a soul too - we just can't prove it to each other. Maybe something can 'gain soul' when it gains order, abstraction, information. Ostensibly this is magic talk, but the only thing I know for sure is that I AM a 'soul'.
@SolRosenberg84 well pretty much all of his metaphysics, and physics refers to the science and complexity of beings. Being them from the simplest form of life to the most complex, which he would consider human life. As he is simply the first one to categorise species, the simplicity of it is expected, but as for the degree of physical complexity, it implies the same of metaphysical...
@SolRosenberg84 hence why i think you are mixing theology here with philosophy...If we have indeed developed differently from other species, this means that they have a metaphysical level different from ours, it can be argued the superiority of ours but indeed the difference is not open to question.
Yes, we seem superior by our own standards. We seem downright clever and in tune whilst everything else seems stupid.
However, Christians find Christianity superior over Hinduism when judging it by Christian standards, and Hindus find Hinduism superior to Christianity when judging it by Hindu standards.
"Standards" are funny things.
A good video to watch would be "The Uniqueness of Humans".
watch?v=hrCVu25wQ5s
We are apes who can do quantum physics, but apes nonetheless.
@SolRosenberg84 Its not because something can do quantum physics it implies that we are somewhat equal to it does it? Its like comparing us to bats because they can communicate through sound. We find Christianity to be true because Christ is the only man to have claimed to be God and actually willed to die for that claim. And he's the only man to have resurrected, what did the hindu gods do?
You can't be equal to quantum physics. Thats like being "equal" to gravity - it makes no sense.
We humans are good at noticing patterns. This is all mathematics, and most of science, really is. By compiling our observed common patterns about reality together, we form more accurate abstractions of what reality is. You don't transcend reality by learning about it, you just get a slightly better idea of how it works. Learning about gravity does not make one float.
But in Hinduism, everyone is God. Walking up to someone and saying "I'm god" is a good thing. To them it means you figured something out. But to be frank, I don't care. I'm not Hindu. If you want to prove your beliefs are better then Hinduism than go talk to a Hindu.
You have also seemed to miss my point entirely. We humans tend to be blind to our biases. Hence my point about standards.
@SolRosenberg84 i think you are shifting topics...Christianity is the only religion who has someone who claimed to be God in flesh and was resurrected from the dead...
@tempo3rd Well the overwhelming evidence for the empty Tomb of Jesus and the over 500 seers who saw him after he had been crucified is a good example. There is not much of a historical disagreement on the resurrection
We have gone way off track. My point is that humans are blind to their own biases, their own standards and ideals seem perfectly fine to them because they are human. The imagined divide between humans and their surroundings is just that - imaginary. If you watched the video I linked to, you'd see that humans are just another permutation; a refinement of certain traits and survival strategies. We are still part of nature, more so than our petty egos dare admit.
@TheEcumenator wat u believe in is no more legit then religious beliefs, since u didn't discover anything on ur own basically some1 u dont even know was able to infiltrate and mold ur mind into to wat they want by presenting u information that is only legit becuz they say so, das no different then believing in da words in a black book dat are made legit by the book itself, if u haven't discovered da truth on ur own u cn never be sure if da wool has been pulld over ur eyes
I see where you are coming from, but i think its crazyhow people would rather believe that we came from SLIME then from a higher power like GOD. Plus is see u smoke the weed..stop talking about what GOD did and didnt do, just read the BIBLE it explains any question you have with your life. Just do it. :D
You are "slime" right now - highly organized slime, but slime nonetheless.
Our civilization has bitten into the fruit of knowledge, and has been forever expelled from the eden of intuitive comfort - yet there still persist a few poor souls who spent their day banging on the gates of eden, and sadder yet, those who have no accepted we even left in the first place. As they spend their days lost in confusion, they miss the beauty of the cosmos around them.
So you are related to a pile of doggy-doo in my yard? I can see that. (you ramble way too much) You are so exhausting with your BBbbbbbbbb, dDddddd, when youre trying to make a point.
Yo craker ass bitch, you be made of the same shit as the dog shit in your back yard skank ass bitch ho, just in a more functional configuration mother fucker. Carbon, water, nitrogen, phosphorus, iron, and some other shit makes up dog shit, and guess what jizzstain it makes up your dumb ass to. Textbook bitch start fuckin readin it.
Ok, enough of that, but in all seriousness attacking the presentation of an idea is pretty low - how about you attack the ideas next time?
@SolRosenberg84 That was the point! I couldnt get past your rambling to even listen to what you were saying! I wasnt trying to be completely offensive- just maybe a little. Your video is playing in the background while I type this. Its at 3:44 and I cant take it any more. Sucks because you have a cute face which makes me want to listen...but i JUST CANT.
The worker in the fields long ago would ask his boss "hey why am I not getting anywhere?" & his boss would tell'em "hey, when ya kick the bucket you'll get it all!" Nothing more...
First and foremost, I think it depends on what you define as 'soul'. Some say that the soul is the sum of your mind, will and emotions; in this case, I have no reason to doubt its existence, though I wonder if maybe animals would have it too? But I don't think that humans are anymore special with their magic-souls, which you talked about, than animals. We're different in that our brain is more developed, yes; but that's no foundation for our supposed superiority. We ARE animals - we're mammals.
oh btw, if my view is correct Ardipithecus Ramedus indicates we were never "chimp-like' but rather that chimps were more "human-like" Our common ancestor was more like us than them and their specialized characters came after they split from us whereas we physically changed little in comparison.
True - our recent ancestors were more human than chimp, and even when they were more ape-like, it did not mean they were more chimp like. The chimp line I use is in jest, the only reason I do it is to remind people that they are apes.
Have you seen the video where the chimp conciously picked a bamboo stick stripped it of its leaves and hunted prey with it? Chimps have forsight too its pretty amazing.
Birds of the Crow family are also quite intelligent, they often succeed in experiments quite similar to those made with apes. Sometimes even without "trial and error", but just by observing the setup of the experiment and then acting out of pure deducing.
I've personally witnessed the cleverness of Carrion Crows and Jays, and the audacity of Alpine Choughs when we go hiking or Deep-sky observing in the Alps. Sometimes I see and hear Ravens there, I like these moments.
Course you have a lot of good points. Really, really good ones. Matter of fact, what you say's totally logical in pretty much every respect.
I guess that's why they call it 'faith', huh? Those who believe in it don't really need proof. Which is, admittedly, not the most efficient way to go about life..
"soul insertion" ... thats doesnt sound right; but hey, im not one to judge, whatever gets you off, as long as its between a consenting adult and a deity that knows what its doing
This is all pure wickedness. If the soul has to be supposed to give us morality, which listening to most atheists I am inclined to think it does, then there is a good transcendental (ish) reason to posit it. The immortal soul is necessary to givve us morality and we caannot think or operate without morality therefore the soul must bee posited.
Human morality has a strong empirical basis. Aspects of human morality are found throughout the animal kingdom. A combination of culture, biology, and brain structure fits the evidence better than a non-physical aspect of consciousness found only in humans. False premise.
Moral decision making is not a trait on which awareness is dependant. Sociopaths feel no empathy, and as such do no real moral decision making - however, they are quite sentient. False premise.
@SolRosenberg84 I don't think the premise is false when you appreciate I made a transcendental argument. You might say biology provides an explanation as to why we also organize our sense perceptions according to time and space or know, as synthetic a prior knowledge, that all events (that are possible to experience) have causes. That would not mean cause or time could be said to be illusions or better explained by bioligy. The same goes for morality. The things in themselves do not matter.
>that all events (that are possible to experience) have causes.
Nice little clause added there, trying to dodge quantum mechanics. However, naked eye sized objects have already been put into quantum states, putting them into experience territory, so your clause fails. Not to mention that virtual particles, the causeless bits of matter that pop in and out of existence, produce physical reactions we can estimate and measure (which is why we are confident of their existence.)
Also, in regards to your bigoted little comment against non-believers - the statistics don't agree with you. Atheists, agnostics, and non-believers have the lowest representation rate in prisons when compared to the population at large. Countries with the lower religious rates have lower crime rates. Atheist marriages even last longer.
Of course, correlation does not spell causation - however, it goes to show your childish bigotry has no empirical basis.
@SolRosenberg84 If someone admits he cannot talk meaningfully about morality and says all the traditional pre-suppositions that once grounded morality have to go, would you think he was moral or not? Truly, atheists are little better than the beasts.
>Truly, atheists are little better than the beasts.
According to you, atheists are little better than beasts, while Christians have true moral authority. However, Christians are not better behaved than atheists as a whole. We atheists are not equally represented in jail (while Christians are), our marriages are more successful, and countries with high numbers have less crime and other problems.
This is evidence against your ideas. Present evidence, or your ideas fail.
@StAugustinvThePagans Well you're a disgusting arrogant little hater aren't you? Tell your god to make the O face next time. His teeth chaff when he isn't paying attention.
@StAugustinvThePagans Didn't Ted Haggard believe in the soul? George Rekers? Jim Bakker? All those Catholic priests who have molested children? Yeah, believing in the soul sure does make one a moral person....
@TaylorX04 If no plausible account of morality can be provided except when constructed on theistic pre-suppositions we will have to go with that, as morality is too important a part of human experience to shed. Although atheists can certainly be very moral they have no grounds to be so, their goodness can only, when they look at it objectively (which they are usually so fond of doing) be either merely whimsical or purely founded upon self-interest.
@StAugustinvThePagans So an imagined grounds for morality is better than one that is self-sustained? That sounds an awful lot like saying the moral laws of a dictator are preferable to those of free individuals, because they have an external grounding (for all but the dictator!). The line between objective and relativistic morality is not as clearly drawn as you theists would like us to believe though.
@TaylorX04 No but my meta-ethical theory is not imagined. The ens realissimum can never be a dictator or a tyrant because tyranny is mis-rule or rule for the good of one rather than for the interests of all. So by definition you can't compare God to a tyrant.
@StAugustinvThePagans By your own definition, God IS a tyrant, since he does rule for the interest of one instead of all. He desires to mold us back into his image, teaches self-denial while expecting us to worship him like mindless drones, and we were even created to glorify God! Or did you conveniently forget all these things? God is the archetypal tyrant.
@TaylorX04 That may be your opinion but it is not my definition as you can see very well (I never said God only rules for one) and I don't know why you think you can fool me by claiming it was. Clearly the wicked are not to be expected to appreciate the rule of the just and shall be inclined to call it tyranny. Do you imagine I will find your argument remotely persuasive?
I personally regard the "soul" as being just a poetic descriptive term for the electrochemical activity in our brain that ceases to function when the brain dies. No real mystery, except to the daft. Nice vid.
I have been learning about evolution for like a year now and understand it fairly well, but I still really don't think evolution is possible in the way it is proposed to have brought about every living thing in all its mass variety and complexity. I know there are arguments against this and I have heard most, but I still can't persuade myself to accept that this massive system of life could have arose out of non-life and become what it is today. Sorry, and I'm not a stupid creationist either.
@theWestonian um, hell yes it does. The ability and probability of a self replicating system arriving out of non-replicating molecules is the foundation of evolution, and seems impossible. Plus, in order for a system of evolution to arise out of a replicating system, it would have to pass several large milestones on its way. Evolution does seem somewhat obvious today, but how did the system even get started? If you consider the path of change required, its totally insane.
@theWestonian I know. I know the difference between evolution and Abiogenesis. However, you can't have a system of evolution without Abiogenesis unless you believe that something like God set in motion the first replicating organisms. That is my point, that it seems so impossible that life could, by itself, arise from self-replicating molecules and then proceed to evolve into everything we have today.
Also, the only difference between "life" and "non-life" is structure. Life doesn't have magical intrinsic qualities, its just matter in a highly reactive, functional form.
I love animals, if they don't have souls, I guess that means no animals in heaven, so count me out. The Abrahamic gods are such vile evil monsters anyway. Why would anybody want them to be real?
I'm so curious what would happen if another species rose on this planet and threatened to supplant homo-sapiens. I mean if we didn't blow them up from the get-go and actually gave them a chance... what would happen...
Hey, Sol. You're in college right? What are you studying?
@SolRosenberg84 Of course I ask mostly because I want to stalk you and watch and breathe on your windows, but a close second reason is I'm just curious about what interests you. What do you like studying? What would you like to do as a career for the long term. Your videos are always interesting I can't help but be curious.
My academic interests? I'm interested in core biology, genetics, and botany. Haven't really decided between these yet, kinda depends on what I'm better at.
@SolRosenberg84 I thought about getting into genetics myself, but I don't think it's interesting enough for me to see it through. Cool. Did you get a degree in English? :)
Even worse - general arts and science. A few of my high school grades were pretty bad, so I needed something I was guaranteed entry into and could hopefully use to prove that I won't just skip all my classes. My high school grades are still haunting me like a freaking ghost though.
@SolRosenberg84 Ah, wild. I can't imagine HS grades haunting you once you get into college? Do colleges really look at those once you've taken college classes? Sheesh.
Yeah, a friend of mine got an English degree in California (his diploma is signed by the Governator). He says it's more useful as a fire starter than finding any job.
the only way that people can hold these two ideas and not have a totally stupid logical hurdle to get over is if they think that every single life form has a soul, including bacteria, fungi etc
I have submitted a video response. Not STRICTLY relevant to this particular video, but more to your ethos as a whole. It is up to you whether or not you accept my response.
We've exchanged posts and I know your channel, and you might voice real concerns.
But in several discussions I've seen that if one side is lacking real arguments and risking to "lose the debate", it brings forward psychological points that somehow put the other side in a problematic light. And if the counterpart may be liable to drug addiction, alcohol and mental problems oneself suddenly gains
a kind of superiority in another way - compensating for "losing the debate".
...anyway, I think of a soul as the deepest part of a person's consciousness, even what you could call instincts; it is what you were born with, as opposed to everything your environment has made out of you (which is pretty much everything in the physical realm).
I agree, I'm certain the only way any theist can properly account for the existence of trilobites is to admit their god of choice likely has substance abuse issues.
I just got to thinking about the common ancestory thing. Although I fully accept this idea, why MUST it be true. I mean, isn't it possible that abiogenesis occured more than once and at various locations on earth. I can imagine my ancestral line going back to one pile of primordial ooze, plants leading to another pile of ooze, and so on and so forth. Why is it necessary to think that ALL life is related? ...even though it's probably true; how do we know abiogenesis only occured once?
@AmGoDDoGmA cont'd. If abiogenesis was not an isolated event, these different life-forms would, by implication, be unrelated biologically. All species would still be related to each other via their origins in the earth and stars, but our ancestory, in the strictest sense of the word, would not be "common." What are your thoughts, and how do we know for sure what the primordial conditions were? PEACE; love the channel!
No, no, you are correct. The concept of a soul is illogical. But, nonetheless I firmly believe in a soul, or rather believe in a soul to a large extent. I have heard, seen, and experienced too much which has convinced me of that reality. And yes, I think animals have souls. I don't know about goo lol
Why are some Humans so arrogant, the Earth is the center of the Universe (disproved) the Earth is the center of the solar system (disproved) the Earth is flat (disproved) The only thing keeping us at the top of the food chain is technology and intelligence.
I was just having this conversation with a friend last night. You, however, articulated this point a bit better than I did. I love your vids, SolRosenberg84 :) Have a wonderful day!
We haven't yet explained the mystery of consciousness but I'm sure neurology will unlock it at some point. I would love to read biology textbooks that will be published several hundred years from now.
If there is such a thing as a "soul", say some kind of energy or whatever, I'm sure we'll discover the natural properties by which it works. If not, the term may still be useful as a metaphor for our conscious selves.
I`m a christian who does research and USES HIS FUCKING BRAIN, and i know that halve the bible is probably product of man changing it for benefit, or whatever the else the fuck they wanted, and the bible in itself is flawed because in the translating of bible old to bible new both from Judaism and from dead sea scrolls, is flawed, i still believe in god mind you, but i think using common sense and my own morals Iv`e formed over my life is how i should live, not bye blind worship, which is a no no
Augustine of Hippo couldn't handle the idea that the "Noble Reason" could possibly rise from the impure and corruptible body. There must exist another component to human beings beside the earth and breath of Gen 2:7. And so the Soul was reasoned into existence.
I'm still waiting religious persons to answer question that I have made...
If some person has split personalities... other one beleaves in god while other one is atheist. Does he go to hell or heaven? Or does he have 2 souls in one body?
We can make more personalities to other people, by some questionable methods... in otherwords are we able to create new souls?
I have long thought that if we alone had a controlling immaterial soul then nature programmes would be forced to point out how chimps have the most complex brains in nature - our brains being about as large and complex as a rabbits having had all the functions removed that the soul performs.
I've been thinking of the EXACT same thing, Mike. So dogs don't go to heaven? Cats don't have a soul? yet we do? What is this shit?! Anyway, another terrific video! Keep it up.
I've been thinking the exact same thing recently - but of course the fundie christian would simply say the first souls were inserted into adam and eve as they were (yawn) the first people on earth. However you provide a much tougher question for the moderate to answer. Good video.
I've heard some British Christian professor argue that if a species reaches a sufficiently high level of cognition, their brains will act as an antenna that receives part of the "Great Soul". It seems a rather Hegelian idea whereby, upon death, the connections ends and the Soul has assimilated your experiences in itself or "you" have in some sense become part of it. New-age Christianity, I guess.
2:00,Chimpanzees also have the rudimentary faculty of making tools to gather termites to eat or to crack nuts to eat.
3:05, The bacteria are not only on our skin, they are part of our bodies, their number exceeds the number of out cells.
Good humour!
A good question - when did the 'soul' appear? Or did our ancestors invent the concept of a soul, when they saw that when somebody dies, he stops breathing. The etymology of the word 'soul' comes from 'breath' in ancient languages.
@dewinthemorning I'll tell you what I heard, though I doubt seriously it's true...and...well, sorry about this.... When something dies it's parts break down and decompose into a gaseous state. At some point it gets....released. The theory is that someone heard (or smelled) this phenomenon and assumed, since it was dead that a soul was freed......this is just a theory, but I've heard it twice so far....sorry, but I warned you, lol
@skywize So that's what the soul is? This smelly, putrid gaseous thing, released after someone dies? And before he dies, this same thing is in his body. Doesn't bear thinking!
@MrKrov (from wikipedia) The notions of a person's 'spirit' and 'soul' often overlap, as both contrast the body... In Latin 'spiritus' is 'breath'.
That was my way of thinking. In Greek 'soul' is derived from a verb, meaning 'cool, blow'. In Bulgarian, the word for 'soul' has an unmistakable connection with 'breath'. In other Indo-European languages as well.
I once talked with a creationist who said that one species besides humans might have something of a soul and these animals were....... beavers :) Seriously. He said it was based on something in the Bible's Apocalypse, but couldn't point to the exact passage. Good times.
I am starting to wonder if our "family tree" is real. We must have come from aliens or something because no other species on the planet is mentally screwed enough to believe in gods. I'm not saying they never will, but we'd be the idiots telling them, lol. Can't you see it? a scene from Planet Of The Apes II where someone is teaching their chimp about the bible, and the chimp saying something like "what the hell have you been smoking?".
I don't comprehend this video. What "soul" are you speaking about that interacts (or from your video) is "inside" a human? I have never heard such nonsense.
the Soul is an eternal immaterial object which has no specific association with the human body.
Perhaps you have combined the pop-Christian view of "spirit" and "mind" together to produce this form of "soul" ?
I'm confused as to why you would bring up ghosts in a discussion of the NATURAL. But anyways, as I stated, the soul is an eternal immaterial object unrelated to the human existence. It has existed eternally before time itself came into being (however the soul was created in the mind of God at the same time as the angels).
"celestial data backup" = now that is funny. I like how your mind works.
@smartwarlord Actually it does go a bit further than pop-christianity, though you are correct in the explanation. I have actually heard that it is in a specific part of the body....no, not that part.... actually there are more than one theory,.... or a theory and a movie. (sorry, that's how well my mind retains information, lol).I have heard it explained,...at length... that when you die, your body loses a few grams of weight, and that is the soul leaving.....whatever, lol
Soul and Spirit have always been completely separate. Have you read the Bible before? Or are you receiving your information second-hand from an illiterate Christian?
@smartwarlord Nah, i stay away from them christians. This is due to my poor sense of English and its implications. To me they are the same thing. But if you say spirit means this and soul means that...then I will consider.
Spirit - Eternal form of being (there is two forms of being, the flesh (your body) and the spirit. The spirit inhabits your earthly body, and when God knit you together in your mother's womb, he at that time gave you a spirit. When you die your spirit leaves the body.
Soul - (f0r me at least) is a eternal immaterial object outside the realm of time/matter/space, and thus similar to angels was created before the universe. Every living human being (homo-sapien--sapien) has one.
I don't know what YOU believe, but most people that believe that the soul is the one who decides by the paradoxical notion of free will. Also they believe that the soul obtains information from the material world. For example I read your post and decide to facepalm: To do that my soul has to receive the information of your post from the material world by my material eyes and then send the order to my material hand to facepalm. That's the common view among soul believers.
that in of itself is a contradiction. If something is immaterial, it can`t be an object as it simply has nothing to define it as such. In fact its got nothing to define it at all. No connection to human body? So then this thing is disassociated with all of your brains Activity and experiences entirely? I`v never heard that concept of a soul before. LoL Gotta love, Substance dualism. Amusing and confusing people since the stone age.
@smartwarlord The Invisible pink unicorn can be Comprehended intellectually.
does this mean that this is a real object? The same applies for your strange hazy mystical non-existing soul thing that apparently has no connection with reality at all.
@smartwarlord What I don't understand is why the soul needs a body in the first place. I guess a soul doesn't really need a body? Then why does it use one?
And at which point in evolution have souls started to inhabit material bodies? Hm...
@DarkMatter2525 The answer I've gotten to this very question is that the soul is a part of God, which explains the "made in the image of god" argument.
I find it better to ask the following question: If humans have souls and animals do not - then WHEN did humans get souls? Did got just HAPPEN to have some extra when the Homo Sapiens Sapiens started to develop? And also - so God creates souls all the time, since humans are increasing in numbers? If so: Why send them to hell? :P
Eternal from the standpoint of existence. Before I was created (along with everyone else) I did not "exist" (whatever that would entail).
But the question "Who Created God" is an invalid statement. If you permit the discussion of God, you must also carry along the necessary "baggage" for the discussion. And that is, to accept that He (or she i suppose) is uncreated, and therefore any question regarding His existence is invalid and demonstrates your immaturity.
If you study the pineal gland in depth you will realize it is not that humans have this special "soul" that is released when they die. It is that humans, through mass amounts of DMT release, have the ability to perceive an afterlife. Study frequencies and dimensions to learn more of what this afterlife exactly is. All we believe is simply individual theory however. But my point, not for or against your argument, is that the pineal gland (which does indeed differentiate humans from other species
ponaxfb 2 months ago
To answer that idiot that said that "when you die a very small amount of weight(less than a dime) is lost," when a person dies they let out air and "stuff". Besides, if souls were real, why would they weigh anything if they were immaterial?????? Think it over...
toonsgirl 6 months ago
Evolutionism scares people, because it says at some point you were just an animal, and the more people like you try to bring some to reason (let’s face it Ray Comfort is unchangeable), the more they will reach for the weak minded, literally brainwashing, gaining control over the population, and so we lose opportunity to learn, human nature is to adapt and absorb information not to deprive itself of basic needs and habits under false promises of a fake God.
ciborgification 6 months ago
yes animals do have souls...why else would we be told to preserve them (basically) to think of food as medicine... i dont know when the soul is put in but when you die a very small amount of weight(less than a dime) is lost...maybe that is the soul leaving the body....those bongs in the back of your room explain your whole rant
SoFreshJess18 1 year ago
@SoFreshJess18
>i dont know when the soul is put in but when you die a very small amount of weight(less than a dime) is lost.
And hello bullshit.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago 3
@SolRosenberg84 if you really want the answer go ask a priest or pray....but if your just saying it to rant...then why waste your time
SoFreshJess18 1 year ago
When I believed in the soul, I believed animals had souls too. Anything with a brain had a soul, and therefore there was no reason for a soul to be injected at some point in evolution as we already had them. Now, however, I'm not so sure of the existence of souls.
ChuckMeIntoHell 1 year ago
Your videos are awesome man you should have way more subscribers. I just found your channel today you seem to look at the world an awful lt like me. keep up the good work!
meanmrmustard89 1 year ago
the idea of a soul is pure egotism, there is no logical reason to beleive in one at all
blazereef 1 year ago
destiny is something animals will never understand if u understand destiny u won't even jump to the sound of a gun theres a reason why we don't have eyes in the back of are head u should think about it
RaNdOM15530 1 year ago
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RaNdOM15530 1 year ago
Ur views are extremely biased, wat u believe in is no more legit then religious beliefs, since u didn't discover anything on ur own basically some1 u dont even know was able to infiltrate and mold ur mind into to wat they want by presenting u information that is only legit becuz they say so, das no different then believing in da words in a black book dat are made legit by the book itself, if u haven't discovered da truth on ur own u cn never be sure if da wool has been pulld over ur eyes
NoxDeadly 1 year ago
@NoxDeadly the thing is, these are NOT beleifs. they are based on direct evidence which can be observed and tested independantly. for example, if you walked into a store and saw a guy on the floor, shot to death, and someone with a gun going through the till, would it be fair to assume that an armed robbery is taking place? or would you have to have actually *been* there to even have an opinion? evidence is not biased.
robokill387 1 year ago
@robokill387 unless u've done the research urself u can't say wat is fact just becuz a book says so, text books change every year so to except this "evolution" bullshit as fact without checkin for urself is just ignorance, how do u kno the results of any of the experiments done hasn't been altered? ur letting strangers shape ur perception of reality, if ur gonna believe in evolution, believe in it cuz u proved it is real on ur own
NoxDeadly 1 year ago
nice bongs man :)
kumili727 1 year ago
I know I have a 'soul' because, although there is no actual distinction between my brain and the rest of the cosmos, the only thing I experience is information processed by that brain. INFORMATION, not matter or energy. If you think about it, you have to admit that you have a soul too - we just can't prove it to each other. Maybe something can 'gain soul' when it gains order, abstraction, information. Ostensibly this is magic talk, but the only thing I know for sure is that I AM a 'soul'.
tempo3rd 1 year ago
Eastern religions consider every living thing has a soul
screenflicker1 1 year ago
Reading some Aristotle would be slightly good on this issue...
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
Because Aristotle had a great grasp of evolution, right?
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 well if you read his physics and metaphysics you will see that he infact did...
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
Please explain.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 well pretty much all of his metaphysics, and physics refers to the science and complexity of beings. Being them from the simplest form of life to the most complex, which he would consider human life. As he is simply the first one to categorise species, the simplicity of it is expected, but as for the degree of physical complexity, it implies the same of metaphysical...
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
Thats not evolution though. Thats the ladder concept. Its incorrect. Everything is equally evolved.
We specialized down one route of survival tactics (communication and intellect), but other species have specialized just as much with other tactics.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 hence why i think you are mixing theology here with philosophy...If we have indeed developed differently from other species, this means that they have a metaphysical level different from ours, it can be argued the superiority of ours but indeed the difference is not open to question.
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
Yes, we seem superior by our own standards. We seem downright clever and in tune whilst everything else seems stupid.
However, Christians find Christianity superior over Hinduism when judging it by Christian standards, and Hindus find Hinduism superior to Christianity when judging it by Hindu standards.
"Standards" are funny things.
A good video to watch would be "The Uniqueness of Humans".
watch?v=hrCVu25wQ5s
We are apes who can do quantum physics, but apes nonetheless.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 Its not because something can do quantum physics it implies that we are somewhat equal to it does it? Its like comparing us to bats because they can communicate through sound. We find Christianity to be true because Christ is the only man to have claimed to be God and actually willed to die for that claim. And he's the only man to have resurrected, what did the hindu gods do?
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
You can't be equal to quantum physics. Thats like being "equal" to gravity - it makes no sense.
We humans are good at noticing patterns. This is all mathematics, and most of science, really is. By compiling our observed common patterns about reality together, we form more accurate abstractions of what reality is. You don't transcend reality by learning about it, you just get a slightly better idea of how it works. Learning about gravity does not make one float.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
>the only man to have claimed to be God
But in Hinduism, everyone is God. Walking up to someone and saying "I'm god" is a good thing. To them it means you figured something out. But to be frank, I don't care. I'm not Hindu. If you want to prove your beliefs are better then Hinduism than go talk to a Hindu.
You have also seemed to miss my point entirely. We humans tend to be blind to our biases. Hence my point about standards.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 i think you are shifting topics...Christianity is the only religion who has someone who claimed to be God in flesh and was resurrected from the dead...
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator How do you know there was a resurrection?
tempo3rd 1 year ago
@tempo3rd Well the overwhelming evidence for the empty Tomb of Jesus and the over 500 seers who saw him after he had been crucified is a good example. There is not much of a historical disagreement on the resurrection
TheEcumenator 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator
We have gone way off track. My point is that humans are blind to their own biases, their own standards and ideals seem perfectly fine to them because they are human. The imagined divide between humans and their surroundings is just that - imaginary. If you watched the video I linked to, you'd see that humans are just another permutation; a refinement of certain traits and survival strategies. We are still part of nature, more so than our petty egos dare admit.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@TheEcumenator wat u believe in is no more legit then religious beliefs, since u didn't discover anything on ur own basically some1 u dont even know was able to infiltrate and mold ur mind into to wat they want by presenting u information that is only legit becuz they say so, das no different then believing in da words in a black book dat are made legit by the book itself, if u haven't discovered da truth on ur own u cn never be sure if da wool has been pulld over ur eyes
NoxDeadly 1 year ago
Mmmm Soul Dust. Yummy
Predator9710 1 year ago
forget the fact that u fit the type of a fag serial killer/ child boy rape profile - and get into policewoman uniform
butterball1234abcd 1 year ago
I see where you are coming from, but i think its crazyhow people would rather believe that we came from SLIME then from a higher power like GOD. Plus is see u smoke the weed..stop talking about what GOD did and didnt do, just read the BIBLE it explains any question you have with your life. Just do it. :D
YouWantCHEEZE 1 year ago
@YouWantCHEEZE
You are "slime" right now - highly organized slime, but slime nonetheless.
Our civilization has bitten into the fruit of knowledge, and has been forever expelled from the eden of intuitive comfort - yet there still persist a few poor souls who spent their day banging on the gates of eden, and sadder yet, those who have no accepted we even left in the first place. As they spend their days lost in confusion, they miss the beauty of the cosmos around them.
Wake up.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
So you are related to a pile of doggy-doo in my yard? I can see that. (you ramble way too much) You are so exhausting with your BBbbbbbbbb, dDddddd, when youre trying to make a point.
AAnneC 1 year ago
@AAnneC
Yo craker ass bitch, you be made of the same shit as the dog shit in your back yard skank ass bitch ho, just in a more functional configuration mother fucker. Carbon, water, nitrogen, phosphorus, iron, and some other shit makes up dog shit, and guess what jizzstain it makes up your dumb ass to. Textbook bitch start fuckin readin it.
Ok, enough of that, but in all seriousness attacking the presentation of an idea is pretty low - how about you attack the ideas next time?
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 That was the point! I couldnt get past your rambling to even listen to what you were saying! I wasnt trying to be completely offensive- just maybe a little. Your video is playing in the background while I type this. Its at 3:44 and I cant take it any more. Sucks because you have a cute face which makes me want to listen...but i JUST CANT.
AAnneC 1 year ago
Nice bongs...
HaligonianType1 1 year ago
Haha.... Are you a Jerky Boys fan?
HaligonianType1 1 year ago
The worker in the fields long ago would ask his boss "hey why am I not getting anywhere?" & his boss would tell'em "hey, when ya kick the bucket you'll get it all!" Nothing more...
GalinorGustave 1 year ago
We have no difference....
cassiehdn 1 year ago
First and foremost, I think it depends on what you define as 'soul'. Some say that the soul is the sum of your mind, will and emotions; in this case, I have no reason to doubt its existence, though I wonder if maybe animals would have it too? But I don't think that humans are anymore special with their magic-souls, which you talked about, than animals. We're different in that our brain is more developed, yes; but that's no foundation for our supposed superiority. We ARE animals - we're mammals.
SonnyGoten89 1 year ago
I recall Noelplum doing a video on this subject.
ldiotProof 1 year ago
oh btw, if my view is correct Ardipithecus Ramedus indicates we were never "chimp-like' but rather that chimps were more "human-like" Our common ancestor was more like us than them and their specialized characters came after they split from us whereas we physically changed little in comparison.
GallusSapien 1 year ago
@GallusSapien
True - our recent ancestors were more human than chimp, and even when they were more ape-like, it did not mean they were more chimp like. The chimp line I use is in jest, the only reason I do it is to remind people that they are apes.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 I find it extra humbling to realize that our form is the "more primitive" form than the chimp form.
GallusSapien 1 year ago
Have you seen the video where the chimp conciously picked a bamboo stick stripped it of its leaves and hunted prey with it? Chimps have forsight too its pretty amazing.
GallusSapien 1 year ago
@GallusSapien
Birds of the Crow family are also quite intelligent, they often succeed in experiments quite similar to those made with apes. Sometimes even without "trial and error", but just by observing the setup of the experiment and then acting out of pure deducing.
I've personally witnessed the cleverness of Carrion Crows and Jays, and the audacity of Alpine Choughs when we go hiking or Deep-sky observing in the Alps. Sometimes I see and hear Ravens there, I like these moments.
eltamin1966 1 year ago
Course you have a lot of good points. Really, really good ones. Matter of fact, what you say's totally logical in pretty much every respect.
I guess that's why they call it 'faith', huh? Those who believe in it don't really need proof. Which is, admittedly, not the most efficient way to go about life..
Shintaka9009 1 year ago
"soul insertion" ... thats doesnt sound right; but hey, im not one to judge, whatever gets you off, as long as its between a consenting adult and a deity that knows what its doing
eyhexs 1 year ago
This is all pure wickedness. If the soul has to be supposed to give us morality, which listening to most atheists I am inclined to think it does, then there is a good transcendental (ish) reason to posit it. The immortal soul is necessary to givve us morality and we caannot think or operate without morality therefore the soul must bee posited.
StAugustinvThePagans 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans
A-soul
B-Morality
C-Awareness
>A is necessary to give us B. We cannot have trait C without B. We have trait C. Therefore A must be posited.
Structure is valid. However the premises are false.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans
Human morality has a strong empirical basis. Aspects of human morality are found throughout the animal kingdom. A combination of culture, biology, and brain structure fits the evidence better than a non-physical aspect of consciousness found only in humans. False premise.
Moral decision making is not a trait on which awareness is dependant. Sociopaths feel no empathy, and as such do no real moral decision making - however, they are quite sentient. False premise.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 I don't think the premise is false when you appreciate I made a transcendental argument. You might say biology provides an explanation as to why we also organize our sense perceptions according to time and space or know, as synthetic a prior knowledge, that all events (that are possible to experience) have causes. That would not mean cause or time could be said to be illusions or better explained by bioligy. The same goes for morality. The things in themselves do not matter.
StAugustinvThePagans 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans
>that all events (that are possible to experience) have causes.
Nice little clause added there, trying to dodge quantum mechanics. However, naked eye sized objects have already been put into quantum states, putting them into experience territory, so your clause fails. Not to mention that virtual particles, the causeless bits of matter that pop in and out of existence, produce physical reactions we can estimate and measure (which is why we are confident of their existence.)
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans
Also, in regards to your bigoted little comment against non-believers - the statistics don't agree with you. Atheists, agnostics, and non-believers have the lowest representation rate in prisons when compared to the population at large. Countries with the lower religious rates have lower crime rates. Atheist marriages even last longer.
Of course, correlation does not spell causation - however, it goes to show your childish bigotry has no empirical basis.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 If someone admits he cannot talk meaningfully about morality and says all the traditional pre-suppositions that once grounded morality have to go, would you think he was moral or not? Truly, atheists are little better than the beasts.
StAugustinvThePagans 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans
>Truly, atheists are little better than the beasts.
According to you, atheists are little better than beasts, while Christians have true moral authority. However, Christians are not better behaved than atheists as a whole. We atheists are not equally represented in jail (while Christians are), our marriages are more successful, and countries with high numbers have less crime and other problems.
This is evidence against your ideas. Present evidence, or your ideas fail.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans Well you're a disgusting arrogant little hater aren't you? Tell your god to make the O face next time. His teeth chaff when he isn't paying attention.
GallusSapien 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans Didn't Ted Haggard believe in the soul? George Rekers? Jim Bakker? All those Catholic priests who have molested children? Yeah, believing in the soul sure does make one a moral person....
TaylorX04 1 year ago
@TaylorX04 If no plausible account of morality can be provided except when constructed on theistic pre-suppositions we will have to go with that, as morality is too important a part of human experience to shed. Although atheists can certainly be very moral they have no grounds to be so, their goodness can only, when they look at it objectively (which they are usually so fond of doing) be either merely whimsical or purely founded upon self-interest.
StAugustinvThePagans 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans So an imagined grounds for morality is better than one that is self-sustained? That sounds an awful lot like saying the moral laws of a dictator are preferable to those of free individuals, because they have an external grounding (for all but the dictator!). The line between objective and relativistic morality is not as clearly drawn as you theists would like us to believe though.
TaylorX04 1 year ago
@TaylorX04 No but my meta-ethical theory is not imagined. The ens realissimum can never be a dictator or a tyrant because tyranny is mis-rule or rule for the good of one rather than for the interests of all. So by definition you can't compare God to a tyrant.
StAugustinvThePagans 1 year ago
@StAugustinvThePagans By your own definition, God IS a tyrant, since he does rule for the interest of one instead of all. He desires to mold us back into his image, teaches self-denial while expecting us to worship him like mindless drones, and we were even created to glorify God! Or did you conveniently forget all these things? God is the archetypal tyrant.
TaylorX04 1 year ago
@TaylorX04 That may be your opinion but it is not my definition as you can see very well (I never said God only rules for one) and I don't know why you think you can fool me by claiming it was. Clearly the wicked are not to be expected to appreciate the rule of the just and shall be inclined to call it tyranny. Do you imagine I will find your argument remotely persuasive?
StAugustinvThePagans 1 year ago
nice video
Leadman1989 1 year ago
I personally regard the "soul" as being just a poetic descriptive term for the electrochemical activity in our brain that ceases to function when the brain dies. No real mystery, except to the daft. Nice vid.
BobChaos23 1 year ago
I have been learning about evolution for like a year now and understand it fairly well, but I still really don't think evolution is possible in the way it is proposed to have brought about every living thing in all its mass variety and complexity. I know there are arguments against this and I have heard most, but I still can't persuade myself to accept that this massive system of life could have arose out of non-life and become what it is today. Sorry, and I'm not a stupid creationist either.
DisforDubby 1 year ago
@DisforDubby Evolution has nothing to do with life coming from non life.
theWestonian 1 year ago
@theWestonian um, hell yes it does. The ability and probability of a self replicating system arriving out of non-replicating molecules is the foundation of evolution, and seems impossible. Plus, in order for a system of evolution to arise out of a replicating system, it would have to pass several large milestones on its way. Evolution does seem somewhat obvious today, but how did the system even get started? If you consider the path of change required, its totally insane.
DisforDubby 1 year ago
@DisforDubby Youre confusing it with Abiogenesis.
Evolution only covers from after the self replicating system has been created. It explains diversity.
theWestonian 1 year ago
@theWestonian I know. I know the difference between evolution and Abiogenesis. However, you can't have a system of evolution without Abiogenesis unless you believe that something like God set in motion the first replicating organisms. That is my point, that it seems so impossible that life could, by itself, arise from self-replicating molecules and then proceed to evolve into everything we have today.
DisforDubby 1 year ago
@DisforDubby
Why don't you think it is possible for the vast variety of life on earth to have been crafted by mutation and selection?
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@DisforDubby
Also, the only difference between "life" and "non-life" is structure. Life doesn't have magical intrinsic qualities, its just matter in a highly reactive, functional form.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 actually the difference between life and non life is the system of replication.
DisforDubby 1 year ago
Using logic on theists = waste of time
I love animals, if they don't have souls, I guess that means no animals in heaven, so count me out. The Abrahamic gods are such vile evil monsters anyway. Why would anybody want them to be real?
Primalxbeast 1 year ago
LOL, freakin souls, how do they work? Like a deity, I would love to kinow what it even is, what it's made out of, what makes it, it.
jay666KJ 1 year ago
I'm so curious what would happen if another species rose on this planet and threatened to supplant homo-sapiens. I mean if we didn't blow them up from the get-go and actually gave them a chance... what would happen...
Hey, Sol. You're in college right? What are you studying?
DblOSmith 1 year ago
@DblOSmith
I just got out of college with a degree in shark wrestling and sky diving, or something equally as useful as such a degree.
I'm currently trying to get into university under some crappy discipline I can get in for, then transfer over to a biology program.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 Of course I ask mostly because I want to stalk you and watch and breathe on your windows, but a close second reason is I'm just curious about what interests you. What do you like studying? What would you like to do as a career for the long term. Your videos are always interesting I can't help but be curious.
DblOSmith 1 year ago
@DblOSmith
My academic interests? I'm interested in core biology, genetics, and botany. Haven't really decided between these yet, kinda depends on what I'm better at.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 I thought about getting into genetics myself, but I don't think it's interesting enough for me to see it through. Cool. Did you get a degree in English? :)
DblOSmith 1 year ago
@DblOSmith
Even worse - general arts and science. A few of my high school grades were pretty bad, so I needed something I was guaranteed entry into and could hopefully use to prove that I won't just skip all my classes. My high school grades are still haunting me like a freaking ghost though.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 Ah, wild. I can't imagine HS grades haunting you once you get into college? Do colleges really look at those once you've taken college classes? Sheesh.
Yeah, a friend of mine got an English degree in California (his diploma is signed by the Governator). He says it's more useful as a fire starter than finding any job.
DblOSmith 1 year ago
@DblOSmith
>He says it's more useful as a fire starter than finding any job.
Well, at least he'll be warm.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 so now grades have souls? :)
Aturayd 1 year ago
maybe the soul is an emergent property.
zach9899 1 year ago
the only way that people can hold these two ideas and not have a totally stupid logical hurdle to get over is if they think that every single life form has a soul, including bacteria, fungi etc
I don't think too many people believe that.
ubergossen 1 year ago
@ubergossen Hah, wrote my comment and then you started talking about bacteria.
ubergossen 1 year ago
I have submitted a video response. Not STRICTLY relevant to this particular video, but more to your ethos as a whole. It is up to you whether or not you accept my response.
atticana 1 year ago
@atticana
We've exchanged posts and I know your channel, and you might voice real concerns.
But in several discussions I've seen that if one side is lacking real arguments and risking to "lose the debate", it brings forward psychological points that somehow put the other side in a problematic light. And if the counterpart may be liable to drug addiction, alcohol and mental problems oneself suddenly gains
a kind of superiority in another way - compensating for "losing the debate".
eltamin1966 1 year ago
Are you high?
...anyway, I think of a soul as the deepest part of a person's consciousness, even what you could call instincts; it is what you were born with, as opposed to everything your environment has made out of you (which is pretty much everything in the physical realm).
McScreenName 1 year ago
We're stoned aren't we?
Diasanti 1 year ago 4
I always enjoy you videos
JohnKimberland 1 year ago
Cool video. :)
commanderkruge 1 year ago
Cool vid. :)
commanderkruge 1 year ago
I think he has been smoking something in those bongs back there.
Amusingly, everything he said still makes perfect sense.
boonw 1 year ago
even at 1 am you make more sense than i do on my best days. :)
FactVsReligion 1 year ago
You just made me a lill bit smarter.
jor550 1 year ago
I agree, I'm certain the only way any theist can properly account for the existence of trilobites is to admit their god of choice likely has substance abuse issues.
JBarracudaL 1 year ago
I just got to thinking about the common ancestory thing. Although I fully accept this idea, why MUST it be true. I mean, isn't it possible that abiogenesis occured more than once and at various locations on earth. I can imagine my ancestral line going back to one pile of primordial ooze, plants leading to another pile of ooze, and so on and so forth. Why is it necessary to think that ALL life is related? ...even though it's probably true; how do we know abiogenesis only occured once?
AmGoDDoGmA 1 year ago
@AmGoDDoGmA cont'd. If abiogenesis was not an isolated event, these different life-forms would, by implication, be unrelated biologically. All species would still be related to each other via their origins in the earth and stars, but our ancestory, in the strictest sense of the word, would not be "common." What are your thoughts, and how do we know for sure what the primordial conditions were? PEACE; love the channel!
AmGoDDoGmA 1 year ago
No, no, you are correct. The concept of a soul is illogical. But, nonetheless I firmly believe in a soul, or rather believe in a soul to a large extent. I have heard, seen, and experienced too much which has convinced me of that reality. And yes, I think animals have souls. I don't know about goo lol
creationofself 1 year ago
@creationofself
Interesting. If animals and humans both have souls, but goo does not, then at what point of multicellular development did our ancestors gain a soul?
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 lol I don't know. My guess would be with the Pineal gland.
creationofself 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 Not sure. If I had to guess it would be with the developement of the Pineal gland
creationofself 1 year ago
STOP SMOKING CRACK.
ZzRuSsElLzZ 1 year ago
Why are some Humans so arrogant, the Earth is the center of the Universe (disproved) the Earth is the center of the solar system (disproved) the Earth is flat (disproved) The only thing keeping us at the top of the food chain is technology and intelligence.
We are all just pieces of meat .
8824snipe 1 year ago
I was just having this conversation with a friend last night. You, however, articulated this point a bit better than I did. I love your vids, SolRosenberg84 :) Have a wonderful day!
brittanymlove 1 year ago
We haven't yet explained the mystery of consciousness but I'm sure neurology will unlock it at some point. I would love to read biology textbooks that will be published several hundred years from now.
If there is such a thing as a "soul", say some kind of energy or whatever, I'm sure we'll discover the natural properties by which it works. If not, the term may still be useful as a metaphor for our conscious selves.
DeistPaladin 1 year ago
I`m a christian who does research and USES HIS FUCKING BRAIN, and i know that halve the bible is probably product of man changing it for benefit, or whatever the else the fuck they wanted, and the bible in itself is flawed because in the translating of bible old to bible new both from Judaism and from dead sea scrolls, is flawed, i still believe in god mind you, but i think using common sense and my own morals Iv`e formed over my life is how i should live, not bye blind worship, which is a no no
sirkcinkid 1 year ago
@sirkcinkid also, to your question you asked, the soul, or idea of soul, was created, fathomed up, bye man itself.
sirkcinkid 1 year ago
@sirkcinkid Then you're not really a Christian... you sound like a Deist to me.
TheAlmightyFSM 1 year ago
Augustine of Hippo couldn't handle the idea that the "Noble Reason" could possibly rise from the impure and corruptible body. There must exist another component to human beings beside the earth and breath of Gen 2:7. And so the Soul was reasoned into existence.
EvenGodsSuffer 1 year ago
I'm still waiting religious persons to answer question that I have made...
If some person has split personalities... other one beleaves in god while other one is atheist. Does he go to hell or heaven? Or does he have 2 souls in one body?
We can make more personalities to other people, by some questionable methods... in otherwords are we able to create new souls?
Why holy books doesn't talk about this problem?
Tespri 1 year ago
Because they never anticipated a case with split personalities. God isn't all-knowing, apparently.
iPhap 1 year ago
You're pretty fucking smart.
SingYAYfourEd 1 year ago
I have long thought that if we alone had a controlling immaterial soul then nature programmes would be forced to point out how chimps have the most complex brains in nature - our brains being about as large and complex as a rabbits having had all the functions removed that the soul performs.
noelplum99 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84
3:23
"we have a common ancestor with everything on this planet"
Except the brand-new synthetic life that we've developed!
Suck it creationists!
blackplatypus 1 year ago 3
I've been thinking of the EXACT same thing, Mike. So dogs don't go to heaven? Cats don't have a soul? yet we do? What is this shit?! Anyway, another terrific video! Keep it up.
dude101bb 1 year ago
I've been thinking the exact same thing recently - but of course the fundie christian would simply say the first souls were inserted into adam and eve as they were (yawn) the first people on earth. However you provide a much tougher question for the moderate to answer. Good video.
kalsolarUK 1 year ago
As long as you aren't saying that soul music is a figment of my imagination....
AncientAtheist 1 year ago
You always have a brilliant take on things! I have always wondered at which point we are supposed to have acquired a soul...
echoesoftruth 1 year ago
I've heard some British Christian professor argue that if a species reaches a sufficiently high level of cognition, their brains will act as an antenna that receives part of the "Great Soul". It seems a rather Hegelian idea whereby, upon death, the connections ends and the Soul has assimilated your experiences in itself or "you" have in some sense become part of it. New-age Christianity, I guess.
wimsweden 1 year ago
I don't know, a lot of ex-girl friends have said, I'm soulless. :)
zendragon333 1 year ago
I totally agree
But does ANYONE NOTICE THE BOUNGS ON HIS SELFS
superdupering 1 year ago
@superdupering those arent bongs, those are soul containers
eyhexs 1 year ago
2:00,Chimpanzees also have the rudimentary faculty of making tools to gather termites to eat or to crack nuts to eat.
3:05, The bacteria are not only on our skin, they are part of our bodies, their number exceeds the number of out cells.
Good humour!
A good question - when did the 'soul' appear? Or did our ancestors invent the concept of a soul, when they saw that when somebody dies, he stops breathing. The etymology of the word 'soul' comes from 'breath' in ancient languages.
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
@dewinthemorning I'll tell you what I heard, though I doubt seriously it's true...and...well, sorry about this.... When something dies it's parts break down and decompose into a gaseous state. At some point it gets....released. The theory is that someone heard (or smelled) this phenomenon and assumed, since it was dead that a soul was freed......this is just a theory, but I've heard it twice so far....sorry, but I warned you, lol
skywize 1 year ago
@skywize So that's what the soul is? This smelly, putrid gaseous thing, released after someone dies? And before he dies, this same thing is in his body. Doesn't bear thinking!
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
@dewinthemorning Not in English.
MrKrov 1 year ago
@MrKrov So?
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
@dewinthemorning You specifically said "soul", not equivalent words. An error is an error.
MrKrov 1 year ago
@MrKrov (from wikipedia) The notions of a person's 'spirit' and 'soul' often overlap, as both contrast the body... In Latin 'spiritus' is 'breath'.
That was my way of thinking. In Greek 'soul' is derived from a verb, meaning 'cool, blow'. In Bulgarian, the word for 'soul' has an unmistakable connection with 'breath'. In other Indo-European languages as well.
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
I once talked with a creationist who said that one species besides humans might have something of a soul and these animals were....... beavers :) Seriously. He said it was based on something in the Bible's Apocalypse, but couldn't point to the exact passage. Good times.
PlonacyKrzew 1 year ago
@PlonacyKrzew Good times? I bet! Send some of that shit my way!
skywize 1 year ago
Humans are actually 90% bacteria due to the mass of symbiotic organisms around and through your bodies ^_^
PinkProgram 1 year ago
I am starting to wonder if our "family tree" is real. We must have come from aliens or something because no other species on the planet is mentally screwed enough to believe in gods. I'm not saying they never will, but we'd be the idiots telling them, lol. Can't you see it? a scene from Planet Of The Apes II where someone is teaching their chimp about the bible, and the chimp saying something like "what the hell have you been smoking?".
skywize 1 year ago
I strongly suggest a video called 'My Spirituality As An Atheist'. Its by a channel AHughman08. Seriously if you dont watch it, its your loss.
ApeShallNevaKillApe 1 year ago
@ApeShallNevaKillApe
I've long had it favourited.
That video is something we need more of.
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago
@ApeShallNevaKillApe
I also did a video on this subject that i am rather proud of (primarily for fitting so many arguments into 11 mins!) watch?v=NrbFPSznUDA
noelplum99 1 year ago
I don't comprehend this video. What "soul" are you speaking about that interacts (or from your video) is "inside" a human? I have never heard such nonsense.
the Soul is an eternal immaterial object which has no specific association with the human body.
Perhaps you have combined the pop-Christian view of "spirit" and "mind" together to produce this form of "soul" ?
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord
>the Soul is an eternal immaterial object which has no specific association with the human body.
So, you don't believe in the "ghost in the machine?" Than what is the soul to you, a celestial data backup?
SolRosenberg84 1 year ago 2
@SolRosenberg84
I'm confused as to why you would bring up ghosts in a discussion of the NATURAL. But anyways, as I stated, the soul is an eternal immaterial object unrelated to the human existence. It has existed eternally before time itself came into being (however the soul was created in the mind of God at the same time as the angels).
"celestial data backup" = now that is funny. I like how your mind works.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@SolRosenberg84 HAHAHAHA.... celestial data backup.... it's a recovery disk dude, didn't you know? rofl...
TheAlmightyFSM 1 year ago
@smartwarlord Actually it does go a bit further than pop-christianity, though you are correct in the explanation. I have actually heard that it is in a specific part of the body....no, not that part.... actually there are more than one theory,.... or a theory and a movie. (sorry, that's how well my mind retains information, lol).I have heard it explained,...at length... that when you die, your body loses a few grams of weight, and that is the soul leaving.....whatever, lol
skywize 1 year ago
@skywize
That is just delusional.
By the way whoever said that to you got confused. What they meant was spirit, apparently. Not the soul.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord ok, wait, what is the difference? Not being a jerk, I thought they were the same thing.
skywize 1 year ago
@smartwarlord since when soul and spirit are different things? In implication?
MugenTJ 1 year ago
@MugenTJ
Soul and Spirit have always been completely separate. Have you read the Bible before? Or are you receiving your information second-hand from an illiterate Christian?
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord Nah, i stay away from them christians. This is due to my poor sense of English and its implications. To me they are the same thing. But if you say spirit means this and soul means that...then I will consider.
MugenTJ 1 year ago
@MugenTJ
Spirit - Eternal form of being (there is two forms of being, the flesh (your body) and the spirit. The spirit inhabits your earthly body, and when God knit you together in your mother's womb, he at that time gave you a spirit. When you die your spirit leaves the body.
Soul - (f0r me at least) is a eternal immaterial object outside the realm of time/matter/space, and thus similar to angels was created before the universe. Every living human being (homo-sapien--sapien) has one.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord
I don't know what YOU believe, but most people that believe that the soul is the one who decides by the paradoxical notion of free will. Also they believe that the soul obtains information from the material world. For example I read your post and decide to facepalm: To do that my soul has to receive the information of your post from the material world by my material eyes and then send the order to my material hand to facepalm. That's the common view among soul believers.
kaminarigaston 1 year ago
@kaminarigaston
Well I'm Heterodox in most peoples' eyes. But anyways, indeed free will is an absolute delusion. Completely impossible if a god exists.
Regarding the "soul" you spoke of in your comment. All i have to say is LOL. People believe that?
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord How can a Object be immaterial?
that in of itself is a contradiction. If something is immaterial, it can`t be an object as it simply has nothing to define it as such. In fact its got nothing to define it at all. No connection to human body? So then this thing is disassociated with all of your brains Activity and experiences entirely? I`v never heard that concept of a soul before. LoL Gotta love, Substance dualism. Amusing and confusing people since the stone age.
AcanLord 1 year ago
@AcanLord
object - anything that may be apprehended intellectually.
I suppose you've never read the Bible before, or if you have, a crappy English translation.
This has nothing to do with dualism.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord The Invisible pink unicorn can be Comprehended intellectually.
does this mean that this is a real object? The same applies for your strange hazy mystical non-existing soul thing that apparently has no connection with reality at all.
AcanLord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord What I don't understand is why the soul needs a body in the first place. I guess a soul doesn't really need a body? Then why does it use one?
And at which point in evolution have souls started to inhabit material bodies? Hm...
PokeRapper5000 1 year ago
@PokeRapper5000
Have you read my comment yet Poke? Re-read it. The Soul has NOTHING to do with the body.
Souls have never and will never "inhabit" material bodies.
Moreover, evolution is not even on the table.
smartwarlord 1 year ago
@smartwarlord, once, I asked someone, "Who created God?"
They replied, "Nothing created God because God is eternal."
If that's true, then how could YOU have been CREATED with and ETERNAL soul? Either you always existed, or you didn't. Which is it?
DarkMatter2525 1 year ago
@DarkMatter2525 The answer I've gotten to this very question is that the soul is a part of God, which explains the "made in the image of god" argument.
I find it better to ask the following question: If humans have souls and animals do not - then WHEN did humans get souls? Did got just HAPPEN to have some extra when the Homo Sapiens Sapiens started to develop? And also - so God creates souls all the time, since humans are increasing in numbers? If so: Why send them to hell? :P
steffenml 1 year ago
@DarkMatter2525
Eternal from the standpoint of existence. Before I was created (along with everyone else) I did not "exist" (whatever that would entail).
But the question "Who Created God" is an invalid statement. If you permit the discussion of God, you must also carry along the necessary "baggage" for the discussion. And that is, to accept that He (or she i suppose) is uncreated, and therefore any question regarding His existence is invalid and demonstrates your immaturity.
smartwarlord 1 year ago